Jamison Still On The Table

Yeah, if Amare goes to CLE we are screwed. I guess that was the big deal McHale talked about…

Now, I am depressed…

makes some since. Especially if Ray get bought out

I would not do this deal as it seems to be close to fair just from a player perspective. If you factor in the fact that the Wizards would be shaving considerable money off their cap (I believe?), then I think we could do better?

Any chance our spare parts can match Jamison OR Miller’s contracts?

His contract is crap, it was sweetened by the fact that we were getting Caron… but i don’t think he’s worth that on his own.

We’re not beating the Cavs this year anyway. So Jamison is going to take Garnett’s minutes? I don’t get it. Jamison can’t guard sfs, and if you play Jamison alongside Garnett, who is going to rebound?

Now, if the Celtics could also get Brendan Haywood (a player I like) and/or Mike James, that might change my thinking.

I watched a couple of WAS games in the last couple of weeks and wasn`t impressed with Jamison at all. He was chucking up shot after shot. He is also a poor defender and a poor FT shooter. With his huge contract I don`t want him on the C`s.

With Butler OK. But certainly not alone. Caron is by far the better player…

Jamison alone? God, no.

Jamison + Mike Miller? Absolutely. Miller is the player I’m most interested in on that squad.

this is a bad deal.

I’d way rather do that. The only way I’d think about taking Jamison + Miller for Ray + whatever is if we knew for sure that Ray would be bought out and return. Otherwise, no thanks to Jamison. Butler was what made that way more palatable. Jamison’s still a good player, but not worth taking on his massive salary without proper incentive.

He stinks and he’s a cap killer

It would appear that Butler will be going to Dallas…too bad he wouldhave been a good fit.

Here is a trade that fits the Tracker and is still with Washington.

        Boston Trades Washington Trades
                           RPG ………………………….. RPG
  R. Allen …….. 3.4 …………. A. Jamison…… 8.8
  K. Perkins …. 8.1 …………. A. Blache ……… 5.0
  B. Scalabrini… .8 …………. B. Haywood …. 10.8
  G. Davis ……. 4.0 …………. M. Miller ……….. 6.1
           Total …. 16.3 ………………. Total ……. 30.7

We won’t win any championships if we don’t get rebounds. Celts are 29th out of 30 teams and it won’t happen. This adds a big plus to this critical stat.

Let’s be realistic….no one signed Davis during the off season for the reason we see now he is undersized {no wing span or height} and doesn’t jump. He gets his shots blocked under the basket 75% of the time.

Blache is a very physical player who also has some outside range.

Haywood is active and I like his attitude….Perk has become the cry baby and the refs have his number.

is it possible that danny is waiting to see what wash gets back from dallas. if it ends up being josh howard and miller for ray and 1st round pick. i’d be really happy. but adding another high priced aged big doesnt make to much sense to me.

Why not House, TA, Scal, and J.R. for Jamison? We keep Ray and Jamison becomes an outstanding sixth man for us. It works on Real GM. Then trade BBD for Augustin and we have a pretty sweet 9 man rotation that doesn’t break up the core.

The Celtics weren’t willing to take Haywood? Hmm, that’s concerning. : (

The “don’t wanna take huge contracts” bull is getting to me, too. Is this why Martin + Nocioni won’t happen?

Apparently Dallas HAS landed Butler. We havent gotten Diddly and we may not even land anybody special – with Danny willing to denying he even played for the Celtics once, lol. We needed Butler if only cause the Cavs are apparently going for Amare. If they do get Amare, the Celtics can just about forget who they land. Or are you going to be content to play for seconds?

On this one I am with Master Po. Keep Ray, say no to Twan. I don’t buy the cap killer thing cause his deal will end with KG’s. The C’s will most likely be capped until Garnett is gone then Ainge can try for Durant. But does he come off the bench? Does he play the three and Pierce the two? That will go well defensively, not!. If Miller comes along too then we can upgrade our major strength which is 3 point shooting but how far does that take you? Miller will be gone after this season like Ray, unless Ray were to take a huge discount, and we would have left Jamison, KG and The Truth to go with Rondo and Perk. I don’t see it worth making the move. This team still needs to score better late but it REALLY needs perimeter D more. I would still rather go back and look at Deng again or maybe someone else we haven’t even discussed that will pop up in the next 6 days. An athletic wing who can defend and shoot. Not hard to find. LOL!!

The game against NO shows how we look w/o Ray. He isnt the problem KG isnt doing it on either end of the court. If KG was rebounding, scoring and playing D we would be just fine. They need to replace KG w/ someone who can play.

Don’t want Ray for Jamison. That’s not going to win us a championship, and I’d rather see the ship sail into the sunset with Ray aboard.

…and comes out of the cow’s husband? That’s what all this is. Wake me up when it’s real.

…get Haywood

This team was built to play defense first,Jamison has never been known to play defense ,also he will be 35 in a couple yrs.He isn’t a post player so we basically talkin a 3 with a 4’s height.He shoots as many 3’s as Ray does.We need someone who will play a postgame plus step out and hit a 17-18ft.jump shot.He’s more of a hybird 3/4 player that gives mostly offense when he’s motivated to but lack any defensive prowess.Butler is almost a duplicate of Pierce but a yr younger and less banged up at the time.I can’t see where either will make us better for this season…maybe if Butler started the season next yr.at the 2g,it probably would work.

…Keep Ray, trade other expiring contracts for Blache. Yeah, I know he is not an outstanding citizen, but he can play and doesn’t cost that much.

no Butler,no deal

LeaveJaminson on the table as far as im concerned,..i think a lot of fans are looking at the offensive numbers more than the overall contributions.I would be concerned about the team defense and the transition defense with Jamison on the floor.He will not change at this stage of his career to suddenly start playing defense.

Haywood has a near double-double average this year. His rebounding ability is exactly what we need. Considering his contract, he’s apparently a better choice over Jamison! Therefore, if the Butler/Jamison for Ray deal is good, why Ainge not do the Butler/Haywood for Ray deal? Sorry for my poor English. :(

No thanks. Jamison is mediocre at best and 33!! I rather DA work hard on trying to pry away David Lee from the Knicks. Throw a combo of Perk and someone else in there for Lee.

Anyways, we can do better. Like DA said, the deals will get good next week.

is that he’s looking at salary commitment no longer than KG’s deal first. Second, he may have serious concerns on whether our offense is championship quality even though most of us worry about our defense. Looking at it from those aspects, Jamison makes some sense. He is a very versatile scorer and a good rebounder. Ainge is probably thinking that he would have another option as a go to scorer in crunch time besides Pierce. Danny may feel that his defense will get a little better with more health and time and be decent come playoff time. Whether that’s good enough time will tell. But this may be the reasoning why he would want Jamison if this is true.

is not mediocre and is in fantastic shape for 33. I’m still not sure about this move if it’s real but I’m not sure the other options are markedly better. Iguodala is younger and athletic but has a long contract as does Luol Deng. Is Kevin Martin on the market? Not sure what Ainge’s options are?

Ian Thomsen from SI was on WEEI a few weeks ago and mentioned that he thought that KG should look to reinvent himself more as a center / low post player to try and offset the advances of age. Wondering if Jamison interest could generate other moves if Ainge is looking at moving KG to the middle and having Jamison play the four. Ainge probably has most of our roster in play but would he seriously trade Perk. He probably would get some interesting proposals and also wouldn’t have to resign Kendrick. Food for thought….