Celtics win ugly over Kings, 95-92

A win is a win I’ll take it

Our bench wins it for us

Had the Kings not choked at the line, we would have lost.

I didn’t think he’d leave the Celtics on a horrible note, but there you go. 8 )

The starters for the most part were awful. I thought Rondo played great D on Evans for most of the game. Pierce’s 3 was big. Other than that, the starters were brutal and Perk looked like a rookie tonight. I really think the starting lineup needs to be shuffled a bit to get some life back into this team. If they playe the next three the way they played tonight, it won’t be pretty. But, much rather a win than another blown, double-digit lead loss!

kinda hesitant to see him go for Nate……but then again Nate is realy good…..I just dont know anymore

I am still not convinced by this team, another almost ugly loss thank god the Kings missed those free throws that was the difference.

I am just not confident in this team, a trade must go down!

DA will do a minor trade before the deadline, like trade Scal for a manequin. They serve the same purpose.

This team is too old to win another championship as it currently stands.

Time to step up to the plate Danny Ainge!

its now a matter of PRIDE!

0-3 the rest of this trip and blown out every game, as if there were any doubt.

in 3pt%, free throw %, points and assists lowest ever since his rookie year.. rebounds lowest ever…. trade trade trade trade trade

As if any of the trades anyone here is suggesting are gonna somehow miraculously improve our fortunes. This team, particularly the starters, rely too much on jump shots. Anyone notice how well the 2nd unit played. Guess what? They took it to the hoop. That is why they were able to score easier.

- Sheed in the past 2 games has done a 180. He’s posting up, and fighting hard on all fronts. This is great news for the Cs, and makes a huge difference to their bottom line.
- Eddie’s found his shot.
- Davis is working hard, getting decent results.

But KG looks defeated. Perk has been absolutely stinking up the place in the last 2-3 games. And Paul’s overconfidence is way over the top… he’s great shooting 3s and FTs, but what the hell’s happened to his inside game? The man can’t seem to hold on to a simple dribble, much less score off it.

They better get better than this or we’re going to be very unhappy very soon.

Any moves the Celtics make now should be directed towards next season and the future. This season is water under the bridge.

Qusiy has been playing far better than Ray lately. Insert him in Ray’s spot and have Pierce be the shooter. This will help Ray, giving him better matchups against 2nd team caliber players. Might give the starters some athleticism and energy. Of course we then would need that backup PG.

And then beat LA?

It’s time to reset. Get younger, longer and more athletic by dealing Ray (as much as you can) and then look to make more moves this offseason.

Anything else seems delusional to me.

He looked like he didn’t fit into what they’re trying to do there. He would actually work better with Boston. But I see your point – Ainge shouldn’t have to swallow a bad contract unless we get something else in return – e.g. a protected first.

Not that there’s any deal in place but Ray for Martin/Nocioni/protected first would be okay. Not sure there’s gonna be many more options out there…

The second unit played very well in the 2nd Q and got a 10 point lead. When the starters were filitered back, the lead shrunk. At this stage, the 2nd unit played a better game than the starters.

The starters now even missed potential dunks, layups and easy shots. I don’t look forward to the game on Thursday.

If this one game is any indication, then the system reboot didn’t help much.

dont worry about nothing sheed will lead us to the playoffs and beyond good game by him on both end of the floor he knows that team needs him to step up while starters struggle and he will .but i rather see him starting like he did 4 the last 15 or so years.and whats up with all those blocked shots on perkins .i will give 2 more weeks and sheed will b a starter and damn he should be

If Sheed would play like this every night there would be no thought at all of trading him… the offense seems so out of whack, used to look so smooth….. Jamison might be a better fit even at 2 more expensive years over say KMart and having to take Nocioni’s albatross of a contract with him…. Steve, how long is Perk gonna live off of his rep of playing Dwight well? …… Need a defensive wing badly (Brewer?), Ray has no D anymore….. Need an offensive force at that spot too (Not Brewer!)…. Sure was impressed with Thompson, he’s the King I want……On to LA………..

yeah jamison could start for pierce or KG hes versatile enough to be small forward from time to time or come of the bench with sheed or PERK if he keep on playing this way .allen is in slump but who wasnt give him some time hell be ok.

he had couple of nice dunks already leave it mate ha ha

was that the bench produced like we had hoped it would when Danny compiled it this summer. Unfortunately the starters stunk the joint up. What was up with all those blocked shots??!!! horrible effort/production from the starters.

another stinkeroo. i know what the big 3 excuses are- too many miles on the tires, too many dents in the fenders, not enough turbo charging—but what’s perk’s excuse? he was the biggest rally killer-again. his old habits i.e. the bad ones, of winding up before he shoots, or putting the ball on the floor when he’s 1 inch from the basket and setting moving picks are back. and then there’s the no look pass to no one and the the hands of stone approach to catching passes. at least he cut down on the ref whining. methinks we’re a bit harsh on ray- not a stellar game- but 15 points and his man on d did little damage. pp is playing no better than ray. how many charges on paul in the last 10 games? i think he should start daniels over ray tho. doc stop the bs and act- do something.

how I would play, knowing that this might be my last game in this uniform ? ..or is my friend on a plane 24hrs from now ? Just a thought…

There are no easy wins for old teams and that goes back to the first Big 3 after ‘86. The only solution is not available right now – get young smartly. Ray for K Martin and Nocioni is one dumb move. Jamison same thing. Iguodala would be a dumb move for Philly. I will admit that Nate Robinson for Eddie (and a hot Eddie are my favorite NBA moments) is interesting.
There is always talent in the draft. That guy Casspi is good example. Danny must hoard draft picks and do his thing.
One theme I will agree on is Perk’s game has gone somewhere. Doc needs to whack some of these guys upside the head. No, we don’t want to trade Perk but he’s in a funk.

Finally, you need to get over the urgency to “do something”. We go as far as KG’s game goes. Can’t trade around that.

should be looked into being moved before he gets paid beyond his value. That’s what I’m saying. Blu what you say is true about KG. Problem is KG is now what he is, an aging veteran big. he’s not gonna get better. So either we are cooked or can Ainge find another big by using Ray & Perk together? find out soon i guess…..

stevenfuzz, it’s been a lot longer than3 bad games for perk. he’s been on a gradual downswing since xmas. i’m not suggesting trading him and i am not berating him, but he is fixable and he’s playing poorly. something is going on with him.

Orlando is feast or famine..Atl is currently in beast mode but we’ll see how they produce come playoff time. Danny Ferry is so scared of losing Lebron that even having the best record in the nba feels more like de ja vous (sp?) than an accomplishment. I never in my life heard a team playing the best ball in the nba willing to trade they’re improving PF and floor spreading Center for either:

A: Stoudemire (offense yes! Defense..uhh well not so much)

B) Cory Maggette (please stop me from laughing)
Or..
C) Antwan Jamisson (sp?)

Letem dig they own grave and just politely give a nudge so your team can be the victim of Lebron walking off court without shaking hand.

I never was a big Perk fan I will admit. He had improved from the early days with Big Al and to me he was “ok”. Then he played Howard well in head to head matchups and the national media gave him a lot of props that maybe went to his head ?? Maybe it was playing next to KG that made him look better I dunno, maybe not. KG is not the same KG anymore so if he was covering for Perk it won’t happen any longer. Ainge can decide if he wants what he gets out of Perk at center and pay him accordingly or look for something better especially since KG has regressed. If Perk ends up wanting to be overpaid Ainge will have a problem what with the new CBA coming. Maybe there’s nothing better out there. Maybe there is. I think Ainge should try to find out.

What troubles me is the total ineptness of both Perk and KG to finish in the paint. It seemed like Perk had 10 shots blocked at the rim last nite. KG seems afraid to shoot a layup. I realize that KG still has knee issues and no explosiveness but come on guys. When you are 2 ft from the hoop you have to make them. And the problem is the guys who are blocking their shots are not Dwight Howard and Shaq but Casspi and Green and Thompson et al.

is a champion. He won with the others and deserves the praise. And I agree he has worked very hard to improve himself. I also agree that it isn’t just perk that has not played well. Pierce is getting older like KG and Ray and even Rondo has had, as you say, “spotty” moments. I’m not throwing anyone under the bus. Just saying that if we want to improve this team for this year and beyond some hard decisions may have to be made. One of them very well could be on Kendrick.

PP – Clutch 3 and FTs last night but like someone said above what happened to his inside game? The guy NEEDS to stop looking for foul calls every time he goes to the rim (he is just not getting them this year at all) and just finish. On a positive note I have seen less ISO plays down the stretch as of late (only remember one from last night).

KG – I’m going to say he looked better last night (his lateral quickness is still kinda bad as D. Marsh commented on). But he had that intensity and was going up for the rebounds and was actually trying. They need to get him involved more on offense so he can get his 15ft jumper back – especially in the 2nd half of games (1 shot I think?)

Ray – Played pretty good D on Martin and was really trying to fight through picks and screens to stay with him. Man where did his 3 point shot go tho? Just front rimming EVERYTHING (1 for 6 from 3 point land I think). Could be his back bothering him, could be he’s in a slump, could be the trade rumors – who knows?

Rondo – Decent job on Evans. Hit two 3s (I think)?! He needs to look for his shot more when everyone else is struggling (needed to drive more later in the game too). It’s funny tho but you can see him taking more of a leadership role with this team now – specially on the offense – I wonder if it kind of throws a small wrench into the chemistry of the starters with all those vets (just a thought).

Perk – What has happened to the big guy? Shots getting blocked and putting the ball on the floor half a foot from the basket – CATCH THE BALL AND GO UP AND FINISH. You can tell he is pouting around and it’s effecting his game. I actually saw KG ask Perk if he was alright while someone was shooting FTs. I wonder if it’s that Doc loves his vets and Perk has it stuck in his head that if he doesn’t perform then he’s gonna get yanked (Sheed has been cutting into his minutes big time as of late).

My 2 cents.

We didnt win ugly; The Kings lost ugly.