Court Vision: Miami Heat Are Running Wild
[Editor's Note: Please welcome Tommy King - brother of Jay King - who will be writing about the NBA in general on a weekly basis]
Heating Up
We can snicker at the Heat no longer. "Like a Bosh" isn't so funny anymore. Snarky Heat jokes just don't have the same zing to them.
The Miami Heat have rattled off eight consecutive wins, all of them by at least 10 points, including the last four on the road. Wade has found a comfort-zone, LeBron is being LeBron, and Chris Bosh is starting to rebound. The Heat are winning and they're making it look easy--kind of like what we expected from them at the beginning of the season.
Two weeks ago, Erik Spoelstra was on the hot seat, there were rumors that LeBron wanted him gone, and everyone was making jokes about the return of Pat Riley to the bench. What changed so quickly?
The change has been quite simple, really. Miami has finally accepted its destiny as a fast breaking team, pushing the ball at every opportunity and relying on the incredibly finishing abilities of LeBron and Wade. According to Tom Haberstroh of the TrueHoop Heat Index, Miami has a transition rate (percentage of plays in transition) of 13.4 on the season. Over the eight-game win streak, that number has increased to 16.5. So far, the results have been very positive.
Really, it shouldn't have taken Spoelstra and the Heat this long to figure out that his team would be better served in the open court. LeBron and Wade are two of the best athletes in the world and Bosh is one of the faster, more agile power forwards in the league. Because of their relatively poor outside shooting, teams can load up the paint in the half court and force the Terrific Two to either pass, or take a contested shot in the lane. In the open court, all bets are off.
Earlier in the season, Spoelstra and some of the Heat player scoffed at questions wondering if the Heat would be a run-and-gun team. Spoelstra said that's not how they wanted to play. It seemed that Spoelstra equated run-and-gun with not playing any defense, a la D'Antoni ball. Maybe now he's finding out that you can play good defense and still get out in transition. In fact, good defense helps a team get out in transition. It's much easier to get a fast break started after an opponent's miss, so the more misses you can force, the better you can run.
Over the past eight games, this formula has worked for the Heat. Miami has played great defense all season, ranking second behind only the Boston Celtics in Hollinger's defensive efficiency. Before, however, the Heat would get a stop and LeBron would walk the ball up the court into a stagnant half court set. Now, the Heat are busting up the floor, attacking a retreating defense with LeBron and Wade barreling down the wings like an angry Bulldozer from the X-Men comics.
I've been indifferent to the Heat all season, thinking all along that they'd need at least a season to gel into championship form. Champions aren't just thrown together like a fantasy team, they need time to mold into a cohesive unit. The 2007 Celtics were the exception to the rule.
Seeing LeBron and Wade fly down the sideline, soaring past their recent opponents, has made me rethink my stance. The Miami Heat are still a flawed team (see: Joel Anthony and Mario Chalmers), but no team can come close to matching the athleticism of Bron, Wade, and Bosh. If Miami continues to channel its inner Showtime, the Heat may just run their way to a championship.
Highlight of the Week
Tommy's Trifecta
- Wake up, Kevin: Without watching Durant much this season, it's easy to assume he's playing at the MVP-level he approached last season. He's leading the league with 27.5 ppg while pulling down seven rebounds per game. Those are good looking numbers. In reality, Durantula is arguably having his worst season since his rookie year. Durant is still scoring a ton, but he's shooting poorly and standing in the way of an emerging Russell Westbrook. I'm not sure what the reason-- perhaps he's becoming complacent or has gotten a big head from his international success-- but Durant is driving less and settling for more outside shots. According to Hoopdata, Durant is taking a full shot less per game at the rim, and a full shot more from behind the arc. That may not seem like much, but its caused Durant's field goal percentage to fall from 47.6% last season to 42.3% this season. Durant is shooting more than five three-pointers per game, but making just 28% of them. Much was expected of the Thunder after last season's playoff run, but, so far, the Thunder have fallen well short of those expectations. Most of the blame has fallen on the team's youth and its lack of activity in the offseason. It's about time some of that blame fell on the golden boy himself, Kevin Durant.
- Blake Griffin Hype Train: I know, I know, Blake Griffin is great. He's putting up otherworldly numbers for a rookie and taking the league by storm. The NBA can't print posters fast enough to keep up with Griffin's astonishing dunks. I get all that. Yet still, I worry about Griffin. I think playing for the league's biggest loser (the Clippers) has taught Griffin some bad habits. Too many times, I see Griffin jogging back on defense, the last man back on defense. Heck, sometimes he's not even in the screen when the other team inevitably scores at the other end. Defensively, he's a train-wreck. He plays post defense like I did in fifth grade: stand in front of your man with your hands straight up and hope the guy misses. That defense worked fine for me in fifth grade when my opponents shot layups like a drunk Nate Robinson, but its definitely not going to work against Tim Duncan and Dirk Nowitzki. I'm not trying to hate on Griffin, I just think most people have gone overboard in praising him. He's great, but he's still a flawed rookie, making rookie mistakes.
- Tread Carefully, Mr. Stern- I'm extremely wary of the NBA now owning the New Orleans Hornets. I hope they find a buyer ASAP. I'm happy to rid the league of Shinn, but I see a potential firestorm for the league if they continue to own the Hornets for the rest of the season. Can't you envision a Game 7 between the Hornets and the Mavericks--reffed by Bennett Salvatore, Joey Crawford, and Tim Donaghy (I'm kidding, I'm kidding, relax)--in which Chris Paul goes to the line 14 times, Dirk Nowitzki fouls out, the Hornets win by two, and the conspiracy theorists come out in full force? I am in no way saying David Stern would try to affect the outcome of a playoff series to his advantage (okay, you're right, maybe he would), but the NBA's ownership of the Hornets could cause some sticky situations. Let's hope Lil Wayne and his Young Money cohorts purchase the franchise. Look out, the Birdman coming.
Pick & Roll: Who'd you rather?
Russell Westbrook, or Derrick Rose?
Point Guard, Tom King (my vision is unmatched in any league, in any country. I couldn't move any faster than Zydrunas Illgauskas in cement shoes, but boy could I pass.):
I'm going to go against the grain and surprise some of you by taking Russell Westbrook. It's not because he's a better passer than Rose (which he is), or that he's more unselfish and a purer point guard than Rose (which he is), but because he's an infinitely better defender than Rose. Westbrook is averaging 2.1 spg, compared to just one for Rose. Westbrook takes pride in his defense and always gives a full effort on defense. Rose, meanwhile, treats defense like dog poo on the sidewalk--he avoids it. Rose may be a slightly better scorer (though I'd argue he scores more because he doesn't play with Durant), but Westbrook's defensive superiority wins the day. Now, let me throw a no-look left-handed bounce pass through the trees to my power forward for the easy finish...
Power Forward, Jay King (yes, Jay was once a guard, until he became a blogger, sat at his computer all day, and ballooned 30 pounds. Jay will tell you he's a PF because of his deft post-moves, but don't be fooled.):
Firstly, I have to disagree with Tommy's contention that his vision is unmatched in any league, in any country. He was a decent passer, at best. His "no-look left-handed bounce pass" was probably intercepted for a turnover. Secondly, "ballooned 30 pounds" is a euphemism for "ballooned 45 pounds." And finally, on to the question at hand: who would I prefer, Russell Westbrook or Derrick Rose?
In a photo finish, it's Rose. You can discuss Westbrook's good defense until Scal wins a Slam Dunk Contest, but that doesn't make it true. Opposing PGs are averaging a 22.0 PER against Westbrook so far this season, which is the equivalent of every Westbrook opponent playing more efficiently than Rajon Rondo. If I had to guess, I'd say Westbrook is aided by the age-old perception problem: if a players succeeds offensively largely because of grit, he must play great defense.
Or not. But he's been great so far, I agree. Phenomenal, in fact, and deserving of MVP consideration at this point. I would even agree he's been more productive than Rose this season. That doesn't mean I'd rather have him, at least for the long run.
Rose is a more polished player. His handle is more advanced, and his moves more impressive. Where Westbrook moves mostly in straight lines, Rose possesses the rounded ability to dance around defenders, over them, or just blow by them. Westbrook's style is more conducive to drawing fouls, but, come playoff time, I want my point guard to have every trick in his repertoire. Think about Kobe Bryant: it's almost impossible to defend him, because he does so many things so well. It's much easier to defend a one-trick pony.
I'm not saying Westbrook is a one-trick pony (he fills up a box score like it's nobody's business), and I'm not comparing Derrick Rose to Kobe Bryant. Not by any means. But in such a neck-to-neck race, I believe, the more diversified game wins out. Game, set, match, Derrick Rose.
(Author's Note: What a horrible brother. It's my first story for CelticsBlog and Jay just dominated this debate like Will Ferrell in Old School. That was a perfect response, I have no rebuttal. Opposing PG's PER not withstanding, I still take Westbrook. I'm stubborn like that.)
Love 'Em Like Larry
- George Karl- Karl earned his 1,000th win Friday night when the Denver Nuggets beat the Toronto Raptors 123-116. Karl is doing a really great coaching job this season. He has the Nuggets at 14-8 despite the circus surrounding Carmelo Anthony and some early season injury problems. Karl has even (somewhat) tamed the always wild, always erratic J.R. Smith. Beating cancer was probably easier than getting through to Smith.
- Andrew Bogut- Bogut posted a 31 and 18 last Saturday against the Dwight Howard-less Magic, then followed that up with 24 points and 22 rebounds Friday against Houston. Bogut is arguably the best low-post player in the NBA, yet he somehow flies under the radar. Kendrick Perkins and Boston Celtics fans know all too well about Bogut, but your average NBA fan doesn't appreciate his standing as one of the game's top centers.
- Amare Stoudemire-We all knew the man could score. 30+ in seven straight games for Amare hardly surprises me. What does surprise me is that the Knicks have won all seven of those games and 11 of their last 12. Perhaps LeBron should have headed to New York to team up with Stoudemire instead of Chris Bosh. Can you imagine the near unstopability (add that word to your vocabulary) of a Lebron James-Amare Stoudemire pick-and-roll? Scary thought. Amare has taken a lot of heat for not being a winner and not rebounding, but I've got to give him some props for how he's leading the Knicks right now. Congratulations, Amare. Keep up the good work. Shalom.
Trade 'Em Like Tony (Allen, that is)
- Orlando Magic-The Magic have lost four straight games and looked listless in the process. On Thursday, the Magic lost by 14 points to the reeling Portland Trailblazers, despite 39 points, 15 rebounds, and 3 blocks from Howard. I've said since the beginning of the season that the Magic are not true title contenders, and their play this week has made me look like a smart man--and that's tough to do.
- Brook Lopez/Devin Harris-The Nets have lost six straight, but this is all about the stink bomb these guys put up in the 25-point blowout loss to the Celtics. Lopez and Harris are supposed to be team leaders, yet they led one of the worst team efforts in my recent memory. Lopez scored only five points, while Harris had 7 points and 4 turnovers. Their defensive effort was equally atrocious. I know your team stinks, but show some pride, fellas. You do get paid millions of dollars to play basketball.
- Team announcers-Until I got NBA league pass, I thought Tommy Heinsohn was the only horrible, homer announcer. Look, I love Tommy for all the same reasons you do, but, you have to admit, he's not a great announcer and only talks about Tommy Points, Semih Erden or the awful officiating. Heinsohn is not alone, however. Not to name names or anything (Dominique Wilkins), but the majority of team announcers are just as bad as Tommy. They say asinine things, root for their team unabashedly, and generally provide no analysis. It makes me miss Mark Jackson's "Mama there goes that man!" Heck, I'd prefer Bill Simmons, even though he sounds like he's perpetually stuck in puberty with that high, squeaky voice.
Next week's DVR Queue:
- Monday- Hornets @ Heat, 7:30 PM
- Tuesday- Magic @ Nuggets, 9:00 PM
- Wednesday- Celtics @ Knicks 7:00 PM, Cavs @ Heat, 7:30 PM
- Thursday- Spurs @ Nuggets, 10:30 PM
- Friday- Suns @ Mavericks, 9:30 PM
- Saturday- You're watching too much basketball, take a night off, have a social life.
- Sunday- Suns @ Thunder, 7:00 PM
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Great post, although
I am going to have to respectfully disagree with you about Tommy. He’s pretty much the best example you can find of a “homer” announcer, but I think he’s also a lot more then that. He provides great insight (for example, when he mentioned how Terrence Williams is a unique player because oh his great shot off the dribble), and you can tell he is respected and loved by seemingly everyone in the league, as opposed to Donny Marshal who in my opinion is honest, but seems to have a false sense of accomplishment. When I’m watching Celtics games I can trust what Tommy says, but on numerous occasions I have caught myself saying “What?” to one of Donny’s comments.
fluff sandwich - apart from the jazz
18 Monday Nov 29 7:30 PM Wizards W:105-94 10-8 Recap | Box
19 Wednesday Dec 01 7:30 PM Pistons W:97-72 11-8 Recap | Box
20 Thursday Dec 02 8:00 PM at Cavaliers W:90-118 12-8 Recap | Box
21 Saturday Dec 04 7:30 PM Hawks W:89-77 13-8 Recap | Box
22 Monday Dec 06 8:00 PM at Bucks W:78-88 14-8 Recap | Box
23 Wednesday Dec 08 9:00 PM at Jazz W:98-111 15-8 Recap | Box
24 Friday Dec 10 10:30 PM at Warriors W:84-106 16-8 Recap | Box
25 Saturday Dec 11 10:00 PM at Kings W:83-104 17-8 Recap | Box
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/schedules/2010/miami-heat/index.html#ixzz17x3aYfb6
Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk
True,
but you can only beat the teams on the schedule. I agree they haven’t proved it yet, but they look better than they did at the start of the season. We’ll see where they are by Xmas, when they play the Lakers.
December is tough for them
I was just looking..in the next 10 games they have:
New Orleans (14-9, but slipping)
NY twice (16-9, with a big win over Denver tonight where Melo went for 31)
Dallas (tied with Boston at 19-4)
LA
and then they have some tough away games in Houston (who should have Yao and Brooks back) and Phoenix.
If they go 8-2 or so over that span, it will be a tough sell to keep them out of the contender debate, but I’m all about making the tough sell.
Reporter: About a year ago I asked about the Celtics-Lakers thing and you said you'd really only seen it on TV. Now you've been through it, can you talk about playing the Boston Celtics for the NBA championship?
Kobe: It Sucks.
by Tom Bellinger on Dec 12, 2010 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
The 8 teams are a combined 36 games BELOW .500
They trailed after 3 quarters in the Utah game.
94-82 over Hornets.
Believe all the fluff you want, but its go time for the heat. Their offense isn’t stagnant like it has been all season before this win streak. They are consistently showing up on defense every night, they are playing that fast break offense, and also a lot of movement in the half court offense when they don’t have the break away.
Believing that their win streak is a fluff sandwich….lol laughable.
You must not have been watching the games during this win streak but rather just seeing who they beat on sportscenter. It’s not WHO they are beating, it is HOW they are beating them. Their offense has a lot of movement, they are flying around on defense, rebounding the ball and playing the way everyone knows they can play.
They are tied for 1st with your Celtics in the NBA defensively, 11th offensively, and 8th in rebounding. Look at those numbers before their win streak, big difference.
I mean, they were one basket away from tieing the game in the 1st Heat-Celtic matchup with under a minute to go, and almost the same situation in the 2nd game, and that was when the heat were stagnant on offense, weren’t rebounding, and soft on defense. In those Celtics games, when you saw them make their runs they were pushing it on offense, getting out on the break and playing defense, and you saw the results in those games even against the Celtics getting the game down to one possession late in the game. Now imagine that play happening all game like they are starting to do now. Not saying they will kill the Celtics every game from here on out but i am saying it will not be the same outcome as the two games already this year.
It’s a lot different now. They are all starting to gel on offense and this is without Starters Haslem and Miller. This is becoming a very scary team. Ranking 1st in defense, 8th in rebounding and 11th in offense? And it’s only getting better….
Don’t set yourself up for a rude awakening, the whole first month of their season was the real fluff-fluke-sandwich. if your not a believer yet, you’ll be by the end of christmas day.
by xMMAxTYSONxMMA on Dec 14, 2010 3:50 AM EST up reply actions
Exceptions to the bad announcer take are:
by nba is the worst on Dec 12, 2010 5:50 PM EST reply actions
He may be buried with the hapless Clippers,
but Ralph Lawler is truly fantastic as well.
-sw
Grouchy Oscar
by Steve Weinman on Dec 12, 2010 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
after you take a look at who the Celts have beaten
Dominating the Heat and Hawks on the road and their last second wins like in Philly, the Celts streak is the most impressive to me. Plus all the injuries to our bench.
+1
We’ll get healthy soon. Then I hope we go on a 33+ game win streak to break that record. Celts look hungrier every game. They’re starting to see that they can have the best NBA record, maybe
"In fact, good defense helps a team get out in transition."
This strategy applies to every team in the league. The coach has Wade and Lebron. Duh? Just shows how lousy a coach Spoelstra is.
I am so tired of the Miami Heat.
So the Heat lose to the Celtics, then they put together 4 blowout wins, including one against the magic, Press overreaction: They’re HEEEERREEEE!!!
So the Heat go 5-7 over their next 12, including back to back “shocker” losses to Memphis and Indiana. Press overreaction: They are a seriously flawed ordinary team!
So the heat go on a 8 game winning streak, including a solid big boy pants win over the Utah Jazz. Press Overreaction: They’re contenders! Like we knew they’d be!
This whole thing is just so tiresome. Dear NBA World: The Spurs are a completely rejuvenated team this season, and have maybe the best backcourt in basketball in Tony Parker and Manu Ginobli. The Mavs are winning on DEFENSE and Dirk Nowitzki should be in everyone’s top 3 for MVP voting, the defending champion Lakers have gone 4-5 over their last 9 (including a 1 point win over the Clippers and losses to the Griz and Pacers ala Miami) while the runner up Celtics are riding a 10 game win streak and doing so without their top 3 centers for parts of it. Stop leading every newsday with a Heat story.
There are some really, really good storylines in the NBA this season, but all anyone wants to talk about is whether or not the Heat are ascending to the throne ESPN had made for them yet. Call me crazy, but I think what the Heat are doing is completely unremarkable.
LeBron James has led regular season teams to the tops of effiency standing for years now. The Cavs have been one of the NBA’s top defensive teams for as long as Mike Brown coached LeBron, and LeBron has always been able to bully crappy teams, which is jacking up his average margin of victory, which catapults him to the top of oRtg and dRtg and win shares.
On top of that LeBron James and Chris Bosh were going to a new team, new coach, new dynamic, and new place all under the brightest spotlight that the NBA can muster in non-playoff months.
A secret I am willing to share with all of you: In the next month, the Heat will have a stretch where they lose 5 of 7 games or something. In the same time period they’ll win 7 straight. This season will be a rollercoaster because as they’re learning what works and what doesn’t, the rest of the league will be experimenting with THEM, figuring out what works and what doesn’t. Its going to be cyclical and they won’t win jack this season.
Reporter: About a year ago I asked about the Celtics-Lakers thing and you said you'd really only seen it on TV. Now you've been through it, can you talk about playing the Boston Celtics for the NBA championship?
Kobe: It Sucks.
But the Heat are really, really, really good!
I mean dey got LeBron JAMES and uuh D. WADE and Fred BOSH and uuh, um I don’t know the other players. That’s 3 SUPERSTARS, man. Now dey showin da leeeg wat dey got. Man, dey good.
Maybe.
I still like the Cs to beat the Heat. Barring injuries, they’re better right now and they should still be come playoff time. But it’s as ridiculous to write the Heat off as it is to crown them champs. We don’t know yet what they’ll grow into.
Well I don't think I'm writing them off at all.
I think the Heat are a good but not great team. I think you can compare them to Utah or Oklahoma City, or where Portland would’ve been if Brandon Roy’s knees hadn’t imploded.
They’re a threat to beat anyone in any given playoff series right now, and they’ll be better next season and better the season after that. They’re 1 or 2 smart MLE signings away from being hands down the best team in basketball.
But this season, with their roster as it is, they’re good, but not great..and I bet while they won’t go down in the first round, they won’t get to the finals either. Not a legitimate contender.
Reporter: About a year ago I asked about the Celtics-Lakers thing and you said you'd really only seen it on TV. Now you've been through it, can you talk about playing the Boston Celtics for the NBA championship?
Kobe: It Sucks.
by Tom Bellinger on Dec 12, 2010 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
Slight correction
A couple of smart MLE signing does NOT make them “the best team in basketball hands down”, not by a long shot. You still need a good system (i.e., coaching which they do NOT have) and players who will work hard and never give up. Even with a couple of added players (vet PG and legit big man), I still put the C’s, the Lakers and the Spurs WAY, WAY ahead of the Heat.
I'm not going to tell you you're wrong
This season, I think that’s correct. But, as Kobe, Duncan, and Ginobli continue to age over the next 2 seasons, the Heat players will only get better. A legit PG (lets say even a guy like Steve Blake, who would be perfect for them) and a legit defending/finishing big man (lets say someone of Emeka Okafor’s caliber) don’t automatically make them great. Talent-wise, they’d be the best in the league, but talent isn’t always the harbinger of success that it is thought to be.
But in 2 years when KG is gone and probably Duncan with him, and Kobe is in the real twilight of his career, the only team I see on Miami’s level right now is Chicago, and maybe OKC..but both of those are longshots.
Reporter: About a year ago I asked about the Celtics-Lakers thing and you said you'd really only seen it on TV. Now you've been through it, can you talk about playing the Boston Celtics for the NBA championship?
Kobe: It Sucks.
by Tom Bellinger on Dec 12, 2010 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
As good as Westbrook and Durant are, they’re not as a tandem even in the conversation talent-wise when compared to LeBron and Wade, and OKC’s third best player in 2 years (Harden or Ibaka…probably Ibaka) won’t be within spitting distance of Chris Bosh.
Chicago’s hi-lo of Noah and Rose alone is going to be absolutely lethal in a year or two, and with Boozer in the mix along with some pieces (Deng, Ronnie Brewer if he ever gets healthy) is a very well balanced and talented squad.
I’m forgetting Orlando here too, who can’t be discounted going forward just because of Dwight howard, although I don’t think Jameer Nelson or anyone else on that roster can ever be anything other than a complementary piece of a contender. Orlando needs to make a big move to get into the conversation.
Reporter: About a year ago I asked about the Celtics-Lakers thing and you said you'd really only seen it on TV. Now you've been through it, can you talk about playing the Boston Celtics for the NBA championship?
Kobe: It Sucks.
by Tom Bellinger on Dec 12, 2010 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
No worries, Orlando is not in the conversation
They have a flawed roster and SVG is over-rated IMO. Yes, they need to have a big roster shake-up, but so does Miami. I was thinking you meant Miami could sign a few pieces this season before the trade deadline.
I like it when the sports media-approved new big thing is a "running team."
Everything gets slowed down in the playoffs. At that point, the teams with the best half-court defenses and offenses (working it into the paint consistently) come out on top. Which means Miami won’t be faring well with their title shot.
Exactly
Miami is not that good of a team at all. They should have just acquired Bosh along with Wade. That would be a better tandem. Lebron and Wade play the same way, i wonder why no one sees this. In the playoffs when the game slows down, they will not gel. Theres a reason Portland didn’t draft Jordan many years ago, its cause his “offensive twin” Drexler was already there
by OsirusCeltics on Dec 12, 2010 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
Fast Break in the playoffs
Admittedly, things slow down a little in the playoffs, but that doesn’t at all mean fast break teams automatically suffer. The Celtics and Lakers of the 80s pushed the ball at a breakneck pace—even in the playoffs. The recent Suns teams were one stupid suspension away from a Finals berth with their run-and-gun style. Yes, the saying is mostly right that defense wins championships, but the Heat have the second best defense in the NBA, according to defensive efficiency. Just because we don’t like the Heat doens’t mean we can write them off.
ha, no problem
It should be said though that we’re hating on the Heat, not on new CB author Tom King. It is a good article, no question.
The thing that bothers me is that it seems like people aren’t happy with saying the Heat are “a good but not great” team. The Heat either have to be awesome or they have to be terrible, and no matter what every mainstream author is pretending like they called it back in August. It is literally making my brain hurt.
Reporter: About a year ago I asked about the Celtics-Lakers thing and you said you'd really only seen it on TV. Now you've been through it, can you talk about playing the Boston Celtics for the NBA championship?
Kobe: It Sucks.
by Tom Bellinger on Dec 12, 2010 7:33 PM EST up reply actions
Absofrockinlootley IP
the heat stuff has to stop
and I am quite digging the spurs these days, tho they get no love
by Warrior Spirit on Dec 12, 2010 8:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
yeah, I keep forgeting about the spurs
looks like they’re finally getting some chemistry with Richard Jefferson. I thought Duncan was toast from all the injuries he had last year but it looks like he got better, wonder if he can stay healthy till the playoffs?
Hope so
Dont get me wrong, it wont be as satisfying to me if we dont rip the title away from the champs. But I would love to see the lakes truly challenged out west. And there would be no better 2nd choice to face than the spurs for a chip.
Quite happy for their resurgence. Totally thought both the Spurs and Mavs were done early last year. Not sure yet how for real the Mavs are, but they look more complete than they possibly ever have.
Bummer though that the blazers are going thru this again, always been a big fan of Roy, too bad, the thunder too, at this point dont look like the legitimate threats we thought they were becoming.
As I said above, i dont waste much time caring about the west. But while I want it to be the lakes that we see, I want them to see a war or 2 of their own on the way to the finals.
by Warrior Spirit on Dec 12, 2010 9:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
same here
I do want to see the Lakers challenged before a “destined” rematch in the finals with us. I always picture them as that big boss at the end of the movie the hero fights after fighting everyone else, the hero is beat up but the big boss is fresh and stronger. The hero wins out in the end but not before dyin’ and coming back first. I’m hoping our road to the finals won’t be that bad, but either way, it’s going to be a challenge
yo tommy
whatsup dude its paul from skidmore.. crazy that you are writing for celtics blog… wow
Paul
Haha, what’s going on, Paul? Good to hear from you. Hope you’re still dominating Skidmore pickup basketball. Are you graduating this year?
yeah man its kinda nuts actually. pickup basketball has been good, me and my friends have taken down a few IM championships in the process. how are u doing? what are you up to these days?
by PPisthetruth34 on Dec 13, 2010 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
Underselling Tommy
I think he (and Mike) have lost a step or two, but like the Cs players they know how to make up for it.
Also FYI, Dwight Howard didn’t play in that Bucks game.
+1 Berkcelt......
Mike is smooth and Tommy is a treasure trove of history, knowledge, and Celtic Pride….
Is it Soup Yet?
Agreed, they haven't lost a step at all
Mike is as good as ever and Tommy is as mediocre as ever, at least an an announcer. I still love Tommy though.
I must sound like a broken record, but
another great acquisition by CEO Clark. Welcome aboard, TK.
Great start – looking forward to more. Also, I owe you an iced tea.
-sw
Grouchy Oscar
Too bad they don’t beat good teams. Are you a closet Heat fan, Tommy?
That fast break is going to fall off the tracks when their bigs can’t rebound against us.
Heat Hater
I hate the Heat, but that’s not going to stop me from logically discussing their status as contedners. Anyone who writes off both LeBron and Wade is a crazy fool.
+1
They are no where near a contender. Wade and Lebron can’t play together in a slow down half-court setting. Only casual NBA fans seem blinded. Its like we go through this every year. Get hyped on some running flashy fast break team, then realize they can’t win against a big defensive half-court team. The Suns of ‘05-’08 were way better than this current Heat team and they STILL couldn’t beat the Spurs, Lakers or Mavs
Suns Vs. Heat
The D’Antoni Suns couldn’t defend. The Heat have the second best defense. Not to mention the fact that they have the two of the four best payers on the planet.
Similarities
-They can’t score effectively in the half-court (which is basically what the playoffs/Finals are)
-They have two very talented finishers Suns (Marion, Stoudamire) Heat (Wade, Lebron)
-Beat up on bad teams, or win when they make almost of their jumpshots
-Lack of size
I don’t think that type of style is successful. It looks pretty, but it’s not the formula to win
by OsirusCeltics on Dec 13, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
Dallas...
is probably playing the best ball out there right now. Dallas, Boston, San Antonio. Lakers are not playing very well right now at all.
The C’s have a very strong team this year. The backups need to improve. Erden, Baby and Daniels all had a fantastic game against the Bobcats. Gotta keep that up. Stay aggressive.
True about the Lakers
And if Bynum doesn’t return at something like full power, I can’t see them getting out of the West. Gasol is playing 40-45 minutes out of position, against bigger players, almost every game now. He’s going to break down.

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