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Seeing the Potential in Luke Harangody

Luke Harangody is quickly becoming this year's version of the human victory cigar. In other words, if you see him on the floor, chances are good that a victory is well in hand for the Celtics. Such is life for a rookie second-round draft pick who many doubted would even make it onto the active roster this year.

If you know anything about Harangody, however, proving the doubters wrong is nothing new. To him, it's certifiably old news. I've learned this lesson after speaking with Harangody, as well as a couple of beat reporters who covered him in college, in an attempt to gain some insights about the rookie's game and what we can fairly expect from him going forward.

What's well known - at least to anyone who follows the team or the sport in general - is that Harangody (listed at under 6'7" without sneakers) is undersized as an NBA power forward. He is also considered to lack the lack the requisite foot speed and athleticism to cover the majority of small forwards in the league. These questions, despite Harangody's unquestionably deep offensive resume, are what allowed him to fall all the way to the Celtics with the 52nd overall pick in the 2010 NBA draft.

Harangody acknowledges that his defense has been considered an issue. If you caught his brief appearance at the end of Boston's Tuesday night victory over Cleveland - during which Harangody was caught way out of position and was subsequently toasted to the basket by J.J. Hickson - you saw a neatly packaged Exhibit A of that issue.

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Such was the case in college as well, according to Tom Noie, who covered the Fighting Irish for the South Bend Tribune during Harangody's four seasons at Notre Dame.

"Luke was never a guy who was going to be a lockdown defender and other teams knew they could exploit the middle when Harangody was in the game because he was such an offensive-minded guy."

Noie added, "I just can't see him being a small forward because of his lack of foot speed. He's gotten better but at that level in the NBA he's still, for lack of a better word, slow."

Regardless, Harangody is optimistic that he'll progress on defense to the point of earning the trust of Doc Rivers where he'll eventually be allowed to play in non-garbage time.

"I have a lot to learn on the defensive end," he said. "I think that's where I have to improve in order to get on the floor. I think Doc's seen changes in that, in me being in the right place at the right time. I've come a long way since training camp. It's been good for me."

To his credit, Harangody has clearly paid enough attention to see the bigger picture as well as a reasonable path to eventually earn some playing time.

"To get on the court in the NBA," he said, "I've got to do little things first. We already have enough scorers on this team obviously so for me to come in and play defense and rebound, that's one way for me to get on the court."

Even so, it's Harangody's offensive gifts that provide the most compelling argument regarding his future value to the team. It simply becomes a question of how his wide range of scoring abilities can best be used by the Celtics.

In summer camp, he showed the ability and willingness to run the floor and fill the lane in transition, which obviously fits in nicely within the Boston system (heads up to Jermaine O'Neal). That said, at least based on what he accomplished in college, Harangody is also a viable threat as a consistent shooter from both long and mid-range and is craftily productive around the basket.

Some have pointed to Harangody's low release point on his jumper as an area of concern at the professional level. Harangody fairly bristled at the suggestion but Noie added some insight as to why the low release point probably wouldn't be an issue.

"The one thing about Luke Harangody that I've always seen is that he adapts," Noie said. "Whenever he was going against a bigger guy, maybe someone who was quicker, he adapted and figured out how to get his shot off even quicker. It's a low shot but it's also a quick shot. He doesn't need much time from when he gets the ball to get it up on the rim and usually it was going in."

In Harangody's favor, he's received some much needed support thus far from the veterans on the team.

"One of the coolest things about being on this team is that you just learn so much. Everyday, I learn so much from Kevin. He takes me aside and for a player like that to do that, I'm really thankful."

Regarding what Garnett has taught him specifically, Harangody said, "Just everything about the game. How he approaches it, his intensity, how he takes care of his body. I try to approach the game every day in a similar way."

Brian Hamilton, who covered Notre Dame basketball for the Chicago Tribune, believes that Harangody will eventually become a valuable role player in the league, provided he is given the appropriate opportunity.

"I don't see why Luke can't be a nice piece," Hamilton said. "On the right team, in the right circumstance, surrounded by the right guys, he can fill several need areas. Hustle, rebounds, pick-and-pop shots, points off the offensive glass. It's not cliché to say the guy's motor runs pretty high. I don't think he's going to take possessions off like some other guys in the NBA might do, so does he get you four to six points a game simply by playing harder than other people? Very possibly."

Noie added, "If that's what a team needs, for him to get in there and scrap and get the ball, get a couple rebounds, get a couple put-backs, get to the line maybe four or five times in a quarter quickly, there's real value in that."

Both Hamilton and Noie look back at Harangody's early days as an incoming freshman and recognize just how far he's come as a player since then.

Noie said, "I still remember the first time Luke went and played two-on-two in a summer game as a freshman. He was going against Rob Kurz (a 6'9" power forward who graduated from Notre Dame in 2008 and spent the 2008-09 season with the Golden State Warriors) and got eaten alive.

"Harangody got back to his dorm room and basically wanted to transfer. He called his dad and said, ‘I just got my rear end handed to me in a two-on-two game. I don't think I'm ever going to play here. Maybe I should go somewhere else, maybe go to a Big Ten school'. His dad told him to stick it out, keep working. Keep learning what guys like Rob Kurz and the older guys are trying to teach you, make that a part of your game and understand that the game is totally different from high school. Harangody kept battling and kept working and all of a sudden you look up and only one guy has scored more points in the history of Notre Dame basketball than Luke Harangody and I don't think anybody saw this coming."

Hamilton added, "He had offers from a few other major conference programs but it wasn't like he was a top 100 national recruit. People were doubting him then. People were still doubting him this past summer in terms of whether he could make an NBA roster or even get drafted. This kid, for as good a player as he is, and for being one of the Big East's all-time leading scorers, he's still been able to carry this chip on his shoulder. I think that's just kind of who he is and how he operates."

There, Hamilton touches upon something that Harangody acknowledges as his primary source of inspiration.

"That's always in the back of my head whenever I'm getting a workout in," Harangody said. "You have to have motivation in how you approach the game and everyday I'm thinking about somebody who passed up on me and didn't see the potential in me."

It also meant quite a bit to Harangody to be drafted by the Celtics, a team who has produced a number of successful second-round draft picks in recent years in Ryan Gomes, Leon Powe and Glen Davis.

"I think some teams may not put as much trust into their second draft round picks," Harangody said, "but I knew the Celtics did because of the guys you just mentioned. It gave me confidence that the Celtics believed down the road that I could be a project for them."

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Good luck to Harangody.

When people constantly underestimate you as you try to progress up the ladder, at some point they’re likely to be correct. Hopefully, it’s not now for Harangody.

by no kidding on Dec 2, 2010 8:46 AM EST reply actions  

Kevin...

That is an interesting, quite candid and not so flattering piece on Luke -(Not Skywalker) Harangody.

“Slow.” ouch.

But you showed his journey to the top of ND offensive basketball.

At this point, I haven’t seen anything to impress except somewhat of a knack for rebounding.

But as you point out, Leon Powe, Glen Davis and Ryan Gomes are not only second round picks – they are all undersized power forwards (Gomes is a true tweener actually, IHO) that made some success in the league.

So Luke has gone to a good franchise that understands what one needs to do to be successful at this level.

Interesting to read about the possibility of adjusting his shot as each situation has required. True enough and he will to do that here as well. Quick release and more important – timing – will be crucial.

Regarding defense- yes he will have to play passable defense to play on this team. His hope is that he adds enough at the other end to offset any deficiencies.

I never thought 6’ 7" DeJuan Blair would be the starting center on a team that is 15-3. In fact I never thought he could more than a role player…even as good as he is at what he does. Credit his coach and team for helping him fit in, but give him credit as well.

While Luke and DuJuan are two totally different players and Blair was more highly regarding generally, I am using that as an example to show that potential is a funny thing.

Harangody has a few roads to climb (mixed metaphor alert!) before he will have NBA success. I’m skeptical at this point, but certainly not down on him. Of course we are all hoping he makes the adjustments needed to offer something consistently.

A sobering assessment.

by Tom Halzack on Dec 2, 2010 9:06 AM EST reply actions  

TT

Hey, thanks for the in-depth response. I was trying to present the mixed bag that LH brings to the table, which is exactly what I’d expect out of an under-sized big selected deep in the second round. Harangody has never been coached on defense like he’s being coached now so I’m not at all surprised at the learning curve we’re seeing. Beyond that, under-sized or not, I think he has an ability to score from a number of spots and has a nose for the ball, which can’t really be taught. I actually like his promise as a viable role player down the road.

by Kevin Henkin on Dec 2, 2010 9:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Unfortunately for Harangody he is playing for Doc Rivers and not for Gregg Popovich.
While I do have respect for Doc as a coach, one think he lacks is a little bit of confident in his rookies.
I sometimes feel bad for our rookies knowing they could have done so much better playing for a different(maybe less successful) team.

by APC on Dec 2, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe Doc realizes there’s little margin for error these days considering the big 3 have at most 2 years left together? If the veterans have to cover over rookie mistakes often enough, then it could lead to significant injuries.

by vgarcia890 on Dec 2, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

What's Pops' alternative, though?

Luke’s trying to squeeze in some minutes behind KG and BBD at the PF, and Pierce and Quis if they wanted to try him at the 3. That’s two Hall of Famers and two well-established NBA veterans (both of whom are having pretty solid seasons).

San Antonio’s only other real options at the 5 are what? McDyess? Matt Bonner? Splitter (another rookie)?

No discredit meant to Blair, but if Pops has a couple more established 6’10" guys on the bench, he well might not be getting the opportunities he’s getting.

by theBird on Dec 2, 2010 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

actually, Popovich and Rivers are very similar in this respect

if you look at the rosters of their teams ordered by minutes played and then look at the ‘age’ column you see that both give the lions’ share of minutes to their vets. And that makes perfect sense, given that both teams are pushing for home court in title runs.

Blair is a huge outlier at just 21 – but he’s not a rookie. No other Spur under the age 26 has any significant minutes except for George Hill (24). The other youngsters, Anderson, Temple, Gee and Green have barely sniffed the court.

On the Celtics, Rondo, Davis and Semih, ages 24-25-24 all are getting meaningful time and that’s about it for youngsters. ’Gody and Bradley have barely sniffed the court. But both Rondo and Davis are obviously getting HUGE amounts of playing time.

Both Popovich and Rivers prefer to play their vets but will play youth out of necessity and both fully acknowledge talent when it emerges. That’s why Blair got almost 1500 minutes last year as a 20 year old rookie and is starting this year. That’s why Rondo got 1831 minutes as a 20 year old rookie and has been the starter ever since.

by mmmmm on Dec 2, 2010 5:53 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Fair enough Kev...

and a second direction this can go down is just how much of an impediment is slowness to being a good defender? Can better anticipation make up for it?

Luke will be a good candidate for such questions.

If he gives up two but makes three at the other end, he’s plus one, right?

Of course that only works short term. To stay on the floor, like everyone else, he will have to learn to positively fit the system. Another good case of player development to watch.

by Tom Halzack on Dec 2, 2010 9:32 AM EST reply actions  

Player or Not?

I guess I feel like there are a few areas that I see to comment about here.

Harangody is a basketball player. He is smart and gives undeniable effort both during the game an in practice. He has proven that he can get rebounds against a taller player, He has proven he can get his shot off, He will continue to make mistakes but he has the ability to learn and advance his game beyond his shortcomings.

 He has the respect of the veteran players and the coaching staff. If Kevin Garnett, Shaq and other veterans are willing to embrace this guy and help him then obviously they see something at practice and in other areas we are not privy to. I dont think Doc or Danny would go along with paying this guy a guaranteed salary and giving him a roster slot unless they felt he has the ability to grow and contribute.

Luke has the ability to get better and figure things out. I think he is one of those guys like Davis, Blair, Gomes, Powe and other that are picked in the second round but will defy the labels assigned to them. I think this has a lot to do with their attitude. approach and work ethic. For lack of any better words they just go out and play. They accept their roles get the job done or figure out how to do it better.

Thanx for the article, it is great to follow a guy like this and watch him grow.

"First fix their hearts"-Eizo Shimabuku

by billysan on Dec 2, 2010 9:59 AM EST reply actions  

Concur completely.

One other differential that helps a ‘tweener’ like Harangody is that from all accounts, he is extremely smart and attentive.

Danny has been quick to jettison guys that he and Doc don’t see a future with (see Giddens, Walker, Pruitt, etc.) and has held tightly to guys he believes have potential. He hung on to Semih’s rights. He kept BBD around.

The Celtic brain trust seems to be pretty smaht deeze days … if ’Gody makes it past December without being cut or traded, I suspect that means they see what the want in him.

by mmmmm on Dec 2, 2010 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

My Favorite Domer

Nice Job Kevin – his rise from nobody to somebody within college hoops is inspiring – and I’m glad you agree he’s got something to offer this team down the road.

by Jack Jemsek on Dec 2, 2010 10:11 AM EST reply actions  

I also think he has something to offer

and quickness and speed can be compensated by court awareness and BBIQ. I do not mean to compare Luke to Larry Bird, except to say that Larry was not particularly fast either, but his ability to foresee developing plays always seemed to put him in the right position…and I see some of that in Luke. I hope he can develope his defense enough to earn time and put his “court sense” to work.

Good article. Loved the “human victory cigar” symbolism!

by thirstyboots18 on Dec 2, 2010 11:59 AM EST reply actions  

luke is no havlicek, but is more a don nelson. not as good but he has the potential as did gomes. so far, of all the young players coming in to play the c’s this year, the kid who impressed me the most was bayless the toronto pickup. he has an nba body and can play. keep an eye on him.

by nazzbo on Dec 2, 2010 12:07 PM EST reply actions  

I like Luke and see him getting better with time.

You can see he really wants it and he can definately shoot.

by mmbaby on Dec 2, 2010 12:24 PM EST reply actions  

Nice article Kev

Good research. I think Luke has a place on this team and in this league in time. Maybe not so much now, but there is definitely a future for him. He has a great attitude and work ethic.

by Jimmy Toscano on Dec 2, 2010 12:34 PM EST reply actions  

gody

Larry Bird couldnt run or jump either, he managed a few decent games.

by angloamer on Dec 2, 2010 10:19 PM EST reply actions  

Really?

A Larry Bird comparison… come on now.

"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach

by Sizzlack on Dec 3, 2010 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Think of Larry not as a comparison, but merely a validation

that there is more to being a basketball player than speed, height and leaping ability.

by mmmmm on Dec 3, 2010 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

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