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Love & Marriage

I was asked recently if I think that this team likes each other as much as they did two years ago and if I like them as much.  I don't travel with the team and I'm no armchair psychologist, but I think they do (and I do), but in a very different way.  The best analogy I could come up with was the process of falling in love and being married.

Two years ago, it was love at first sight.  The Big 3 of Pierce, Allen, and Garnett found in each other what they've been searching their whole careers for.  Soul mates who wanted the same thing and were willing to sacrifice to get it.  It was an emotional high and nothing could bring them down.  They rode that honeymoon period right on through the season and into the playoffs.  Their, they found their first sobering moments and major obstacles.  Instead of getting discouraged, they put their heads together and fought through the trials and came out on top.  Now, not only did they have the exuberance of the early days of their marriage, they also made it through some tough times and achieved their wildest dreams because of their dedication to each other.  In short, their "marriage" was made even stronger because of it and everyone benefited.

A similar feeling can be associated with the fans.  We bought in early and we flat out fell head over heels in love with this team and were rewarded with an NBA title.  

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However, the past year and a half could be defined as the post-honeymoon period.  As the years go by, you discover things about your mate that you either didn't realize before or were too love-blind to see.  Little foibles become grating pet peeves.  Minor annoyances become glaring weaknesses.  And a funny thing happens along the way.  Being married typically makes you painfully aware of your own shortcomings because you see them reflected in the way your spouse reacts to you.  This doesn't mean that you love each other any less.  Just the opposite.

What develops is a more mature love.  A more unconditional love.  When you can look at someone and really know them top to bottom, knowing everything imperfect about them and still truly love them without hesitation, that's mature love.  When you've been through many, many tough times together, you know that you can get through the next one together and you find a deeper respect for each other because of it.

I think this is what has developed on the Celtics.  They make no pretense of being perfect and they are fully aware of each other's faults.  (And as fans, we see them and get frustrated by them to no end.)  But a more mature love and respect is there.  They have more and more respect for each other even as more and more cracks are showing up in the armor.  

I'm not sure if all this love and respect will ultimately lead to another title.  But when I hear people question the chemistry on the team, I tend to disagree (in as much as I can from afar).  What I perceive is a team that is becoming a bit like and old married couple.  The honeymoon is long gone, but so are many of the hardest times.  They've been through it all together, so they can pretty much have what were previously 30 minute arguments by exchanging a few knowing looks and moving on with their day.

They've had their share of rough spots in the last year and a half, but there have been good times too.  They've overcome a lot and they have a long road yet ahead of them.  But I don't get the sense that they have given up on each other in the least.

Here's hoping that this more mature love and respect is enough to pull them together at least one more time.  They need to find that spark and rekindle the flame for the uphill climb ahead of them.  Just like we fans have to put aside the disappointments and gear up for the playoffs.  Because there's no turning back.  This one is till death do us part and we're all in.  The team wants this and we want this with all our hearts.  Though if it doesn't happen, we'll pick ourselves up and still love each other just as much.

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I Do

…which, for this article, should replace “And 1” and “+1”. I’m on board, till the end… be it bitter or sweet.

I say that even though I don’t believe in the existence of unconditional love (all feelings are conditioned on something, imo)… Yet I do believe that these guys can pull it together not just one more time, but TWO more times. This season, and the next.

The good news is: we will soon find out – in quite dramatic fashion – where this love-fest is going. 21 more games, and destiny will begin unfolding itself.

by DRJ1 on Mar 9, 2010 6:56 AM EST reply actions  

good analogy. the honeymoon is sure over. at times it looks like the 7 year itch.

by nazzbo on Mar 9, 2010 7:49 AM EST reply actions  

Come the playoffs.....

  Even the bad teams get way up for the playoffs. Don’t think you’ll see a lack of the work ethic on defense during the playoffs.

by Dipper on Mar 9, 2010 7:56 AM EST reply actions  

no way

unless they have an ‘open marriage’ – too many players come and go

PJ BROWN, JAMES POSEY, LEON POWE, EDDIE HOUSE, JR GIDDENS, BILL WALKER
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SHEED, FINLEY, ROBINSON -

it’s like a revolving door, these guys don’t have time to ‘fall in love’ or whatever – it’s a business -

they’re all in the NBA – i think most players like each other -

Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk

by mcpu40 on Mar 9, 2010 8:09 AM EST reply actions  

you just named all bench players...

some of which never even played.

The revolving door analogy when you’ve had the same starting 5 for 3 straight years is a bit strong…

"Take it to the hoop, there's a dance involved." - DJ Tommy

by WillyBeamin on Mar 9, 2010 8:14 AM EST up reply actions  

true - but still

all the ray allen trade talk – there’s no ‘love’ – it’s a business – players come & go -

they LOVE to play -

Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk

by mcpu40 on Mar 9, 2010 8:41 AM EST up reply actions  

did you see the way the guys reacted to eddie house?

don’t tell me there is no love, that’s BS

"Take it to the hoop, there's a dance involved." - DJ Tommy

by WillyBeamin on Mar 9, 2010 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

heard guys like rondo

talk about how they traded away a friend, and how they’d always be friends.

if you’ve played a competitive team sport on any level you develop some pretty strong bonds with other guys, I can only imagine what that’s like for these guys who spend almost ALL THEIR TIME together.

"Take it to the hoop, there's a dance involved." - DJ Tommy

by WillyBeamin on Mar 9, 2010 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

yes -

they’re friends – i got sad when we had layoffs at my work January 2009 –
i don’t ‘love’ my co-workers – the word is to strong -
i love my son, my daughter, and my wife -

Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk

by mcpu40 on Mar 9, 2010 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

so now you're arguing that these celtics don't "love" each other the way you love your wife?

I’m not going near that… my point remains that these guys like each other plenty, and the fact that some role players have come and gone doesn’t change that 3 players who will be remembered in history TOGETHER seem to very much enjoy playing and being around each other

"Take it to the hoop, there's a dance involved." - DJ Tommy

by WillyBeamin on Mar 9, 2010 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

yes - they enjoy each other - the big 3 (or 5) whatever -

…it is jeff who wrote:
The best analogy I could come up with was the process of falling in love and being married. Two years ago, it was love at first sight….Soul mates
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that’s a little off – that’s all i’m saying – don’t have a cow willybeamin -

they’re on a basketball team together, go to battle together -

Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk

by mcpu40 on Mar 9, 2010 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Great analogy jeff.
I do/ +1

by Pmartin60 on Mar 9, 2010 8:52 AM EST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Marriage means commitment. Of course, so does insanity.

My wife says I never listen to her. At least I think that’s what she said.

Is it Soup Yet?

by Master Po on Mar 9, 2010 9:32 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

So you agree with your Wife

That’s how marriage works Master Po, My wife says I don’t listen to her either, and I agree. !!! See what a wonderful marriage we have

by Ancient Red on Mar 9, 2010 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I wonder how the Bucks feel about each other...

Will we see an effort like the last game vs the Wiz?
(= loss)

Or Portland?

(= win)

by nba is the worst on Mar 9, 2010 9:36 AM EST reply actions  

Dysfunctional family...just do the math

OUT : Character guys {Posey & Eddie & Powe & PJ}

IN : Lazy and undisciplined guys {Sheed & KrytoNate}

by Title 18 on Mar 9, 2010 9:36 AM EST reply actions  

"undusciplined guys"

who by all reports their teammates like playing with? (particularly sheed, whose teammates have always liked him).

but you hold on to your own bias against him, ignore the facts, that’s cool.

"Take it to the hoop, there's a dance involved." - DJ Tommy

by WillyBeamin on Mar 9, 2010 9:40 AM EST up reply actions  

The team is starting to play harder given there are only 21 games left before the second season. We will soon find out who the team players are since guys like KG and Pierce are going to demand that the rest of the team turn it up a couple of notches. If anyone thinks they do not want to win number 18, then we are watching a different team right now. The motivation is there. We just have to accept that we are not currently built to blow teams away anymore. The wins from here on out will be tough and a grind. But I still like our chances.

So, we are currently the 3rd seed and enjoy a nice 2 game cushion over the Hawks. (As a further indication as to how we cannot over analyze the regular season, the Knicks beat the Hawks three times this year). And we are one back in the loss column to the Magic. If we can finish with a better record than them, then we will hold the second seed. How crazy is that, given our injuries and the way Cleveland is far ahead in terms of wins and losses?

by JPV on Mar 9, 2010 10:02 AM EST reply actions  

That's why I love this blog, Jeff...

…I tune in and find an eloquent metaphorical treatise on love and basketball. Only in Boston…

Well put Jeff…

by jyrecelts on Mar 9, 2010 10:08 AM EST reply actions  

Exactly!!

Leave it to Jeff to perfectly sum up the differences between the 08 team and this one in 3 words!

by footey on Mar 9, 2010 11:03 AM EST reply actions  

Simple

If the big 4 are healthy we can beat anyone but if there is an injury to any one of them we are in trouble cause doc can’t adjust all he knows is play the big 4 as much as possible that’s it

by celtsfan1 on Mar 9, 2010 11:18 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Like the Song Says....

What’s love got to do with it? It’s a second hand emotion.

What matters is performance.

by Brickowski on Mar 9, 2010 11:55 AM EST reply actions  

Performance... exactly. To extend the metaphor...

how many marriages can maintain that initial passion as they start to become a mature love? In the bedroom (on the court) can the Celtics bring that lovin’ when it counts? Can they even get it up anymore?

PS – If anyone has Walter McCarty’s album ‘After the Lovin’" I would be forever indebted to you for emailing it to me… lemme know.

by milt palacio's shot on Mar 9, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

+1

great name… I’m gonna go youtube that.

"Take it to the hoop, there's a dance involved." - DJ Tommy

by WillyBeamin on Mar 9, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

i love this team more than anything

ive put this team before work, school and, relationships on far too many occassions..as long as this group is together ill continue to do so. Its not only that I love the Celtics but I love the players and would kill for a chance to spend a day with these guys and learn who they really are.

by threats13 on Mar 9, 2010 11:59 AM EST reply actions  

Scal would be better... who is Peggy?

you beat me, i was expecting Scals selling shoes. Not easy to find analogies with the bundies, thought.

Jeff is right, this team got us atached to it like in the tv show’s song: “… go together like a horse and carriage”

but as long as they play Celtic bball, i love them

Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
Terry Pratchett, Hogfather

by aporel#18 on Mar 9, 2010 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Great Analogy Jeff!!!

I agree that it was like love at first sight, for us fans and even the players. Its like that giddy “I can’t believe it!” feeling, and everything goes on right like its too good to be true that you found your perfect match. And then you plan the wedding, and spend thousands on it, and the honeymoon is even greater..

But then we forget that there is work to be done when all that is over. The marriage is the working part. And we as fans forget that teams get better, players leave, etc, and that’s when we have to work.

I hope the C’s and their trash talk = C’s will & fire to win is back like it was seasons ago. There is only one thing trash talking leads to with this team… WINS!

by Mizzy21390 on Mar 9, 2010 2:50 PM EST reply actions  

trolls

the trolling has increased lately…glad to hear you have a good marriage Jeff….Po, listen to your wife and me….

by Fastbreak1 on Mar 9, 2010 3:30 PM EST reply actions  

My wife used to hate it

when she’d complain that I don’t listen to her and would have to repeat it 5 times to get a response. Oh well…

If the players read this article, they’d probably laugh hard. But the emotions are there, under the surface. This season has been all about repeating things to them and then waiting for a response. It’s coming soon… 22nd game from right now.

by DRJ1 on Mar 9, 2010 4:33 PM EST reply actions  

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