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Pacers Come To Boston For Another One of Those Non-Playoff Thingys

Indiana Pacers at Boston Celtics, Mar 12, 2010 7:30 PM EST


Indiana Pacers (21-43) @ Boston Celtics (40-23)
Time: March 12th, 7:30 PM EST
TV: CSNNE, FS-Indiana Radio: WEEI, WFNI
Venue: TD Garden
The Line: Celtics are 1-1 vs Indiana this season.
Celtics Look to avoid thier first 3 game losing streak since Jan.



If you need a quick opinion on the state of the team right now, feel to scroll down. Needless to say, most of us here in Celtics Land are a little bit bummed. Just a smidge. Okay, a bit. Well okay, we're quite a bit. A lot. Like, a ton bummed. Yes.

But, c'est la vie. You can't win every game. Sometimes, your team isn't what you expected it to be. Sometimes, you drop games to the Nets and sometimes you get destroyed by the Grizzlies. It's a box of chocolates. The important thing is that you put down the one filled with mayonnaise and hope the next one is filled with the dark chocolate nougat type filling. Or cherries, if you're cordial. (ha-ha!)

Our candy du jour tonight is the Indiana Pacers. More A#1 Good Job! analysis after the jump.

Star-divide

 

We've seen this same scenario quite a bit recently. Chippy, yet under-talented/under-developed team with a sub .500 record strolls into the Garden. The faithful pray for a good ol fashioned 2007-2008 blowout. The skeptics say 'it'll be close, but we're going to pull this out.' Randy Quiad yells obscenities from the bleachers Randyquaidhappy-1_medium

It's all the same every game we face the traditional underdog team.

Well I say we forget all that. All of it. No more can the Celtics pencil ANNY team in the win column. Not the Nets, Not the Grizzlies, Not the Paces...NOBODY.

Tonight I will just be happy with a win. I'm not asking for blowouts anymore, or even a full 48 minutes of consistent play. I just want wins.

If this team was 'going to grow' or 'gel' or 'froth over' or whatever, it would have happened by now. We've no longer got the luxury of hoping that one game it is just going to be turned on. Well, actually we can hope whatever we want, we're fans. We can hope Sheldon Williams will finally learn to fly, or that KG will become a noble laureate for his poetry. But, it is better to be realistic.

So tonight, I say cast your lofty unrealistic expectations aside, and get ready to watch a tough, slow, messy basketball game that is probably going to be a lot closer than you would expect. I still fully expect a win, but it will not be a pretty one. 

Probable Starting Lineups:

Boston Celtics

 

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POSITION NAME MIN PTS REB AST

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PG Rajon Rondo 36.8 14.2 4.4 9.8

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SG Ray Allen 36.1 16.2 3.4 2.6

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SF Paul Pierce 34.8 17.5 4.3 3.2

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PF Kevin Garnett 30.2 14.2 7.5 2.8

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C Kendrick Perkins 28.1 10.6 7.7 1

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6 Rasheed Wallace 23.3 9.6 4.1 1.1

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7 Marquis Daniels 20.9 6.4 2.1 1.6

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8 Michael Finley 11 7.5 2 0

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9 Nate Robinson 16 7.2 1.8 2

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10 Tony Allen 17.8 6.4 2.8 1.4

Injuries and Stuff: Marcus Landry (D-League)

Indiana Pacers

 

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POSITION NAME MIN PTS REB AST

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PG T.J. Ford 25.8 10.5 3.2 3.9

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SG Luther Head 17.8 7.8 1.7 1.5

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SF Danny Granger 36.6 23.1 5.7 2.6

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PF Troy Murphy 31.7 13.9 9.7 2

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C Roy Hibbert 24 11.1 5.9 1.8

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6 Earl Watson 28.1 7.4 3.1 4.6

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7 Mike Dunleavy 22.9 10.3 3.6 1.5

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8 Brandon Rush 29.3 9.1 4.4 1.2

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9 Dahntay Jones 25.9 10.9 3.1 2

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10 Josh McRoberts 10.6 3.7 2.4 0.8

Injuries and Stuff: Jeff Foster (OUT), Tyler Hansborough (OUT, because he's a Psycho and he tried to beat up his mirror for staring at him wrong), Mike Dunleavy (DTD, because he's Mike Dunleavy)

Matchup Of the Evening: Paul "I'm not Injured, I Swear!" Pierce V Danny "I don't really have nickname yet, sorry" Granger

Everytime the Pacers play anyone this is the Matchup to watch. Heading into the season Danny Granger was a half-step behind Brandon Roy and a full step behind Kevin Durant as a projected player. He was that good last year. This year, while he hasn't taken a step back, he hasn't improved his stock either. Anyway you slice the pie though, Danny Granger is still the best offensive player on the floor.

Paul Pierce on the other hand has been quite the enigma. He's still called Paul Pierce by people who recognize his face, and he wears Paul Pierce's number. Heck, he even went to the All-Star game under the guise of our beloved Paul Pierce. But the man that has been on the floor for the Celtics since Christmas has NOT been Paul Pierce. He shoots a better 3, but has all the explosion of one of those dinosaurs you buy at the museum of natural history, the tiny little ones in the airtight packages, and they're supposed to expand when you put them in water, but really, they only turn out to be some crappy sponge/soap hybrid that expands to about 2x its side, which was honestly pretty small to begin with, so no big whoop. That's how much explosion and punch Paul Pierce has had.

While it is a bit unrealistic to imagine the team suddenly 'clicking', but I do not think it is unrealistic to see Paul Pierce suddenly become a much more efficient player. Lets see if the real deal shows up tonight.

Other Important Match-up: Rajon Rondo V TJ Ford

A famous CB forum member once said that TJ Ford is the ONLY player who can consistently 'out rondo' Rajon Rondo. Ford is quicker, and undoubtedly playing more aggressive. Rondo is going to have to work tonight.

Three Keys to the Game for the Good Guys:

1) Don't Play With Too Much Emotion: This team has often been looked at as the trash talking bad boys of the NBA. Well, bad boys in a very liberal and not true sense. But with Garnett on the team, attitude was never the problem. I think now, that attitude has sapped the fun out of the game for these guys. They're not only not the team they once were, they' can't even be the team they could be. The Celtics need to stop worrying about how they're NOT playing, and start concentrating on how the ARE playing, and make the best of it.

2) Stop Looking at the Floor: Man, did anyone see a timeout recently in a Celtics loss? it's like the guys are walking over to the bench with 50 lb weights on each arm, shoulders slumped like some kind of archaic proletariat parodying the USSR. Have some spine Celtics. God helps those that don't quit when the other team doesn't just run away that help themselves!

3) O Perkins, Perkins, wherefore art thou Perkins? The bare bones of it is basically, we need Perkins. Gotta have him. We can't win without Kendrick Perkins, N'est pas possible. In the first 39 games of the season, he had 13 double doubles. That's exactly 1 dbl-dbl ever 3 games. Since then, over the past 24 games, he's had exactly 1 double double. It's not much of a coincidence that the Celtics have gone 13-11 over those 24 games.

Have Faith Celtics Fans. Tonight Brings us a Win.

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Isn’t it spelled “thingies”? Anyhow, another end-of-season loss. But I like it. I want a better pick for next year, when we’ll start to rebuild. If the season ended today, we’d have the 23rd pick.

by P2 on Mar 12, 2010 3:21 PM EST reply actions  

Wrong on both counts

1) Thingys is okay, because since thingy is the word being pluralized, according the grammar recs of made up words, we don’t drop the y and add an i
2) And tonight is going to be a win.

Reporter: About a year ago I asked about the Celtics-Lakers thing and you said you'd really only seen it on TV. Now you've been through it, can you talk about playing the Boston Celtics for the NBA championship?
Kobe: It Sucks.

by Tom Bellinger on Mar 12, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for the clarification… on both counts.

by P2 on Mar 12, 2010 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

The Celtic are fortunate that Granger, Hansborough and Foster are injured.

by Brickowski on Mar 12, 2010 3:25 PM EST reply actions  

I can't find Granger

Hurt as in playing hurt or hurt as in not playing? Because I don’t have Granger sitting this one out anywhere.

Reporter: About a year ago I asked about the Celtics-Lakers thing and you said you'd really only seen it on TV. Now you've been through it, can you talk about playing the Boston Celtics for the NBA championship?
Kobe: It Sucks.

by Tom Bellinger on Mar 12, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Granger sat out their last game because of a suspension, I believe. According to their game notes he is healthy and starting, unless something came up since the game notes were put up. But then again, the game notes had their PG and SG reversed so who knows.

Perk is a BEAST!!

by FLCeltsFan on Mar 12, 2010 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

And....

Great job on the preview!!!!

Perk is a BEAST!!

by FLCeltsFan on Mar 12, 2010 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I believe Granger is playing

And remember, the Pacers already beat the Celtics once this year.

by vinnie on Mar 12, 2010 3:46 PM EST reply actions  

that was the first heartbreaker game of the season.

Reporter: About a year ago I asked about the Celtics-Lakers thing and you said you'd really only seen it on TV. Now you've been through it, can you talk about playing the Boston Celtics for the NBA championship?
Kobe: It Sucks.

by Tom Bellinger on Mar 12, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

You made one glaring mistake

Tyler Hansborogh was a scum bag Tar Heel, not a Dukie. How dare you disgrace the good name of the Dukies, partially kidding of course…..or am I?

Anyways, I just want a win tonight. My coworkers, who don’t even like basketball, can tell I’ve been rather grumpy lately and I’d like to get them off my back about it.

by KG's Knee on Mar 12, 2010 3:54 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Duh. Dukie..wow.

Thank you.

Reporter: About a year ago I asked about the Celtics-Lakers thing and you said you'd really only seen it on TV. Now you've been through it, can you talk about playing the Boston Celtics for the NBA championship?
Kobe: It Sucks.

by Tom Bellinger on Mar 12, 2010 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I always laugh when I read your name…

by mm mm toasty on Mar 12, 2010 9:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Prediction

I predict we win tonight in convincing fashion. Since it looks like both KG and Paul are still hurt it may not be a huge point difference but there will be no doubt that we win! What does everyone else think?

by C'sFanDan on Mar 12, 2010 3:58 PM EST reply actions  

Hansborogh

He’s from my neck of the woods. That doesnt mean anything it’s just we dont have a lot of guys that I can think of from Missouri go pro. Peeler comes to mind and I am sure there are lots more but I just cant think of them. Hansorogh actually lived only about 2 hours away or even a little less.

by C'sFanDan on Mar 12, 2010 4:00 PM EST reply actions  

I think the Big Matchup is KG vs.TM

I think the big matchup tonight is Kg versus Troy Murphy.

Troy Murphy is a big man, with mobility and can step out and actually knock down the 3(maybe sheed should take notes tonight, instead of taking e pts. from halfcourt).

Troy Murphy is a lefty, and KG is going to have to use that left knee to push off tonight on D, as Murphy likes to go left.

I expect a lot of pick and pop involving Murphy, so Kg has his work cut out for him.

by fanofgreen on Mar 12, 2010 4:00 PM EST reply actions  

I see you point about Murphy but I disagree about one fundemental issue. Murphy is not mobile. At least not above average for a typical NBA 4. He can stretch the defense, but he’s not fast by any means. The bigger problem is that both TM and Roy Hibbert are rebounding well right now.

Reporter: About a year ago I asked about the Celtics-Lakers thing and you said you'd really only seen it on TV. Now you've been through it, can you talk about playing the Boston Celtics for the NBA championship?
Kobe: It Sucks.

by Tom Bellinger on Mar 12, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree he is not the most moblie 4 in the league but…He is more mobile than any of our front line right now.

Am I right? I mean if you think about it, its not a stretch to say Murphy is more mobile than any of our big guys right now.

by fanofgreen on Mar 12, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Well its not a stretch to say most power forwards are more mobile than KG right now. Where we run into trouble is when they’re substantially more mobile, which Murphy is not.

Reporter: About a year ago I asked about the Celtics-Lakers thing and you said you'd really only seen it on TV. Now you've been through it, can you talk about playing the Boston Celtics for the NBA championship?
Kobe: It Sucks.

by Tom Bellinger on Mar 12, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I beg to differ, but we will see tonight.

I believe Murphy is moblie enough to give KG problems, thats all i’m saying.

But I feel we’ve got the advantage in most of the areas though, so hopefully we can get a GOOD win.

by fanofgreen on Mar 12, 2010 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree, Murphy isn’t athletic enough or skilled enough to give Garnett troubles.

Murphy is strictly a stand still shooter on the offensive end of the floor.

by Who on Mar 12, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounds like your describing KG also. haha

by fanofgreen on Mar 12, 2010 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Kevin’s offensive game is limited by his mental hangover from the injury. Rather than his physical state or his skill-set.

If Garnett was more aggressive he would still have a highly effective face up game and post game.

by Who on Mar 12, 2010 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Changes a-comin'?

ESPN has Nate as the starting SG on the “depth chart”. Is Ray coming off the bench, maybe?

by chunnamark on Mar 12, 2010 4:30 PM EST reply actions  

gotta be a mistake.

Reporter: About a year ago I asked about the Celtics-Lakers thing and you said you'd really only seen it on TV. Now you've been through it, can you talk about playing the Boston Celtics for the NBA championship?
Kobe: It Sucks.

by Tom Bellinger on Mar 12, 2010 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s messed up. Did you also see they’re starting Sheed over KG? There would have been a press release.

Reporter: About a year ago I asked about the Celtics-Lakers thing and you said you'd really only seen it on TV. Now you've been through it, can you talk about playing the Boston Celtics for the NBA championship?
Kobe: It Sucks.

by Tom Bellinger on Mar 12, 2010 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

ESPN

I saw that too the other day, ESPN is capable of anything.

by mabmrclean on Mar 12, 2010 9:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Brick

you’re starting to sound like a loss would make you happy. I understand the frustration but there comes a point where the negativity is less constructive as it is monotonous.

by djLaysItIn on Mar 12, 2010 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Danny Granger is an excellent scorer but is thoroughly mediocre in every other aspect of the game.

That is why he is only a borderline All-Star and not amongst the best of the best.

by Who on Mar 12, 2010 5:06 PM EST reply actions  

So What?

No one on the Celtics can defend him.

by Brickowski on Mar 12, 2010 6:37 PM EST up reply actions  

wait a minute

why are you raving about Granger, he isn’t Euro!

by mabmrclean on Mar 12, 2010 9:03 PM EST up reply actions  

here is what i think is going to happen.

We’re going to get killed by them white boys tonight … lol

by businessbmw on Mar 12, 2010 5:46 PM EST reply actions  

two thingies

businessbmw get a life ….2) Indeed any preview with a Randy Quaid reference is a great read…

by Fastbreak1 on Mar 12, 2010 6:30 PM EST reply actions  

Indiana

has struggled this year and taken a step back, but they are still a team that shows up and plays hard. A part of me wishes this game was on the road, but let’s see if tonight is one of the times the C’s can pull it together. I think it’d be a good opportunity for Doc to change things up, though I’m not holding my breath. I’ll judge the C’s from here on out on effort alone, regardless of win total or final seeding.

by djLaysItIn on Mar 12, 2010 7:29 PM EST reply actions  

Stock Market C's

They are up then down then up then down. You never know. The glaring thing here is that they lack consistency. Can they beat any team in the league? YES Can they lose to any team in the league? YES Can their starters play well? YES Can their starters disappear? YES Can their bend play well? YES Can their bench be ineffective? YES

by mabmrclean on Mar 12, 2010 9:06 PM EST reply actions  

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