Lester Hudson and Mike Sweetney Get Contracts
by Roy_Hobbs on Sep 29, 2009 6:13 AM EDT
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Rookie Lester Hudson, who has worked out patiently all summer without a contract, walked onto the floor with a new one-year deal in hand.
"I was very anxious about it," he said. "But it’s a great feeling. I got to work out with all of the guys on this team."
Hudson appears to be the last guard - and the 15th man - on the roster.
Presumably, this is a non-guaranteed deal, because Bill Doyle says Mike Sweetney got a deal, too:
The Celtics begin training camp with 16 players, one over the maximum, after the signings of second-round pick Lester Hudson and free agent forward Michael Sweetney. Still recovering from offseason foot surgery, Tony Allen isn’t ready to go full tilt yet.
I can't imagine that Sweetney will make the team, but you never know. If he does, it means somebody else needs to go, the two most likely candidates by far being Hudson or Tony.
Update: Here's some quotes on Tony Allen from Scott Souza:
Ainge elaborated: "Well, we were hoping Tony would be ready to go by training camp. It’s just not coming along as quickly as we wanted. We’ll take it week by week. He probably won’t do much this first week and we’ll evaluate it next week."
On whether this puts Allen behind, especially given the offseason addition of versatile swingman Marquis Daniels: "It puts him behind everybody until he can play. You’ve always got to remember that the most important ability is availability. So as long as he’s in street clothes, he doesn’t have a job.
"We’re confident Tony will be healthy sometime in October. Where his spot is in the rotation will be determined by Tony’s play and by Doc."
Yeah, that didn’t sound positive.
Yeah, not so much.
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could they cut Tony?
It would be a financial loss to cut him and have to pay his salary plus the salary of another player they would presumably sign. Plus you would lose the right to trade his expiring contract. Still, if you can’t trade a guy and he’s not in your plans and you want to bring someone else in, you might not have many other options.
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V
by Jeff Clark on Sep 29, 2009 7:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Lester and Sweetney can contribute
Then it might be worth it. Tony’s salary is going to have to get paid either way. Lester and Sweetney will likely be playing for hundreds of thousands, rather than millions. If they can put in a solid 4 – 6 minutes a night every other week, it might be worth it for the team to eat Tony’s money and let these guys step on the court.
by funkstarrdeluxe on Sep 29, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
little value now
TA’s sole value now is strictly an expiring deal at the deadline. The hopes of moving him before then for someone useful are dying a slow and tortured death.
by slamtheking on Sep 29, 2009 8:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And...
it’s not much of a contract, either.
"The voice of the intellect is a soft one, but it does not rest until it has gained a hearing"
by Jeff_Fuller_49 on Sep 29, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sept. 28th, 2009
The Lester Hudson Era begins…
by lovethecees on Sep 29, 2009 9:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Here's a classic quote from Baby, he's lost weight just like Obama's stimulous package has 'saved or created jobs":
“Glen Davis said he has lost "20 to 25 pounds" but that does not necessarily mean he is that much lighter than his 289-pound playing weight (listed anyway) last year because he has added muscle in its place. He credits some of it to mixed martial arts training that he has embraced after watching his girlfriend do it in Houston.
He added that his goal is to become stronger, not necessarily lighter.
"I added on a lot of muscle. That was the point. My game is that I am a big guy. That’s what I do. So if I lose a lot of weight, I’m like the average player. So I kind of want to stay in my body frame, my weight, just be more conditioned, more toned. Just a comfortable weight where I can be me. Not some different person, different player.""
by clover on Sep 29, 2009 9:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I Smell a Trade
I’m sure that Sweetney and Hudson got partial guarantees. That’s standard when you bring players into camp. They only get the full contract amount if they are on the roster by “x” date.
Like others here, I have a feeling that Ainge is about to trade a bunch of people for one player, hopefully not Nocioni.
Stephen Jackson is available for roughly the same money. So is Camby, who has an expiring deal.
by Brickowski on Sep 29, 2009 9:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I live in L.A. Camby has been the centerpiece of a very aggressive ticket-sales campaign out here.
The team’s new mantra is: We apologize for being terrible last year; we will not be terrible this year; we will not squander a quad with Griffin, Davis and Camby this year; we will be competitive. And it’s not just PR – they mean it. The LA Times has hammered home the point that this is the best-rounded Clippers squad ever and that fans are no longer buying tickets strictly because they are available and cheap. Sales dropped off terribly last year, and Sterling himself — a guy who has never apologized for putting savings over winning — has made several public apologies. He is contrite.
What’s it mean to Celtics fans? There’s no way Camby is available for a bunch of throw-in players. It’s not happening. Nice fantasy for us, but that’s all it is.
by Cousin It on Sep 29, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When the Clips Go Into the Toilet
—which will be about 20 games into the season, Camby will become available. But I’m glad to hear that, this year, more people will be watching them go down the drain.
by Brickowski on Sep 29, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
First of all...
Clippers going down the toilet is an IF. Secondly, we have enough big men, and let’s just say Rasheed Wallace is the same age as Camby, even if Camby’s an expiring contract. Since we already have Wallace, what’s the point? So, I hope you were just “chatting” when talking about Camby, cause I’d much rather fill a need than a supposed want. To be honest, I’m surprised you’d want Camby, who’d only overstack our front line (I can only assume logically you’d want BBD gone in a trade?), over Nocioni, who even if he’s “soft” + not finesse (not athletic), like you more or less say, at least fills a need.
Besides, out of 3 prospects in general the Celtics MAY want for a trade (Jackson, Nocioni, Camby), Jackson seems to have the least salary. So, even though the salaries of the players we MIGHT trade (Scal + TA + Giddens/Walker) isn’t right off my head right now, I think at best we either don’t have to give up much money or we actually save money. Jackson seems like a very legit 3, and I’m all for him in a trade.
by Tai on Sep 29, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, a question...
I don’t know if any trade’s a good idea unless it involves who we get in the trade unless he stays for a while. How many years left does Jackson have on his contract?
by Tai on Sep 29, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
man if we have baby, shelden and sweetney, I think we win any brawl, or cookout in the league hands down
by biggs on Sep 29, 2009 9:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Excuse me but I never heard the specifics of Tony Allen's new injury?
And what the heck good is a contract for one year if it does not have to be honored. Either sign Hudson to a guarantee or don’t sign him at all …….. that sounds weasley to me. I hope Hudson gets his spot – let him ride the bus!!!!!!
Is it Soup Yet?
by Master Po on Sep 29, 2009 10:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is there any more room on the Lester Hudson bandwagon? I want on!!
by D Dub on Sep 29, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh
Considering Sweetney’s been out of the NBA for two years, and Lester Hudson’s about two years younger, I’d be shocked if Hudson lost a spot on the roster to him. Put it this way; I’m surprised he got an invite over Antoine Walker!
This may just be more indirect motivation to tell Hudson to keep the gas pedal down and not let up. I say indirect cause I don’t see Sweetney getting in over the big men already on the roster….but seriously, we already saw what happens when you try to sign a guy who hasn’t been in the league for about a year and hope he contributes. Barring injury, Hudson’s practically won his spot…IF he doesn’t let up.
by Tai on Sep 29, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's still so much Scal hatred on this blog. Why are people so eager to dump a guy
who actually contributes on the court and played (nicely) in the playoffs through some bad stuff last year? And why aren’t they equally or more eager to finally rid ourselves of the annual Tony Allen Is Injured Again headlines?
by Cousin It on Sep 29, 2009 11:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Because...
Scal is tradable, and can contribute something to a team so maybe we can get a late first rounder or a second round pick for him. No one, anywhere in professional basketball would trade anything for Tony Allen. We couldn’t even get a future second rounder from CSA Moskow for him. He is a head case, implicated in a shooting, inconsistent on the court and currently injured. McDonald’s wouldn’t trade you their burger flipper for this guy.
by funkstarrdeluxe on Sep 29, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am happy for Hudson...
I hope he does well.
by B-ball on Sep 29, 2009 12:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lets give Hudson a chance and see waht happens
I say let Hudson be the back up point guard during the preseason and the the first 1/3rd portion of the season.
If he can play the point effectively lets give him the back up point guard job.
If he can not we can then get a backup by trading (Allen or Scal) or signing a free agent.
by leothetiger on Sep 29, 2009 12:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hudson....
Is a baller. He is going to play this year. I have been thinking this since the minute he was drafted.
I have a feeling he has been playing really well, and has surprised a bunch of his teammates. His name has popped up from KG, Paul, and Rondo. He has been mentioned way more than Giddens or Walker.
I was checking out his game (via highlights), and he has a sweet sweet looking shot, and some fast aggressive moves.
by stevenfuzz on Sep 29, 2009 12:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Competition
That’s why I think we’ve got 16 guys under contract right now. There are several guys who could potentially get cut and Doc and Ainge probably want to really push these guys in order to make the right decision.
Tony, JR, Billy, Lester, Mike Sweetney, and even Sheldon Williams should all be feeling the heat right now. My guess is it’ll be Giddens that doesn’t make the 15 man when all is said and done.
by D Dub on Sep 29, 2009 1:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Really?
You really think Giddens will be cut over Sweetney? I thought Giddens did well in the summer league…
Seriously, if Sweetney does well enough to make the 15-man roster, then good for him. But I feel like he’s to Giddens + Walker that Bobby Jackson would’ve been to Lester Hudson: here’s who you have to beat to make the roster, show us you deserve to ride the bus! Heck, Hudson’s probably why Dickau went to the Suns training camp…
I think it’d be a huge shame if Giddens OR Walker were beat out by Sweetney. I mean, if they’re really good enough to be considered in a trade that would sent them to another team and bring a Stephen Jackson or Andres Nocioni here, then they better send Sweetney packing.
by Tai on Sep 29, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agree re Hudson
I think he’s going to surprise a lot of people
by Red2 on Sep 29, 2009 2:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
man
I wish someone out of the Boston papers would get a damn clue and find out if the contract is unguaranteed or what. 95% of CelticsBloggers have more of a clue on the cap and all other contract issues than all of those guys do…and that’s their job.
Spears was the man…now we’re left with crap. Hopefully that new guy for the Globe is worthwhile.
by jdpapa3 on Sep 29, 2009 3:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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