Who Starts Out Inactive?

1.) Tony Allen
2.) Tony Allen
3.) Tony Allen

But seriously, definitely Tony Allen. As far as the others go, either Walker or Giddens (maybe even both?) will be on that list. Perhaps Hudson too. My guess would be Shelden Williams and Scalabrine won’t be—the more relief for Garnett/’Sheed, the better.

But that backup PG situation might mandate Hudson being active, if he’s signed. (Unless Ainge is really serious about this Marquis Daniels as PG thing.) In which case I’d vote Scalabrine as the odd man out.

If we really want Scalabrine and Allen possibly traded, you gotta go with those 2. Scalabrine’s a no brainer to be on the active roster, as far as I’m concerned. He’s shown his worth, overpaid or what not be damned.

TA, if healthy, can be effective. He’s clearly went the way of Gerald Green in terms of his welcome here, but he’s still on the team, and if you really want him traded, he needs to at least play to increase his trading value.

That leaves Williams, Walker, Giddens, and Hudson (if he’s signed) for the final spot.

Assuming Scal’s on the active roster, we have five bigs in KG, Perkins, Wallace, BBD, and Scal. Scal and Williams could very be interchanged between active and inactive throughout the season, but I think based on who we have on our depth chart for bigs, Williams will be receiving much more DNPs in the box score.

Giddens….well, we have Ray Allen, House, and possibly Daniels here and there for the SG depth chart. I don’t think there’s room for Giddens unless he kills in training camp.

That leaves Walker and Hudson.

Walker has gotten NBA time, and seemed like just off last year as the most likely candidate to get that 12th and final spot just off that. He seems further along, but just needs the game to slow down for him. If he can prove himself in training camp, he probably gets the nod.

So:

Starters: Rondo, Ray Allen, PP, KG, Perkins

Bench: Wallace, Daniels, BBD, House,

Insurance: Scal, TA, Bill Walker

Inactive: Giddens, Hudson, Williams.

I really don’t see how you can accurately guess this before camp. I’d say right now it’s the 3 young guys (if it’s Hudson with that last spot as we’re assuming), just to be conservative. I think there’s a good chance either Walker or Giddens will bump Williams down, 6 big guys in 12 spots. The only way I don’t see this happening is if they are absolutely terrible.
There’s a chance both of them could move up, but for that to happen Tony Allen would have to look pretty bad. Though, that’s really not that unlikely.
The chances of Hudson backing up Rondo are pretty low in my opinion. That could of course change depending on how good he looks with the team.

I’d keep,
-Scal,
-Sheldon,
- Hudson,

But then again I really think Giddens and Walker deserve a go, so if Quisy does a good job backing up the point to begin the season, I’d like to see hudson sent to D-league with Billy or JR coming in.

Giddens and Walker would compete to backup Pierce. Best man wins. Meanwhile, Williams would get a look see as a 4 backup.

Eventually, the loser of the Giddens/Walker competition would be replaced by an activated Scalabrine.

Winner of the following battles get two of the spots:
- Scal vs. Shelden
- TA vs. Billy vs. Giddens

Personally I think we need to have Hudson active from jump street to see whether or not he can contribute any valuable minutes at backup PG, which is currently our shakiest position.

I would expect Shelden to win the big man battle but the wing battle I have no idea. I’m pulling for Bill Walker.

Tony is on the roster in order to showcase himself for a trade. If we left him inactive (like we should) he might not a have a few good games which might cause a stupid gm to overpay for him.
Scal: he’s a good role/hustle player.
Bill Walker: Bench help is needed more at the three than the four and five. BBD, Sheed, KG and Perk all good enough to play 30+ minutes a night. There won’t be enough time around to play Shelden.

1. The only obvious one is Hudson if he is even signed. He will have to show a lot to get a sniff of the court.

2. Giddens or Walker (or both)

3. Whoever is aching or Scal. Possibly TA, possibly Williams. Depends upon matchups.

TA should get minutes early on if he is healthy.

He was signed 4 years ago when we were a rebuilding team and nobody else wanted to sign here. We are not that team anymore, he’s awful, always out of shape, so please get over it. His career has been more of a Gag Joke than anything. As for the topic:

T. Allen
Walker
Williams

^^^Should be activated. Allen NEEDS to be active because:

1. We need him to appear more enticing as trade bait. Burying him on the bench will only make him an expiring. We need as many options as possible.

2. He’s in a contract year, he will want as much money as he can get. Hopefully upping his trade value.

Walker def seems to have more potential than Giddens, & Williams was signed for a reason. He rebounds better than Scalabrine, is in better shape than Scals, & as bad as his Offense might be, i guarantee its more efficient than Scals 3-pt only shooting.

Hudson should go to the D-League until the All-Star Break. This will give T. Allen time before the trade deadline to up his value. With Quisy being able to play backup PG, there is no rush for Hudson to see much time early on in the season. As for Scalabrine, every GM knows what they are getting with him. He should be inactive considering he’s an expiring contract, or filler at best in a trade. There is no potential in a man who consistantly shows up every year in worse shape.

   I’d rather see Williams active. With Scal you know what you are going to get and he’s not going to improve in any areas. And, worst case, is another concussion. Williams is a better rebounder, probably a better defender and almost anyone is a better offensive player then Scal. And Williams SHOULD have some upside.

He has less pressure on him this season, last year he was considered the new posey and become the 6th man on the team.

he could be hungry guys.

Contract year,

future uncertain,

still an orgy of athletisim and tenacity…

those things could boil over for TA this year and push him closer to where we all hoped he would be one day. Likely? No, but he always plays hard.

It won’t be Williams, I don’t think we signed him just to have him on the inactive roster. Scal is a good back up for the bigs. I think Walker has potential, he could be a good 3rd string sg or sf.

I still think that Danny will pick up another vet PG….Lester will be in the D league…and the TA haters will just have to wait until after camp…I still think TA will be active…I gota think Walker and JR will enjoy Portland for awhile…

A lot of you guys trashing Tony were ga ga about him during his streaks preceding injuries that he played really well. Tony can play – he just needs a basketball IQ implant.

I would like to see what Tony can do this year now that he a couple of years removed from that devasting knee injury.

That said, Doc needs to develop players not run his work horses into the ground. So the last spots on the active roster have to go to the players that have the most potential to make a future impact with the team.

These would include Walker, Giddens, Hudson and Williams. We are likely trading Scal and Tony Allen before the trade deadline and the NBA community already know what they can do. I would like to see some Tony early to see if he has his sizzle back. If not, see if this other group can contribute. Danny needs to know what he has with this group.

I posted the same topic in the forums several days ago.

My take on it:
Doc doesn’t play youth. Walker, Giddens and Hudson are in d-league to start the year.
1) Williams wasn’t signed to be a DNP-CD.
2) When substituting, Doc will keep either Ray or PP on the floor with House and Daniels. That’s 3 guys that can bring the ball up without having to sign another PG or using Rondo all game. If Doc wants both Ray and PP resting, in comes Rondo. House slides to SG and Daniels plays SF. TA is kept active as insurance.

If the C’s sign a vet PG instead of Hudson, Williams takes Hudson’s place on the inactive roster. Scal can “play” 3/4 so his versatility keeps him active over Williams in this particular scenario.
On this topic though, I’d rather see them keep Hudson if he shows something in camp. With Eddie’s contract up after this year, if Hudson can show he can be instant offense like Eddie, he could slide right into Eddie’s spot next year for less $.

we still need to see if Hudson is signed and what happens in training camp. there are always injuries that come into play and let’;s not forget that KG’s health is an unknown at the moment. Obviously the C’s have been trying to move TA and will continue to do so. Giddens or walker can easily fill his spot not to mention Marquis. Scal is a rotation player and so is WIlliams albeit both are at the end of the bench. I would love to see another shooter or a long defender a la tayshaun. I wouldn’t mind a pg but I think danny is comfortable signing hudson and seeing if he can be the deep reserve at pg. so, from where I sit I hope that they trade Tony Allen and Scal and parlay them into another decent bench player who can do something really well- either shoot, rebound, block shots or whatever. Someone with a discernable skill who can help the team. If I had to vote now I’d say Hudson, Walker and GIddens start the season on the inactive list. I really think though that Danny wants to get Giddens some pt which is another reason why tony has to go

Walker, Giddens and Hudson have to DOMINATE their counterparts to crack the active lineup. I am not saying it is not possible or that they won’t, just saying what they have to do to crack that lineup.

It’s really like boxing, when there is a draw, the champ keeps the belt.

The guys who play well in camp will be active. Those that don’t, won’t. These threads become popularity contests here, but he coaching staff has to be objective. Yes, trades are possible, but Ainge has been shopping around the league already, and if he hasn’t made a trade by now, I doubt if we will see one.

As for Hudson, he needs to go to Europe unless he can miraculously learn how to play the point.

Inactivate Scal, TA and rotatate between JR & Bill. Whoever works thehardest. I saw a lot of potential in Lester during the short time in summer league before his injury. Pure athleticism. Something this team was supposed to get from TA but it never materialized. In TA’s defense though, I think Doc got a little caught up in Win-loss records last year at the expense of developing the young talent and overworking the vets. I hope he corrects that this year. Bill & JR both should be farther ahead in terms of development. I pray he doesnt make the same mistake with Lester.

I don’t see Williams on the inactive list for a few reasons. He’s replacing Powe’s role.
Also, he’s the only other big on the team that bangs in the paint other than Perk. If you notice all our other bigs stretch the floor and get their points away from the basket. Obviously Garnett and Wallace have a post game, but BBD gets most of his points taking 16ft jumpers and does not rebound well for his size. My point is Scal is another big who doesn’t rebound well and hangs out at the 3 point line. We have Wallace to do that to stretch the D when necessary. Unfortunately, he’s a concussion away from being inactive anyway. Giddens has not shown much of anything in summer camp. I think the 3rd inactive will depend on who is going to back up Rondo. My guess is Hudson goes to the D League and Walker and TA compete for the last spot.

I really don’t understand the disdain for TA- he serves a role on the team better than others do. Needless to say I can think of more deserving people who should begin the year on the Inactive list

Is it a foregone conclusion that Williams cannot beat out Davis?

it would not shock me too much if Hudson makes the 12, rookie or not. Daniels is more likely to play vet back up to Pierce & Ray, which means Walker and Giddens are still too green. I think the back up point is more open to Hudson stepping up, then the 2&3 are for Walker and or Giddens. Doc has played rookies when they have shown they can play. Scal sits, Walker & Giddens back to D league.

…Tony Allen, you need to give him minutes. Other clubs have to see him being productive so they can look past his off court issues.