Time To Start Thinking All Star Rosters
by Jeff Clark on Jan 7, 2010 10:28 PM EST
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PrintSean Deveney takes a look at the All Star rosters and how they might shape up.
Who's the fourth guard in the East? If Iverson is voted in, he will start alongside Dwyane Wade, with Joe Johnson almost a certainty as the first backup guard. So who's next? The easy choice is Vince Carter (17.7 points, 4.7 rebounds), but though both his numbers and his team are good, he hasn't been as effective as Celtics guard Rajon Rondo (13.5 points, 9.6 assists) or Sixers guard Andre Iguodala (18.5 points, 6.8 rebounds, 5.7 assists).
Gerald Wallace, Josh Smith or Paul Pierce? Barring some odd twist in the voting, LeBron James and Kevin Garnett will be the starting forwards for the East. Chris Bosh is a lock for one of the backup forward spots. The other spot, though, is far from a lock. Pierce has good numbers for the East's top team, but he has been injured, and his 18.1 points per game is his lowest output since his rookie year. Smith has been more effective than Pierce, becoming one of the East's best defensive players. But, though the Bobcats are not an elite team, it would be very difficult to leave off Wallace, who is averaging 18.3 points and 11.8 rebounds.
I tell ya, the Iverson selection is kind of amusing in a way, but if he pushes a more deserving player off the team, that would be a real shame. Regardless, there's no way Rajon Rondo should not be on this team. Likewise, there's no reason Pierce shouldn't be on there either, though I can see how the spots might start filling up fast. It would be fun to have Ray there too, but I'm thinking he's had his run and will likely be left off the list this time.
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Nobody Cares
about Brickowski’s opinions.
Rondo should most definitely be on the team. He deserves it as one of the best PGs in the league. I think he’s actually playing better then Chris Paul right now.
Though a case can be made for Pierce, I hope he doesn’t make it. Take the week to rest. If it was possible for KG, too, I would take it. Gerald Wallace deserves a spot, the man is a stud. Ditto for Josh Smith.
I want Perk to play! Though undoubtedly Shaq will be the coach’s pick.
by KY Celts fan on Jan 7, 2010 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with all this except...
I dont think Shaq has a chance in hell of making this team. Backup center SHOULD be between Perk, Lopez, Lee, and Horford IMO
I think it would be pretty funny if two+ years removed from the analysts predicting Rondo and Perk would be the C’s achilles heal, they both join KG on the All-Star roster instead of Pierce and Allen.
P2 is the man.
I wish there was a way to just negate Iverson from getting votes
I know that’s not gonna happen but it just sucks that a more deserving player won’t get it.
KG is a lock to start (even though that’s questionable, IMO, he’s still KG but there are better playing forwards this season).
I honestly don’t see Pierce getting the fourth spot over Smith right now, even though I think that’s more of a toss-up.
Rondo – if he doesn’t get a spot, I will probably riot.
Don't Trade Rondo or Perk!
I find it fascinating that Allen Iverson can still get all those votes
Honestly, how big is his family?? I can’t see how educated NBA fans could vote him in. If Iverson is on the team, it will be a shame. He will certainly take the spot of someone who deserves it more, it better not be Pierce who doesn’t make it because of him- but then again maybe the rest is better for him.
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Nobody Cares
It’s true, Jeff. The NBA all-star game is a charade and a marketing stunt. This contrived media event has nothing to do with real basketball. Nobody plays defense, and it’s just an opportunity for a few rich men to schmooze. I don’t watch it any more.
I would certainly hope that no Celtic is an all-star. I would much rather see everyone get 4 days off.
If they want to mae the all-star game at least slightly relevant, do wnat MLB did and give the winning comference home court advantage in the NBA finals.
Completely agree....
Nothing good ever comes out of the All-Star Game!
If forced to choose, I`d prefer watching the slam dunk contest or the 3-point shooting competition over the game itself….not that either of those are “must see” television events either.
i agree too brick
Its a waste of time the all star game. the prestige of being an all star in the nba is now a joke if losers like AI are picked ahead of much more deserving players.
Brickowski please....
The All star game in any sport is about honoring the best players in the game. It’s not supposed to matter. What matters is who makes the team, which is what we are talking about right now and is also what made your response appear so ignorant. Think about it, the MLB awards its best players with the reward of playing an extra game then the rest of the players and that game means EVERYTHING. Home field in the world series! What could be bigger? It’s absolutely retarded. The team with the best record should be awarded home field, because they earned it through the course of a year, not one “fashion” game. The article was about WHO is going to make it, not who will win.
SCOTT
But that's the thing
If AI makes it after being very close to not making a team, then what’s the point?
No, I agree with Brick, for once. Is the ASG supposed to be about the best players or the most popular? I’m afraid there’s a difference.
by Tai on Jan 8, 2010 1:00 AM EST up reply actions
that's why fan voting is stupid
But unlike the Probowl and MLB All-Star game, the NBA All-Star game does get some viewers, and people don’t care to see Gerald Wallace and Brook Lopez, though they deserve it. Follow the Benjamins.
I think the coaches generally make pretty good decisions as to the reserves. Maybe they’ll choose they young boys in Green.
Can't see Paul being left off the all star team
Coaches now our entire team runs around him, his play and the attention he draws (as seen in our games without him).
And no way does Gerald Wallace deserve the spot over Paul. Just because Paul has more help and a better team, he should be penalized? I think they both deserve to be there, but you have to go with Pierce first. Does anyone doubt Paul would be as effective or more so on the Bobcats? Could the same be said of Wallace and the C’s?
Coaches also wouldn’t want to piss him P2 off, then have to face him in the playoffs.
Let’s just hope Rajon gets the spot he deserves and we end up with three all stars
Fan Voting is ruining the all star game...
I’m not sure being an all star even represents something to me anymore. It’s become more of a “stats” or “fame” symbol than a true measure of the league’s best 20 players. Statistics no longer matter, being in the public eye does. There will probably come a time (very shortly) where Rondo is enshrined into this lucky club who gets to basically go to the all star game every year regardless of how they perform (iverson, mcgrady, carter). But as of right now, he’s not in that club. So much so that even the coaches (who are supposed to know basketball) will likely pass on Rondo in favor of Carter. This will be a true shame. Vince Carter’s best season of his career has NOTHING on what Rondo is doing this year.
Being one of the very unlucky celts fans who does not live in Boston, I’ve been fortunate enough to listen to just about every opposing announcer label Rondo as an absolute lock for the all star team. It’s not just Boston fans that see it anymore, the nation is catching on. It’s time the NBA does as well.
Thank you Danny Ainge for drafting this kid.
SCOTT
Pierce
You point to Pierce’s 18.1 PPG, his lowest output since rookie year, as a reason he might be kept off the team but I look at two of his other stats…FG% and 3PT% which this season have been the highest in his career. I think Pierce still more than deserves a spot on the all-star team and it would be a shame if he is left off
That's basically the 'problem' for this whole team
when it comes to the All Star game.
The All Star game selections favor guys who score a lot of points. The Celtic’s offense is so spread around that they don’t have anybody in the top scoring ranks – not even close.
Ray Allen has logged the most minutes on the Celtics but has taken far fewer shots than he used to in the past and his scoring is correspondingly down significantly. By one measure he is clearly one of the most important pieces on one of the top 5 teams of the NBA. By the other he doesn’t stand a ghost of chance of being considered for the All Star game.
Why was Iverson even on the ballot?
You can cut out all the silly voting by not putting players not worthy of allstar votes on the ballot!
Spots per roster
Since there are 12 players on each All-Star roster, it may not matter about the 4th guard or the 4th forward. We can have 5 of each, right? This is how I think it SHOULD play out.
Starters
G Wade
G Iverson
F Lebron
F KG
C Howard
Bench
G J. Johnson, Vince, Rondo
F Pierce, G. Wallace, J. Smith
C Bosh (he was the coach choice for backup center last year, why not again?)
That pretty much covers everyone who should be there, right?
no
no brandon jennings… overrrated… hes now play less minutes then the backup of his team… making him the starting backup pointgaurd
Except for Perk and David Lee
Yeah… but somebody’s gonna get screwed over thanks to the idiots who voted in AI.
Jennings
While we can all agree that Jennings has a bright future, I think his 55 point game made him overrated pretty quickly. I would love to see any point guard bump Vince off this list, but it won’t happen. Derrick Rose not even getting mentioned is the shocking part to me.
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