Ray Allen Wants Extension
Allen says he wants to talk extension - Celtics Blog - Boston.com
Ray Allen said Friday night that he would like to negotiate a contract extension with the Celtics beyond this season. Allen, who turned 34 in July, is entering the final year of a five-year, $85 million deal he signed with the team formally known as the Seattle SuperSonics. Allen will earn $19.7 million this season.
"Of course, but it will be dealt with in its time," said Allen, when asked whether he would like to play more years in Boston. "My job doesn’t change. I gotta go out and do the same things. We get paid to play basketball. We’re all in a great situation so we can’t look past this year."
This isn't the first time this has been reported. I expect that Ray would like an extension. It only makes sense. He's in a great situation and he'd like to sign (perhaps) one more deal before his play starts to decline.
I expect Danny would be interested in talking extension as well, ...at the right price. I'm not sure Danny is all that interested in giving up the flexibility that Ray's expiring contract gives him. I don't see a lot of scenarios where Ray would be traded mid-season, but after this season the Celtics currently have several options with Ray. They can still resign him, they can sign-and-trade him, or they could just let him walk and take the savings on the cap.
If Ray gets an extension, it will obviously be for a very large paycut. Just how low Ray is willing to go will determine if he'll retire a Celtic or if he'll have to let the market dictate his next paycheck.
How much would you be willing to give Ray to stick around?
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Jason Kidd got $8.1 million from Dallas this year, at age 36
Allen turned 34 in July. I imagine he’d command about that much.
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3 Years $27 million is my prediction
I think Ray can play at this level for another 3 years solidly and not lose a step. He should get $9 million a year for 3 more years and maybe even a team option for more years.
He’s a franchise type player who has one of the best +/- differentials in the NBA.
Too early to say
and too late to talk about it in good detailed faith before the season starts. Focus on another ring. I love Ray Allen and he is a class act but if I am the owner I am not opening the checkbook just yet.
Is it Soup Yet?
More pressing is Rondo's contract...
his contract will determine what can be done with all other contract. I don’t think Rondo will get a max contract, but it will be close.
depending on if pierce takes a pay cut also maybe a little more if pierce and allen both made 10 mill a year instead of the twenty mill or so we got 10 million to pay rondo and about 12 million left over for another player
Years
I’m honestly concerned more about years than dollars. I’ll let Danny and Wyc determine dollars, but I’d love to see him on a two year deal. My plan if I was GM would be to have Ray, Paul, and KG all expire in the summer of 2012. If things are going strong and we have a few titles, we extend them to 2013. If not, we have the option of trading any or all of them or letting any or all of them expire.
sitiation
if this team and paul pierce do not come to some sort of reasonable agreement i will be outraged. i think that ray deserves an extension, but not more than pierce. when pierce struggles he isn’t 3-19 shooting, he is 4 of 11 with ten points, two assisits, and 6 boards. this team is and will be built around pierce and garnett. this team has and always will be built around basketball players. every aspect of the game is important, thats why boston and pierce have had a solid relationship for so many years. thats why garnett is here, thats why ray is here. thats why the flash of GG is gone, thats why blounts inconsistency is gone. thats why the delonte trade was tough to swallow, thats why the leon injury was tough.
Ray is a great player and deserves years and money. but the celtics are on pierces shoulders and have been for years.
Pierce doesn't
carry the celtics any longer. That stopped two years ago with the addition of Garnett and Allen. Rondo and Perk have also helped carry the load. The disbursement of carrying the weight becomes easier the deeper your team is. The Celtics are deep!
25 million / 3 years
Any more than that is just too much. I do believe Ray will have a good season. He is the consummate professional. I just think to give a 35 year old guy more than that is giving a guy a bad contract.
Danny will wait... and wait...
Ray Allen is a class act. The kind of player should retire as a Celtic. But Danny will wait. He knows the salary cap is going down.
The only thing that bothers me is if Ray starts getting nervous about this…
Prediction : Ray`s time in Boston will NOT have a "happy ending"
Ray will be 35 when his contract expires…his game relies heavily upon quickness…he has had his share of health problems in the past.
Danny still has vivid and painful memories of how the Big 3 {Larry, Chief, Kevin} looked from 1988-1993. Plus, lots of top free agents will be available next summer.
If Ray thinks Danny is going to extend him at anything that even resembles $9-10M per year….he does NOT know the real Danny Ainge!
With Ray It's Not About Quickness
I agree with those that say quickness isn’t the key to his success. He’s one of the slowest guys going to the basket that I’ve seen. He uses change of (speed) and body position to get those type of points. The rest of his game is about rhythm and movement (physical condition). For the rhythm he becomes dependent on others. He also depends on confidence. As it is said, good shooters have bad memories and Ray has one of the worst. He is also a great competitor. It doesn’t always seem that way because his quiet demeanor (not quite like KG), but he wants to win and badly. And obviously he needs to be on a veteran team that knows how to use his abilities to the max.
"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
"Criminally Negligent Officiating"--Tommy Heinsohn
That sounds like another player on this Celtics squad... Paul Pierce...
I agree exactly with what you said TrueGreen.
Exactly...
Ray’s entire game is based off conditioning, not quickness….his game is also much better suited to a team with a legit interior threat and at least 2 other primary scoring options – which is what makes Boston such a good fit.
Allen is no longer capable of carrying the load as an ISO player or even a pick-and-roll threat with double teams gameplanned primarily to stop him – we’ve seen that he can indeed be stopped when he is the primary focus and the defense doesn’t have to worry about the interior.
However, on this team Ray is extremely valuable and very much capable of putting up another 2-3 years of extremely efficient production by playing OFF OF the other starters…He is worth 9/year with this current team IMO and that is likely around where the team will go with him if they choose to re-sign.
My belief is that Danny will play a wait-and-see game with Ray and everyone else this season to gauge how good they really are or how healthy they really can be…but if all goes as planned, Ray would be a likely re-sign IMO because nobody is going to fill the shooter role like Ray and he’s still good for about 25 “Ray Allen” games a year on top of his steady production and threat value nightly.
by BillfromBoston on Sep 12, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
i agree danny isnt afraid to throw sum1 under the bus if its for the benefit of the team, and if it happens i wouldnt shoot down the idea rite away as of rite now the celtics have no future there in for another drout, getting rid of allen after this year for a young star in the making wuld greatly benefit the team
I say...
explore trade options and if there is nothing out there where you would get more valure in return or the same value but younger you then try to do a sign and trade for younger equal value or more value such as a max free-agent… If not sign Ray for ne where from 6-9 million.
I would be really glad if Ray signed an extension before the season starts
It’s unlikely but still…
I think 7 or 8 millions per year, for a three year contract would be good for both Ray and the C’s.
I love Ray but...
… like Title 18 said, his contract will expire at the age of 35. He will be fortunate it to get the same contract Rasheed got from Danny in IMO.
Danny will wait
Danny will wait until the end of the season to determine Ray’s worth. I can see a 2 or 3 year deal at about 8 mill per year if Ray plays well this year.
No reason to lock up the money now since that will hamstring Danny financially if something better comes along. I don’t see Ray being traded midseason but leaving him as an expiring deal keeps that door open. Having him expire next year doesn’t make us players in FA under the cap but gives Danny some working room to figure out if a good MLE player is available and then resign Ray based on the team salary structure at that point.
Trade > Sign... Years > $
I’d really like to see the Celtics look for a really good trade with Ray Allen, to make the most use of his expiring contract. I really do think there’s a possibility the Celtics could get a somewhat young all-star in such a trade, and that it’d be worth it for the long term health of the team. If they can’t, then I’m all for keeping Ray for a reasonable price.
Again, his body is declining quickly. If you don’t believe me then go look up “Ray Allen supersonic” clips and you’ll notice a dramatic difference. I love the guy, but I’m freightened to see how much of a defensive liability he’ll be in another year or two. Plus, he doesn’t beat people off the dribble, so defenders are able to crowd him. For this reason I am more concerned with the years and not the $. But, resigning him will definitely restrict the team’s financials, and I wouldn’t want the re-signing of Ray to cause Rondo to not get signed!
Ray will probably have to wait a while until the Rondo situation is handled. After that, I see them offering him 8 million a year for two years with a third year team option. Look at what
Sheed got, and he hadn’t done a thing for the Celtics.$5.9 million, add two to that, and Ray signs and finishes his career here. He is such a quality player and human being, he should have been in Green his whole career. I would be very disappointed if this turned out any differently.
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The boston smelltics are green with envy! Go CAVS
tits
someone please tell paul pierce to lose weight
i say 2 yrs with a team option 3rd
i just don’t see a big market for a 35 yr old shooting guard. and i don’t see many other situations as beneficial as ours for ray either. so i say 2 yrs 16mil 3rd yr option for 10mil. after 2 yrs we can still have the flexibility to re-evaluate and if an option like a kevin durant comes up we can perhaps take advantage.
by bucknersrevenge on Sep 12, 2009 7:34 PM EDT reply actions
No way
we have to use that money to get a younger, blue chip FA. Sorry Ray.
by thereallargejames on Sep 13, 2009 6:36 PM EDT reply actions
ra y rat wants a extension ..
with players like wade , lebron ,bosh up for grabs danny might just let ray walk….





































