Miami Heat Continue Slide, Lose By 16 To Pacers
Glass half empty view: So, ...maybe those "big" wins against the Heat weren't so big after all.
Glass half full view: Haaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaahhhh!
Pacers get 20 from Granger, beat Miami Heat 93-77 - NBA - Yahoo! Sports
Danny Granger had 20 points and 11 rebounds, Brandon Rush(notes) added 20 points and the Indiana Pacers added to Miami’s week of woe, beating the Heat 93-77 in the worst shooting game of Dwyane Wade’s(notes) career. "We came into their building knowing how good they’re supposed to be," Rush said. "And they just had a bad night."
Erick Dampier will not solve the Heat disaster - CBSSports.com
I'm not going to waste time with "Maybe this is the one that gets their head right." You'll hear no "Maybe this is the one that gets them in gear." No more of that. The Miami Heat are a mediocre team right now. It means nothing in regards to the playoffs, which they will likely make regardless of how bad they look now because they are able to out-talent a largely unimpressive Eastern Conference. It means nothing in terms of the legacy of the Big 3 or this grand experiment. It means simply that. The Miami Heat are an utterly mediocre team right now.
Source: Dampier to sign with Heat - CBSSports.com
Erick Dampier has a one-year offer from the Miami Heat and is expected to sign it Tuesday, CBSSports.com has learned. The 35-year-old center arrived in Miami Monday night and, pending his passing of a medical exam, will join the team to replace Udonis Haslem, who is out until at least February with a torn ligament in his foot. The deal is for one year at the prorated veteran's minimum, according to a person with knowledge of the situation.
Good luck with that.
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The Box Score Says it ALL
The Indiana bench completely outscored the Miami bench, despite Lebron playing 41+ minutes. Can’t way I’m surprised either.
Albeit, Wade & Lebron did both have off nights shooting (wade was 1-13), so good luck counting on that.
But in the words of one of my heroes, Jeff Clark, “HAAHAHA HAHAHAH” :)
The two wins against the heat are still “big”. The heat are a depleted team with multiple injuries. Sure, they are hitting a rough patch, but they will still be dangerous come playoff time.
As a Celtics fan, I would still see the heat (with Lebron+Wade+Bosh) as a playoff threat, no matter how badly they perform in the regular season. Teams with talent can beat any team, and lose to any team.
Just ask the Celtics in 2010. And probably this season.
Are they bigger than
Beating the Thunder in OKC?
Yes, bigger than the win is OKC.
After all, the heat is in the East, a team we MUST (or most likely) get pass to the finals. In the finals, it could be the Lakers/Spurs/Mavericks/Thunder.
Also, with all the hype going on with the heat (5-8 championships???), the Celtics would want to show the world who is the defending East Champs.
Beating the OKC is a statement that we can handle young+athletic teams (including crushing the hawks), but beating the heat twice is a statement of East supremacy.
I still think they can get it together, but...
…I wonder how long Riels will wait before he makes a coaching change? Dampier might help some, but he’s a notoriously unmotivated player. Etan Thomas would have been a better fit.
It's all about depth...
Right now, the Heat are playing without Miller and Haslem, Wade is banged up, and they stupidly declined to sign Dampier earlier. I worry that when they have all those pieces back, they’ll be a much more formidable team.
I think that health and chemistry will improve for the Heat as the season goes on. The one thing that they’re not going to learn, though, is toughness. They just seem like a mentally weak team that can be dominated by physical teams. That bodes well for us, even against a full-strength Heat.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
3 Things for the Big 2.5
To get and gear, Wade and Libby need to:
*move without the ball, not watching the other guy pound the ball and look for an entry.
*hit the 3 when the other guy dishes (never a strong point for either)
*man up on D (alone, someone else had their back. On them, now, – perimeter has holes).
Dont see any of that changing soon. Old habits die hard. (and btw, Bosh doesnt bring enough to add up to a big 3).
Heat don't have Ubuntu
they have no identity, no depth, no rallying cry outside of getting mad when they hear chants of “over-rated”. They’ll get better when their guys Miller, Halsem and Wade get healthy but they still can’t play “together” as Doc would put it.
Until the Heat get...
a legit big man or 2 and a point guard they will not reach the level that many expected them to reach this year.
Dampier helps a bit…but he is not the answer.
I like Wade. He is tough. The other 11? fugedabahtit.
The best part of this to me, is the contrast between our 3 in ’08 – they hit the ground tearing up the league, There was a plan, they worked together over the summer, Doc put it together.
This is the opposite. “It takes time to meld” – yeah – that’s what the summer is for/
I'd like to see the Heat bring Mark Blount out of retirement.
He’d fit right in with the Heat’s present chemistry.
honestly, this team will prob win 3-4 rings…JUST NOT IN THE NEXT 2 YEARS WITH THE CELTICS AROUND
by kobeshesnotconsenting! on Nov 23, 2010 11:52 AM EST reply actions
I, Me Me, Mine
George must have had a preminition of the future when he wrote that song, as it describes the Heat perfectly. Everybody’s out to get their’s and nobody is worrying about the team. Classic Lebron on display here….enjoy it. He should really get in the post and display all the hard work he’s put in during the offseason on his post play….that might actually help the team. but since LBJ’s all about himself you know he hasn’t worked on his post game. The only thing he’s been posting up are the young cuties down on the beach.
Erica Dampier was garbage a month ago and he still is today...
That guy is just terrible. I know his stats from last season look fairly solid, but they don’t tell the true story. That guy is just horrible. If I were KG, I’d call Damp “cancerous”
"I’m tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok." ~Shaq
by Max_in_Missouri on Nov 23, 2010 12:36 PM EST reply actions
I dunno I don't see how it wasn't obvious they would be like this
Everyone I know who watches a lot of basketball knew Lefaker should have gone to Chicago or stayed put. Chi would have been an upgrade from his Cle team
Last year Cle had Shaq and Sideshow Bob up front PLUS Hickson and Jamison. And Mia has LeBosh??? Sheeds shadow dominated LeBosh last year. Haslem is ok but come on, and he is not a big guy.
Did I mention Cle had Shaq and Sideshow Bob???
So Mia has Miller and Wade. Wade has been hurt a lot. If you had to guess one of the guys (the small 3)would play like he was an overrated joke and and another would get hurt who would you have picked? Thats right.
Cle had shooters too. Mia wasn’t gonna be better than Cle was, yet. Mle every year though
I don't understand the '09 CLE minus LeBron hate
It sounds like making excuses for Lebron, saying he had a lousy team in CLE built up around him.
That team last year… think about it: replace LeBron with Paul Pierce, and their coach Mike Brown with Doc Rivers… and that team easily could win a championship.
Not because PP is a better athlete, but a better teammate. With Brown’s coaching, you had a bunch of very capable role players and scorers standing around watching the Lebron show.
I kind of felt bad for the role players on CLE (except when they played the Celtics, then suffer the wrath) because it was watch the Lebron show, wait your turn to maybe get the ball with 4 seconds left on the shot clock, miss two in a row, and you are benched.
Their current record doesn't detract from our wins against them but this team is a mess right now
They’re still a formidable team when they play the Big 2 1/2 40-45 minutes which they did in both losses to Boston. LeBron and Wade can go off at any time and few people can guard them when they do. Dwayne had the worst shooting night of his career in the loss to the Pacers.
They had Haslem when we played them and it’s obvious losing him is huge for the Heat. They were out rebounded by 9 last night and I expect that trend to continue. Erick Dampier will not solve their problems, he was overrated in his prime and there must be a reason why he was sitting at home at the end of November when plenty of NBA teams could use a center.
When Wade and LeBron have big nights they can beat anyone but they can’t rely on that night in and night out when the rest of the roster is so weak. The only way this team is going anywhere in the playoffs is if they ship Chris Bosh out next month and receive a capable point guard and center in return. Pat Riley is not going to do that so they’re going nowhere.
Why get so worked up over Miami?
Miami has never won a title at Boston`s expense…something LA has done 3-5 times!
Because watching this team fail is the highlight of the season so far
I’m almost enjoying their losses more than Celtic wins. We don’t have to worry about the Lakers until June, I’m more concerned with the east right now and Miami was supposedly the biggest threat coming into the season.
Thanks Jeff, for the best laugh I had today - "the glass half full......."
As far as Miami goes, I made it very clear that the Celtics team play will beat Miami individualism almost every time [ twice already and counting ]. Any other decent team that relies on teamwork will take their measure as well.
Wade and Lebron just don’t complement one another- their roles have always been too similar, and while both are great players [ I prefer Wade to Lebron, although Lebron can be a beast ] in their own right, until one of them can change his style of play, they’re not going anywhere. Bosh is a big softie, who has to be spoon fed, and is a defensive liability. My prediction- they won’t mesh as a team this year, unless Riley takes over and makes changes. Coach Spo has already allowed Lebron to take away his coaching leadership, and it will only get worse, if/ when the losses continue to pile up.
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Goodbye, Erik Spoelstra! (probably)
It’s gonna happen. This is exactly how Pat Riley wanted it to happen. Now he has the excuse to step in and get another ring, a la Stan Van Gundy in 2006. But it won’t be until after the Lakers Christmas Day game. The Heat will embarrass themselves, and Riley will be coach by New Years.
Of course none of that is gonna matter, because the Celtics are gonna roll the East before taking on the Spurs in the finals (Lakers lose in 7 in the WCF).
Write it down.
I one point, I would have agreed...
However, I don`t see Riley taking over a sinking ship.
If they were to create some chemistry or positive energy first, then I could see it happening.
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Jeff,
I see the heat as an unfinnished project. I didn’t get caught up in all the hoop-la this off season. It ain’t that easy to just go out sign the best players and buy a title. It takes alot more than that to win a title. Tallent may get u to the playoffs but that’s it really.
The heat aren’t winning a title this year and maybe not next year. Teams win titles.
I being a life long Celtic fan preach this daily. Miami doesn’t hace the role players and tallent past the superfriends. Wade doesn’t know how to adjust. LEBRON is just unsure. Bosh however is plain out lost! Boston sanantonio LA even Orlando and Utah aand Denver has that team mentality to go with wide spread tallent., Miami will get things on track eventually…the superfriends will hopefully figure it out…if I’m Miami I tell lebron to play power foward…post up or I look to trade him for a coue of real good players. Hello clippers make an offer u have pieces to offer….long term looks good for Miami but for now they aren’t a real threat to any veteran championship caliber team.
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