Time to move Sheed
by DRJ1 on Feb 8, 2010 7:15 AM EST
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PrintThere are quite a few teams out there looking for a reasonably-priced big. It's time to shop Sheed. Yes, that means we may have to go into the playoffs with no true backup for Perk... but (a) it's possible we can still acquire one, and (b) having no backup for Perk is preferable to the toxicity of having Sheed play for this team.
When one player as highly visible as Sheed runs so completely out of control, it cannot help but negatively affect the whole team. Doc's lost control of Sheed, and he risks losing control of the whole team if he continues to let him play. Have you noticed the Sheed-like changes in Perk's game recently? That's just a sample.
And there's no reason to think Sheed will ever come under control... defined as playing where they tell him to play (post, not the 3pt line), helping on D like they need him to help (rotations, backup on penetrations), and working like they want him to work (like he gives a damn). The team has no levers to pull with this guy. He's got a guaranteed contract for 2 + 1-player-option years, and that's the end of his career. There's no way to motivate him. Meanwhile, his play is atrocious and toxic. Like a tumor, he needs to get cut out.
No doubt some will argue that Sheed's production numbers are ok. His offensive production, indeed, has not been awful, if you're looking only at points scored. But his scoring - which is not great, just adequate - comes at the expense of a LOT of missed shots... the man is shooting about 40% overall, and less than 30% on 3s. That's a lot of lost scroring opportunities... equivalent to even more TOs than the team currently racks up per game.
And his attitude is horrible. His defense... beyond pushing back at the big bigs... is too often non-existent. Once the opposing big (e.g., Howard) starts his move to the basket, Sheed can do nothing but foul. And FORGET about finding Sheed as backup on penetrations and in the rotations. He's never there. Add to that his non-existent effort on rebounding (the man never jumps or bends at the waist)... and what's left? What's he good at, except maybe yelling at refs and accumulating techs?
Re trade: I'm assuming there's no trade clause in Sheed's contract... this is not something he or his agent would have pressed for, because it was probably unthinkable at the time.
Sometimes in life, you have to admit your mistake, take the hit, and move on. This is looking like one of those times. Either move Sheed, or put him away. But stop playing him like he's a productive asset or something... he's not. He's totally toxic to this team. But tell you what... you can let him play again whenever we face Toronto. Those are the only games for which he wakes up. And you can add that to the long list of mysteries surrounding this, the most frustrating player in NBA history.
Be respectful and keep it clean. Thanks.
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Wow..how many Rasheed bashing post are we going to have?
I just do not get why Rasheed is the most popular player to bash when other bench players I think are playing worse this year and contributing less (e.g. Baby, House,Scal, Williams).
For all that Sheed is faulted for, like lack of help defense, rebounding (mostly due to hanging on the perimeter) etc. etc. , Sheed is still our best big man off the bench.
He is with all his faults is still better than Baby, Scal and Williams.
Until the C’s acquire another big man Sheed is the best big (and only center) we got..
If you trade or get rid of anybody on the team its some of the above players first I think before Sheed since he is producing more than they are.
I by no means am saying Sheed is perfect but with all his faults (every single one of them) their is no denying in my opinion he is helping this team more than he is not since:
He is one of our best low post scorer.
(Which this team lacks and needs more of)
He is one of our best low post defenders
(e.g. look at the job he does on Howard, Bynum, Shaq this year).
He is our 2nd best shooting big man behind KG.
(Not counting Scal)
He is our best 3 point shooting big man.
(Not counting Scal).
He is our leading scorer off the bench.
He also provides the big weapon of spreading the floor with his 3 point shooting (even when he is not shooting well ) and forcing his defenders (like shot blocker Howarad, Shaq and Bynum) to go out and defend him leaving Rondo and Pierce clear lanes to the basket to score.
Rasheed may not be contributing as expected when we signed him or maybe to expectations to some fans, but he is still contributing to this team for all the reasons mentioned above.
Does he need to improve his play, of course, but he is not alone since alot of other players on this team need to do so also.
Now to get rid of Rasheed and to go into the playoffs with just Baby and Williams as our back up centers is like commiting suicide, since we saw how not having a back up center last year hurt us down low when opposing centers would over power us..
Also it would be silly to get rid of Rasheed when one of the reasons Ainge got him was to help us match up better against Orlando in the play offs who has Howard, Cleveland who has Shaq and LA who has Bynum who Rasheed has a history of all playing so well.
I prefer we keep Rasheed for the above important reason and acquire a athletic big man (like TyrusThomas, Marcus Camby etc.) via trade or buyout signing to platoon at center with Rasheed,
(It would make non Sheed fans happy also since his playing time would be reduced) .
That way we can use the Rasheed to play against the power game when we need him against the power centers and Thomas/Camby against the younger, faster more athletic centers that Rasheed would have trouble matching up against.
Bottom line, Rasheed for all the reasons I mention above helps this team currently, will do so more so in the playoffs and is a player worth having on the bench.
We've had this conversation before
And you make a couple of good points. He is scoring well enough. But the cost is great. Since he’s shooting 40%/30%, we’re missing a lot of scoring opportunities. To say nothing of rebounds and defense, etc.
The thing is, this team is good enough to go all the way. The talent is there. The problem they have is focus and motivation (as evidenced by the 36 point Q3 they allowed vs. Orlando). And that’s where Sheed’s influence is most toxic. The recent changes in Perk are very Sheed-like… and might easily be ascribed to Sheed’s influence. I don’t think you can have a top-6 player on your team, a vet, who is sleepwalking through EVERY game and not have that negatively influence the entire team’s focus and motivation level.
So that’s the key… get rid of Sheed because he’s a cancer at the heart of the team, not for talent reasons. No team, and especially not the Celtics, is going to win it all without great focus and great motivation. Ubuntu. Sheed’s the antithesis of that, and therefore should be cut out now, while we still have a chance.
Respectfully Disagree
Rasheed is not shooting that bad overall from the floor inside and out.
Lets look at the facts:
Rasheed is shooting at 40%overall from the floor , “considering” he is a big man who shoots alot of 3’s thats not a bad .
His overall shooting % from the floor is 40 , better than House overall shooting % at 39%.
He does need to improve his 3 point % and take less 3 point shots, but that is another matter.
Keep in mind Rasheed is one of our best low post shooters, since he probably must have something like a 50-60 shooting % in the low post, which make him the best shooting big man in the low post on this team along with Perk.
So I think your argument he is a poor shooter is unjustified and has more to do with Sheeds taking more 3’s then he should which causes his shooting % to drop.
I agree his rebounding must improve but his numbers are low keep in mind because he hovers out in 3 point land and not under the basket.
Those numbers can improve if he were to get closer to the basket, which we may not want him to do since he spreads the floor when he is on the perimeter and opens things up for other players to penetrate to the basket.
I disagree he is a cancer etc. etc.
I think Doc, Ainge, KG , Allen and Pierce would not of wanted him last summer if this was the case and would call him out now if it were.
Rasheeds postives far outweigh his negatives and since he is the best big man we have on the team and only center, until we get anyone better I am happy we have him.
Ok
We agree that his point production is approximately at par. But 40% is not acceptable, noway, nohow. Not for a guy who’s supposed to be in the low post at least SOME of the time (most of the time, if you ask me). Can’t compare that to Eddie’s FG%, since Eddie is our designated long ball hitter.
As for this…
I think Doc, Ainge, KG , Allen and Pierce would not have wanted him last summer if this was the case and would call him out now if it were.
… they made a mistake. That’s all. Time to admit it and make the best they can of the situation. Calling him out… that’s real tricky with a guy like Sheed. He could shut down ENTIRELY, like he did in Detroit. The guy simply doesn’t care, and there’s no way now to change that.
Another point of agreement, no doubt, is that it’s a difficult situation. There are no great answers. The one good one – that Sheed will turn it around, at least for the playoffs – is looking more and more remote (though not out of the question).
A more important measure of his shot efficacy would be his True Shooting %
which is about .51 right now.
That is down for his career, which is around .54 (good for 248th all time! :-D).
He really sucked in Nov and Dec both from FG% and 3PT% and of course TS%. In January he was much, much better in both so his TS% has been on the rise.
All that said, it is probably missing the mark to focus criticism of Sheed on his offensive contributions. On offense the team does okay when Sheed is in there. On defense, it depends on who he is playing with. With the starters, in place of KG, they don’t do as well on defense. Their net point differential gives up a lot by not having KG in there. On the other hand, Sheed seemed to team extremely well defensively last fall on the second team when teamed with Shelden in the paint.
At any rate, overall, his minutes so far have been more positive than any of our other bigs off our bench. Of all our bench players, so far only Eddie has a better Net48 than Sheed. ‘Not saying he couldn’t do better. But fordescort has a point when he wonders why not pick on BBD, Scal & Shelden when they are doing less with their minutes?
Personally, I think more than anything, we need stable rotations for a while. This team is too out of wack.
Most of the top teams have played rotations consisting purely of their top6 players for between 1000-1200 minutes by now. The Celtics are barely above 900 minutes with their top6, due to injuries to KG & Pierce. That’s a significant drop-off in on-the-floor talent (considering our #7 guy (Daniels) has been gone for most of the season as well).
About BBD, Scal & Shelden
Davis is improving… just hitting his stride now, it seems.
But my surprise is about the other two: Scal and Shelden get minutes?
Again for a big man that takes alot of 3's
40% shooting percentage is not bad and does not warrant all this criticism.
Keep in mind if Doc puts him in the low post his shooting % would probably be the highest on the team since he is one of our best low post scorers.
If you want to criticize, then criticize Doc for not designing plays for Rasheed offensively in the low post.
But I think that would fall on deaf ears since Doc from past comments as stated he has no problem with Rasheed taking 3’s (I repeat wants him to, even though many fans do not) since it spreads the floor and opens up the offense for other players to penetrate to the basket.
I disagree about the big 3 and Doc should admit signing Rasheed was a mistake.
That would only be true if they believed it was the case and publicly said it and we have not seen any public evidence of that so far.
As for Davis, Eddie, Scal
Those guys WORK HARD. Especially Davis lately… who seems to be coming back. Eddie is a terrific ubuntu guy… really motivated and energetic… who yes, has his ups and downs. None of those guys is toxic like Sheed. That’s the difference. I don’t think we absolutely NEED any trade. I think this team is talented enough as is to go all the way. The problem is motivation and focus. If you could personify that problem, you’d be looking right into the face of Rasheed Wallace.
I would rather have
for the sake of argument a player who is less energetic and lazy like Sheed who at least helps the club and produces on the floor then players who have energy and are not lazy that do not help the club like House, Scal and Baby.
There we completely disagree
I feel exactly the opposite. Because those guys can, and probably will, turn things around. Davis is already doing it. Eddie too for the past couple of games. (Scal’s not worth talking about… but he did have that major shoulder injury.) Sheed’s attitude, on the other hand, is likely intractable. You’ll never fix something you don’t recognize as broken.
Disagree
So its ok for House, Baby and Scal who have been in a slump all year and have contributed far less to the team then Sheed, to play bad,
and we can say to them its ok guys we will give you more time to snap out of it..
But regarding Rasheed who has and is producing far more better on the court than House, Scal and Baby this year, we do not give him a chance to improve and want to dump him ASAP.
Thats a double standard I think.
And btw, you're right
…about the “piling on” effect of anti-Sheed posts. There’s something unnerving about that (in the sense that crowds tend to be wrong). But… in this case, I’m convinced that it’s for good reason. Sheed’s gotta go. Keeping him is like not excising a tumor growing in your gut. It will continue eating you up from the inside until you do.
I am not saying such posts
are not warranted.
Sheed deserves critism no doubt andneeds to step up his game like many others on theteam.
I just think their are far to many anti Sheed posts when the criticism’s of other players on this team are warranted as well.
I'm just wondering how many of them are coming from you, DRJ1
As fordescort says, Sheed is worthy of criticism, but you seem to have made it a personal crusade.
Well... count em
It’s not personal, Sonny… it’s strictly business.
Still, if it were me…. I’d make him an offer he can’t refuse.
Sheed`s influence is amazing....
I knew he would bring his lazy, apathetic attitude to Boston….but, I never thought he could influence the entire team to adjust and adopt into his anti-ubuntu spirit!
He is to the 2010 Celtics what Sidney Wicks was to the 1978 Celtics!
You're funny
Just off an assumption (like it or not, that’s all it is from a fan), you’re willing to tell me our problems are all Rasheed’s fault? That he’s the reason to suck? And you want to trade him? For WHO? Why do people rarely ever say who they want to trade him for?
He’s not a tumor. I’m not in love with using tough words that imply a standout that doesn’t exist; simply, there’s a lot of blame to go around for this team. Why trade Sheed? Why not trade BBD too? All I hear is about how he’s too short, too whiny, and…gasp too lazy. Too fat just seemed too easy. No one cared about the fact he wasn’t getting his jumpshot either.
Heck, despite all this, everyone seems to want a trade Ray (I MIGHT for Martin and Iguodala, with the comfort that it’s not my call, anyways), but I’m sure he’s working hard. : \
And this quote almost tells me you never liked Sheed in the first place, although I won’t assume:
“The thing is, this team is good enough to go all the way. The talent is there. The problem they have is focus and motivation (as evidenced by the 36 point Q3 they allowed vs. Orlando). And that’s where Sheed’s influence is most toxic.”
So you’re basically blaming Sheed for what happened when he wasn’t on the court in the 3rd until the game was tied (which meant we blow a 11 point halftime lead, thanks starters) but don’t want to give him credit for what happened in the 2nd quarter when he was on the court, when the bench scored 14 of the Celtics’ 27 2nd quarter points while limiting the Magic to only 17. Like I said, if you’re only willing to blame Sheed for that loss, then I repeat, maybe you never liked Sheed in the first place and now you’re trying to feel validated.
Offensively, I’d also like Sheed to not camp behind the 3-pt line if he doesn’t have it, which I admit hasn’t been often this season. I’ve said this multiple times. But, as far as that, he has posted up at times, and it’s hard to say either way whether he’s being asked to camp behind the 3-pt line at time or if he is just being lazy. Still, that doesn’t mean that he’s our biggest problem. Doing bad by itself is still a problem, but not a “he’s a tumor, trade him now” problem.
The way you post, I’d have thought Sheed took 8 3’s in the game and made none (even if the latter is still true). He only took 2 (even if one attempt, the one he made, was basically on the 3-pt line instead of outside it).
I feel a lot of frustration in this post. I’m waiting for people to say to just trade our entire bench.
Actually, I liked Sheed, and defended him
…when others were attacking. It’s in the record (take my word for it… don’t wanna hunt it all down).
The quote about the 36 point Q3 I kept short to not repeat what I had posted elsewhere. I guess it was too incomplete. Here’s the complete point…..
It’s a question of will – not talent, health, or age. The reason I can be quite sure of that is related to something Doc said post-game. He said (paraphrasing now) that "they could have scored ZERO points in that 3rd quarter (and that would have been something he could accept) but they should NEVER have have allowed 36 points. That was unacceptable."
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You can have a bad game. Your shot can be off (see Allen, Ray). But if you do your job… the job they know perfectly well how to do… you can still win on the strength of your defense. That’s the whole point of being a "defensive team". It’s smart, and it wins championships. But…. you gotta actually DO it. If you take a quarter off, as the Cs did, and let the other team — in this case a well-known 3s-shooting club — run riot… well, you’re gonna lose.
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So my need, my urgency, to trade and trade is not great. This team is ready… it needs to be better motivated. It needs focus. But it can go all the way as constituted.
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However, if motivation and focus are the issues, there is one player they need to get rid of. And that would be Sheed. Because that guy is toxic to this team… he’s the least motivated, he’s a vet, and he’s in the top 6. If anybody’s pulling motivation out of this team, he’s suspect #1. Perk’s recent Sheed-like changes attest to that.
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So… bottom line… other than getting rid of Sheed, I don’t think there’s a strong urgency to make a major move. Adding a backup PG would be nice. Another wing guy to spell PP, sure. But it’s not a sine qua non.
I’m not specifying a trade… just making the point that the team should try to move Sheed. Davis is fat, yes, and short too. But he’s working hard and is certainly NOT toxic… the effort is there, certainly in the past couple of games, indicating he’s coming back.
And Sheed’s laziness is not limited to his camping out at the 3-pt-line, refusing to post up. It’s in the way he won’t jump for rebounds, or bend. And in the fact that he is almost NEVER there on rotations or backing up our defenders on penetrations. It’s his entire lazy on-court persona… trying to work as little as possible. He’s the only trade I think this team needs because his continued presence is so toxic.
He’s even undermining Doc’s authority and ability to motivate the team… by his continual refusal to follow Doc’s game plan. When one player is so potentially damaging, try to move him out. It might not be possible, but they need to find out.
I just don't get
How you can post stuff like:
It’s his entire lazy on-court persona… trying to work as little as possible. … his continued presence is so toxic. … He’s even undermining Doc’s authority and ability to motivate the team… by his continual refusal to follow Doc’s game plan.
without qualifying in big red letters that all that is just your imagined suppositions?
Do you have transcripts of Doc’s explicit instructions to Sheed?
And I note that you did not respond to Tai’s explicit points about just WHO was on the floor during the various phases of the Orlando game.
I think DRJ1 is simply basing his opinion on watching Sheed play, which we have all witnessed. So he is averaging double digit in points. What else is he doing to help the team, based on his play and not speculation of what is going on off the court or in the locker room? He is not rebounding, he is shooting a low percentage, he is not posting low despite his size and he cannot move laterally. Two years ago, the team was hungry and got it down. Last year the team showed great courage and heart in the playoffs despite playing without KG and Powe. This year we add Sheed and it all changes. I am not naive to think Sheed is the sole problem, but there is some cause and effect, as well as some precedent (see Detroit the last 2 years).
Oh..
And by that statement, I mean I’d be happy if people suggested to trade our entire bench (outside of Sheed), cause then it would imply people want to spread the blame around instead of blaming it on one person.
Exactly
If you look at the efficiency of our players both in terms of individual Net48 and of the various 5-man units – the drop off from the starters to the bench is pretty attrocious.
Their is hope. The one bench rotation that was truly effective was way back when Daniels was playing. He did look good in very limited minutes on Sunday. Maybe he can help jump start things.
And this does not mean that I blame Sheed alone for our losses
That would be nuts. What I’m saying is that this team IS good enough in terms of talent to go all the way. Motivation and focus are the problems. Therefore, the only trade I feel strongly about is any that moves Sheed out of town… because I do blame him for the lazy, unmotivated, uncooperative (anti-ubuntu) attitude he has come to personify.
Rather than respond to every post
I’ll just do it with one.
My point was never that Sheed was responsible for the loss on Sunday. That would be silly, as it was obviously a team-wide phenomenon. So going thru who was on the floor and when is a waste of time… not relevant to the point here.
The point I am making relates to how Sheed is playing. Some of it reflects in the stats, and some of it does not. Defensively, his stats do reflect his poor effort. Even so, more important to me is WATCHING him (a) be late or absent on his rotations, (b) be absent entirely on most of his backup duties, where he’s supposed to step up to stop opponents’ penetrations, but never does, © refuse to fight for rebounds, beyond stretching his arms up, (d) push back at opposing bigs, only to allow them easy paths around him, whereupon his only defense is a final slap, which usually results in a foul call. No stat line can tell you as much as watching this guy play.
On offense… tell me this: Why does Sheed EVER shoot a 3 under pressure? He NEVER hits them. Not exaggerating there… he literally NEVER hits a 3 under pressure, unless it’s by sheer dumb luck (a 5 year old can hit a 3 every 20-30 or so tries just by dumb luck).
And as for Doc’s input… he did say that he wants Sheed to take 3s when it’s the right shot, in part to spread the floor when it needs spreading. He also said he wants him in the post too. If you really believe that Doc wants Sheed to take as many 3s as he’s taking, then I guess you think Doc’s lost his mind altogether, because there’s no other way he would want that.
This failure to hardly ever be inside fits easily into the “lazy” mold Sheed’s created for himself.
I don’t know, guys… it seems pretty obvious that Sheed is playing very lazy basketball out there. This is one of those things you can easily SEE just by watching him. I think that’s why so many fans have turned against him… his problems glare. You don’t need a stat sheet to see them. We expected more, much more, from this guy. Even as you defend him, you CAN’T be happy with him… which, actually, you have said.
I guess we can disagree on whether he merits a dump or not… but surely we can agree that for any team, it’s very hard, probably impossible, to win a championship without a full effort from its top 7-8 guys. Adequate is not going to get it done for us, not from our #6 guy. And as for whether he is influencing the team negatively… that part is of course conjecture. But the team has lacked focus and motivation in their lapses – and that’s exactly what Sheed lacks all the time. It’s not much of a leap.
once again
On offense… tell me this: Why does Sheed EVER shoot a 3 under pressure? He NEVER hits them. Not exaggerating there… he literally NEVER hits a 3 under pressure, unless it’s by sheer dumb luck (a 5 year old can hit a 3 every 20-30 or so tries just by dumb luck).
Again, you like to state as facts things that your subjective eyes are telling you. It may be true – but pardon me if I’d prefer to defer to statistics. Do you have any objective numbers to confirm the above? Oh wait – you’ve given yourself an out. If the numbers don’t match your statements (i.e. if he HAS made 3-pt shots under pressure – you’ve already chalked it up to ‘sheer dumb luck’).
You keep harping on Sheed’s offensive shortcomings – yet the team’s offensive efficiency is not worse with Sheed than with KG. I therefore am losing my faith in your ability as an objective observer.
Perhaps if you focused on his defensive shortcomings?
Actually
I’m harping more on his defensive deficiencies. I’ve agreed that his overall point output is ok… albeit at the cost of too many shot attempts.
Can’t back up the “under pressure” observation because there’s no stat for that. But you know what I mean, and you know it’s true. The few 3pt shots he does make are the open ones… the ones Doc is talking about when he says he should take em when they’re there.
"But you know what I mean, and you know it’s true"
Nope. It might be, but I don’t know that.
We are repeating ourselves but...
Rasheed for all the faults he legitly has and for the sake of argument all the ones you say he has, the bottom line is he still helps this team since:
He is still the only back up center we have on the roster
He is still the best big man on our bench.
He is still produces more on the floor then Baby, Scal and Williams have.
He is still the best outside scoring big man on our bench (not counting Scal).
He Is still the best low post scoring big man on our bench.
So for all the above reasons and until we get a better big man for the bench (e.g. Tyrus Thomas) Rasheed is the best we have and I for one am glad we have him
Note that you're mostly pointing at offense
And this is a “defense first” team, by definition (per Doc and everybody else). Even you must admit that Sheed’s laziness on defense is, well… indefensible.
But it’s clear we aren’t going to agree on Sheed. Not if you think the Cs can win a championship with Sheed playing at his current level. (as below)
Actually I think Rasheeds defense is one of the best parts of his game
Yes he is lazy (I have said it before) with help defense and must improve that part of his game, but his one on one defense is great.
He is one of our best low post power defenders, just look how well he played Howard, Shaq and Bynum recently as proof, he really worked hard and busted his butt defending them.
So you can say Rasheeds help defense is lazy, but I do not think you can say his one on one defense on power centers is lazy as he has proved.
But again we can agree to disagree as you correctly say.
Come on, he was good on Howard?
Sheed pushed him around real good (which, btw, was GREAT to see… finally a glimmer of life in Sheed). But Howard was able to walk around him anytime he felt like it… right to the rim. And the only answer Sheed has was a foul. Really, that’s what actually happened.
Ford, m -- do you agree with this?...
…with the following statement:
This team cannot win the championship with Sheed playing at his current level.
No.
Even as a truism it is a valueless statement. You can substitute multiple names from the roster into same statement (Pierce, KG, Ray, Perk, most of the bench). For a variety of reasons.
It is easier to find names who I wouldn’t put in there – Rondo and Tony are about the only guys who have upped their game this year and are playing at a level that, for their role on the team – is ‘championship caliber’.
You're right about multiple names
Ray, KG, Paul, Perk… almost every major name could be plugged into that sentence and it would be true. But that doesn’t make it valueless. It’s interesting that you still disagree with the statement. If that’s right… well, we will never agree about Sheed. And only time will tell.
On another note…. Maybe I’m imagining things, but the air smells like a big change is coming. The next week or so should be interesting.
No
Because he is doing his job.
Last year we did not have a back up center, this year we do with Sheed.
Last year we were being overpowered offensively in the low post by centers when Perk went to the bench, this year thanks to Sheed we are not.
Last year we did not have a back up big man to score in the low post this year we do with Sheed.
Last year we did not have a back up big man who was a outside shooting threat , who could spread the floor and draw out centers and open up penetration lanes for Rondo and Pierce this year we do with Sheed.
Also I have repeated this many times but it worth repeating again,
Rasheed was probably signed by the C’s in order to help them match up against the 3 centers that we will probably have to go through to in order to win a championship that being Howard, Shaq and Bynum.
When the playoffs come and it becomes a1/2 court power game and we will have to go up against those 3 big, bad dudes I for one will be glad we have Sheed (who has a history of playing all 3 of them very well defensively) on the bench to throw at them.
So for that reason alone (but also for the above ones also) I think if anything Rasheed helps get us closer to a title this year not farther.
I will say though and think most will agree, that if the team as whole does not improve their current level of play we will not win a title this year.
Ok, then
It’s clear. There’s no chance for us to agree on Sheed’s game. Because I am 100% convinced that the Cs CANNOT win a championship if (a) Sheed plays at his current level, and (b) he continues to get the PT he’s currently getting. That, gentlemen, is as close to impossible as we can get.
We agree to disagree
And obviously, I hope you are proven right and I have to eat my words. It could actually happen, if Sheed suddenly turns it all around for the playoffs, for example. (But then he wouldn’t be playing like he is now… but never mind that.) I would love for that to happen. It’s just that it’s looking less and less likely…..
Agree
Rasheed must step up his level of play even though we disagree on if his current play merits so much criticism to the point the C’s should get rid of him.
Its a fun debate hopefully he and the rest of the C’s will step up their games and this will all be a mute point.
Hopefully also the C’s can pick up another big man at the trade deadline or by buy out signing (like Tyrus Thomas or Marcus Camby etc.) and can platoon him with Sheed to help him out.
Lets see what happens..
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- LeBron James hints that he’d like to be welcomed back as a Cleveland Cavalier
- The Phoenix Suns refuse to dismantle their team because of … we can’t tell
- Video: Matt Barnes is legitimately upset with former coach Mo Cheeks
- Yao Ming discusses Jeremy Lin as eloquently as you’d expect
- Paul George (and Jeremy Lin, essentially) will highlight this year’s Dunk Contest
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