The Generation of C's Fans That Never Won Anything (Until 2008)
Editor's Note: Like the Celtics, Celticsblog has added some depth to our bench of authors this off-season. Greg is the newest addition to the writing team here, following earlier offseason additions of TenaciousT and Jimmy Toscano. We're excited to have him on board, and look forward to future contributions from Greg. - Green17
By Greg Payne
I am 19 years old and I am a diehard Celtics fan. What does my age have to do with being a Celtics fan? It means that I am a member of the Generation That Never Won Anything Until 2008 Happened. When I was born in 1989, the 22-year championship drought was just getting started, and based on the franchise's record of accomplishment; no one would have assumed such a dry spell would have lasted as long as it did. Unfortunately, a losing mindset was slowly creeping into the very fibers of the franchise itself, driving away legions of dedicated followers who were fortunate enough to witness Russell and Cousy, Havlicek and Cowens, Bird and McHale. And with disillusionment spreading amongst some of the team's older fans, it was up to my generation to pick up the slack as the next generation of rabid Celtics fans.
I'm sure the reasons for fans of my generation taking up a distinct loyalty to the Celtics are unique. However, one thing was obvious: we are not front-runners. Not with M.L. Carr and Rick Pitino at the helm guiding the Celtics to consistently terrible records. But some way or another, we discovered this team and we never let go.
For me, it was a love of the game and Ron Mercer that roped me in. Yes, I have Ron Mercer to thank for becoming a Celtics fan. You see, my father witnessed the 60s, 70s and 80s squads and when he bought my brother a Ron Mercer jersey, I immediately inquired as to who the man was. The following night, my father switched on the television and there were the Celtics and Mercer.
I'm sure other stories of discovery range far and wide, but what I find even more compelling than stories of discovery is the reasons why we stayed with the Celtics. Why wasn't it just a one-and-done type of deal with this team? Why didn't we recognize that the team was at rock bottom? The reasons probably depend on the person, but no matter what the logic was, I'm proud of those of us that stayed as Celtics fans.
There were plenty of critics, cynics and pundits who attempted to put us down for our dedication to a floundering franchise. But for those of us who stayed, it was simply talk that went in one ear and out the other. Maybe it was a longing to see something through to completion. Maybe it was just a fierce and distinct sense of loyalty to the team. Maybe it was Paul Pierce offering a sincere sign of hope.
And as the new decade rolled along and we suffered through the Kedrick Brown, Vin Baker and Jiri Welsch-related headaches. Although the Celtics were seemingly lifeless once the 2006-2007 season concluded in a 24-58 record, we were still here.
It became a vicious cycle. Season after season would end in what seemed like either a lottery drawing or a first-round playoff exit. Yet somehow, no matter which moves were or were not made, the offseason cleansed us. And before we knew it, the regular season was upon us once again and we felt rejuvenated, confident and excited about our chances. Unfortunately, our feelings of hope were usually dashed by the All-Star break. Deep down, I honestly believe that we all felt some sort of strange pride in the fact that we had stuck by a losing team for so very long. That sense of pride ultimately brought us closer together. And we knew deep down that when this team actually resurfaced and won a championship - no matter how long it took -it was going to be that much sweeter.
To better understand the glory days we checked out ESPN Classic. Or we read the innumerable books that spoke of dynasties and hall of fame players and retired numbers and brighter days. Or we inquired with our parents or grandparents, about what winning really felt like. What was a championship like? What was it like watching Bill Russell grab that rebound or Dave Cowens rip that ball away or Larry Bird sink that game-winning shot? Was it really as exciting as they say it was?
But for all the research we could have done on the past, it couldn't change what we were facing in the present. We were starving for a taste of glory for ourselves, and no history book or spoken story could have quenched such a hunger. (taste = food to me, not drink, the analogy is good but keep it consistent throughout, I went food here, but you can flip it to drink if you prefer)
And then, quite suddenly it happened. In came Ray Allen, followed closely by Kevin Garnett. And suddenly, the Boston Celtics were championship favorites!?!? Was it actually happening? Was this what we had been waiting for? Surely, it was too good to be true. Losing was all my generation knew. The height of winning for us was getting blasted in the Eastern Conference Finals in 2002.
But before we knew it, Ubuntu had defined our season and James Posey was man hugging everyone. The playoffs were our destination and we strolled in as the number one seed. And after two life-threatening series against the Hawks and Cavaliers in which the stakes themselves threatened to tear us apart, we were advancing to the Eastern Conference Finals. Before we knew it, we were celebrating in Detroit as the Eastern Conference Champions.
In the Finals Pierce was hurt and then he wasn't and then we were losing terribly in Game 4 and somehow we survived and Pierce shouted, "One more C's!" And it wasn't a dream or another story or a reading out of a book. It was reality. It was our reality. This was our time. This was actually happening. And finally, with Game 6 seemingly over at halftime, we celebrated.
We celebrated with each other, the young men and women and children of the Generation That Never Won Anything Until 2008 Happened. We celebrated with those who witnessed Russell and Cowens and Bird and never gave up. We celebrated with those who re-discovered a franchise they had assumed was lost.
We had our legends in Pierce, Garnett and Allen. We had our classic moments in Ray sinking the Bobcats back in November at the buzzer (still the greatest finish I've ever seen,), Posey poking the ball away from Prince and the Game 6 comeback in the ECF and the Game 4 comeback in the finals that was too amazing to be believed. We had our stories for our kids and look forward to books written about a championship we actually witnessed.
Much like Paul Pierce took his seat alongside the greatest of the Celtic greats, we too, the Generation That Never Won Anything Until 2008 Happened, could finally look our elders in the eyes and say we had witnessed greatness, just like the kind they always told us about.
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Good article! Great job
Ron Mercer… I still remember that Halloween game victory against Jordan’s Bulls with Chauncey, Mercer, Walker… Dark years but we loved the Celtics as much as now. (or I would say even more :)
I give you credit...
Had I been born in 1989…the only way I would have been a Celtic fan would be if my Dad was a fanatical Celtic fan, and he yearned to see them return to the top.
I get the impression this might`ve been your situation. Otherwise, I never would have bothered with them.
I did get to see every Celtic title since 1965. By the Spring of 2007, it never occurred to me that I`d get to see them win another. So, 2008 was quite a “gift”.
Good to hear G17
I often wondered during those lean years what was in it for a young C’s fan – besides the fact that the C’s were the local team (and that notion doesn’t seem to hold as much water as it used to).
I graduated high school in 1986. I think that was the ultimate time line to grow up a C’s fan. I was old enough to have a firm understanding of the old dynasty – even got to see the championships in the 70’s with Hondo as the generations connector,. and in the 80’s got to experience the advent of the NBA becoming accessible as a league, and the C’s and Larry & co. being at the forefront of that emergence.
The heyday.
Glad that the happy days are hear again, and I give all the credit in the world to any kid who grew up with nothing but ghosts and Antoine to hold their hat on.
by redzdeadbabyredzdead on Sep 13, 2009 6:42 AM EDT reply actions
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should have said at the end.
Glad that the happy days are here again, and I give all the credit in the world to any kid who grew up with nothing but ghosts and Antoine to hold their hat on AND was still compelled to root for the Green.
by redzdeadbabyredzdead on Sep 13, 2009 6:44 AM EDT reply actions
Excellent article
I’m in my late 40’s and was in my prime (LOL) for the championships in the 80’s. Those were some pretty rough years (especially 93-97) watching those teams were pretty tough to take. Nate Driggers, Brett Szabo, Marty Conlon, Junior Burrough, Marlon Garnett among others who wore green during those rough times at least made it entertaining as I scratched my head asking “who, what, and where?” did these guys come from? But I stuck with them through all that and it was great to see us on top again. It must have been tougher for you to never had a championship “Fix” to hold you over through all those years. Let’s win another one this year! Go Celtics!
Great Job
Nice article. I always joke with people that the third word I ever learned after Mama and Papa, was Cousy. I grew up watching the legends of the hardwood always find a way. Even these past some-odd-years, it was almost as though I had enough winning for one lifetime. And when I’d hear ‘kids’ talk about how great some of the current Celtics were, I’d just shake my head in disgust.
Actually I still do that.
Nevertheless, Greg puts things into perspective. Great job.
Great article Greg!...
I’m 16 and too apart of The Generatioin of C’s Fans that Never Won Anything (Until 2008)… I feel that it was loyalty that kept me watch the C’s… Never did it ever come across my mind to jump on a teams band wagon or ne thing like that… I was born into the Celtics and I am forever greatful for it!
Great job with the article Greg and glad to have you aboard!
terrific mood piece
Greg, I’ve seen your name elsewhere, haven’t I?
Nicely done with emotional perspective.
The other part to this framing of that generation’s experience, is the love and support given to the hapless youngsters of that team that preceded ‘The Trade.’
And Jeff brings more youth to balance out the ‘older’ recent recruit. Good find.
T
New Boss same as the Old Boss..... or New Fans same as the Old Fans (that's The Who for you little kids)
Timely article – nice job.
I was going thru a trunk of old pictures last night and at the bottom of the trunk were old basketball cards I picked up somewhere along the line and I think they are older than you Greg. Unreal to look at pictures of me in Celtics T-Shirts (a couple of which I still have) that are also older than you.
Like Title 18 above I have seen I think every title game on TV (and many more since) circa 1967 and so Banner 17 was quite a refreshing event.
So pull up a seat Greg in the old corner bar of ours, sip some green juice, have G17 buy you a Celtic shirt and welcome. (I have a Leon Powe short for sale) because I am no longer able to wear it and LAMENT about LEON….
Is it Soup Yet?
Mentally G17 is only 9 but......
The article was written by Greg (who is 19) and not G17.
Is it Soup Yet?
Great article Green17!
I’m also 19 and a part of that generation. My dad was always a casual Celtics fan and I watched some of the games. I actually first started to like T-Wolves because I loved the KG, Starbury combo (ironic, isn’t it?). Once the Celtics drafted Paul Pierce I was hooked. I remember the first time that he set foot on the court. Pierce, coupled with Walker’s shimmy shake, made all the games exciting and I’ve been a die hard fan ever since.
WONDERFUL!!!
It is so great to read about someone who is from this generation being so attached to the
Celtics. They are a wonderful team to call YOUR TEAM.
Having lived through the 60’s, 70’s, 80’s, 90’s and now the 2000 era, I am so proud to read about young people becoming Celtic Fans and staying Celtic fans, forever.
Win, lose or draw, they are your team. You will learn to fight against anyone who says anything bad about them, you will tout their greatness and hopefully, you will be here for the long haul.
The Celtics saw me through some of the tough times of my life, but, I never missed a game..television mostly since tickets are so hard to come by. However there were times when I would get up at 5:00AM and go to Boston to stand in line for tickets to games I had to see in person. The 1976 Phoenix triple overtime game, John Havliceks’s retirement, Cedric Maxwell’s retirement, and even Bill Russell’s second retirement of his jersey when he finally agreed to let Red do it.
Road trips, western conference trips, Texas triangle, all of them. Waking my family up when someone hits a winning shot (mostly my favorite, Ray Allen lately). This team is a throwback to the old days kids, they have heart, desire, talent and mostly, they like respect other. That was obvious in the old days, and it is obvious now. So, enjoy the ride for as long as it lasts, the memories will last a life time, take my word for it. I have seen them all.
My memories make me a stronger Celtic fan daily! Hopefully yours will do the same.
Thanks guys
Thank you for the warm welcome everyone. I’m glad you all enjoyed my first article. I’m thrilled to be a part of the team.
no it didn’t, but probably should have for your reading comprehension fail.
When Perk was asked what he thought of Howard winning the gold medal this summer, he responded: "What’s his impression of me after I won a ring?"
I liked your story, I am in the same situation.
I was only like 1 when the Celtics won the last time, it relates to me.
by CelticPride18 on Sep 13, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Green17 didn't write this
he posted it for Greg Payne
just so we’re all clear
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V
I honestly thought Green17 was Greg Payne. I don’t know people’s real names on this site. My bad.
by CelticPride18 on Sep 13, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Hi
I’m 20, and also part of the Generation of C’s Fans That Never Won Anything.
Yeah, June 2008 was simply epic. I’ll never ever forget it, man. : ) And hopefully, this season will lead to another unforgettable one.
Awesome article man
I can relate to many of the points you made. I’ve come to accept the fact that I’ve peaked as a sports fan. No championship will mean more to me than that one did. Welcome to the team, looking forward to reading more of your articles.
Terrific Article
Ron Mercer is my alltime favorite player as well. I kid you not, I’m sitting here on my couch in my champion Mercer jersey as we speak.
I used to practice/do his around the back jump stop on a fast break all the time.
Great first contribution and I’m glad our generation finally got ours.
Very nice writing, Greg...
Welcome aboard.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
Late to the party here, but
good start, Greg!
Looking forward to your contributions on site.
-sw
Growing up in the Weinman household, you learn two rules very quickly if you aspire to reach double-digits in the years-of-age category: Hate thy Knick, hate thy Yankee.
Go Celtics, Go Dodgers. -sw

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