No Need to Panic
by Greg Payne on Oct 28, 2010 1:07 AM EDT
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PrintConsider this the "We just suffered our first tough loss of the season, but let's not overreact" post. Was last night disappointing? Definitely. Frustrating? Absolutely. Realistically, should the Celtics have won last night's game and stand at 2-0? You bet. But they didn't, and so they stand at 1-1. We all know it's a looooong season. Even longer than the second Anthony Parker was granted to get that three-pointer off last night. So let's not freak out completely just yet.
I don't think last night's loss, in any way, means this team is diverting down the path it took last season. We can't say that after just one loss. It had the makings of a perfect trap game. The C's were coming off an emotional win in perhaps the most hyped-up opening game of any NBA season ever. The Cavaliers, and every fan in the arena, were poised to rally around the idea of "no more LeBron" (seriously, did the Cavaliers play like a team wallowing in self-pity because LeBron wasn't around?). And it was the second night of a back-to-back against a team with guys who'll scrap for every point they score. It was a bad loss, but bad losses have always happened (not just during last season). Remember when the Celtics lost back-to-back games to the Washington Wizards during the championship season? Or when they fell to the Indiana Pacers in the third game of the season during the 2008-2009 campaign? Should I point out that the Celtics started 27-2 that season?
Was effort a factor last night? It's certainly possible, and maybe even probable. I wouldn't rule out fatigue entirely. The 3-12 shooting from three-point nation might suggest fatigue more than effort, but, in my opinion, execution was the biggest issue, both offensively and defensively. The 19 turnovers were the gaping flaw, closely followed by the three-point woes. I mean, last year during the regular season (still an anomaly in my opinion), and even in the postseason, didn't the team struggle the most when it turned the ball over too often and failed to hit its three-point field goals (the other issue was rebounding of course)? But turnovers are nothing new for this core of players. We've been talking about turnovers since Garnett, Pierce, and Allen united. It's not like last season was the first time turnovers plagued this group. And if those two things happen against a subpar opponent (like in last night's game), it's not outlandish to think that that opponent will stand a fighting chance. If Ray Allen hits that three-point field goal from the left wing with 58 seconds left and ties the game at 89, unleashing an entirely new ending that results in a Celtics win, we're sitting here much calmer. Some shots just didn't fall. It happens. Bad losses always wreak havoc with our emotions.
I'm sure the nightmare that was last season is still hanging over us somewhat, and last night brought back some bad memories. But I say we let this team play more than just two games before we deem it 2009-2010 all over again. Bring on the Knicks.
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Not worried
You can see how good this team can be, but it will take time and some losses for them to get to where they need to be.
reality check
“I don’t think last night’s loss, in any way, means this team is diverting down the path it took last season. We can’t say that after just one loss.”——————-this is pathetic——Celtics better not be in denial of the very statistic that caused them to loose to LOS ANGELES LAKERS—-REMEMBER THE FAMOUS WORDS FROM JACKSON—-“CELTICS have lost more games than any other team in the 4th quarter….” Obvious there is something wrong with this team beside AGE—-its got to be Atitude—-Shaq said it well——“overconfident”—-Pierce said in interview during finals—"wer going to L A to wrap it up….REALLY…….well believe what you may—I love the Celtics and watched them since the sixties—Bill Russell and company——and I have this to say——you want to maintain momentum through the 4th quarter—you need superior shooting—-so would you take a west or wafer over a Carmelo Anthony??? well if you leave finals again a looser —your chances I believe would be better with Carmelo than other way around—-26 points a game….NO Brain er!!!
It sounds like you love to talk about getting Carmelo in almost every single post
Without saying how exactly the Celtics would get him. I can’t lie, I’m starting to feel like you’re saying that out of spite.
positive attitude
That’s what is lacking——“FIND A WAY OR MAKE ONE” Ainge can do it——-He needs to give a few players and money and a draft pick—-but you will not replace a star like Pierce or Allen with a mediocre shooter———Celtics need to find stars proven to continue down the road or you will be facing a 20 year drought similar to the LEN BIAS fiasco—-remember????How can you stay competitive unless you find talent that will Build your team..
So...
“A few players and money and a draft pick”? So which players do you give for Melo?
It always comes down to Rondo and either Perk or Davis in order to get the $ to work.
Like that is going to happen? For a guy that wouldn’t get Ubuntu if you gave him 4 U’s?
by GetYourSoxOn on Oct 28, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
try this-but wait til he is free agent
wafer, Jo,lasme and draft pick
If he is a free agent, the Celtics can't trade for him.
and they cannot trade Lasme since he is not under contract.
He makes over 17 million this year, good luck matching that salary.
by GetYourSoxOn on Oct 28, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Zappo, do you see some scenario outside of giving up Rondo and maybe Baby
… to get Carmelo? Because short of giving up Rondo, I think Denver hangs up the phone.
Look, I’d like for us to trade for LeBron while we’re at it too, but if there’s no realistic scenario to get him, then I won’t post ’Let’s trade for LeBron’ on a daily basis.
So let’s hear your realistic trade scenario where we get Carmelo. If there is none, then why keep posting about getting him every day?
The beatings will continue until morale improves.
patience
wait till carmelo is a free agent—middle of this year and you will not worry about giving anything
Yeah, I'm sure they'll be giving him away for a second rounder and cap fodder.
The beatings will continue until morale improves.
you do realize that
melo wont be a FA until next year adn that you need cap space to sign FA’s right? we’d have to trade ray, pierce and kg for no contracts coming back just to get to the salary cap number. we’d then have to trade away the amount of salary that melo would want per season with no contracts coming back in order to sign melo. so basically you end up with a team of bradley, west, melo, harangody, shaq, thats a playoff team if i ever saw one.
melo to the celtics? you have a better chance of seeing jesus walk again
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Oct 28, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
3 quarter team
So far this year the Celtics have not come out in the 4th quarter. Yeah we beat the heat, but in case you didn’t know a 20 point lead became 3 with little left in the fourth quarter. And if it wasn’t for Ray’s 3, who knows what would have happened. All I know is Doc needs to address this, this ain’t hockey, you got to play the full 48
I laughed out loud
when I just heard the Celtics lost to Cleveland. This is a perfect example of “THE SWITCH”, but I hope “it’s” on all the time, so it won’t be like last year’s regular season. No need to worry really.
"We have to do the impossible, but it is possible." -Kevin Garnett
Okay, I'll bite:
Isn’t the 2nd game of the season a bit early to fall into the complacency and letdown of a ‘trap game’?
I agree - give the Cavs credit
To diminish their effort isn’t reasonable – they will prove that indeed LeBron DID have help in Cle
by nba is the worst on Oct 28, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, why can't LBJ get a supporting cast like that in Miami?
I doubt Miami’s record this year will be as good as Cleveland’s the last 2. The playoffs should be interesting.
the cav's are built around athletic hustle players this year
those are the teams we usually struggle with, give them alot of credit. side show bob and hickson were a handful
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Oct 28, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
It's early but...
Also keep in mind the C’s started last season 23-5 before they coasted the rest of the way. They don’t have the luxury to lose these type of games early in the season, and with the Eastern Conference much improved home court might prove more valuable this season.
One loss isn’t a big deal but the way it happened is worrisome…
Careless turnovers, horrible 3 point shooting and being outhustled all were crucial elements in tonight’s loss.
Last season the C’s led the NBA in blowing double digit leads and did so again tonight. They were dominated in the 4th quarter with the starters unable to put away a Cavalier team starting 3 bench level players that might not even make the C’s roster.
Exactly-- they had to work themselves into boredom and ennui and blown leads last season.
They seem to have carried it over this year right out of the shoot.
100% correct
I totally agree—Doc you need to drive this team better——find the switch and turn it up or find trades that will make it happen——suggest CARMELO ANTHONY!!
You never once have said anything that makes sense.
Regarding how they would ever bring in Melo…
I mean really, Paul is already signed for 4 years, and they play the same position. So is one of them going to come off the bench? What are you doing to give Denver to make this work, what assets do you have that other teams couldn’t match or beat? Davis? Draft picks?
Regardless of the fact that Anthony is in my mind the single most over-rated player in the entire NBA, and I wouldn’t even give up a first rounder for him straight up. But if you’re going to jump into every thread and yell CARMELO ANTHONY, at least make some argument that’s intelligent.
... And the silence is deafening
The beatings will continue until morale improves.
A few bad calls never hurt either...
In order to hype up the game on Friday against Miami for Cleveland, which is to be nationally televised. Good ploy by Stern and the refs, who clearly gave some gift calls tonight.
The blocked shot by Garnett that was called a goaltend, the Technicals on Nate and Shaq, the 3 second Anthony Parker 3 point shot with one on the shot clock, etc. Granted, we still should’ve beat this team of scrubs, but we were playing on a back to back, and I think we still would’ve pulled out the W without all of the crap calls.
And we have our first baseless conspiracy theory of the season...
by TheOutletPass on Oct 28, 2010 2:48 AM EDT up reply actions
He's got a point though.
You can’t honestly tell me you watched that game and didn’t scream “WTF!” at each of those calls he just mentioned. They were god awful. And the Parker 3 that basically put the nail in the coffin was atrocious, watch that play in real time and do a count for yourself, you’ll hit a full 2 count before you even see him rise up, nevermind let go of the ball.
They didn’t start the clock till he was already into his shooting motion, a good second and a half after he touched it.
Ridiculous call by the officials.
That one was close at least.
I gotta admit, I looked at at a number of times and really couldn’t tell. For that matter I don’t think it was conclusive enough to overturn the call on the court.
But whatever, at least it was a tough call.
Early Games
It’s not unusual for teams to get unexpected wins or losses early in the season. So on that alone I would not panic. But honestly, the Cs aren’t nearly as good as they will be once West comes back and JO gets into playing shape. Nevertheless, the last few years they’ve had trouble with turnovers, and this year doesn’t appear to be any different. So there are going to be games they just give away. And this was one of them.
Hats off however to the Cavs. Great way for them to start their season.
alright, alright
I don’t care for Wafer, but as a criticism, that’s pushing it a might, don’t you think?
Biggest mistake they made.
Was keeping Wafer on.
He’s proven already the pre-season wasn’t a fluke. And he’ll be relegated to resident towel waver, soon as Delonte comes back. He looks completely lost on the court, and refuses to pull the trigger.
Glad you brought up the Indiana loss early in 08-09
This seemed very similar… the Celtics, spinning off an emotional, hyped win over a good team proceed to lose to a bad team that’s psyched for its home opener.
Cold
Not worried, but hoping Nate starts to find his groove soon. As for Wafer — the one thing the guy was called for to do is shoot. The invisible man.
Panic?
It’s game 2 of a season that promises more than 100 games!!!!!
Back to Back games
The Cetics are going to struggle in every back to back game. Just the age of this team. Other than that, they will be fine.
1.14.10, the day I went green.
19 B2Bs
Lakers have the least with 15… surprise surprise.
I don't think it is at all an overreaction
To think that the obvious lack of effort last night is concerning.
Sure, it’s always tough to play come off of a highly emotional win and play an inferior opponent the very next night. There is bound to be a letdown. That being said, this team has shown a pattern of not bringing their “A” game against lesser opponents. They seem to just not care about the result. Shaq, himself, even said “we took the them a little to lightly”.
Overall, I am in no way going to lose faith in this team even if they do tank games like this again this year. Didn’t last year, check my posts if you’d like. When the C’s bring their best, they are the best. On the other hand though, games like this sure will make it another frustrating regular season.
KG had 9/15
To me, his rebounding is the best thing about this year so far (2-game avg 12.5 rpg)
by nba is the worst on Oct 28, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
KG looks spry out there. It would be fantastic if he can continue to pull down boards at this rate, or close to it, over the course of the entire season.
He looks aggressive.
Which is something that is encouraging, he’s not just going after rebounds, he’s battling for them. Grabbing and ringing the ball in with ferociousness. He’s attacking rebounds, not just letting them come to him, which we saw too much of last year.
where's rondo's headband?
i’m not very updated right now. so what happened to rondo’s headband?
gie+Rondo4MVP
Stern banned upside down headbands
So I’m guessing Rondo just decided to move on from the headband out of principle.
All I can say is, Stern sure is a fascist. I just wonder when the uprising will finally happen.
I find it hard to object to any swipe at Stern...
But the fact is, Rondo stopped wearing his headband during his scrimmages with the U.S. National team during the summer. So I’m not sure his lack of a head band has anything to do with Stern.
Back to back's definitely hurt early
The team needs to get it’s legs. A home & road back to back is a tough early test. The most encouraging thing I’m seeing from these 2 games is KG’s rebounding numbers. If KG, Pierce and Rondo can board with some consistency, the team will be in good shape. Turnovers and fouls were problems in both games so far. Some of that could be early jitters and quick whistles.
A running theme for the C’s is when Rondo’s scoring is up, the team usually loses. I do think he’s got a tough job looking for his offense and distributing. But teams are always going to give him space overdoubling out PP and Ray. Rondo just has to take good shots.
With the C's deep bench....
I assume back to backs will not be as much of a concern as opposed to if the C’s had a thin bench.
Doc needs to watch the starters minutes much carefully during back to back games and utilize the bench more so then in non back to back games to protect the starters from fatigue etc.
If we could get something, anything, out of JO, it'd help our cause
Delonte coming back will make the second unit function much smoother, I think, and allow both Paul (by allowing Quis to play backup 3 almost exclusively) and Ray to get a few more minutes rest, and allow Nate to be more effective by playing off the ball more. Baby has been great so far, continuing his fine play from the preseason.
JO has been a disaster so far though. Even Semih getting a few minutes will help keep Shaq and JO’s minutes down. Might not seem like much, but over the long haul, the difference between playing 24 minutes and 19 a game could be a great thing for Shaq. (I never thought I’d be saying this back in the SL.)
The beatings will continue until morale improves.
Agree Delonte coming back will be a big lift.....
and should help Nate’s game improve as he has struggled in the first 2 games of the season so far.
Jermaine should come along soon hopefully also.
In the preseason considering he was injured and playing limited, inconsistent minutes he played well…rebounding, defending the low post, blocking and altering shots especially.
He just seems to be in a bad rut starting out the season just like Nate.
Hopefully Jermaine, Nate and the rest of the C’s will work out the kinks in practice and in the upcoming games and all will be running on all cylinders soon.
I liked JO's post defense in the preseason too.
Man, he’s been lousy the first couple of games though. On the bright side, it can only get better.
The beatings will continue until morale improves.
I would hope not
seeing as how it was 2nd game of the season.
Perfect storm:
Boston played down
Cleveland played up
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
+1
Home opener for an underdog team coming off an emotional summer.
Road back 2 back for the Celts after an emotionally draining home opener of their own.
It isn’t really that complicated, is it.
I agree.
But given what happened last year, it’s something to be monitored. If this becomes a habit it will be problematic.
I mean, if it wasn’t for their what… 20-3 (or whatever it was) start up until Christmas, where would that team have ended up last year?
Here’s a sobering thought for you, what if they play the whole season that way? Hows the 8th seed sound to anyone?
8th seed?
That means we get to play Orlando in the 1st round.
by GetYourSoxOn on Oct 29, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly.
It would mean no easy rounds through the entire playoffs.
Which is exactly my point, they can’t play an entire season the way they played the second half of last year. They wouldn’t of gotten away with it last year without that great start.
So although, yes, this is just one game, and there’s no reason to panic, it needs to be monitored. Their going to have to start taking every team serious and not taking nights off in these “trap games” they can’t afford to do what they did for half of last year.
my previous post was purely a joke aimed at the Heat
and had nothing to do with jumping on the Panic Train.
I think back-to-backs were invented just to give the lesser teams a chance at an upset. If the entire season was spent with 2-3 days (2.5 on average, more or less, for a 30 week season) between games, the bottom dwellers would be more likely to “lose when they are supposed to”.
When the traveling team loses on the 2nd game of a back-to-back, it is just part of the natural processes of life and nothing to get excited about.
Speaking of nature and/or of natural things, I just saw over 200 geese fly over me when I was walking my dog out back. I heard them easily 10 minutes before I saw them. Their cacophony reminded me of this (and other) Celtic boards after a tough loss. (LOL)
by GetYourSoxOn on Oct 29, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
JJ Hickson
Guy just has huge games against us! Did no one on this team watch tape from last year when he ran silly when Shaq (then with Cle.) was either out or hurt ? That’s what was the most frustrating for me to watch, like “there he goes again”. If they contained him at all we win, but they didn’t. Pierce and Allen a combined 9 for 25, allowed them to get out and run, and our bigs can’t keep up with guys like Hickson on the break.
Hickson is a great player.
This is going to be a breakout year for him.
No need to panic is right....
The C’s should be fine…they just have to work out some kinks.
Also just like I posted after last nights game I think the main reason the C’s struggled last night and in the opener (even though they won it) was because I think the bench lacks depth and fire power at this given moment.
Its odd to say that since the bench was suppose to be a big weapon this season for the C’s ….but at the moment the bench is struggling and not contributing (other then Daniels and Baby who are playing well) due to the fact.
Nate is struggling
Jermaine is struggling.
Shaq is starting (so he offers no punch off the bench)
Delonte is out due to his suspension.
Erden is not getting minutes (due to his shoulder?)
I think though the C’s will be fine short term once Nate & Jermaine work out of their ruts, Delonte comes back from his suspension and if Doc can gives Erden some minutes off the bench.
Long term they will be in even better shape once Perk comes back and Shaq moves back to the bench to add depth to the 2nd unit along with Jermaine, Baby, Delonte , Nate Daniels and Erden.
We just have to be patient until then.
I wasn't surprised at all but a bit frustrated when watching
It will be the same way all season no matter who play on the 2nd night of a back to back.
Also, factor in the mentality and psychology behind it… and it becomes more reasonable. Cavs fans in that stadium were rocking last night. They wanted/needed this win more then we did against the Heat.
Because we beat Lebron… the Cavs painted a target on us and played as though if they beat us they too were beating Lebron. They played like they were playing for the dignity of an entire city last night. Those emotions might stick around for a while but it will be hard for the Cavs to keep that feeling all season.
I’m actually OK with this loss. It really does make Lebron even worse, much worse, IMO. That he still can’t beat Boston but his old team can without him.
Let's not forget Kendrick Perkins
Perkins is one of the best defensive centers in the league. He also has been playing with the other starters since 08. The O’Neils just are not the same level of chemistry or skills. Hopefully, he will be at full strength by February. He will be a like a great trade deadline pickup.
Don't get too excited
About Perkins return. Even if he is technically healthy, he will by no means be at 100% this year. Even if he is back in February which is being generous, he will still be very rusty for a few months and may not even be that helpful by the end of the year.
Don’t forget that it took Garnett at least a year to get back to what seemed like normal. Perkins may be able to help defensively in some instances but he will be a bit slower and have less lift which was not one of the strong parts of his game anyway. I just don’t think we should get too excited about Perkins’ return this season. I don’t think he is going to help out as much as everyone thinks.
The C’s need to learn to use the 2 O’Neal’s and Erdin as best as possible because we are going to need them.
Good points
But isn’t Perkins’ knee injury different than Garnett’s? Garnett had micro fractures which take forever to heal. Perkins I thought had just torn ligaments, which heal quicker. Also, Perkins is younger than Garnett and will heal faster. I bet he comes back better and quicker than you think.
speculatin is useless
No one can see into the future so none of us should be actin like we know exactly how perk will be when he comes back. Are we there w/him in rehab? No so none of us know how he’ll be.
by kobeshesnotconsenting! on Oct 28, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly
That’s kind of my point. We can’t be waiting for his return and expecting an automatic impact. I think the C’s need to make due with what they have and pretend Perkins won’t be coming back so if he is good to go, it will be an added bonus.
Instead of comparing Perk's rehab and return to KG,
I would compare it to Leon Powe’s rehab and return. Leon STILL isn’t playing, although he was activated last spring.
by GetYourSoxOn on Oct 28, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
More the system than his health.
The Cavs team wants to run, and with his injury issues, putting those kind of heavy miles on the tires is bad for Leon.
Good points all, DjRyB
Exactly what I project for Perk this year too. Anything better will be a pleasant surprise.
The beatings will continue until morale improves.
Agree % John70
As I posted above getting Per back will be a great boost.
We are lucky Danny was able to bring on board Shaq, Jermaine and even Erden to add big man depth the C’s I think definitely needed to add to the roster….but all that depth really gets lost if Perk is not playing and contributing.
Perk is the back bone of the C’s defense and if he can returns healthy and can contribute even at 65-75% later in the year I think that he will give the team a great boost and intensify the big man depth they have.
Until Perk returns though I think the C’s will be fine with Shaq . Jermaine and Erden holding down the fort once they get in a groove as we progress into the regular season..
Momentum Shifted On the Nate & Shaq Techs
I think that is when it all went downhill. The momentum completely shifted to the Cavs and the players and Cavs fans saw their opening and took advantage of it.
I still can’t get over that tech on Nate. If anything, it was an offensive foul but definitely not a technical. If you watch the replay, you see Nate jumping ridiculously high with his legs out and when the whistle was blown his head was turned towards half court. He certainly didn’t push off on purpose or at least in a malicious way. The guy is 5’8 and his head was above the rim. The guys feet are going to be high up on any defender. It was still unreal that he made that shot somehow.
I don’t even understand what Shaq did because they didn’t really show it but it looked like the ref was trying to show him up by waving his hands like a jerk for Shaq to go sit down. I have no idea what was said but it didn’t look like Shaq was flipping out by any means. Are guys not allowed to even ask a question these days without getting a T? Brutal.
Anyway, I think that’s when it all went downhill. very disappointing.
One thing on the Nate Tech
First, Nate was called for travelling and the whistle blew well before he drove to the basket for the layup. Honestly, I think this fact, combined with Nate’s flailing foot into Hollins’ (what it Hollins?) groin was the reason the tech was called. Nate never should ahve driven to the hoop after the whistle was blown. As for the Shaq thing, I also do not understand why he was T’ed up.
celtics
The problem is Doc, he doesnt put much faith in his 2nd team to hold their own. He has to let them play more in the last quarter, and rest the regulars. The days of the big three playing 40 minutes are over. This is the NBA and all the players are very good, or they wouldnt be here, and you you have to play with motivation every night, thats what separates champions, from chumps. The Celtics thought Cleveland was a night off from having to play hard. They got their first lesson in stupidity.
Check the box score man.
Only Rondo got anywhere near 40 minutes (38) Pierce had 33, Allen 35, Garnett 29.
Problem was the bench didn’t hold it’s own (Davis and Daniels played well though.) They had plenty of minutes to get it done, but Wafer was non-existent, and JO did nothing but travel and commit fouls. Starters finally put a run together in the 4th and looked to be pulling away, until two ridiculous technicals killed all momentum and things went south quick.
Can’t blame Doc for that.
Screw the cookie
Wafer deserves to be cut
by Warrior Spirit on Oct 28, 2010 1:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
We showed our age
and got out hustled.
by thereallargejames on Oct 28, 2010 11:34 AM EDT reply actions
I don't even understand the reason for the article - let alone the Panic
Don’t make me post the first picture of the season of Chicken Little on Game 2!!!!
don’t make me ….
Is it Soup Yet?
No need NOT to panic...
Two games
Two 4th quarter meltdowns
Two games failing to score 90 points.
No worries
So they sold cleveland short. The Cavs are gonna win alot of games that way. I mean, they’ll play hard, and they are likely to sneak up on teams.
Nevertheless, the Celtics are built to win when it matters.
Check out my Celtics season preview:
http://sonofsambowie.blogspot.com/2010/10/you-havent-heard-last-of-us-2011-boston.html
what kind of coaching
shaq should have been playing in the 4th quarter …….. dumb rotation, just like last year…
to many turnovers by rondo (rolanda) and paul ……
He wont though.
Bad as Robinson has been, Wafer has been worse.
So West will eat Wafer’s minutes. Daniels will exclusively be the 3. I think West coming back will help Robinson immensely, those two seemed to have a VERY good chemistry in the pre-season. Robinson needs to play off the ball some, he does not excel as the primary ball hander. He needs to be catching and shooting, running of screens, getting the ball in motion and making quick cuts. West’s ability to play the point will help both players succeed, as neither will have to be the primary PG and both can keep defenses on their heels by switching up looks and forcing defenders to switch from on-ball defenders to off-ball defenders on every possession.
Yeah I wanted and figured theyd win
But this game meant more to the cavs and city of cleveland than it did to us. I for 1 am happy that they were able to pull out their 1st victory as a team post lebooboo.
by Warrior Spirit on Oct 28, 2010 1:48 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
What does the inside of the the mind of some Celtic blog posters look like after Game 2 only????
…..Oh the Humanity ….of being 1-1
Is it Soup Yet?
the blimp
thats what shaq looked like in that pre-game jump suit. lol
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Oct 28, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
This was quite frankly an early X-Mas present
The Cavs desperately needed the first game at home and Boston, is Boston. They don’t really ever care until the post season either way, they just win because their talent over matches everyone else. Why would anyone in their right mind doubt the Celtics ever again based on the season’s wins or losses? Would you rather have a Lebron like season powerhouse or a playoff powerhouse like the Celtics? No both is not an option. The Celtics will lose stretches of games due to disinterest or sloppiness. Put a best of seven tag on it and watch who gets to four first though.
If you were a man I would punch you, right in the mouth.
Young legs matter in back-to-back games.
And there’re 2 more of them before Delonte West is back, one against Milwaukee and the other against Dallas. They better keep their turnovers down in those games.
Yes, panic. Panic now.
The team that played Game 6 of the Finals like it was a pickup game, like they WANTED to lose… the team with the astoundingly misplaced hubris to think they could always win Game 7, the team that lost its heart completely after 2008… that team is not going to win much in 2010. Prediction: the Celtics will end with a record just slightly better than .500, and will not make it out of the first playoff round. These guys are too old to care… they’re in it now for the money, and nothing else. (Yeah, KG too.)
Dumbest thing I've ever seen written.
If they were in it for the money they wouldn’t have re-signed.
Paul could of gotten paid a lot more elsewhere, so could have Shaq, so could have Ray. Ray could have easily gotten a team to bite on a 3-year deal. But he settled for 2 knowing Boston wasn’t going to sign anyone past 2012 (except Paul, but he’s younger, and well… it’s Paul Pierce.)
They are all about winning, and after last year, getting a championship is probably the only thing they care about.
missed delonte west
i think the whole team will be alot better when delonte is back with us.
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Oct 28, 2010 8:42 PM EDT reply actions
100% agree.
Wafer is useless, he’s replaced Bad TA, and there is no good side to him. It’s basically playing 4 v 5 when he’s on the court, the guys a ghost. Of course with how JO played too, it was like playing 3 v 5 for parts of that game.
West had great chemistry with Nate in the preseason, and having another guy who can play the point well on the court allows Nate to play off the ball, catch and shoot, or get the ball around screens when he’s in position to make a move. He’s excelled in that role during the pre-season, and West coming back will do great things for the team.
I really hope they cut Wafer when West is back, he’s painful to watch.
It's just like a Get Well Soon card.
The beatings will continue until morale improves.
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