Rasheed: The Team is "Bored"
by IBleedGreen18 on Mar 1, 2010 10:09 AM EST
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PrintThe Celtics haven't been themselves lately and Rasheed Wallace said after their shocking loss to the Nets on Saturday that the team is "bored."
"No matter if we're bored or not, shoot, you still gotta go out and play the game the right way and get wins," Wallace said.
Even before Saturday's loss to New Jersey, Kendrick Perkins said that the regular season simply wasn't exciting.
"It's different [the 2007-08 season], guys are really anxious to get to the playoffs," Perkins said. "You've got veteran guys -- Rasheed, [Kevin Garnett] -- you can tell the regular season, it really don't excite them. Even with Paul [Pierce] and Ray [Allen], but you still gotta go out there and compete, it's not an excuse for losing. Guys just really want to get to crunch time."
Bored? Really? A championship caliber team doesn't get bored of going out and competing every night, do they?
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I don't buy into that.
"The idea is not to block every shot. The idea is to make your opponent believe that you might block every shot." - Bill Russell
Yes, intimidation is one of the keys to domination and victory.
It's not over!
Let’s not give up on are Celts yet!
I looked at the schedule, and they CAN win the next 7 games before facing the Cavs again in Cleveland.
I still think the problems are more mental than ability/talent or age.
No excuse for losing to the Nets!
by Designer C on Mar 1, 2010 1:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well, it sure seems like it
The aura the Celtics give off exemplifies boredom. Perk and Sheed know better than I do, and I gotta agree with them. However, that is no excuse and I will not accept “boredom” as an excuse for losing basketball games. The last time I checked, every member of the Celtics is under a contract in the NBA. I expect maximum effort from every single player night in and night out. No excuses.
Yes, they can get bored
… of the endless grind of back-to-backs and the overstuffed schedule of 82 games, all of which amount to less than a hill of beans in the end. They can get bored because IT’S BORING! They’re itching for the playoffs, and why shouldn’t they?
But hey, I understand the fans’ frustrations. Fans pay good money to see their team win. From that (capitalist) POV, the team is wrong to be bored, wrong not to play their hardest every night.
But if they win the championship, I suspect you might forgive them their regular season boredom.
The NBA should just cancel its regular season
At the beginning of the year there should be a panel selected to choose the 16 playoff teams. They can then proceed immediately to the playoffs. This way, these guys making zillions of dollars a year won’t have to go through the pain of being bored by the regular season. In addition, we season ticketholders who shell out thousands of dollars every year won’t have to be burdened by paying to watch games in which players are bored and don’t care.
Two things: This line of thought makes me sick, and the players on this team, especially those going public with the “bored” storyline, are in complete denial about the fact that they are no longer on an elite team.
FTW
"The idea is not to block every shot. The idea is to make your opponent believe that you might block every shot." - Bill Russell
Yes, intimidation is one of the keys to domination and victory.
by Marjun Raposon on Mar 1, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
The NBA is certainly sick
The system is very, very bad. No wonder they’re losing $400 million/year. These players make too much money, and they’re often guaranteed their salaries for several years, which is COMPLETELY RIDICULOUS. Best we can hope for is that the new CBA will change a lot of that.
If their salaries were tied in some way to their performance – even by simply limiting guarantees – you wouldn’t see players getting “bored”. As it is, they can’t be blamed. They’re just playing in the sick system others created.
But right now, no one really knows if they’re still elite or not. We won’t know until the playoffs arrive.
Oh, and they should certainly cut down on the number of games
….in the regular season. 82 – with all the back-to-backs, many of which are on the road – is way too many.
Bored
I thought i was bored with my crappy job.but this is to much these bums are bored playing basketball. Making millions . This makes me sick.
by celtsfan1 on Mar 1, 2010 11:42 AM EST via mobile reply actions
in all fairness
if we were making several millions playing basketball and were anxious for the playoffs/fearing injury… we’d probably be bored with the process too…
Mr. Wallace
Having been around the Globe chat room since the Pitino days and having followed the Celtics since the 65 season, I have made it a practice never to be a “boo bird” but to always root for the team. Being a Celtics fan is one of the ways we get through the miserable winters in New England. Saturday’s game was the first game I haven’t watched in years. I was at the Garden for the last Nets game and I was at the Garden on Thursday night Cleveland game.
I have a bill on my desk for $4680 for half this year’s playoff tickets and for a half season ticket for next year. I would have found a way to pay that off no matter what. Watching Mr. Wallace warm up before Thursday night’s game, showed me how much he cares. He would shoot two balls at once. He would shoot lefthanded three’s. He’s bored. I’m bored. I’m bored hearing about 72 wins. I’m bored with his antics. I’m bored with his lack of defense 95 percent of the time.
We thought we were replacing Posey and PJ in one fell swoop with this guy. What we got was a lazy clown for 3 years and I’ll be damed if I’m giving him $5000. Grow up Mr. Wallace and maybe you can help this team for the rest of the year.
I am looking at a $7,000 plus bill for the playoffs and half-season package next year
And I am on the fence about renewing. If they are going to be bored, I am seriously considering dumping my tickets. This line of thinking is a disgrace.
I agree
after the crap I have sat through at the “garden” this season against teams like the Nets and the 3rd quarter against the magic, and the 4th quarter against the cavs, I’m considering not going to any more of the regular season games this year, and I’m definitely not renewing season tickets. It will be cheaper just to buy playoff tickets from stubhub from now on. If they are bored, they can play to an empty arena for all I care.
It's been said before ...
… but this smacks of those Detroit teams (of which Rasheed was a member) who had this sense of entitlement that, since they won one championship, they could just cruise through the regular season and then “turn it on” during the playoffs.
How many more titles did that strategy end up earning them, I ask you?
Seriously, this roster seems to be doing everything in their power to make themselves as unlikeable as possible (both for opponents AND their fanbase) … If they could only use that energy for something more useful, like – oh, I don’t know – winning regular season games against teams like the Nets :(
Can't turn it on is more like it
Sheed is too old and out of shape. He thinks he can turn it on wheneve he wants……I think he is a bad influence.
Too bad tickets aren't sold solely on a game-by game basis,
and players aren’t paid based on gate receipts.
Then the overpaid crybabies would have a chance to see how many fans are interested in paying money to see the poor, bored players.
David Stern: add to agenda of next CBA discussion.
"People don't understand, if you can't live the rest of your life off one year in the NBA, you can't live off 21." -- Keon Clark
Great idea
That would be a lot closer to good capitalism than the nonsense they have now. ‘Course, it’s not gonna happen. But what is on the table is not bad… NBA wants to reduce the amount of each contract that can be guaranteed – from the 100% it’s at now, to 50%. Great move, if it happens. They also want to reduce the maximum length of guaranteed contracts, to 2-3 years. And reduce the players’ percentage of total income. All these changes, among others, are on the table, and all have naturally been rejected by the players. But there’s hope, at least.
The current structure of the NBA is seriously sick. Whether you think the Cs’ handling of this season is part of their plan or not, a good idea or not…. the fact that players can be BORED is a testament to how sick the NBA’s structure really is. If you want to motivate people, you can’t guarantee their pay with no regard to actual performance. Capitalism 101.
But he could end up the Cs' Tin Man
…and find his heart, for the playoffs. If he fails in that, melt him down for siding.
Weird I thought perk was
The one that played worse(than befor) recently
shred is a lazy ass but we could have win some games no matter what. Most times the bench acturally played better then the starters did
by friedgreentomatoes on Mar 1, 2010 11:54 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Fans can get bored too...
and for just one game, maybe we can all just stay home and not go to the arena, and let them play before empty stands..This should revitalize them. And yes Rasheed, I am getting bored with your antics too..
I keep saying...
the problem with this team is mental. Not age, or people being hurt (well ok that has something to do with it) I can see it in the way the stand and the looks on their faces. The problem is in their heads and I think they think they can turn it on come the playoffs but my experience in psychology tells me they are conditioning themselves mentally to play at a lower level and will find they can’t just mentally “turn it on”. I hope I am wrong but I know how human nature works…
Doesn’t work this way. I’ll quote the signature of someone further up in this thread:
[quote]“The idea is not to block every shot. The idea is to make your opponent believe that you might block every shot.” – Bill Russell[/quote]
Or, to paraphrase, the 07-08 was so good not because they wanted to win every game by 20+, but because every opposing team believe they could get blown out by 30 on any given night. In contrast, this season every opposing team believes they can kick our ass, and that’s why we won’t win the championship. You’d think that players who have been in the league for 10+ yeas would have learned that.
at least they are telling the truth
fact: Boston will make playoffs.
fact: regular season has too many games
fact: too many teams make playoffs
fact: playoffs are too long
fact: nobody wants to risk injury before playoffs
fact: Boston is trying to get healthy for playoffs only
fact: only playoffs are remembered
blame the NBA, don’t blame the players.
Celtics are trying to win what you want them to win
the best way for them to do so is to just look at these remaining
regular season games as scrimmage/practice play.
Are all events repetitive?
The jury’s out… there’s no way to know now whether this will work for them, or not. We must wait and see if they can pull it off.
If everyone believed that...
… there would never be any progress, never any new ideas. Not saying we shouldn’t learn from history… we certainly should… but that adage applies to positive lessons only. It cannot be applied to negatives, such as “don’t do that because no one has ever done it and succeeded”. That’s a terrible approach, leading to nothing but monotony and decline.
Let’s just wait and see. It’s not like we have a choice anyway.
It's happened, but......
I remember complaints of boredom from the 98 Bulls and 2002 Lakers. (their three-peat seasons). Both “turned it on” during the playoffs if I recall.
As much as this team wants to THINK it’s in that class, it isn’t. We don’t have Michael or Shaq.
Regular season may not count for much, but as Bird and others have said, you need to finish the season strong to build momentum going into the playoffs.
I’m very skeptical it will happen since the flaws clearly run deeper than simply motivation (see: rebounding, interior defense, turnovers, etc.). This next stretch of games will be extremely telling of whether they can even make it out of the first round. If motivation is at all a factor, you don’t get much more of a wake-up call than losing handily to one of the wost teams in NBA history at home.
Turnovers
…are killing this team. About 25%-30% of them are completely avoidable, with just a LITTLE more focus (Scal’s recent two, Rondo’s in Q1 of the Nets game, ad nauseum.) Another 25% or so could also be avoided, with a lot more work. Overall, if they can cut them down by at least 30%, it would be huge.
98 Bulls were 62-20; 02 Lakers were 58-24
The Celtics will likely end up losing 30 or more games this year. Neitehr the 98 Bulls nor 02 Lakers were anywhere close to this poor in terms of win-loss.
Totally agree
As I said – this team isn’t in that class; just seems to think it is.
Just saying there have been teams that have (allegedly) been able to coast for part of the regular season and still win it, but this isn’t one of them.
You are correct, sir
Another big NBA problem… paying guys guaranteed money just to show up, instead of to actually do something.
Kinda does your heart good to hear this when you're spending hundreds to attend a game, doesn't it??
Back in the tanking days, Sheed, at least the players were trying. The organization wasn’t ….But the players were.
Sounds like the opposite is going on here.
Celtics are "bored"?
Yeah, and the Pistons last year also looked “bored”.
That`s odd…Sheed was a member of both squads!!!
This Team Doesn't Bore Me
In fact, I feel a sense of morbid fascination, sort of like watching Robert Shaw getting eaten by the shark in Jaws.
Please say "SPOILER ALERT"
when you’re about to ruin a movie.
Haven't earned the right to be bored!
If the team was cruising along only losing a couple of times a month then bored is reasonable. However, when the team bus is teetering on the brink, careening around mountain curves bouncing off guard rails, veering from flat tires, and missing on three cylinders—boring is just not a rational explanation. Maybe Rasheed is bored—with him it has become a chronic condition.
Brick, I agree, this team is anything but boring. Revolting, frightening, bile-inducing—but not boring.
Not going to pile on Sheed, but...
I do not buy the “bored” rationalization whether it’s him, Perk or whoever is selling. I understand players get asked questions they gotta say something, but that’s just an excuse. We didn’t look bored when we were trying to beat ATL, Orl, Cle, and the Lakers. We got beat. We looked older, less athletic and less talented.
I don’t know what the record books say, but it seems highly likely there is a strong correlation between regular season winning percentage and the NBA titles. The season is long, and every team goes through slumps to some degree. I could see the bored thing if it were a week or two, but it’s two going on three months, over one third of the season, of being a lottery team.
That sound
is coming from Red choking on his cigar somewhere.
But seriously—this just confirms the obvious—everyone on this board watches all the games just like me (I’m in DC and saw them play the Wiz 2x this season, so that’s all the live action I get) and it’s clear that the heart, desire and passion is not there. In other words, yes, they’re bored, they’ve been bored, and now it’s finally out in the open. No stunning revelation, folks.
Now, if this self-professed boredom is part of some “plan” to coast through the regular season and then turn it on for a big run in May/June then the joke is on them—and us. I’ll keep watching every game because I’m a diehard fan who watched all the games even when we were a laughingstock, but this team is not simply going to be able to crank it up and beat the likes of Atlanta, Orlando and CLE when it matters. That line of thinking is just ridiculous—and yes, offensive.
Sorry, but if I put out the effort that Sheed does at my current job, then I’d get fired. There are actual consequences for failing to do your job in the real world. It’s called being a professional—ever see Bird take a night off? The great ones never do.
by McHaleinthepost on Mar 1, 2010 12:37 PM EST reply actions
I'm sure lots of teams that know they are going to make the playoffs get bored...
they just don’t say it to the media!
"Take it to the hoop, there's a dance involved." - DJ Tommy
I'm just going to say that...
The Cavs and Lakers don’t look bored when they are playing…
by funkstarrdeluxe on Mar 1, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
Actually, the Lakers often do
Presumably because they too have a lot of flags hanging. Cavs on the other hand have none.
Lakers have the second best record in the NBA
Not bad for being bored.
But they are different
If you watch the lakers, and they look bored, they still usually win the game (or it’s close) and they still look comfortable and confident.
The celtics are looking just the opposite. You can tell from their body language that they believe something’s wrong (unless you now also add acting to their gameplan). KG is holding his head down and apologizing. They really, really look to me like they are doing their best to win.
But you’re right, none of us really knows what will happen. They could win it all this year. They may. But so could the Heat and so may the Bobcats, no one really knows for sure. It all comes down to probables. All we can do is make opinions based on facts. And from the facts I see, the celtics are more likely a team that’s trying to win but just playing poorly rather than a great team that’s just coasting to the playoffs as part of a strategy.
Question about being bored
So, if they are bored, why are they only bored for parts of games? For example, they were not bored in the first half against Cleveland, but something must have happened in the locker room to make them bored in the second half. I also assume they were not bored in first halves of the other 11 games since Christmas, for example Orlando or Atlanta, where they built nice, double-digit leads. Again, they only became bored in the second half. I wish Sheed and Perk would get the story straight. This is a team that gets bored, but mostly in the second half, unless you are playing the worst team in tthe history of the NBA. Then you are bored for the entire game.
I think this entire line of thought is ridiculous.
i dont understand why everyones blaming sheed
he was the one refuting the bored statement…
Retirements?
If everyone’s bored or injured, I wonder if we might not see some players hang it up at the end of the season. Maybe there’s too much money at stake for any of our big contracts to even consider that.
On the bright side, a couple of retirements could make things very interesting for us during the off season.
I believe the C's are still on the hook for their salary numbers for the length of the contract
Even is someone retires. Only if they are determined unable to play for physical reasons could the C’s get cap relief.
Ugh.
There’s really no out to this contractual situation, is there?
Perk's act is boring
It’s just an excuse to be embarrassed by the worst NBA team in the last 15 years. I hope there are some drastic changes after this year. For one getting rid of Rasheed.
Number 2 trading Perk next year maybe he could put together a string of more than three good games in row and he will actually be worth something. Blow it up Danny Boy!
he never even said were bored.. the headline needs to be changed on this post.
its pretty irresponsible to have that headline when he never said were bored.. as most know im certainly not a sheed fan but this is seriously irresponsible to post a headline " Rasheed says were bored" when perkins was the one who said it
Old and done
What do you expect, allen is one trick pony that doesnt do his one trick very well, pierce his hurt and garnett his showing his age. wallace is basically a cancer and its beginning to spread. the celtics got one, consider yourself lucky. if you want a team that is under rated and producing look to atlanta. if you want to hear more hit me up on rivalroo.com i’ll be on bostons page tearing them down!
Change The Headline
I’m not a Sheed fan but throwing him under the bus for responding to a question is not fair at all. The guy gets enough unfair criticism as it is. Perkins is the one that said some players were bored, not Sheed. Perkins mentioned Sheed as one of the players that might be bored with the regular season along with Ray, Paul and Kevin. So why don’t we just let the headline read, " Kevin Garnet: The Team Is ’Bored’" and see what that sparks around here.
But seriously can we just change it to something more accurate like “Perkins Calls Out Bored Teammates” ?
-Nick
Valid Point
If I could edit the published article, I’d consider that alteration… The bottom line is that we can’t have Perkins saying this stuff either!!!
by IBleedGreen18 on Mar 1, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
I would simply write "Ha!" because that's a good line, Bb33,
but, sadly, there’s too much truth in the latter portion of your pun.
-sw
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Go Celtics, Go Dodgers. -sw
by Steve Weinman on Mar 1, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe the team is bored?
Its a pretty sad if true, but hey maybe this is one valid reason (of many others also) that could really explain the C’s lack of mental focus and motivation during many games this season which has been so bewildering.
He didn't have to.
Their play speaks to it.
I harken back to a game in Rivers’ first year when he sat the whole first unit in the third quarter because they (LOL) “weren’t playing defense”. About a minute later the starters were all back in. He lost the team at that point. Particularly Blount and Payton.
Rivers has lost this team, too. He’s benching the wrong people. It appears he doesn’t have the cajones to even try what he tried with that first team. About 10 games after the great start, it became obvious. The intensity that was a trademark of this team even without Garnett was gone. They’ve played with intensity only in isolated spots.
by Finkelskyhook on Mar 1, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
horrible excuse
Insrtea of pointing fingers or making lame excuses ,let’s find responsibility and define it. Danny’s responsibility is to put the best possible product on the floor and put a coach in place that see’s the vision all same page.Did he create title 17 from sfcratch?yes.Did he slip up in the signing of Sheed ,no I believe we all thought he wouldn’t be the same way playing next to KG and we all love his versatility.He has shown he’s not willing to be in shape,play D,play in the paint,or control his emotions.Did danny slip up by not trading sheed to charlotte,imo,yes.Did he slip up by not trading ray,no by all accounts he tried. Doc’s responsibility is to handle ego’s steady the vets give them enough play not too much.He’s supposed to utilise the bench and work toward each individuals strengths by putting them in the best possible line up and scenerios.He’s supposed to manage his players all of them .manage time,subs,personalities,and his own presence on the team.IMO he’s failed on every level. The players are payed a ton of money to show up check themselves at the door respect the jersey and organisation after all its called celtic pride!I can’t question ray he gives his all,same with Paul he’s just not able to be the old paul but he gives all he has,same for KG,Perk I love but also think is impressionable. Rondo is our star and carries this team big shoulders for a lil guy,marquis plays no doubt,I think Nates hungry,I think baby genuinly cares,Sheeds a hot waste of talent.In my estimation we play hard in stretches and lose rhythm lose intensity for one because we are tired and its hard to sustain that effort for 48 for the three.That puts the responsibility even more on Doc to sub better to pay attention who’s hot ,who;s tired ,who’s hurting,who’s motivated,who’s showed up and who’s disinterested,I put squarely on him donjt forget its his job and he makes a ton of money as well
by reggie_35 on Mar 1, 2010 1:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Well you know what if this team is too bored to come out and play in front of their home goddamn fans then I will be too bored to waste my time driving out to the garden, pay my parking pay my tickets and waste my energy rooting my home team on if they dont give a shit about the game. This is a slap in the face to all of us fans, if ANY college player came out and said this they would be riding the bench the rest of the season if your bored then guess what the door to the garden is pretty damn big dont let it hit all of your bored asses on the way out!!!!!
by Nick Sannicandro on Mar 1, 2010 1:53 PM EST reply actions
nick.. college tournament
consider NCAA teams fight tooth and nail with FAR LESS GAMES
and much more difficulty in making the NCAA Tournament.
Once again, NBA League greed is the primary reason.
Better to be bored than bad.
At least that’s what the players would prefer to believe. Anything to avoid the reality of just how far they’ve sunk and how hard they’ll have to work to get back to where they were.
Better to believe that it’s something else. Protect themselves from the cold harsh truths.
Kendrick Perkins and the rest of the players are delusional. They are not bored. They’re bad.
Bored???
They should have a talk with Bill Russell and see what he thinks of being bored after winning just one title.
No Celtics team, no matter how banged up they get should lose to the worst team in NBA history
There is no Pride in this Celtic Organization any more!
Sheed is not complaining
I have not been a fan of his performance this year, but he is responding to Perk saying the team is bored.
Well doesnt Sheed's performance suggest that he, too, is bored?
Sheed has been bored and lazy all season long and this attitude has rubbed off on the other players
Bored with the same result
Bored with their string of losses and inability to play decent basketball. They should face the fact that they’re incapable of beating the better teams, not to mention one of the worst teams in basketball history.
Here is irony, ladies and gentlemen.....
As they play under their league leading 17 championship banners, the team representing the most successful franchise in NBA history loses to the worst team in NBA history.
ahaha
bored huh? well i am pretty sure we are damn bored watching this show. oh and its good to know you are bored when the garden is full every night/afternoon. ask a team with no fans how “bored” they are. this makes me sick. i rather have a team full of young exciting players that are easy to route for .It is getting really hard to cheer for guys like robinson, wallace, baby, and all of the bitching that goes on from a game to game basis. Also why does this team feel this sense of entitlement you get that by winning…. when you think you know everything thats when a dude comes up and hits you with a two by four…ie the nets
also
isnt that the most classic excuse ever for losing ne basketball game, (also the lamest). like say you lose a game of 1 on 1 to a buddy you know you are better than and you say “oh you won because i was bored” that would be the lamest thing ever and also the douchest.
Disgraceful.
Bored?? Bored??!!!!!! Over here, we fans are slaving away at school or work, wishing we could play in the NBA. These guys are bored??! If playing the game they love bores them, what do they find interesting? I’ll swap high school with Rasheed, if he finds cramming for exams exciting, I know for sure I won’t be bored up there!!!
I hate to make this comment but...
Im the biggest celtics fan in the world but…. this is one area that i admire Kobe, he after 4 rings he is still hungry! he motivates his team.
Motivation went down with KG’s knee.
Rondo calls out plays and stuff like that but, he is far from a leader! He shuts himself off during games!
I cannot believe that Danny did not bite on Jannero Pargo! Chicago was giving him for free, to save money, Pargo is a natural scoring combo guard, good defender…. his stats dont show it cause vinny only lets him shoot it 3 times a game. danny missed a good opportunity. to sign a poors man derrick rose!
I'm I the only one who's noticing...
…unless he stated it somewhere outside this quote, Sheed never actually said he was bored. He just said that if players are bored or not they have to play the right way. I don’t get it, this guy’s such a huge lightening rod whenever he opens his mouth. There’sa giant banner on CelticsBlog (and apparently on ESPN) that proudly proclaims “Sheed Is Bored!”
A healthy dose of sensationalism unless he explicitly stated, outside of the provided quote, that he was “bored.”
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Slowly but surely Danny is addressing the problem.. a PG (Robinson) to back up Rondo, a
SF/SG (Finley) to back up Pierce & Allen (remember we still have Daniels).. Adding another BIG MAN/CENTER (preferably a 6’11 or a 7 footer) would be an icing on the cake..
Depth Chart:
PG: Rondo-Robinson
SG: R. Allen-Finley-T. Allen
C : Perkins-Wallace-Big Man
SF: Pierce-Daniels-Scal-Landry
PF: Garnett-Williams-BBD
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