Gary Tanguay’s Misguided "Plan"

seriously if any of us were as wrong as tanguay would we still have our job???

Generally speaking, TV/radio have the worst journalists of the media panorama. The best are in magazines and newspapers.
It happens in the US, it happens in Portugal, it happens everywhere,

1) offending one of the most educated fan bases in sports;

2) misinforming those fans who do not invest as heavily in detailed knowledge but nontheless is owed accurate intelligent reporting;

he should be removed from his position and put on fishing or something. nice work, chris

I like him for his play by play broadcasting and analysis – that’s where he truly shines.

but his main purpose is to be a rodeo clown.

Great work Chris. I hope when he is googling his name later tonight (like he usually does. I’d bet on it) that this article shows up.

But… Call me crazy: i believe we are going to sign Joe Johnson next summer. Maybe with a complicated sign and trade, i don’t know, but my guts believing in JJ

Vey interesting information.

It’s clear he has no idea what the rules are but I do believe he is being fed some info from the c’s. let’s just say that the trade the c’s make at the deadline includes perk and davis for an expiring/s. If PP opts out and C’s renounce then the c’s have 34-38 mill. in salary cap to sign PP and other FA to 5 year deals.

as much as I would like to believe Paul would opt out and resign for the vets min, Ray too
Not so sure they would leave that much on the table.

ok Jeff say Paul opts out, we resign ray to 3 mil a year for 3 years, and pull J>Johnson out of Atlanta for 17-20 mil, putting us back up to cap numbers, could we them use the mle on pierce?

Either way I see pursuing Johnson or Wade (not likely) and resigning Ray on the cheap as a 6-7th man as the goal, no matter the tax. Easily making us the team to beat.
Lebron would have to go to the Lakers making their 6-7 men artest and odum, just to compete, the thought tho is bone chilling

Yet another example of why Celticsblog is the only place I go to for intelligent and realistic discussion of trade scenarios involving the Celtics.

but cant the celtics just go over the cap and pay the luxury tax. i dont think any team in the nba is under the cap

The only way we realistically could gain cap space is if Paul Pierce opted out of his contract, and immediately signed with the Celtics for a vastly reduced amount. (An immediate signing is necessary to eliminate his cap hold).

So Roy Hobbs’ explaination says exactly what Tanguay is saying. Pierce opts out and immediately signs a team friendly contract, therefore reducing his cap-hold to the new contract amount. What am I missing? Lets say Pierce signs a 5yr/$35m deal. So you save $14m from Pierce in 2011. Renounce everybody else, trade BBD & draft pick, and now your at $46.1m. Add the min “cap hold” on the other roster spots ($3.2m), and you are at $49.1m. Still not enough under the cap to make a play at one of the top tiers, but Tanguay is correct about Pierce opting out and resigning, saving the celts a ton of cap space.
Now if you want to get crazy and trade ’Sheed for an expiring contract, before the deadline, then your in the $42m range, which may get it done.

Simply a great job on this Chris…

Tanguay is a dink… too bad I am addicted to 98.5 now thanks to T&R and Felgy/Maz!

At this point, unless there is a large multi-team trade that happens, I simply don’t see the team making major changes until KGs’ contract expires (or we trade his away).

I’m not a betting man but I won’t be surprised if we let Ray play out this year then use Bird rights to sign him to a 2 year deal at around 7 or 8 per. It doesn’t get us under but at least reduces the overage by around $10M. And it will expire with KGs deal. It will be tough to grind out 2011 if these guys don’t stay healthy, but at that point we’ll have a ton of expirings that we can deal or wait to get rid of and use after 2012.

Ainge has said all along that the only way they get a top-tier FA this summer is through a S&T. So while Tanguay may not have his numbers right, he may have heard something about the Celts going after Johnson this summer. Tanguay is trying to make the cap numbers work, while Ainge is thinking S&T.

Do we know when Pierce has to accept/decline his option? Is there a window after the season is over, where we can trade his $21m salary, and then he “opts out”, and resigns with the Celtics? Has anybody discussed that scenario? Probably not possible, but worth exploring.

If Atlanta/Cleveland/Miami are resigned to the fact that there is no way in hell they retain their player, they would be better off doing a S&T that nets them no additional salary, and allows them to get back into the FA playing field right away, while also netting some draft picks.

Scenario: Celts S&T Pierce & 2 1st rounders for Johnson. Pierce immediately opts out of contract. ATL renounces his rights. Pierce resigns with Celts for MLE after 30 day window.

…scenario last fall?

It appears the article on CSNNE.com has been taken down. Hopefully he is going to drop this idea. It would be nice if he would actually address it, to let those who do not come to this site that its not happening, but I can certainly settle for him stopping spreading these rumors.