Joke is on Celtics after Loss to Nets
by Jimmy Toscano on Feb 27, 2010 5:51 PM EST
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The Boston Celtics have hit a new low over the past three seasons today after getting embarrassed by one of the worst teams in recent history, the New Jersey Nets.
After jumping out to a 12-2 lead early in the first quarter, the Nets called a timeout to stop the bleeding. Devin Harris scored nine points and Courtney Lee added five within the next four minutes and the Nets were able to tie the game up at 18. They took a two point lead into the second quarter and the Celtics never recaptured the lead for the remainder of the game.
A late surge in the fourth quarter after the Celtics trailed by as many as 18 points got the fans back into the game, but the rally fell short. The effort shown in the late stages of the fourth was what fans were looking for all game, but saw none of.
This is yet another disappointing loss at the TD Garden, a place where the only thing growing is frustration. The Celtics have now lost 11 games at home this season, giving teams the confidence they need to believe they can win here.
"That's what we talked about coming out of the road trip, that we wanted to come back and sustain home court advantage and take advantage of playing at home," said a discouraged Rajon Rondo after the game. "Not right now, guys are coming in thinking they can win at the Garden, and last year it was totally opposite."
With the losses piling up, fans are starting to point fingers at coaching and management decisions, but it ultimately falls on the players who aren't doing enough on the court.
"You lose, you lose," Kevin Garnett said bluntly. "They kicked our asses tonight, period- point blank. Players have to do more, including myself, we all have to dig deep and see what we're made of as a team."
"I think sometimes we don't respect guys like we should," admitted Kendrick Perkins. "We give them an open shot, uncontested. I just feel like we need to take more pride in the defensive end than we do in the offensive end."
Asked whether or not this game was a wake up call for the Celtics, Perkins said, "How many wake up calls are we going to get? We got a lot of them to be honest with you."
The Celtics shot 50% from the field today hitting ten more shots than the Nets in the process, but only went 9-11 from the free throw line. The Nets shot below 45% but got to the line 41 times- hitting 34 of those attempts. With Paul Pierce out of the lineup, the Celtics failed to be aggressive in attacking the hoop, and it proved to be their downfall.
"I felt as though at some points in the game they had more energy than us and it looked like they just wanted it more than we did at certain points in the game," said Rasheed Wallace. "I think we only have like 25 or 24 games left, so to have a lot of uncertainty at this point it definitely has to raise a couple of our flags a little bit and we just have to knuckle down."
Lost in the disappointment of this loss was the encouraging play of Kevin Garnett. Garnett shot 12-16 for 26 points and grabbed nine rebounds on the night. Still, the Celtics would like to get him more shots. During the Celtics' championship season, Garnett averaged 14 shots per game. This season he is averaging just 11.
"Kevin is so 100% about the team, he's always thinking ball movement early. And one of the things we told him, ‘We are moving it- to you. And we want you to look at it.' And I thought he did a great job of that early on. And then I thought he went a long stretch without touching it, and that's on us."
The Celtics will not hold practice tomorrow, but will practice on Monday. They will then travel to Detroit to play the Pistons Tuesday night. They lost to Detroit the only other time they played them this season back on January 20th.
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Didn't see the game (messed up on the time) but
this statement disturbs me by Sheed
“I think we only have like 25 or 24 games left, so to have a lot of uncertainty at this point it definitely has to raise a couple of our flags a little bit and we just have to knuckle down.”
While I am not raising a white flag like many on this site…..Sheed better raise a green PAINT flag … and stare it to remind him to get in the paint and stay there…..
Like I said I did not see the game……but there can be no excuse for this loss. NONE…..where in the heck is the fire?? the pride
ughhh
Is it Soup Yet?
During most of the game
the C’s had their heads down, didn’t believe in themselves and got booed by the crowd.
So your right….where exactly is the fire and most importantly where is the pride?
Wishing
doc,perk,bbd,and scal would dissapear. Since ainge wont have the balls to get rid of them,or atleast fire doc. And get a real coach to use these bums the right way.sorry really got to get rid of scal. He is more of a clown and embarassment more than anything else.
What Perkz said
If you guys are getting the wake up calls (and have gotten a lot of em so far), then when will you guys actually start taking them under consideration??
Today the def did hit the rock bottom….I don’t think they can play worse than how they did tonight (unless they plan to go 0-7 on the upcoming games).
Team chemistry is disrupted, and until ubuntu doesn’t come alive within the team….I don’t see them improving much.
It's a nice sentiment, but it is meaningless
This game will mean as much to them as the other 11 games they have lost since Christmas when they had a double-digit leads. Read their quotes. They sound like a defeated bunch of guys who really have no idea what to do.
if doc is such a players coach
why cant he get into his players heads and wake them up? i remember learning about him shining the spotlight on the wall of the practice gym next to the previous banner and prasing unbuntu. this was embaressing.
the few, the proud, the boston celtics
They are not winning a championship. we have this group till end of the season. lets enjoy what we can.
by celticspride4ever on Feb 27, 2010 6:20 PM EST reply actions
You know, you’re right (although I’ll admit I am still holding onto a sliver of hope for a championship). But, we are C’s fans no matter what. It’s frustrating because we all know this group should be better than this, but times have been a lot worse, so let’s just enjoy this group while we can! Exactly right!
The important decisions start this summer. Ainge and company must START OVER - REBUILD!
by celticspride4ever on Feb 27, 2010 6:20 PM EST reply actions
yea... we have no tradeable assets outside of Rondo.
No financial flexibility to make an impact signing.
I think what people fail to realize is that by holding onto Ray’s expiring contract, we’ve really hindered what we can do with this roster for the rest of this season and next.
Rondooooooo
is there any reason?
williams and landry dont play? dont tell me they arent getting it done in practice but scal is lol!!!!!!!!!
Agreed... where was Sheldon, Landry, etc.
by Gainesville Celtic on Feb 27, 2010 6:28 PM EST up reply actions
i kept expecting doc to bench everyone and embarass them - since the play on the court was an embarasment.
by Gainesville Celtic on Feb 27, 2010 6:28 PM EST up reply actions
Danny needs to pick up some players through buyout signings
this current squad just will not cut it I think if we want to make a legit run in the playoffs.
It's one game in late february 2010!
don’t worry we still have the next 100 seasons
Well at least the C’s seem to have given up on the “we have to be a 48 minute team” answer. They have proven not to be a shadow of their former selves. This team needs to be completely deconstructed, and re-assembled with new faces. Everybody loves Garnett, but he is not getting better. He has been reduced to a jump-shooter, too worried about his knee to be aggressive at getting to the rim. I can’t blame him, since it is his health in question. But this is the 2nd season that his lack-of-play has affected. We need a big man presence! Perkins is great, and his energy is promising. But he has gained a reputation – even on great defensive stands he gets whistled. We need a big man with smart play – Pau Gasol is probably the smartest big man playing right now. He understands the simple philosophy of keeping the ball UP IN THE AIR! Andrew Bynum has picked that up also. Those guys also rebound great—-a deadly combo, as it nearly guarantees that if a teammate misses the J, they will collect a rebound and drop it in (without even lowering their arms). This is so…seemingly obvious. Isn’t it? I watch teams like the Lakers, or the Cavs, or the Magic. They all have great shooters, but they also each have that guy that will hustle for an offensive rebound for a 2nd opportunity. They all have multiple players that are willing and able to be aggressive, drive to the rim, whatever it takes to create high percentage opportunities. The Celtics lack. This is a team that started out the season as believable championship contenders. It was not long ago when these same players were running the floor, making extra passes, creating opportunities for the easy points. It wasn’t long ago when this looked like another great year. Obviously there have been injuries that have plagued the Celtics. Bad luck? Maybe a little, but maybe more so it is the reality of having an older roster. Boston/New England teams seem to have all decided to become the place where aging athletes go to “give it one last go.” The problem is they all seem to be failing, and slowly deciding to retire, or move on to the next team. More than any other correction, I wish that Doc would take a lesson from Phil Jackson. When Phil sees something negative happening, it is always an immediate timeout and players get spoken to aggressively. Phil’s players don’t make the same mistakes over and over, they learn from their mistakes or they don’t play. I wish Doc would coach the same way. This is getting so lengthy, but I could go on and on and on…
Very hard to read
(Think about using paragraphs.) But what I did notice was that you claim KG is NOT getting better and Perk is great. Sorry, but you got that all wrong. KG is, in fact, getting better and better. Today was a GREAT game for KG, didn’t you notice? He’s getting more limber, more active, more mobile, and more productive all the time.
And Perk? Perk has stunk for weeks now. Has an occasional good game, only to fall backward again in the next. He’s playing a lot like Sheed now in that respect. Can’t say Perk is great with a straight face anymore.
Let me add
Jackson never calls TO’s. It’s a well known fact that his philosophy is to let the team work it out on the court.
haha i watch almost every lakers game. you should watch one…not just when the C’s play them I mean. I used to hate PJ, but now I see how smart he is I think he’s a great coach. He addresses the issues in a way that gets his players to correct them. If they don’t he doesn’t play them. It’s that simple. Doc seems to reward his players’ mistakes by letting them continue on the path of destruction. He seems to just go through the motions of calling a timeout when they are stinking up the game, but not succeeding in getting through to his players. The Celtics make mistakes that is usually corrected by your coach when you’re 12 years old. Basic things like setting picks, boxing out, staying within 10 miles of the other team’s BEST 3-point shooter!!!!!! On top of all that nobody except Ray, Paul, and KG (and Davis/Sheed now) can shoot FT’s.
Clearly Celtics need to tank
And drop down below the #4 seed so they can play most of their playoff games on the road
Trade Rondo NOW
while he still has MAX APPEAL
Trust me 5 years from now you’ll be begging to get a BIG for RR.
The season of sleeping in has turned into a disaster
Remember the new rule this year — sleep late, no shoot-arounds, etc. How is that working for them?
by vinnie on Feb 27, 2010 6:53 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
FIRE DOC RIVERS
Please this team needs a message sent and a real wake up call doc is providing neither,it just might light the fire underneath their behinds
by reggie_35 on Feb 27, 2010 6:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions
it;s time to bring in a new voice
since they aren’t listening to doc and you can’t fire the players. i’ll always appreciate doc for bringing home the title but this team needs a shakeup. not sure who to bring in but it’s time…
Doc is not getting fired this year at this time
Maybe in the offseason it will happen, but he is not going anywhere until then
Unless Danny decides he wants to coach
Very unlikely due to his health, but possible
by nba is the worst on Feb 28, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
Disagree - no free agency, and Red broke the token color barrier
Red led the league into the 20th century – but it was WAY easier to win titles in the dynasty era, and besides, 10>9
by nba is the worst on Feb 28, 2010 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
Get it out of your system
Because, it can’t get any worse than this. Losing to the Nets at home. But, while some organizations may make decisions in anger, this one won’t. So Doc isn’t going anyplace. And with 2 more years left, neither is Rasheed. And, TRADE RONDO, is just a stupid blogger vent.
What is showing up though, is Doc’s inability to improvise in the moment. I think he’s thinking “They aren’t doing what I told them to do” and great coaches should have the cojones to do the reverse of what’s failing. But even if Doc WEREa tactical genius that would only salvage a game like today maybe. He can’t coach them past the 3 better East teams. Rondo and Perkins have the energy to do something out of the box but not the basketball brains yet. Rondo should get it, but brains will never be part of Perk’s game. He’ll be reaching in and getting defensive 3 secs when he’s 30. The Big 3 have lost game faster than Danny hoped in his 3 year plan. Good thing we over-achieved in year one.
It would be interesting to come on this blog and read more thoughtful ideas and less “Fire this guy” or “Cut that guy” but blog posts are like America today – the average is below average. I appreciated the Ray Allen expiring discussion but Danny just couldn’t find tempting enough value. I trust he tried. I’d like to see some comments on why, the hell, Sheldon Williams doesn’t get some minutes. Yes Davis is back and better but Williams wasn’t terrible and we need 2nd effort and a guy that buried on bench should have that.
Danny is in an interesting predicament but it isn’t as bad as the day after lottery day. Let’s give him some time. I thought his anger in the paper today was good and after this stinkeroo that locker room should have some new tension. Which at this point can only help
It can get worse
They said before the game that Perk is suffering from flu symptoms. In the post-game interviews, KG was sniffling a LOT… so much that he looked sick. So yeah, it can get even worse. Imagine that game without KG, the one single bright spot on the Cs’ side. Ugh
Sniffles or tears of shame and embarassment?
It was hard to tell which.
by RedsBean on Feb 28, 2010 8:31 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Nah, his voice was fine
He was sniffling. A lot.
Btw… flu shot may work for swine flu. But there are like 10k other bugs that could infect them… doesn’t make you invulnerable.
At a minimum
Baby should be benched in favor of Shelden.
"People don't understand, if you can't live the rest of your life off one year in the NBA, you can't live off 21." -- Keon Clark
Celtics are a joke...
They are not gonna make it outta the first round of the playoffs, and even if they do, they will definitely not make it through the second. Looks like all the bandwagoner fans are jumping off the boat like its the Titanic.
The cycle
It’s not jumping off the bandwagon so much as dealing with a team you love that isn’t living up to its potential.
It’s also accepting the inevitable decline of what used to be a great team. You’ll be there soon, don’t worry. Like KG, Kobe will eventually deteriorate.
character. this team has tooo many characters
all with with their own agenda.
any team that looses to NJ on their home court should not enter the playoffs.
And i can’t say how quickly the chemistry of a championship changed. these celtics do not deserve to be world champs…… not this year.
sorry kobe rules
celtics fan can say we beat lakers more often that lakers beat celtics.
u can’t change history sorry pal. but we give ur lakers the props. good team this year.
but this is celtics blog so I’m here for a different reason than u.
This sums it up....STILL - no excuse
It’s different [the 2007-08 season], guys are really anxious to get to the playoffs," said Perkins. “You’ve got veteran guys — Rasheed, [Kevin Garnett] — you can tell the regular season, it really don’t excite them. Even with Paul and Ray, but you still gotta go out there and compete, it’s not an excuse for losing. Guys just really want to get to crunch time.”
I think this probably does sum it up to a certain extent.
But, if you play like you practice, and the regular season is considered practice . . .
No
I’m quite sure it’s the reality. Either way though, it’s a problem.
Should beat the Nets
anyway, in our sleep. Getting humiliated by a 5-win team at home evidences a problem far beyond “waiting for the playoffs” doldrums.
"People don't understand, if you can't live the rest of your life off one year in the NBA, you can't live off 21." -- Keon Clark
as of 2day we r the laughing stock of the league not the nets because next year they might have a better team than us
At least . . .
it wasn’t on national TV today.
Doc
Doc has got to do better than say “it’s not the system.” Dude it is the system and at the end of the day it’s the coach’s responsibility to motivate the players. Look there is enough talent on this team to make a run…
Doc has got start trying some different things, lineups, 6th and 7th men, playing young bench guys more….. dude improvise…try some new things…get creative… don’t keep saying it’s not my fault…
by David Henderson on Feb 27, 2010 8:41 PM EST reply actions
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am I the only person who thinks we should trade Pierce. I’m just sayin, hes getting old and isn’t a very valuable asset. I understand that we need him to make that big shot in the final seconds, but I think its because of Pierce that we need a game winning shot in the first place.
Its too bad not many teams are gonna want him.
I would trade anyone for the right package, but...
…what’s the right package?
6th man
With the injuries KG and Paul have had maybe more balance with youth and healthy players. Change the 6th man roll have one of the vets from the 1st unit and have them come in early in the first quarter as the 6th man. The Celtics way back used to do this their 6th man was Havlicek, McHale etc. Worth a try? Start one of the bench players it always worked before.
this is it
We have reached our nadir. There is no hope. Sad part is, we wont be able to contend next season as well because of the salary cap situation. At least we won in 2008 though.
throwing it out there
wouldnt a good coach sit sheed when he is shooting 28% from the 3-point line ???
Not sure he's interested in playing for the MLE
Unless you’re willing to trade Rondo, Perkins, and pieces in a sign-and-trade deal to Toronto in which Bosh would have to agree to go to Boston, which is highly doubtful.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
Dec. 27, 2009
Celtics were 23-5 at start of day
That night :
Celtics & Clippers were tied at 90…1 second remaining on game clock…Rondo goes to the line to shoot two FT`s.
Rondo misses both shots….Celtics are 13-16 from that moment on…Thanks a lot, Rajon!!!
i won’t give up on this team because i’ve been celtic green since the late50’s, but watching today, it sure looks like this team has given up on itself. like tommy said, they sure need a lesson on how to defend the pick and roll- all year long. and the abandonment of the boards is also like a cancer on this team. what’s happening with thom tibs? has his system gone astray? or are the players’ chemistry, age, and or state of tuning out overcome the system? i just don’t see any changes or attempts to change a gameplan when it isn’t working. harris was clearly beating rondo off the dribble and out of picks all day. if perk was sick, he has an excuse, because he sure played like a sick man-he looked and played awful.
Doc, Danny, team, 3s are killing us, figure it out!
- Stop the 3s- I’m not breaking any new ground here.
Some stats though on 3s
- verse the Nets today 3/19
- after starting red hot verse Cavs, 2nd half just 1 of 12 in 3s as the Cavs outscored us by 30 in the 2nd half
- Verse Denver in a game we really weren’t in all day 2/13.
- Verse New Orleans another lose near the All Star break 1 of 8.
- We are around #13 for most 3s shot per game (18 attempts). Yet we are around #18 in 3 pt FG% (34.5). (Cavs, Nuggets, Suns all hitting 38-40%+ on their 3s).
- We are last in the league, #30 in field goal attempts per game with 76 total shots per game (Bucks take 86 shots per game, Minny and Golden State take 85).
- Almost 1 of every 4 shots we take is a 3 and even with the great Ray Allen from 3 point land, we are average on making the 3s. Shooting 3s is not a formula for winning championships and nothing in these stats warrant the Celts shooting the 3 as often as they have.
Pierce won the 3 point shooting contest in the A.S. game and hitting 44% for the year-phenomenal- let him take all the 3s he wants.
Ray is only at 34% this year but that’s basically Ray’s game (career 39% 3 pointer) and you hope that improves like it has recently. Eddie was at 38% but he’s gone. Nate is a career 35% 3 guy, about average. Sheed is a pitiful 28% for the year (235 attempts, 2nd most on the team and about 50 more than Pierce this year).
- Celts need to change their style of play or they have no shot in going far. Doc should have put the kibosh on all these 3s with the exception of about 3 players from the get go. Better late than never.
Celts are last in the league in total rebounds and last in the league in offensive rebounds. Perk needs to plant himself under the board, Sheed too. KG at times needs to get under there too unless his 18’ is hitting.
We aren’t the defensive powerhouse we were 2 years ago. Although we are still a good defensive team, shooting 3s is not going to help make up for the deficiency. It is now to the point where weaker teams can beat us, especially in Boston, if we can’t shoot well from long range- that’s not Celtic championship ball.
Danny, Doc, Sheed- we fans aren’t all donkeys. You have the same stats we have… why are the fans figuring this out and you guys are doing the same ole same ole….
by bostoncelts fan on Feb 27, 2010 11:13 PM EST reply actions
yeah i agree! it seems like the C’s always think their only option in the 2nd half is the 3 ball. Hell, didn’t Rondo shoot 3/6 against Cavs? That isn’t the answer. Try being aggressive like the other teams…that are BEATING you!!!! lol but these guys just don’t get it I guess. I don’t think Pierce being out matters much—-he kinda sucks this year. Also, he lost more of my respect after the 3 pnt contest when he claimed to be one of the greatest shooters in history. Hasn’t he been averaging like 20% FG? what a joke, at least he kinda laughed as he said it
Actually, Paul had the league's best 3pt record at the time
So he was right, about 3pt shooting anyway. Doesn’t make it any less distasteful.
bostoncelts fan - Talk to Sheed
He’s the source of this problem. Paul was best in the league shooting 3s, and Ray’s been average, except in recent games when he’s been over-the-top great.
A New Low
No more spinning, please. This was a disgrace. RW’s comments are illuminating-anyone who has been watching his play would know that “they” want it more than he does. His effort at the defensive end is atrocious and yet Doc, for all his stern talk of accountability, doesn’t bench him. Ubuntu?? Seems like such a quaint memory.
by McHaleinthepost on Feb 27, 2010 11:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Perk
What happened to the warrior? Gone is the swagger, replaced with a sulk. His body language is terrible and his play no better. Another sign that the chemistry on this team has evaporated in a hurry. Where is the leadership from C Pierce and Doc?
by McHaleinthepost on Feb 27, 2010 11:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Your insight is useless/You are useless...
These are just scrimages until the playoffs. An 82 schedule scrimage. Anyone that thinks otherwise is out to lunch. Nothing you conjecture or speculate will be taken in to consideration by the Celtics team. Stop whining. There is nothing you can do. Once the playoffs start it will be the end of any handwringing that has taken place this season. I can’t wait to exhale the smoke of “I told you so” come April…
There is no team that can beat us once the playoffs start.
Optimism is kryptonite to Celtics Blog posters….
I hope your right
BUT that isn’t the case. What is happening to us now is NOT what the Spurs intended to do during the 06-07 season. They let their main players rest during the season, playing less minutes, then bring their game on during the playoffs. What is happening right now IS SOMEHOW what happened to the 94-95 Rockets with a little twist. They slipped during the season (6th seed only) because of injuries but they held their head up high, played together, they were confident and had the heart of a champion. What we’re seeing right now is a total meltdown of the Celtics: INJURIES plus disrupted team chemistry, inconsistent playing, and self-confidence hitting rock bottom.
If we only had the Nuggets mentality that they can beat anyone, then even if we have a stinking record going in to the playoffs, I can bet that this team has a chance to win a championship BUT again that is not the case right now. There are still 25 games to turn all this things around. I hope this loss to the Nets become a realization or wake-up call to them. And please, Doc, don’t overplay your starters.
"The beautiful thing about when you go through a slide is that you learn from it. Not just saying that you learn from it, but applying the things that you have learned." - KG
by LoveTheShootingPF on Feb 28, 2010 1:05 AM EST up reply actions
The Spurs were 58-24 during the 06-07 championship season
They did not coast at all that year
Problems
I know I’m adding nothing to the conversation cuz all the points have been made, but I do believe here are some of the problems:
- Age
- Possible generation war between vets and youngs.
- Injuries
- Sheed (I LOVED the signing, now don’t like it)
- Doc’s seeming inability to adjust/adapt (the Shelden blackout is weird)
- Not sure if it’s “pride” (which i think is a bit overplayed in this room, sorry), but “fire” definitely is lacking
I’ve been saying all along if this ship isn’t righted by April, it’s over. Still not ready to go earlier than that, but if y’all don’t think this team is in trouble, you really need to re-think this season. The warning signs are way too obvious.
problems--doc, doc, and doc
starts and ends with doc. if your starters are a weak link<injured,old, or otherwise>, you gotta sit em, sprinkle em in like mrs dash—-empty the bench, sign a bunch of guys off waivers. you don’t perform/you dont play. no friends, no players coach…..my name is mr rivers, tryouts are tommorrow, no spot is guaranteed. point blank period.
malcontents....the lot of you
Never thought I'd see a Mrs. Dash reference on the Blog
lol
"People don't understand, if you can't live the rest of your life off one year in the NBA, you can't live off 21." -- Keon Clark
In my opinion...
since KG is not 100% and the Truth has an injured thumb, the team should just rest both for the rest of the season. The C’s can’t beat the Cavs, Magic and Hawks this year. By resting both stars, it gives them more time to recuperate and maybe even get a better draft position. Is this giving up? No, it’s playing it smart with your two stars who are not going to be a hundred % the rest of the year anyway.
"The voice of the intellect is a soft one, but it does not rest until it has gained a hearing"
pfffffhahahahahahahaha
What's the matter? The CIA got you pusing too many pencils?
by adubson on Feb 28, 2010 1:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hmmm...
I’m glad you are amused.
"The voice of the intellect is a soft one, but it does not rest until it has gained a hearing"
by Jeff_Fuller_49 on Mar 1, 2010 12:50 AM EST up reply actions
Pointless
Going from a pick in the late 20s to the mid 20s is utterly meaningless. There’s no possible way that Boston won’t make the playoffs, so picking in the lottery is also out of the question. As constructed, this team is built to go all-in for a title run with the current batch of players. There are far too many long-term contracts to start a significant rebuilding process (as you’ll never be bad enough to rebuild adequately through the draft), so you might as well milk this core for all it’s worth.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
FORUMS hacked..
can’t open forums, don’t know why?
The virus that has bugged the C’s has reached Celticsblog.
"No I’m not KG. Not at all, but I’m Big Baby Glen Davis from LSU, Baton Rouge, Louisiana. I’m not the Big Ticket. I’m the Ticket Stub. Don’t count the Ticket Stub out. You might need the ticket to get in the game, but you leave with the ticket stub, because you’ll never forget this game."
Bologna!
All this talk how pj sits his players if they make bad decisions is Bologna! Derek Fisher, Odom, and Gasol always makes bad decisions, and yet they alwys get minutes…he might bench farmar, Sasha, Powell..but he can’t afford to bench the others…Blaming Doc is a cop out…ray will have open looks and miss, Rondo can have a open look to shoot and passes it up, KG still struggling to get back to self, PP can’t score like he used to, in fact the whole team goes on offensive droughts and somehow they should fire doc??? THEY’RE OLD AND INJURED IT HAPPENS TO THE BEST OF THEM, (JORDAN WITH THE WIZARDS) Spurs has similar problems and it’s not because of Popivich, They’re star players are old or injured..just like C’s.
by kelly811 on Feb 28, 2010 9:22 AM EST via mobile reply actions
imo
They’re only human, the big three has a lot of miles on them, we’re talking 12 years + of great basketball from each of them… You had to believe that at one point they were gonna fade, and we’re starting to see it. I’m sorry its sad but true but we may be seeing the last days of the big three playing basketball….
by kelly811 on Feb 28, 2010 9:31 AM EST via mobile reply actions
i was watching ernie vandeweghe the game before this defeat when we beat the nets and in yesterday’s game. he was calmly coaching, telling players what to do. they went out and executed. in the loss, the c’s talent was too much for them. yesterday the c’s didn’t show up. a problem for this team is the players know it all. as opposed to the nets who actually go out and try to execute, the c’s turn it on and off and the game often gets away from them. sheed is the prototype been there done that guy who talks the talk but only walks the walk when he feels like. there are too many others on this team like that including the coaching staff. if i hear doc say one more time that he really likes the makeup of this team, i’ll puke.
Was hoping to wake up today and find that yesterday's game did not happen
Alas, there it is, all over the Globe. Ugh.
Celtics are "Dead Team Walking"
Give them a blindfold and cigarette!
Rebounding!
How can we be near the bottom in rebounding and expect win games? Rebounding is about being in the game, having intensity and being willing to work.of the rebounds that Sheed, KG and BBD get how many are at the rim/in the paint 25%, maybe? get your butt in there and fight for the ball, the other night against the cavs, did anyone block out varejao?
I think Perk is being left stranded in the paint too often by himself. No one else wants to do the work down there so he is out-numbered.Sheed seems allergic, KG wants to be out in the 15 to 20 foot area, and BBD needs to learn how to use his size, and on offense finish at the basket harder.
big z is goin back to the cavs and they need to cut someone. i think we should look into the guy they waive. who knows, powe might return!
by farias on Feb 28, 2010 2:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Cavs would have to cut by tomorrow
… for that guy to be eligible to play in the playoffs for a new team. (But they can sign Z anytime, since he’s already cut.)
It's probably Jawad Williams
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
remember that consultant
remember that consultant that the celts hired that advised doc on limiting practices and letting the players sleep in to save the aged ones. It looks like he told them to take it easy during the season as well.
great laker game tonight!
fun to watch kobe distribute and the lakes overcome the amazing Ft discrepancy in the first half.
also, i remember all these folks saying how much better sheed is than Odom (as 6th man) and Artest (as off season acquisition). wow. they are not even in the same league at this stage.
bring on the playoffs!
I don’t think anyone can compare to Antawn Jamison in terms of impact.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Mar 5, 2010 6:36 PM EST reply actions
If the Cavs did this they’d be getting read the riot act – and if you think I’m kidding – I’m NOT.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Mar 8, 2010 11:26 PM EST reply actions
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