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Celtics lose third straight at home

For the third straight game, the Boston Celtics have lost at home after falling to the Dallas Mavericks, 99-90. The last time that happened, the Celtics lost to the Bucks 104-102 during the 2006-07 season- Gerald Green was your leading scorer that game. Sorry, I had to.

The Celtics didn't have Kevin Garnett then, and they didn't have him tonight either, but just as it wasn't an excuse for the last two home losses, it still isn't one now.

"We've been there before, we've been without Kevin, we've won games last year, we got through the regular season where we won seven, eight, nine games in a row without Kevin, so that's not an excuse," said Paul Pierce who had 24 points on the night. "These are teams that come into our building and we feel that we should win in our building we're just not doing a good job of protecting our home court, having enough pride, playing with enough toughness at home."

At this point, Pierce and Doc Rivers must feel like broken records. Every game they lose it seems like it is for the same reasons. They don't play 48 minutes, they don't have enough energy at home, they stop playing team defense, or my personal favorite- they aren't playing consistent basketball.

"I thought we came out relaxed, and we just thought Dallas would go away," Rivers said. "Second half I thought our defense was horrendous. I didn't think we got back at all on defense. They had numbers every single time. We had our guards crashing the glass trying to get offensive glass, bigs complaining to refs, they beat us down the floor and they scored. Then all of a sudden it became a walk the ball up the floor on one way and then the other way they were running it back down our throats."

Do the Celtics lack a killer instinct? Up nine points going into the third quarter, one would think this team would pounce on the Mavericks and prevent them from getting back into the game. Instead, Rivers states that they had the opposite attitude coming into the second half. How? If you're the Celtics, you need a big win at home like this. They are halfway through the season, and with no important home wins to show for it.

"I look up, we shoot 50 percent, most nights we win those games," Pierce said. "When we allow teams to shoot at that high percentage (57 percent) its going to be tough to win any ball game."

In fact, the Celtics came into tonight's game with a 16-3 record shooting 50% or higher. After tonight's loss, they are now 3-5 in games where the opponent shoots over 50%. On top of that, the loss tonight brings them to 11-7 at home. To put that into perspective, the Celtics only lost six games at home each of the last two seasons prior to this one.

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"So far a bad first half for us here at home, but we know that we can play better and do better in that second half when its more important to get those home wins to try to solidify home court and make that good run in the playoffs," Rasheed Wallace said.

Since the win in Orlando on Christmas, the Celtics are 4-7, with wins over Toronto, Miami, and New Jersey- certainly nothing to hang their hats on.

It was the third quarter when the Mavericks really started to take it to the Celtics. Dirk Nowitzki and Eric Dampier combined for 24 points, and Shawn Marion added eight points in the third quarter as the Mavericks turned a nine point deficit into a seven point lead going into the fourth quarter.

"I thought Damp (Eric Dampier) had a nice third starting off physical and I thought we lost our composure on that," said Rivers. "We stopped wanting to do the little things back on the other end we were more concerned with trying to get him back but I really thought it was our transition ‘D' to start."

Rasheed Wallace picked up his fourth foul with 5:18 left in the third quarter and the Celtics up by three points. Brian Scalabrine came in for Wallace with roughly four minutes to go in the third, and Dirk Nowitzki went on to score nine points in a row for the Mavericks in under two minutes, giving them a lead they would never give up.

"The fourth foul really hurt us," said Rivers. "I thought Rasheed defensively was doing a terrific job on Dirk, and not having Kevin tonight knowing Rasheed was the only other guy- that put is in a tough situation."

After exchanging baskets early in the fourth quarter, the Mavericks turned a four-point lead into an 18-point lead in about four minutes, essentially sealing the Celtics fate on their home court once again.

Asked whether or not the Celtics need to find their identity on defense again after these past losses, Ray Allen essentially said that it was getting on the same page out there.

"Anytime you lose a game obviously you blame it on the defense," Allen said. "The places we didn't get stops, I thought defensively we didn't make great decisions down the stretch; we weren't aware. And that's not so much of an identity [problem] as much as just playing with each other and communicating."

The Celtics will travel to Detroit to play the Pistons on Thursday night, and then come back to Boston to host the Portland Trailblazers, a game that Kevin Garnett is supposed to make his return on.

He can't come back soon enough.

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Apparently only Sheed could stop Dirk...

But what about Perk? Why was he not working Dirk?

by DRJ1 on Jan 19, 2010 1:10 AM EST reply actions  

I think it had to do with the fact that Dirk is very mobile.

You can’t expect Perk to chase Dirk all over the court, and if Perk was on Dirk that would have been the case. I thought it was interesting how Dampier pretty much had his way with Perk and anyone else in the 3rd quarter though.

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by Jimmy Toscano on Jan 19, 2010 1:28 AM EST up reply actions  

So?

And Perk is not allowed to chase Dirk on the periphery? Don’t we have to do what we have to do? I would have thought that stopping Dirk would be a priority. Scal and Baby weren’t gonna do it, obviously…. not theoretically, and not practically, as it turned out. Only Perk had a shot (besides Sheed). So let Perk chase him around, and let Baby or Scal fight with Dampier down low. Why not?

by DRJ1 on Jan 19, 2010 1:37 AM EST up reply actions  

That's not Perkins' game

You’re asking Perkins to go from playing center to playing power forward, and that isn’t him. It’s not his job to go and chase Dirk all over the court, and in my opinion he couldn’t do it anyways. Dampier is maybe an inch smaller than Dirk but 20 pounds heavier. How does Scal or Baby match up with him better?

When do you ever see Perkins playing that type of defense? Why try to change his game now and on one of the most lethal shooters in the league? If you’re talking about double teaming Dirk when he gets down low, that is one thing. But to put Perkins man to man on Dirk and have him on the perimeter at times on defense is not right.

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by Jimmy Toscano on Jan 19, 2010 1:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Ok, good point

…But what option was there? Scal and Baby were absolutely useless vs. Dirk… and predictably so. They’re just too short… Dirk simply shoots over them. Perk was the only other guy with the height to stop Dirk.

Meanwhile, Baby DOES have the weight and strength to push Dampier around. Maybe Scal too. That matchup, with either player, is certainly not hopeless… unlike their matchup with Dirk, which was absolutely and predictably hopeless.

So while it is true that Perk does not usually run around chasing shooters… in this case, with no KG and Sheed out with fouls… there was no other option. What say you?

by DRJ1 on Jan 19, 2010 1:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, as we probably saw. We didn't have any options/answers

once Wallace went to the bench. But how easily would it have been to throw a pick on Perkins, get an easy mismatch, and then a wide open lane for Dirk to drive down while he watches from the three-point line? I also think it was a situation where it all happened so fast there wasn’t time to really react in any other fashion. Scal was in the game for 2 minutes and Dirk scored 9 points in that time. It was like three possessions.

I guess Shelden Williams wasn’t an option either, because he never came in. If you’re going to watch Scal give up point after point to Dirk, why not at least try Williams in there. He’s not much bigger but he’s fresh off the bench and who knows like you said. I checked out matchups that Williams had last year against the Mavericks and found one game that would support an argument that maybe he could have helped tonight. The Kings lost bad to the Mavs that night, but the majority of Williams success came in the second quarter when it was still a game and Dirk was in the game as well. Williams put up a +10 that game and they lost by 18.

I’d bring in Williams and try him before I put Perk on him. If that doesn’t work, there are no more options.

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by Jimmy Toscano on Jan 19, 2010 2:18 AM EST up reply actions  

You're a tough one, Mister T

(sing it to the Grinch tune …..:)
Ok… seriously for a moment…. Doc shoulda realized that Sheed MIGHT get in foul trouble (ahem), and certainly should have had a backup plan for covering Dirk. Coaching 101, right?

Williams, Shmilliams… we both know that wouldn’t work. It’s a simple matter of inches. Dirk’s a unique challenge – as we all know – because he’s 7’ and a MAJOR shooting threat. There are 3 guys on the Cs roster that can stop him… KG, Sheed… and maybe Perk. I propose that the backup for Sheed HAD to be Perk… uncomfortable and unusual as that assignment might be… it should have been the plan. Not because it’s such a wonderful idea, but because there was no other option.

You don’t just give up…. you give it a shot, best way you can. I.e., you have to be Perk’s Grinch and tell him to go dance with Dirk. Yes, and what a sight that would have been…! Perk and Dirk, dancing in the moonlight……..

by DRJ1 on Jan 19, 2010 2:35 AM EST up reply actions  

For those who don't click the link... here are the stats for that game

Shelden was in the game for about 14 minutes in the first half of the game (while it was still a 5 point game), the majority of those minutes Dirk was in the game as well.

In that time span, Williams had 14 points, 3 rebounds, 3 turnovers.

Dirk, in that same time span had 11 points, 2 rebounds, 3 turnovers.

Could Shelden have helped tonight? I don’t have highlights of that game last year so I don’t know for sure if Williams was even guarding Dirk, but they were both on the court at the same time and their positions are similar, so there is a good chance they had a direct affect on each other.

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by Jimmy Toscano on Jan 19, 2010 2:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Perk was already having enough trouble with Damp

…as Doc mentioned in the quotes (take out “We” and insert “Perk”.

Another option would be to put Pierce on Dirk and Scal on Marion. The Matrix isn’t nearly as athletic as he used to be.

When Perk was asked what he thought of Howard winning the gold medal this summer, he responded: "What’s his impression of me after I won a ring?"

by Green17 on Jan 19, 2010 6:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Baby...

…is much better equipped to handle Dampier than Dirk. With Damp, it’s a matter of position. He’s not the shooting threat that Dirk is. Baby can push him around. (Heck, Baby pushes Shaq around… sorta, sometimes.) Scal could probably do it too.

PP on Dirk would always be a disaster. ANYBODY on Dirk that is not tall enough is going to be a disaster, because with Dirk, it’s always a matter of inches. If you’re not tall enough, he will shoot right over your head… unless you foul him. With KG out, only Sheed and Perk on this team are tall enough to make a difference. Baby, Scal, Paul, Shelden, etc. on Dirk = all hopeless. Doc should have planned accordingly.

by DRJ1 on Jan 19, 2010 6:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Williams might help

He may give up a few inches, but he has the body strength (esp the lower body) to boher a shooter like Dirk, disrupting his foot work rythmn.

by getthat18now on Jan 19, 2010 6:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Useless

… he just shoots right over him.

by DRJ1 on Jan 19, 2010 6:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Without KG available - stopping Dirk was basically the wrong strategy

instead of having Sheed chase Dirk around and ending up in foul trouble, they should have adopted a similar strategy to what we do with Cleveland and Lebron – let Dirk score, but make him do it all by himself.

We didn’t lose the game because Dirk scored 37 points. We lost the game because his teammates also had free passes down the middle of the paint.

I would rather that Sheed had played softer on Dirk, with more help for Perk to keep the Mavs out of the paint. Let Dirk score 45 from outside, but I’ll bet we could have shut everybody else down. Sheed also would not have picked up as many fouls and would have been able to be a bigger contributor on offense.

I agree that having Perk guard Dirk is completely NOT the answer. That is so not Perk’s game. I’m not sure about the Shelden idea – he does have long arms and athleticism, but I’ve not been that impressed with his ability to play edge defense. He seems most effective guarding the post and rebounding.

by mmmmm on Jan 19, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice point

Not sure it would have worked, because Dirk is such a prolific scorer. But at least it’s a consistent point.

Problem is… Doc did None Of The Above.

by DRJ1 on Jan 19, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but....

{insert obvious point about how you gotta do what you gotta do}

by DRJ1 on Jan 19, 2010 1:22 AM EST up reply actions  

How do you know?

Are you saying the man CAN’T do it? I’d say that’s ridiculous. He can do it if he chooses to do it.

Your earlier point was good… maybe they didn’t have to worry so much about Dirk (I am not sure about that). But if your goal is to stop Dirk, you CANNOT do it with anyone who is too short. Of that you can be, and they should have been, certain. So there’s no other choice… you don’t just give up. You have Perk do what he’s not used to doing. He’s not a child who much be coddled in and around the paint.

by DRJ1 on Jan 19, 2010 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

(It's hard

…not to break my own rule about never fixing obvious typos. Ugh. :)

by DRJ1 on Jan 19, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok, change that to "has always shown himself to be a poor" edge defender

He’s does not have very good lateral movement. For that matter, Perk is not very fast at the inside-outside perimeter contention that he is asked to do. That has killed us many times in recent games. He’s just not very fleet of foot.

It is not ridiculous to point out what is obvious if you watched him play that last few years.

Note – I don’t consider this harsh criticism of Perk. He is still, imho, an elite post defender and a growing post offensive force. He just isn’t an edge defender. He also isn’t a slasher or ball handler or three-point shooter so I’m not going to ask him to to Rondo’s or Paul’s or Ray’s job either.

by mmmmm on Jan 19, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

And...

…if the goal was to stop Dirk, they should have practiced having Perk on the perimeter, in case the only other Dirk defender had to come out.

by DRJ1 on Jan 19, 2010 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

shudda cudda wudda

1) agree that they should have done something different – see my post above about NOT having the goal of stopping Dirk

2) no amount of practice is going to magically give Perk more lateral movement speed.

by mmmmm on Jan 19, 2010 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

No argument

…about Perk’s fleetness of foot, or his lateral speed. He’s not suited to guard the perimeter, clearly, which is why he’s not normally asked to try. But the point here is that there was no alternative. Assuming for the sake of this argument that stopping Dirk was a Cs’ goal… Doc basically GAVE UP once Sheed came out. That’s not acceptable.

Let’s also remember that Dirk is not exactly Usain Bolt out there. He’s a big, lumbering clod… who happens to be a great shooter. You don’t need a lot of lateral speed to follow Dirk around. You just need the one thing that only Perk had, once Sheed left…. height.

by DRJ1 on Jan 19, 2010 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Bottom line, then...

Either Doc should have adopted your earlier idea about not worrying too much about Dirk, etc., or he should have put Perk on Dirk. He did neither…. and thus helped blow the game. He and Rajon… the only two Cs point guards on the floor… both in dire need of brain transplants in last night’s 2nd half.

by DRJ1 on Jan 19, 2010 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

in contrast the bobcats have an 8-game home win streak going on.

can we play @ NJ again?

by cheekmeister on Jan 19, 2010 1:29 AM EST reply actions  

4-7 since Christmas

… and they could only beat teams like Raptors, Heat and Ntets. With the Magic, Hawks and the Lakers coming up to close out the month of January, it does not look too good.

by getthat18now on Jan 19, 2010 3:00 AM EST reply actions  

THE CELTICS..

Are self-destructing itself from the coach down to the players.. Overrated, that’s all I can say..

by BOOMBOOM on Jan 19, 2010 5:50 AM EST reply actions  

Right now, I'm starting to feel like that window is shut.

I can’t at all bring myself to call for rebuilding around Perk and Rondo yet, but the fact that I’m even thinking that is depressing to me.

I just really don’t want to spend the next few years hanging around the ECF to no end.

USG

by Ben Buchanan on Jan 19, 2010 10:42 AM EST reply actions  

OH, who has a better 3P% then Ray Allen this year? OOOO NATE ROBINSON

by specwarop on Jan 19, 2010 10:58 AM EST reply actions  

C's need breakout speed help

Guys without KG to plug the gap there was just no way this C team could really cover Dirk. Perk’s job is to play center not run around chasing Dirk. Dirk’s a unique player. The answer last night we couldn’t get was fast breaks.
Toronto is an excellent fast-break team and they routed the Mavs/Dirk. Yet the C’s just are not playing fast breaks at all. Baby can’t even do it. Rondo can but the shooters have to get down there fast if it’s going to be effective. To say the C’s need speed now is an understatement. They desperately need break speed to complement Rondo. Right now there are too many similar players. Excellent passers and playmakers but rather slow, and rather un-athletic. The team needs at least one more big break player .. with Rondo and KG that player could be deadly. If Doc isn’t ready to develop Walker into the role, pick someone up and drop a clone.

by Snowball on Jan 19, 2010 12:06 PM EST reply actions  

now that marbury is in china, we need a backup pg. rondo needs rest . marbury, a certified kook, who hadn’t played for ages was serviceable last year, once he got a semblance of his legs back. we need someone to move the ball when rondo gets gassed.

by nazzbo on Jan 19, 2010 2:18 PM EST reply actions  

At this point, Pierce and Doc Rivers must feel like broken records. Every game they lose it seems like it is for the same reasons. They don’t play 48 minutes, they don’t have enough energy at home, they stop playing team defense, or my personal favorite- they aren’t playing consistent basketball.

I’m not sure how I feel about this. These are not excuses, they are assessments: unarguable assessments. 99.9% of teams go through slumps during a season, year after year; even championship caliber teams like the Celtics.

Regardless of Garnett being out, the Celtics are definitely in a slump. This doesn’t mean the “window is closed” or the world is over. Through the best and the worst, otherwise, what’s the point of competition.

by stevenfuzz on Jan 19, 2010 3:15 PM EST reply actions  

not saying they are excuses, saying they are reasons

The point was that they are using the same reasons/mistakes over and over for losses- it’s not a different mistake every loss, which wouldn’t be as bad. When you make the same mistakes and have the same reasons for losing, it shows that you aren’t learning from the mistakes fast enough.

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