Magic Roster Overhaul

Otis Smith should have avoided the hotel bar.

Gah. What an awful collection of volume shooters.

i mean they did get smaller ,so if howard ever gets in foul trouble there completely screwed , they still have bass though, & umm idk just a whole bunch of scores on that team , i guess they needed more of a punch offensivly & they sure got it , j-rich,jameer,redick,arenas,with hedo handling the ball si guna be tough to defend ,but i like the fact they got much smaller

Jameer Nelson – we win
Gilbert Arenas – push (though I like Ray for our team)
Jason Richardson – we win
Hedo Turkoglu – we win
Dwight Howard – they win

Bench – we win.

Thanks for playing, Otis.

point blank we gotta pound dem inside

I’ll give ‘em that. They’ve got options all over.

but i havent seen them mention any deals about Richardson/Turk. I know ESPN and Yahoo confirmed it, not to mention Steve Nash’s twitter, but why isnt it on NBA.com under the “Breaking News” bar? Does the NBA just not consider it as important?

I’ve been watching a bunch of Phoenix games and I really love Richardson. He has really been shooting the lights out. But when Nash went out with his groin injury, Richardson started shooting like Erden from the arc. What does that mean for playing in Orlando? Does he benefit from playing in a 3PT system or will he revert to mediocrity without Nash’s assists?

This team wasn’t going to get past Boston or Miami as long as they had to rely on Vince Carter. Also, I’m not a huge fan of Jameer Nelson and think Gil might actually be better in crunch time.
Hedo comes back to run the offense and he is a MUCH better fit alongside Jameer and Arenas than he was with either Phoenix or Toronto. Vince has the bigger name but I don’t think he’s any better than Richardson, and J-Rich at least has an inkling of killer instinct (not a lot bure more than Wince.)

The move that would REALLY make the Magic interesting if is they can snag Aundray Blatche in the Arenas deal. I’d definitely be intrigued by a Howard/Blatche/Hedo/Richardson/Arenas lineup.

Wow.
1st, when did they move Rashard back to sf? Not that it matters now.

I am not so sure I dig these moves. To hell with Vince, but Pietrus and Gortat were key role players for them. All to get Hedo back and Richardson? Hedo is not really a pf, would it make more sense to start him at sf, and Bass at pf, with Richardson as a Manu/Jet styled 6th man?

Thought Lewis had 4 years left, guess this trade make some sense for both teams, Lewis could handle the pressure of being guarded by a healthy KG in the playoffs, now he wont have to. Makes sense for the Wizards to break ties with Arenas, and take a flyer on a guy in a new situation with less pressure.
But again, I just dont know if the Magic have improved their team. They have lost their inside presence off the bench, which would be more than helpful against the heat, lakers or our guys. And lost their best man to man/perimeter defender in Pietrus. Have gotten smaller losing both Lewis and Gortat. And will now more than ever rely on the 3 ball.

Does this mean the Suns arr going to start focusing on d and half court sets since they finally have a center?

Three deals that have been awful since the day they were inked involved in a single trade.

I think this gives Magic a play maker at SF in Turk and a scorer at SG in Richardson. The question is can they get anything out of Arenas? They have a glut of guards are thin at C now. I wonder if there is a second trade on the way, or if they plan to play Turk at PF.

so it becomes-

pg- nelson and duhon vs nate and rondo vs arroyo and chalmers… both teams have already shown they cant keep up with nate and rondo.
1 win for boston. 0 miami and orlando

sg- gil and reddick vs ray and west vs wade and ? jones? .. wade is the best player but he has struggled vs bostons D more than vs any other team.
1 win for boston. 1 miami. 0 orlando

sf- richardson and richardson vs pierce and daniels vs lebron and miller. i like the combo for boston but lebron and miller is the best combo at sf in the league.
 but lets be honest 2 wins miami. 1 boston. 0 wins orlando.

pf- hedo and bass vs kg, davis, JO vs bosh….?.. howard?.. hedo is a sf. bosh doesnt like kg’s style and hides.
boston 2 wins miami 2 orlando 0

C- howard vs perk/shaq/semih vs anthony big z.. howard will get his points BUT them trading gortat puts a lot of pressure on howard to stay on the court. boston has the bodys to throw at him and make him tired. miamis centers are a joke. howard will be fine vs them..
1/2 orlando. 2 1/2 boston. 2 miami.

so orlando lost its depth for bigs. i wont listen to malik allen and ryan anderson talk. they cant produse like lewis and gortat did for orlando. unless the magis move richardson or nelson this trade didnt do anything to improve the team

Gilbert / Duhon
Richardson / JJ
Turk / QRich
Anderson / Bass
Dwight / ?

If they move Nelson for a big that could work, with Turk running the offense in the half court.

we will completely obliterate them on the boards. Dwight will be alone facing a perk/shaq/J.O./Erden combination. No contest.

Orlando will at least be interesting to see how this plays out. There’s certainly the potential of them being better.

Phoenix… Seems like their owner is going the save bucks route… again. Too bad Danny can’t steal from them yet again.

Washington: They get rid of a head case, and they don’t much care about winning now anyway. It’d be better for them to get the best lottery pick they can this year.

Grunfeld dumps Arenas who I thought was untradeable. Lewis is a decent shooter and 2nd option. Magic now seems like a mess of shooters who won’t play much D. Hedo is probably happy he’s back though. Phx? I guess they get some height and shooting.

They just improved drastically at each position they traded away.

SG: Richardson > VC
SF: Turk > Lewis
6th Man: Agent 0 > Pietrus

Some may argue that Turk is past his prime and on the decline, but I beg to differ. Turk played well in Orlando’s system and I believe he will be just as dynamic with this time around.

The magic do have a lack of depth at the 4/5 spot, but they have been lacking all year. This trade just improved their lineup significantly.

If he blooms there, and that team gels, they will be tough on O. Arenas is amazing at times. Achilles is D. So we win. But the trade made it tougher for us I think. Depends on how Agent 0 responds. If he’s off the bench it may not like it. Gundy should start him for sure. He was to DC what Pierce is to us, so the fans there don’t like the deal.

and they still won’t have these trades. They will miss the role players they traded away though.

i’m worried that orlando now has there PG in gil arenas and now moves nelson and the rights to orton (and some picks depending on who they target) for a AI, gerald wallace, carl landry, marvin williams, corey maggette. anyone of those players makes orlando alot more scary.

DHoward and AI would be a real tough matchup and also gets phily a st joes alumn, cap room and a young big to put with turner, meeks, holliday, young, spieghts and company.

landry is leaving sac-town any ways, so getting orton and nelson for landry and udrih would free money and give evans a young big to build with cousins. also helps orton and cousins adjust to the nba together.

gerald wallace for nelson and orton also scares me because it gets charlotte out of his contract it shows howard that they are adjusting to the league (miami) and gives a good deffender on the wing vs lebron, pierce. gives the cats a PG that larry brown can torment. and a big to develope.

maggette would be a salary dump for the bucks frees up 5 mil. if they dont make the playoffs they would think about this. get a back up center to develope. and maybe flip nelson for a draft pick. makes orlando a faster team and adds size vs lebrom and pp.

even a reggie evans and j. wright would be a decent trade, it would add size and rebounding..

my point is i dont think they are done trading. so even tho i’m not worried about the roster they have now. they have set them self up for another big move later. wich could be a leveling out of talent between boston, orlando and miami.. if NOH fall apart and are willing to listen to offers for paul, nelson combined with arena, orton is enough money to make it work. or melo… and if paul ends up in orlando. they would have enough to get by miami and give boston problems

had a great defense when Turkoglu was on the team last time. They don’t need great individual defenders to have a good defense. Lewis, Carter, and Nelson aren’t great, but their defense is top 5 anyway.

I think the big question is this: Is Turkoglu as washed up as he’s seemed the past 1-plus seasons, or does he have something left? If he is 80% of what he was in the ‘09 playoffs, instead of the 50% he’s been since, I say Magic are better.

Also: Richardson at this point is probably better than Carter, but he’s more limited, more of a shooter and less of a creator. Does that matter? Maybe not, if Turkoglu and Arenas can create enough to get space for him to shoot.

If Orlando GM Otis Smith is wondering why he’s looking for a new job in a year or two this will be the reason. Horrible desperation trade.