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No Country For Young Men

The Celtics were too experienced for the young OKC squad early on.  Then they almost got a little too cute for their own good.  The C's just don't know how to play with a 20 point lead yet.  With that said, they took care of business in the end for a solid win to start the road trip.
  • The Thunder couldn't buy a bucket in the first half and didn't help their cause by not moving the basketball.
  • Meanwhile, the Celtics on the other hand had 15 assists at halftime - 8 of which were from Rondo of course.  (He would finish with a mere 10)
  • The lead blossomed to 20 points before the Thunder made their 3rd quarter 13-2 run, fueled by (no surprise) Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook.
  • They pulled within 6 before the C's bench actually pushed the lead back into the mid teens.
  • Then it was pretty much just a back and forth, ho-hum, keep em' at arms length distance to the end.
  • Looking down the box score, it was a very balanced effort from the bench.  Daniels, Davis, Robinson, and Erden each chipped in with 7 or more points.
  • In contrast was the Thunder's lopsided scoring, which came from Durant (34), Westbrook (16), and Kristic (13).  The rest of the team scored just 20 points combined.
  • See the OKC Thunderdome recap here.

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Didn't see most of the game but

It’s good to see the bench get it done.

by Tai on Nov 7, 2010 9:35 PM EST reply actions  

Great game by the bench

I was very happy with Semih’s performance too.

Even funnier,was when Wade said " I feel sorry for whoever has to guard us". Uh, I'm pretty sure there is a defense right here in Boston that specializes in punking teams just like yours Dwyane. Nobody scores on us easily.

by letsgoblue86 on Nov 7, 2010 9:36 PM EST reply actions  

great game

the win goes to the bench tonight with that fantastic effort in the 4th to put the game away

by slamtheking on Nov 7, 2010 9:38 PM EST reply actions  

Best title of the year so far...love it

Ray Allen and Big Baby players of the game….liked Semih this game as well. 6-1!!! good start.

Kristic had 13 for the Thunder but had to leave late in the game because his hair started to melt


 

Is it Soup Yet?

by Master Po on Nov 7, 2010 9:40 PM EST reply actions  

Nice strong win to start the road trip...

Bench gets the game ball tonight as Daniels, Baby and Erden all played great.

Erden is getting valuable playing minutes with Shaq out and playing rather well to his credit.

Jermaine also had a strong game, rebounding and especially on defense using his length well again blocking several shots and altering several others.

Nate’s offense still worry’s me though as his jumper is still off target.

Ray had a strong game for the starters…who should of put this game away late in the game but let the Thunder slip back in.

Though the C’s won tonight and have been lately Id like to see them get some more low post scoring attempts for the big’s especially KG and Jermaine as they are relying I think to much on perimeter scoring attempts instead of setting up in the paint for higher % scoring attempts.

by fordescort on Nov 7, 2010 9:52 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, I agree on KG in the post

Finally went back to it with 3:16 in the fourth…That short fade off the right block…Put us up 90-77 at the time.

by Greg Payne on Nov 7, 2010 9:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I know

both KG and Jermaine can hit the outside jumpers, but I think they need to look to score a bit more often in the low post to add some balance to the offense….

At the moment (though he is out now) Shaq is basically the only big looking to set up in the low post for scoring attempts and I think we need more then just 1 player trying to do so .

We know both KG and Jermaine are decent low post scorers when they do try to score in the paint and since its a higher % shot I think they should do it more often.

I think a perfect 50/50 balance of perimeter and in the paint offense from both KG and Jermaine would be ideal.

by fordescort on Nov 7, 2010 10:08 PM EST up reply actions  

well, that's exactly what you got in this game.

The Celts scored
16 pts off FTs
36 pts in paint (18 shots)
40 pts outside paint (18 shots including 4 3PTers).

So .. 18 shots in the paint & 18 outside shots.

50/50 on the nose.

The Celtics have tended in most games so far to outscore their opponents in the paint and in general have a higher ratio of shots in the paint than most teams.

by mmmmm on Nov 8, 2010 2:02 AM EST up reply actions  

No...

I am talking about KG and Jermaine having to get in the paint to score…..not the smaller players like Daniels, Pierce and Rondo etc.

Though its nice to see Daniels, Rondo Pierce etc drive and set up in the paint to try to score (like they did last night) Id like to see KG and Jermaine do so which was not the case last night or overall this season so far.

Again basically Shaq is the only big setting up in the low post for offensive attempts and I think a little more help from Jermaine and KG would be wise to help give the C’s a more balanced inside outside offensive presence.

Just my 2 cents though.

by fordescort on Nov 8, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Well it is nice of you to want that for Jermaine and KG as individuals

and I don’t disagree with your sentiment, but your second to last sentence says “… to help give the C’s a more balanced inside outside offensive presence.”

And my point is that the “C’s” (the team) already have that, per the numbers. And part of the reason is KG & JO’s ability to draw their defenders from under the post to one side or the other of the paint, enabling our other players to slash to the hoop.

I personally don’t care who is getting the layups, so long as we are getting them as a team.

But if your point is just following from the thought that a stronger, healthier JO is more likely to play a post-up game, that’s cool – I’d like that too. Because I want a stronger, healthier JO whether he plays post-up offense or not.

by mmmmm on Nov 8, 2010 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

great to see the bench step up

we need those guys like this for the whole road trip not to mention the season

JO played well even with injury as we now found out, give him credit for that

Nate’s hit more shots tonight than previous games, his offense will improve with Delonte coming back in a few games and handling the ball

Ray looked young last night, he seemed fresh, didn’t start to miss till the fourth quarter. He played 40mis, more than any starter, wonder how effective he’ll be at Dallas?

by Banner 18 on Nov 8, 2010 6:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't know how many of you caught the pre-game

on NBA-TV… kind of funny stuff.

Spend a good chunk of time (nicely) hyping Tommy and Mike and 30 years of broadcasting with a retrospective package, with Steve Smith and Barry really looking forward to hear them: “And now to the action, called by Tommy and Mike!”

Only it was Mike and Donny. Whoops.

Good win by the Cs and nice seeing the bench gel.

by Ergoat on Nov 7, 2010 9:52 PM EST reply actions  

Semih despite his lank

is looking solid.

Huge block by KG in the 4th—completely rejected Westbrook. KG got his spring back!!!

by ben_from_boston on Nov 7, 2010 10:02 PM EST reply actions  

Yup

Erden is looking good on the offense and defensive end of the court.

He just like Jermaine seems to know how to use his length well on defense and has a knack for blocking shots.

Would still like to seem him add some more muscle to his upper body so he can bang better in the low post against opposing big’s.

by fordescort on Nov 7, 2010 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

It's good seeing Erden out there. But he can fluctuate wildly from pretty good to terrible.

Over the course of the season, he’s likely to become more consistent, and the other guys will learn to trust his game. Doc just has to be patient about not yanking him off the floor for every miscue.

by no kidding on Nov 8, 2010 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

True..

he will have bad and good days…but thats what young and learning players do.

Key is as you say for Doc to be patient and give the kid minutes to try to grow as much as possible this year .

by fordescort on Nov 8, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

What a difference a bench makes! Doc trusted them again, towards the end of the first quarter, to hold a lead, and not only did they hold it, but they extended it. Kudos to Doc for continuing to trust the bench, despite several recent near disasters, and kudos to the bench for rising to the occasion. And what a difference that made! When the starters started to filter back in, the lead started to rocket towards twenty!

The way I see it, the game was basically won in the last two minutes of the first quarter, when the bench DIDN’T give up the lead the starters had forged.

Westbrook seemed to light Rondo up in the 3rd quarter. Of course even a great and competitive pg like Rondo is going to get lit up by other great and competitive point guards at times, but one couldn’t help but wonder if the problem with Rondo’s feet had something to do with it.

by P10 on Nov 7, 2010 10:22 PM EST reply actions  

Great win by the bench

The starter tried to give it away in the third quarter with the same old stuff — no passing, pounding the ball into the ground, one-on-one basketball that leads to mostly forced shots. But the bench would not let it happen. Nice to see Nate have a good game. I have to give Semih credit, but I still don’t think he is ready for the big time night in and night out. Cannot wait for Shaq to come back. 3 more games til Delonte-time.

by vinnie on Nov 7, 2010 10:22 PM EST reply actions  

Move on Over lebron,

We are all WITNESSES the Maturation of Glen Davis. He might the key to Winning Banner #18

by Change on Nov 7, 2010 10:53 PM EST reply actions  

Seems to me

Rondo is the best guy on the floor night in and night out. Finally consistent.

by TheOutletPass on Nov 7, 2010 10:57 PM EST reply actions  

Rondo, stop taking FT advice from Mark Price...

Erden is a perfect 7-for7 from the FT line this year!

by Title 18 on Nov 7, 2010 11:00 PM EST reply actions  

ditto on everyone’s comments, especially on more low post play. jermaine makes a big difference down low on defense. danny did it again with erden.

by nazzbo on Nov 7, 2010 11:12 PM EST reply actions  

working

A+ just wait intell delonte gets back the second unit will be even better.

by CBleedsGreeN on Nov 8, 2010 1:16 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Let’s hope so

SAVE THE PLANET. GO GREEN!

by CaliforniaGreen on Nov 8, 2010 1:33 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

+1

He should give it a big boost

by fordescort on Nov 8, 2010 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Heh, Durant is not good, he's great

     You just can’t stop a guy 6’10 who can drive the whole court for a layup, or pull up and shoot a LONG, VERY LONG three. And he will gain weight and muscle…and probably learn how to play defense. Think of him right now as a very improved version of Turkoglu…better driver, better long range shooter.

by Dipper on Nov 8, 2010 7:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Probably the best player in the NBA.

Well, one could put up a solid argument for either him, LeBron or Kobe.

The Once and Future King

by FlaGators on Nov 8, 2010 7:58 AM EST up reply actions  

The thing that's exciting about Durant

is that he still is quite a ways away from his peak.

As a former Sonic fan, I hate the Thunder as a team/org. But I love Durant. Awesome player.

by mmmmm on Nov 8, 2010 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Very true. We more than likely haven’t seen the best of Durant quite yet. A somewhat scary thought for non-OKC fans.

And I can’t blame you for hating on that organization after all that went down. I’d feel about the same way if any of my favorite teams moved locations, especially in that way.

The Once and Future King

by FlaGators on Nov 8, 2010 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Good game but...

still coming out after half time is still a problem for the C’s..
hope they can fix this..

by Dantuts on Nov 8, 2010 2:05 AM EST reply actions  

Fantastic victory. Staved off the challenge from OKC.

The Once and Future King

by FlaGators on Nov 8, 2010 7:57 AM EST reply actions  

the old vets get it done ,

durant is just a monster this kid could be the best player in the world right now. good game by shuttlesworth the truth the usual suspects we have a very good bench this year baby little nate heck even semih was giving us good minutes i am worried about jermane his knee issues are staring to give him problems thursdays game against the imposters that call themselves the big three is gonna be a war as long as this team is health in late march april no one can touch us.

lohaus #54

by lohaus#54 on Nov 8, 2010 7:55 PM EST reply actions  

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