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TA, MD both would do on any given night. But, come on, wouldn’t we all really enjoy watching Billy Boy’s game start to match the size of his attitude? Also, I like our chances 51-61% of dumping TA and JR for a point or 3. Finally, if we get Tyrun Lee, MD will play a lot more three.

House is backing Rondo, Quisy and Billy will backup Ray/PP. Marquis is the main ball handler for the backup unit, but i doubt Doc will ever have an all bench lineup.

Yes, you are right, which shoots a big hole in my theory about BW at the 3. I don’t see Doc just throwing out 5 subs. Still, I’m holding out for PT for BW

Did Ainge or Doc say that Marquis is the EXCLUSIVE backup to Rondo? I guess that means Eddie House is Pierce’s backup. Either way it doesn’t matter, they have enough depth.

Rondo is their only one. If he gets hurt or is in foul trouble or just need a breather off the court, they are screwed. House or Daniels cannot bring the ball up against defensive pressure consistently well enough not to be offensive liabilities. Pierce needs consistent rest as well at his age, to cut down to a consistent 30-32 minutes per game. Come on Danny, get us the real deal, a backup point! Also, Dan Dickau, Mike Taylor (who?), Lue, or Hudson don’t exactly quench my thirst.

A lot of factors will come into play, as others have commented. But I reject the question; I think Daniels is coming in primarily as Pierce’s backup. I believe, until further notice, he’ll split time with House as the backup depending on the matchups.
But who knows? I don’t think House is as bad as some think as the backup point, but again, it depends on who else is on the floor. If Daniels is on the floor, too, as part of the second unit, does it really matter?
We have options. It’d be great to have a concrete No. 2 point and/or a concrete No. 2 small forward, but I think the preseason, the season and whatever Ainge can find at the trade deadline will eventually sort things out. I’m not that worried — yet! LOL.

that’s my prediction. I don’t expect this kid to lay down and allow this chance to be taken from him. As far as playing time, whoever plays the best defense wins the spot. I believe that Marquis will struggle at first with team defense, but he will settle in by January. I think Walker could explode offensively.

that’s the way we’ve done things the past two years, why would it change now? two years ago, we brought cassell on board. last year it was marbury. it’ll be interesting to see which teams let go of what players this season, but i’m sure we’ll find a legit and serviceable point guard by around the all-star break.

until then, here’s what i envision.

Rondo/House
Ray/Daniels/T. Allen
Pierce/Daniels/Scal/Walker
KG/Sheed/Baby
Perk/Sheed/Williams

Daniels will bring the ball past half court without turning it over because Eddie’s incapable of doing it. We’ve seen Pierce do this with House in the game before, and Daniels handled the ball a lot last year in Indiana, so we know he can do it as well.

I thought we had settled this weeks ago. Daniels is Pierce’s backup. He’s simply going to have ballhandling duties.

still believe it’ll be Marbury…no matter,our backup point is not on the roster yet…Danny will shave this roster down if&when he needs to add somebody

I for one , do not have a very good grasp on our back up pg situation.
There are way too many variables. Here are a few.

Lester was hurt so i really dont know how he measures up at this level.
Starbury know our system now and could be valuable, but can his attitude be repaired
House does well against some pg, but when teams pick his game apart, he has trouble getting the rock up the court.
T Allen never could get a handle on the handles, he needs those little things that come out of spidermans fingers whenever he climbs
Dickau can score but its negated by opposing scores against him. He might be good to buy a rest for Rondo as we trade baskets , but he causes our bigs to pick up fouls, which is not good.

I guess i would like to read more about Lesters progress and how close he is to making the team. If he is fully healed and how he works in practice.

… had a hard time bringing the ball up the court three years ago before blowing out his Achilles.

I don’t know why you’re making anything of this, Jeff. Come playoff time Daniels and House will backup the 1-3 spots. What positions we label them is really meaningless.

During the season, Walker, Giddens, or Allen may get some PT backing up Pierce, but it’ll only be for 5-10 mpg tops.

regardless of exact position, and that is how he has composed the roster. He has mentioned numerous times Daniels’ versatility, which fits into this philosophy. There are only so many minutes to go around. If indeed there are a solid 4 off the bench, Wallace, Daniels, House, Baby, there are going to be barely enough minutes as it is. Not to mention Scal, TA and Williams. If they bring in a backup point, who is going to sit out of those 4 ?

Danny does not envision position for position backups like the fantasy GMs on this blog. He has 4 quality players off the bench, some who can play multiple positions. It will be a challenge for Doc to split up time with the front 9 as it is. A 3rd point, someone who could hold down the fort for 5-10 games if there is an injury I can see, but a regular backup to Rondo is not going to be acquired, as it would mean reducing time from the 4 guys they really like. Think talent, not position when evaluating the bench.

He can play the point. Think about it.

Its really weird to see folks saying things like House will backup Rondo but … will play off the ball.

That’s saying House is NOT the backup PG, but rather the backup SG. – which makes a lot more sense.

Basically, folks should stop trying to slot backups behind people and rather slot them by position. Who can play each position and in what preference Doc would send them out there in that role?

I.E. – here are roughly what I believe the team’s depth is by position (not meant to be comprehensive, so please feel free to post additions/corrections). Not certain about the depth order past 2 deep – that’s going to be completely situational.

C – Perkins, Sheed, Williams, KG, BBD, Scal
PF – KG, Sheed, BBD, Pierce, Scal, Walker? Williams?
SF- Pierce, Daniels, Sheed, BBD, Scal, Walker, TA,
SG-Ray, House, Pierce, Daniels, Hudson
PG-Rondo, Daniels, Pierce, House, Hudson, ?

The main point is that there are several guys that can play mulitple spots on the floor and that gives Doc a lot of versatility. Also, guys who’s name appear in fewer spots in the grid have less value – unless they are on the left (i.e. Perkins & Rondo). That’s why Danny & Doc like guys like Sheed, Daniels, BBD & Scal – they can play more than one position, which helps tremendously. Some guys can play other spots but you really value them so much at their primary (Ray Allen at SG) that you don’t really want him elsewhere (i.e. Ray probably could play PG in a pinch, but you don’t want him there. If he’s on the floor, you want him off the ball.).

That little grid also makes it clear why the bulk of the playing time is going to be spread across just 9 players: The starting 5 plus ’Sheed, Daniels, House & Baby.

Other than complete garbage time, I don’t believe you will ever see a lineup on the floor that doesn’t include at least one of the starting 5 or ‘Sheed (who’s like a 6th starter).

The Celtics need a back up point if they want to win the title this year.

Give Hudson a shot, If he can cut it great.
If not sign Marbury or another free agent.

As long as the C’s have a competent back up point guard they will be fine.