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A Deeper Look at Avery Bradley

[Editor's note: Please welcome new author Kevin Henkin who has joined us along with the Celtics Stuff Live crew]

When it comes to Avery Bradley, for most Celtics fans, he probably fits most neatly into the category of "out of sight, out of mind". The team is winning with a roster that is deep and experienced. Thus, it's easy to forget about their first round draft pick from last summer, especially as he remains stuck on a shelf indefinitely nursing his surgically repaired left ankle.

Personally, I've remained steadily curious about Bradley throughout. Maybe it's the intrigue of the unknown. Bradley only saw 16 minutes on the court during the preseason and he's remained inactive with ankle recovery woes (and roster limitations) since the start of the regular season. Still, I've stayed hungry for answers in terms of what we can expect when Bradley is actually healthy and perhaps gets an opportunity to get into the rotation.

Since those answers can't come from us observers here in Boston, I went hunting elsewhere. Specifically, I spoke with a couple beat writers in Texas who watched Bradley for the duration of his only season in Austin, as well as Bradley's high school coach at Findlay Prep in suburban Las Vegas. Ironically enough, I've come away from those conversations with fair insights, yes, but also a slew of new questions about the rookie combo guard.

Consistent with scouting reports, all three Bradley observers agree that he offers explosive speed, lockdown defensive abilities and an unselfish attitude on the court. After that, however, you find a divergence of opinions on what Bradley has to offer at the NBA level.

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In terms of positives, Coach Michael Peck* - whose Findlay team won the high school national championship in 2009 with Bradley as his best player - lauds his former star's mid-range game as his primary offensive weapon.

* As a side note, it's important to understand that Peck isn't just any high school coach. He runs a veritable basketball factory of players generally headed to top Division I programs upon graduation. Also, before taking over at Findlay, he was an assistant coach for three years at UNLV under Charlie Spoonhour and Lon Kruger. In other words, his opinion carries some weight when it comes to assessing basketball talent.

"I always described him as kind of a Rip Hamilton," said Peck. "He had the best mid-range game that I've ever seen in terms of elite players at our level. He just had an unbelievable pull-up midrange jumper. For us, he was so fast and quick and strong enough to get by people but then elevate and get up there and shoot that thing."

Of course, whether or not Bradley can get the midrange shot off against bigger opposing players in the NBA remains to be seen. The mid-range comparison to Hamilton may indeed be apt but at 6-7 in the swingman position, size hasn't generally been so much of an issue for Rip to overcome. On the plus side, Avery Bradley comes advertised with a 37.5 inch vertical leap. While not exactly within the Gerald Green/48 inch stratosphere of superior release points, it should still help Bradley deal with his 6-2 size disadvantage as a combo guard.

As for Bradley's potential with longer range shooting, Mark Rosner - a beat writer assigned to the University of Texas for The Austin American-Statesman - witnessed a fair amount of inconsistency from Bradley last year.

"His three-point shooting at Texas was great against some bad Big 12 opponents that left him open to help inside against the Texas big guys. He had a harder time shooting against better teams that did not leave him open. He slumped at the end of the season. Some of that was probably psychological after the season [fell apart]. I think he is potentially better than he showed last season."

Regardless, Bradley's work on the other end of the court is what will likely earn him an opportunity from Doc Rivers to play. Interestingly enough, during our discussion, Coach Peck touched upon a couple of aspects of Bradley's defense that haven't been widely acknowledged.

Addressing whether Bradley tends to garner steals by gambling and cheating into the passing lanes, a knock that was sometimes put on Rajon Rondo early in his NBA career, Peck said, "With us, and watching Avery, honestly, I don't think he does that. I never experienced it with him where he gambled and reached and did that. With Rondo, it's probably my guess is that he's got such long arms and big hands that he kind of baits people to think, ‘Oh, I've gotten by you' but really he's got an extra four inch reach and long hands that he can go ahead and still get it. Avery's got a good wing span (6-7 and ¼ inches) but it's not like Rondo's. He's not quite as long and rangy."

Will Anderson, who followed Bradley last season as a beat writer for The Daily Texan, agrees with that assessment.

"I'd have to say he's more disciplined [than gambling for steals]. He was more like John Wall in using his foot speed to take the ball away from his assigned man."

Peck added, "One thing [Bradley] can and will do is really guard on the ball and he's really great on the pick and roll."

This is where the issue of what position Bradley is best suited to play truly comes to the forefront. On one hand, based on the claims above, you can see Bradley serving as a menace on opposing point guards even as they simply try to bring the ball up the court (credit is due to Jay King of Celtics Town for already making the early comparison to Lindsey Hunter). Obviously, there's real value to having a player serve that specific role on your roster.

On the other hand, Bradley has never spent meaningful time at point guard and on the occasions he did, he was less than stellar. In fact, according to Anderson, Bradley's discomfort at the point guard position on offense even had a negative impact on the defensive end.

"When [Bradley] is playing point guard, I think he's thinking about it too much," Anderson said. "He's not as natural at the position so it hurts his defense as well, when he's too caught up in trying to be a point guard and trying to run the whole court. When he's playing the shooting guard, his offense is much more natural and it translates to him not over-thinking his defense."

Rosner concurred: "Two former college coaches told me early on that they thought he could play point guard. I don't think the Texas coaches agreed, and frankly, I don't think he showed great vision when he dribbled. On the other hand, he is unselfish and willing to pass."

Rosner also offered up a couple of additional observations about Bradley's ball handling skills. "His handle is decent, not great. He didn't go to his left much, which was noticeable."

As for basketball IQ, Anderson's opinion on Bradley's was mixed.

"The NBA scouts had his physical and talent level off the charts, ten out of ten the whole way but the mental and physical preparedness were lower. I think he could have benefitted from more time in college. He's got a fair basketball IQ but he relies much more on his natural talent."

Coach Peck offered a similar albeit more positively spun assessment. "At our level," he said, "Avery was so much more athletic and explosive and stronger than a lot of the opponents that he faced that just the natural ability and talent allowed him to have success. But when he did face some teams that had some talent that were a little closer to his neck of the woods, he was able to play off the ball and use his mind a little bit and use his pace and angles instead of just ripping and going."

So there you have it. On the defensive end, you may just have the second coming of Lindsey Hunter under development, or at least a Rondo in terms of foot speed and instincts. On offense, however, the picture is far cloudier and isn't likely to clear up anytime soon, or at least until Bradley gets on the parquet floor and unveils his raw game for the fans in Boston.

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Welcome Kevin!

Nice post. And I do hope to see more of Bradley as the season progress.

"The idea is not to block every shot. The idea is to make your opponent believe that you might block every shot." - Bill Russell

by Marjun Raposon on Nov 9, 2010 7:13 AM EST reply actions  

Welcome Kevin!

and nice piece on Bradley to begin with!

Sounds like his offensive game is to be determined, (and possibly position).

Either way he seemed aggressive on the court in the short time we’ve seen him and defense is always in style on this team and in the league.

by Tom Halzack on Nov 9, 2010 8:40 AM EST reply actions  

Welcome aboard Kevin! Good article.

The one game I saw Bradley play, I loved his lock down defense!! Rondo has improved his game each year and hopefully Bradley can, too. I am partial to a pass first point guard, and if he can pick up that position as a backup, his mid range jumper will be a bonus. The Celtics players are particularly good at mentoring the younger guys, and hopefully Rondo (and Delonte) will continue the tradition. I can’t wait until we are back at full strength!

by thirstyboots18 on Nov 9, 2010 8:46 AM EST reply actions  

The comments about his intellect don’t scare me because of the organization that he’s with and the fact that it would make sense that he would rely on his physical prowess against lesser gifted opponents. Let’s hope that the Celtics get the most out of him.

Nice job Kev!

by Jughead on Nov 9, 2010 8:55 AM EST reply actions  

Good write up.

Very informing article and I think he will fit right in with the Celtics. If he can get some
quality time on the floor he may, very well, blossom into a great NBA player.

by mmbaby on Nov 9, 2010 9:31 AM EST reply actions  

hopefully just trade fodder

Welcome Kevin, great article.

My opinion is that I hope Bradley is just trade bait.
Rondo, Nate, Deltone are all young.
Much time and energy spent working Nate in and more will be
working Deltone in.

Bradley has more value on the market than in the team, imo.

by Snowball on Nov 9, 2010 9:49 AM EST reply actions  

He has zero value on the market, either talent-wise or dollar-wise

He hasn’t played one second of NBA ball in the regular season and his contract is very small, being in the first year of his rookie contract.

I doubt he will take minutes away from Delonte any time soon, this year or next. If he takes minutes away (eventually) from Nate, then so be it. That would mean that Bradley gets it. I really don’t expect that to happen this year either.

His biggest value will be down the road, post Nate and Delonte.

by GetYourSoxOn on Nov 9, 2010 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

The kid is only 19 (or maybe 20 now – when is his B-day?).

We did not get him to take over the team this year or next. He is basically part of foundation for the post-2012 Celtics.

That gives him two years to get spot playing time and the opportunity to learn from a great former guard coach (Doc) and two brilliant starting guards on the floor (Rondo and Ray). Its still too early to be certain which position he’ll end up at most, though my bet is he’ll end up being Ray’s replacement at the 2 working alongside Rondo in a couple of years.

I’m not worried at all about his supposed lack of length. He’s got the reach, vertical and defensive skills to defend much taller players at the 2 without any problem. And offensively, his speed combined with Rondo’s could be awesome on the break.

by mmmmm on Nov 9, 2010 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Bradley was born on Nov 26, 1990, so he will be 20 later this month

I also hope that he becomes Ray’s replacement at the 2 spot. Rondo and Bradley will make a dynamic duo!!

by GetYourSoxOn on Nov 10, 2010 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

nice article, the most insight into his game I've had yet

But I don’t see how he’s going to get significant minutes this year barring injuries. It seems clear he won’t be able to play PG on the NBA level and unless Nate’s less than stellar year continues I don’t think he’ll be taking minutes away from him at SG either. Maybe in spurts for defensive purposes but I can’t see him playing more than that at this point in the season. I suppose we’ll have a better idea when we actually see him on the court though. Either way as long as he’s not a total bust it looks like Von Wafer will be just about done when Avery returns.

by Josh88 on Nov 9, 2010 10:41 AM EST reply actions  

He's not likely to get any significant minutes this year.

He’s wicked young. Bradley is the future. The next two years for him are about watching, practicing and learning. Any minutes he gets on the floor are pure frosting and gum drops.

by mmmmm on Nov 9, 2010 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Welcome aboard

Nice read. I’d like to hear some specifics about his injury. How could it POSSIBLY be taking this long to heal?

It’s starting to remind me of the Michael Smith situation. He arrived (pick #13) with purportedly minor injuries that never seemed to heal, and he drifted quickly out of the league.

I want more hard info about that $#&%^# ankle!

"People don't understand, if you can't live the rest of your life off one year in the NBA, you can't live off 21." -- Keon Clark

by Eeyore III on Nov 9, 2010 11:48 AM EST reply actions  

Bird

Reminds of the old story where Larry Bird and Smith were on a team bus and Smith was complaining about something his agent had called him about. Bird said it was unbelievable and Smith nodded until Bird said something like “No, I mean it’s unbelievable that your agent has a phone.” Something along those lines.

by Kevin Henkin on Nov 9, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Very interesting read...

…a great intro to a new player coming into the league. I too would like to hear more about Avery’s injury history. Has he been clean up until now?

by mattyweb on Nov 9, 2010 12:59 PM EST reply actions  

Here's what I'm hoping for

That he’s a cross between Lindsey Hunter, but with some Steve Francis offensive ability too.

A guy can dream.

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

by Mencius on Nov 9, 2010 1:49 PM EST reply actions  

So, Celticsblog has their own "fantastic five" now?

Clark, Halzack, Toscano, Payne and Henkin.

Quite a lineup

by Casperian on Nov 9, 2010 1:57 PM EST reply actions  

[looks down at the bench]

[signals for Jack Jemsek to sub in]

he’s got an article locked and loaded for tomorrow AM

"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V

by Jeff Clark on Nov 9, 2010 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

6th Man of the Year

is okay with me – if it was good enough for McHale ;)

by Jack Jemsek on Nov 10, 2010 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Cs need backup for Rondo

Delonte is veteran, but you can teach Bradley new tricks. Just do it.

by ugly_joe on Nov 9, 2010 2:07 PM EST reply actions  

when he gets healthy, down to the claws and see what he can do at the point and at the 2.he is intriguing. we had to wait for semih; might as well wait for bradley.

by nazzbo on Nov 9, 2010 4:43 PM EST reply actions  

We will never know

Let’s face it – Doc doesn’t like to play young players, and he is not good at all at developing young players (his worst trait as a coach). He will only play a rookie if he has no choice – due to either a complete lack of depth or injuries. Look how long it took him to play guys like Al Jefferson and Perk. Even Rondo, on that terrible team in 2007, wasn’t really given the bulk of the playing time until the end of the season. Guys like Delonte West and Ryan Gomes stayed glued on the bench until injuries forced Doc’s hand and suddenly they both contributed right away. Now I don’t know if Bradley can help or not – I do know that we won’t find out anytime soon.

by bigperm33 on Nov 9, 2010 5:46 PM EST reply actions  

Nice article Kev

Avery is a really nice kid. He’s young. His time will come.

by Jimmy Toscano on Nov 9, 2010 6:50 PM EST reply actions  

Welcome Aboard

Hey Kevin…great article on AB.

Good insight and interesting credible comments from the previous coaches.

Looking forward to more great articles.

by BigT1942 on Nov 9, 2010 7:24 PM EST reply actions  

Great stuff, Kevin

Loved that you spoke to those coaches. Welcome aboard.

by Greg Payne on Nov 9, 2010 10:40 PM EST reply actions  

Impressive piece of journalism

pulling off those interviews puts you in contention for Pulitzer Prize for blogging Kevin – Celticblog is in for a treat with one of CSL’s finest ;)

by Jack Jemsek on Nov 10, 2010 8:45 AM EST reply actions  

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