Capital Gains
by Jeff Clark on Feb 1, 2010 9:44 PM EST
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PrintThe Celtics picked themselves up and took care of business against the Wizards.
- Rondo, please stop throwing the lob to KG until he starts jumping higher. Thanks.
- Another solid game from Tony Allen. Time to start saying. This has been a good season for Tony.
- Solid game for Sheed too. 14 points (6-6 from the line)
- Nice to see Ray get back on track with 17.
- 17 points, 12 dimes for Rondo. Ho hum. (Love that he's become so much more consistent)
- Garnett missed one shot tonight. One. The shots were just falling.
- C's won the rebounding battle tonight, but I still feel like the shot goes up and too many of them are standing around watching the ball with their hands by their sides. Box out! Put your butt on somebody. (sorry, just channeling my varsity coach there)
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Trade Pierce and Perk
Obviously they are the 4th quarter problem :-p
Nice win for the C's.
Nice win for the C’s.
Even though it was just against the Wizards, the way things have been going lately we will take it.
TA deserves the game ball again tonight (and possibly a starting job?).
Boy is his quickness and athletisim on the court a sight for sore eyes.
Garnett looked very good also as he looked fluid and his body language looked smooth and positive. (and I was the one who suggested before the game the C’s sit him…shows you how much I know)
Sheed was solid off the bench, he did a great job getting in the low post for his offense.
The C’s need to keep getting him the ball inside as he is our best low post scorer and we lack inside low post scoring big time.
Rondo was solid also.
Baby and House lack of contributions still worry me though.
I hope Pierce is ok.
One small baby step forward but at least it was a win.
START TONY ALLEN
bring Ray of the bench.
Never thought I would ever type those words……
I know you haven't finished the writeup as I post this, but
you should probably note how well KG played first off. That IS the key barometer for this season, after all.
Nice win but...
Should have kept Lester, hes +12 in the lakers game! Playing amazing on memphis right now.
somewhat agree
while they shouldn’t have gotten rid of him.. it is only one game
Go Lester!! Go Grizz!!
11 pts in 7 minutes. Maybe the Celtics ought to have found a better way to free up a roster spot, instead of the most cost effective way.
While Ray "future HallofFame" Allen
did 7 points in 35 agonizing minutes against the same Faker team…go figure.
"No I’m not KG. Not at all, but I’m Big Baby Glen Davis from LSU, Baton Rouge, Louisiana. I’m not the Big Ticket. I’m the Ticket Stub. Don’t count the Ticket Stub out. You might need the ticket to get in the game, but you leave with the ticket stub, because you’ll never forget this game."
Why don't we get players like that?
I liked Lester and did not want to see him go.
He was a athletic scorer and considering the way Ray and House have been struggling this year shooting and scoring inconsistently, Lester would of been real nice to have on the floor right now.
If of course Doc was to play him…which I doubt he would unfortunately given his track record playing the young kids on the roster.
Thing is
Lester’s not a PG. I mean….he’s listed as “G” as opposed to “PG”. We wanted a backup PG, no?
Though he was a
shooting guard in college, he C’s were trying to develop him into a point guard.
But he could of been both a point guard, shooting guard (aka combo guard) for us.
Yup.
I liked Lester too. We could use some one like him.
ugh...
i knew this would happen. Really, this time I knew it. Lester is hungry, and in his brief time with the C’s showed more promise than either Giddens or Walker have. Danny couldn’t have cut one of the redundant wings who don’t play on this team instead of the only true backup PG prospect?
Hope Lester has a great career – something tells me he will.
by milt palacio's shot on Feb 2, 2010 5:29 AM EST up reply actions
Yes start TA
and the bench isn’t so weak anymore.
Unfortunately, They Are Short-Term Capital Gains
Nice games by Rasheed Wallace and Tony Allen, plus Rondo’s usual exciting but nerve wracking play.
And they paid tax for the gains ... Pierce's ankle
by getthat18now on Feb 1, 2010 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
Ouch...
…yeah that looked painful.
Nice to see KG getting some more minutes…can’t wait for Marquis to come back; his injury is starting to remind me of Glen Davis’
This is a good win IF
We can win our next four going into the break and regain some respectability. Otherwise it’s no better than the Clipper win last week.
Thank You Celtics
Way to difficult, but good to get a win any way. Big question now is how badly did Pierce hurt his foot, and if he will be out how long. Garnett’s offense looked solid tonight. In general our bench is still not good, but better tonight than the past three games. I seriously think starting Tony and having Ray come off the bench might be a good idea. Doc, however, will never do that. Gotta give Sheed a pat on the back tonight, as he played in the post where he belongs most of the time. TA, however, definitely player of the game.
I hope they rest Pierce' ankle
Let Tony play. The last thing we need is a nagging ankle injury. Trying to play through those is futile. They don’t get better without rest.
Calm down on the Lester Hudson talk
It’s one game!
i'm calm vinnie
but for the record it’s his second decent game down there, which is 2 more than giddens or walker have, combined…
by milt palacio's shot on Feb 2, 2010 5:31 AM EST up reply actions
Agree
He has a few reasonable games and all the sudden he’s a starter on a winning team? If TA stays healthy for the rest of his career he may be a good role player off the bench for any team but never a starter unless the team is called the Nets, and even then he should come off the bench.
by Scal4theallstargame on Feb 1, 2010 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
so u wanna continue to start Ray Allen
who is I hate to say this but is as much turnover prone right now as TA.
"No I’m not KG. Not at all, but I’m Big Baby Glen Davis from LSU, Baton Rouge, Louisiana. I’m not the Big Ticket. I’m the Ticket Stub. Don’t count the Ticket Stub out. You might need the ticket to get in the game, but you leave with the ticket stub, because you’ll never forget this game."
two things
1) based on +/- for 5 man rotations, Tony works best as a sub-in for Pierce. That’s not surprising because Tony doesn’t provide the same spacing of the defense that Ray does – if anything Tony works best with Ray on the floor with him. But I’m cool with giving him a few of Ray’s minutes if only to rest Ray as much as possible – though that should be less necessary once Daniels is back.
2) Ray Allen’s turnover rate is only 1.8 per 36 minutes – that’s a hair up from the last two years (1.7) but still down from his overall career rate of 2.2. Tony, despite playing by far some of his best basketball of his career, is averaging 3.1 turnovers per 36 minutes. Not even close.
I agree with you too, at the beginning of the season, all I was reading was trade TA because he wasn’t any good, now he has a stretch of good games and he should be starting as opposed to Ray Allen who started off the season doing well, but now has had a stretch of not so good games, and now he should be traded or moved to the bench?!? I have stayed pretty neutral of TA all year, but he does well coming off the bench because other teams don’t feel the need to guard him as close, and his fresh legs can give him an advantage over offensive players who have already been playing.
What do you mean Jeff it was only against the Wizards so no big deal...
This game was very important, right after three exremely tough losses to 3 of the top 5 teams in the league, coming the day after the toughest loss of the season, when the team is imensely struggling and had just lost 11 of their last 16. And how about how the guys finally had a dominating fourt quater which I feel was huge for the team.
it was just the wiz and jamison was sleepwalking which helped, but a win… rondo played poor defense on boykins,frankly. eddie stunk out the house in the first half, but at least played good d on boykins in half 2. by the way, eddie must miss marbury who did a good job of setting him up last year when we had a true backup pg which is our problem. and also, speaking of ex-celtic pg’s, it was good to see sam cassell on the wiz bench. i would love to hear sam’s version of gilbert and the guns of navarrone. tony needs to start. pp was crashing the boards before he got hurt, which he has not been doing. hope he’s ok.
Rondo keeps getting shanked by moving screens
and the refs are obviously not going to give him the call.
That started happening seriously in the ATL game and both the Lakers and the Wizards kept it up. Doc needs to call attention to it early in games.
Eddie does need a better point off the bench so he can play more ‘true’ SG. ’Need Daniels back. He and Eddie worked well together.
Butler Tackles PP at half court!
No foul called! NBA is paintastic.
scal
i just wanted to add- scal was a big nothing again and it is getting tiring to watch him. maybe billy walker is a no talent bum taking up space, but i think he would do no worse than scal and probably better. and when scal is needed to cover a 4, shelden williams, stone hands and all would do better.
Lester hudson 13 pts 1 reb 1 assist in a tightly contested game against the lakers not too shabby good for him considering ray ray had 7 against the same team yesterday in 3 times the minutes not comparing just saying good for him
by reggie_35 on Feb 1, 2010 10:33 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Let's calm down folks
This is Lester’s, what, first time getting PT since landing in Memphis?
If he does this on a consistent basis, then we could start the “WE SHOULDA KEPT LESTER!” campaigns…
Don't Trade Rondo or Perk!
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That should read “We shoulda kept Lestah”,
People need to stop worrying about the back up PG. We have a young PG who plays 40 minutes a game. Lets be more worried about our 30+ wings.
by reebbertxx2001 on Feb 2, 2010 1:48 AM EST up reply actions
everyone here is calm - please stop telling us to be calm
he’s had more than 10 minutes of PT 3 times for memphis – scored 5, 9, and 12 points
I think we shoulda kept lestah because he’s a PG – which we clearly need – as opposed to a backup wing – which we probably need but we already have 2 who don’t play…
by milt palacio's shot on Feb 2, 2010 5:39 AM EST up reply actions
Need Slashing
The club needs slashing from the wing so bad. PP doesnt go that way so much anymore, so the club is turning into a perimeter team. TA changes that. That was Lesters potential.
All over the TA bandwagon all the time
I’m on the Billy Walker bandwagon too. We need more hustle.
by Fred Roberts on Feb 1, 2010 10:33 PM EST via mobile reply actions
its amazing to me
that bipolar tony now comes in halves along with games!! he is truly amazing
Keep in mind
we almost did win the last 3 games before this one as those games for the most part came down to the final minutes and possessions.
We could of easily been 4-0 with a few breaks and bounces our way.
Agreed. But ..
“almost win” does not count in the NBA. Real great teams find ways to win close games, holding onto slim leads and coming from behind alike. This team has some work to do to get back to that level again. I am still a believer though.
by getthat18now on Feb 1, 2010 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
lol artest. i knew karma would be quick
by cheekmeister on Feb 1, 2010 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
still a tough pill to swallow
it’s hard to enjoy these wins when they are having trouble getting the harder ones. i live in southern CA and today was not a fun day to go to work let me tell you. i hope they get some much needed rest and they can get focused for the final push.
"I was like a kid in a candy store running around with his head cut off ,,,," 0_o
by CaliforniaGreen on Feb 1, 2010 10:43 PM EST reply actions
Your not serious, are you?
The close losses were because the Celtics could not close out games in the fourth quarter.
So the TV is still on CSN and on Sports Tonight Tim Welsh just said ‘Sheed found out tonight that the paint isn’t actually wet. Ha! So glad for this win even if was against Washington. We needed it badly. Please be ok, PP, please!!! Southern Californians, I sort of know how you feel. I live 50 mi. south of Cleveland. My son has become a C’s fan as well, and the poor kid constantly has to hear at school how the C’s are losing and Cavs are winning!
Steady, steady, steady
Yes it was the atrocious Wizards but we played a good 4th Q. Tony Allen has finally GOTTEN IT and I don’t think bad Tony is coming back. Rondo was awesome, Ray looked solid, Rasheed too but it all depends on KG. He looked like KG tonight.
Amazing to read on this site about Lester Hudson. I think Ainge was wrong there. He clearly was better than Gabe Pruitt. Acie Earl went for over 40 one night sand so did that terrible gunner we had back then so Lester not HOF yet. But I thought he showed more than Giddens too.
It's about time ...
… the Celtics got a win. Although it came from the lowly Wizards, we will take it. Never thought we would have to fight this hard against the Arenas-less Wizards. Those 15-, 20-pt blowouts we used to see in 2008 were distant memory. But a win is a win.
Not the case
The Celtics wiped them out on opening night.
-sw
Growing up in the Weinman household, you learn two rules very quickly if you aspire to reach double-digits in the years-of-age category: Hate thy Knick, hate thy Yankee.
Go Celtics, Go Dodgers. -sw
by Steve Weinman on Feb 2, 2010 1:43 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah....Ray is washed up
plays 38 minutes, score 17 points, 5 rebounds (one of those was key offensive rebound) 2 assists and settles the team down in the 4th Qtr…..yeah I am sure we can trade for something better than that…..let’s just throw old Ray on the scrap heap….
Good Night Ms Brickowski…….“unfortunately they are short term capital gains” …..I guess that’s your ever so positive way of appreciating a road win on the back-end of a back-to-back…..amazing
Is it Soup Yet?
Yep, Road Win Against an Elite Team
C’Mon Po, put a little ginseng into the kool aid.
Agree 100 percent Brick
While happy for the win, it was against a terrible team and it was a struggle. The good thing was they actually played a solid fourth quarter. As for Ray, if they can find the right deal they should trade him. It was a good marriage — The Celts got a championship and so did Ray.
you two should watch the games together
and pat each other on the back during timeouts
Is it Soup Yet?
Good Game
Just got home from the game, good effort to get the lead in the 4th and take control
Rise of the Lycans
It was good to see the despited Tony Allen and the despicable Rasheed Wallace lead a 4th quarter comback instead of watching the team collapse amidst a flurry of turnovers, airballs and selfish one-one-one basketball from more admired and highly salaried players.
I love Tony -- always have
When he was a rookie, I was assigned to the Tony Allen section for my half-season tickets and we got a TA autographed jersy. My son has it proudly hanging in his bedroom.
Like the Poem?
“The latter was a pudding and the former was a fake” (… but to the wonder of them all, the much despised fake tor the cover off the ball"
I'm Impressed
That guy wearing Tony Allen’s jersey was terrific. Where’d they get him?
TA
What I noticed tonight was how much badly needed energy Tony Allen delivered. The past few weeks they’ve reminded me of the post 1988 Bird teams — slow, aging teams that had huge problems with any good teams with athleticism.
Nice comeback by a guy who had sunk so low that Doc didn’t dare play him in the Orlando series back in the spring.
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