Ric Bucher Has Our Back. Chris Broussard Wants A Piece.
Ric Bucher picks Boston to be the biggest surprise this post-season, Chris Broussard says 'nayyyyy'
Via ESPN Insider: LinkRIC BUCHER: When we first discussed debating who the surprise team of the playoffs would be, I figured the most difficult part would be choosing from a half-dozen or so options. Did I want to go with a playoff newcomer (as in, OKC or Charlotte) that seems poised to pull off a first-round upset? Or did I want to go with a coming-on-strong team (as in, San Antonio or Portland) to reach the conference finals? I decided to go the other way and pick the team whose staunchest fan, The Sports Guy, already has given them up for dead. I'm saying the Boston Celtics are going to be in the Eastern Conference finals.
CHRIS BROUSSARD: You are certainly going out on a limb, my man, because I don't see any way Boston gets by Cleveland in the second round (assuming the Cavs beat the Bulls in Round 1).
More quotes and fun facts (Chris Broussard hates unicorns. Fact.) after the break.
Note: RB=Ric Bucher, CB=Chris 'Negative Nancy' Broussard
RB: I know the Celtics have not been consistent and stumbled down the stretch, but they still show flashes of playing as well as anyone when they're motivated, demonstrated by their recent win over the Cavs.
CB: I agree that Boston can be "the old Celtics" from time to time, but they can no longer do it for a full seven-game series against a top-flight team.
Chris Broussard is skeptical of our Schwartz. Ric "I don't need no stinkin' K's" Bucher is about to show Broussard what the back of his hand looks like.
RB: I don't blame anyone for believing the Celtics are done; but having been around the team several times in the last few weeks, I know there remains a tremendous amount of pride in that locker room, and my sense is that they will come into the playoffs with a chip on their shoulder because everyone has written them off. I particularly like their chances of knocking off Orlando.
The Celtics, for as disappointing as they've been, are the eighth-best defensive team overall and third-best defending the 3. Defensively, I just don't see any reason they can't get back to the tenacity that had them holding eight of their first nine opponents to 90 points or less.
CB: I see a big reason Boston can't play well enough defensively to beat Cleveland or Orlando -- age! KG was always their anchor defensively, covering for other guys and making them better than ever on that end. Well, age, injuries and wear-and-tear have sapped him of the ability to do that night in, night out.
Chris Broussard taking the typical 'pessimistic Polly' stance here, as well as working in a little bit of 'Harry Hater'. Let's see how 'The Buchs' responds!
RB: I see the age factor as a little overblown with Boston, as opposed to, say, San Antonio, because of Rajon Rondo and Kendrick Perkins and a defense that isn't predicated on one guy like Orlando's is. Perk and Rondo have done nothing but improve and were instrumental in the Celtics going to seven games in the second round without KG last year.
My reason for still believing in Boston is more gut than anything statistical. I know Doc Rivers has been juggling his rotations just to get everybody to the finish line without setbacks. Mission accomplished. Meanwhile, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen have both found their stroke, scoring big and shooting better than 50 percent.
CB: There's no reason -- other than the sentimental "gut" -- to think the Celtics are going past Round 2. Since Christmas, they have been absolutely mediocre, going 27-27 since their 23-5 start. That's a pace that would have them seeded eighth in the weak East and out of the playoffs altogether out West if they played that way all season. That's four months of middling play. That's enough of a sample size for me.
Chris Broussard has officially run out of steam. Take him down Ric.
RB: Despite the Celtics' feebleness, they beat the Cavs two out of three times this season, a team they'd face before the conference finals.
CB: First of all, Boston's 2-2 vs. Cleveland, not 2-1, and the win on opening night can easily be dismissed because the Cavs were adjusting to playing with Shaq for the first time. Not an easy adjustment, as you know.
RB: Adjusting to Shaq? Um, I believe they will be doing that all over again. Unless, of course, you believe he'll step right back in seamlessly. I don't.
Ummmm Ex-squeeze me? Baking powder? Don't hurt em' Ric!
CB: Secondly, Boston is 1-3 vs. the Magic. But more than that, the Celtics have become a terrible rebounding team. They're the worst rebounding team in the playoffs and ranked 25th in the league overall in rebound margin.
RB: Doc drove home exactly how much the regular season has meant to the Celtics by sitting the Big Three in the season finale. In fact, the only game in which he played each of the Big Three at least 35 minutes was against the Cavs, for a win. That was by design, to find out exactly where the team was when it unleashed the cannons. Satisfied that they could still get it done, they pulled the tarp out again. They went 1-3 against Orlando despite outrebounding the Magic three out of four games, so I don't put much stock in rebounding being a meaningful harbinger.
As I said, this argument can't be waged with charts and graphs. It's about this being the Celtics' last stand as currently constituted, and about pride. More than anything, it's my lack of confidence in Orlando and Cleveland as playoff teams. Regular season, no question they were both better. But do they have the players who can deliver in the clutch in the playoffs? We have yet to see it from either of them.
Awwwwww call it! Call it! This isn't a debate it's a massacre! Ric Bucher, you sir, are some kind of wonderful.
Let's just hope you're also not some kind of crazy.
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You would dare speak his name????
Get outta here you instigator!
Reporter: About a year ago I asked about the Celtics-Lakers thing and you said you'd really only seen it on TV. Now you've been through it, can you talk about playing the Boston Celtics for the NBA championship?
Kobe: It Sucks.
by Tom Bellinger on Apr 16, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Simmons is a Chicken Little
He will always say that the worst is going to happen so that when it does, he can say he was right and act all smart and powerful. And if the worst doesn’t happen, he is allowed to act happy and pleasantly surprised. Worst type of fan: one that always tries to play it safe so their feelings don’t get hurt. Even in 2008 he said the Celtics would lose because Doc was their coach.
That being said, I love reading his column. I think he is entertaining as hell despite his pessimism towards all things Boston.
by KY Celts fan on Apr 16, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Simmons wanted Brokafor over Howard
Credibility lost in 04
"Morning yall up early w/ the babies watchn Dora. Seems Lamar can't keep my name out his mouth maby I need 2 put my sons shitty diaper n it"~Matt Barnes
ha and to think I thought he was a Boston fan
sorry, my bust
by lakersbluedevil on Apr 16, 2010 1:43 PM EDT reply actions
Has anyone noticed how
if there are two announcers on a show they usually take polar opinions? Anyway, I have always liked Ric Bucher probably because he is always touting the C’s. This team is not done guys! They have played poorly as of late and early and often maybe but they have a lot of talent and took the Magic to 7 last year w/out Kevin and mostly Powe as I remember. This team will be better in the playoffs then last years and I have no doubt about it. If it is Cleveland we get in round 2 then it will be very difficult but possible. I am not counting this squad out of anything in this years playoffs.
by C'sFanDan on Apr 16, 2010 1:44 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
torn
I keep getting really jacked about the playoffs, and then finding myself having to stop that excitement. I mean, I love the NBA, so all playoffs, even ones the Cs are not in, are manna for me. I’m looking forward to lots of series, because I think this year will be more interesting than most. And part of me also wants to get really amped about the Cs, thinking they are now going to turn it on and make a fantastic run to the Finals. But I stop myself from letting the fantasy play out because I don’t want to be disappointed. Last year broke my heart, I invested so much in it, and I’m not sure I want to go through that again.
That's what's so great about being a fan because when the team does make that fantastic run...
And you had hope and believed in them and were with them the whole time it just feels so much better and it feels that much better because of the disappointment you feel from years before like last years.
That is why it is worth getting amped up and being with your team because when your team does ultimately succeed there is nothing like it.
I've got that same gut feeling as Bucher
Impossible to prove…Could just be a whim…Or sheer hopefulness…Whatever it is, it is indeed there. And Mo Williams does nothing in the postseason, for the record. I would have no faith in that dude if I were a Cleveland fan. There might be stats out there to contradict this, but last season he was one of the main reasons I thought Cleveland lost to Orlando.
You are correct
Mo was less vs the Magic…
And you know how I feel about Mike Brown’s playoff game-management capabilities…
(You can never underrate them enough)
by nba is the worst on Apr 16, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
me too
and I also concur with his points about Cleveland and Orlando. We’re all aware of the Celts took a step back this year, but an objective view would also see the same from those two teams.
Cleveland has the best player in the league, but any proven role players? Like Greg said, don’t count on Mo. And Jamison also is known to wilt under the bright lights. In a big game, DWest becomes their 2nd most dependable scorer, which I think is a shaky prospect for a title run. Oh, and they still can’t defend the pick and roll with an old and out of shape Shaq.
Orlando, who taylored a great system around DH last year that got them to the Finals, has gone more conventional by replacing Hedu with the leagues greatest ‘all show, no go’ player of all-time, Vince Carter.
The Celts on the other hand, their biggest weaknesses are largely effort (not talent) driven. Defense & Rebounding. If they can’t improve on those two things in the playoffs, then they deserve a 1st round exit. BUT if they put forth the effort to rotate and box out – then they can get to the Finals.
\uh
Magic starters are the best starting unit in the East, both offensively and defensively, scoring 113.3 points per 100 possessions while allowing just 95.0
they did this with Carter, Not Hedo.
"Morning yall up early w/ the babies watchn Dora. Seems Lamar can't keep my name out his mouth maby I need 2 put my sons shitty diaper n it"~Matt Barnes
While I don't disagree
Behind lebron
your rotation you can count on is delonte and varejao
but don’t forget that just last year shaq put up allstar numbers, if he is in h will get his, as much of a liability as he is, he will get his
and Z has always been a problem for us though now he would be facing sheed which should pose little problem
don’t forget hickson, hell we know even powe can get it done
while I would nt count on them thy are all still capable of contributing to celtics hair loss
by Warrior Spirit on Apr 16, 2010 5:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If we play hard well win…. Haven’t heard that one enought it just seems the celtics haven’t played hard: but from what they’ve told us was when the playoffs are here they will.. I sure hope so…
Heat are like the cavs… U can’t shut the star down but u sure can stop everything around them.. Could we ask for a better “practice” for the cavs. Althoughg i don’t think it’ll be the atmosphere of a practice I do believe the celtics will win in 6 though
by Pmartin60 on Apr 16, 2010 1:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Unfortunately, most of Ric's "facts" were incorrect...
“Paul Pierce and Ray Allen have both found their stroke, scoring big and shooting better than 50 percent.”
Ray 48%, PP 47%.
“Despite the Celtics’ feebleness, they beat the Cavs two out of three times this season, a team they’d face before the conference finals”
As Chris said, 2-2, with the 2nd vs a Cavs team that had already clinched HCA throughout the finals, losing a 20-pt lead in one quarter, and that included LeBron’s 8 missed fts and 9 missed threes. The opposite of a confidence-builder IMO…
“More than anything, it’s my lack of confidence in Orlando and Cleveland as playoff teams. Regular season, no question they were both better. But do they have the players who can deliver in the clutch in the playoffs? We have yet to see it from either of them.”
Both teams went farther than a CLEARLY better C’s team (at least at home) last season…
I tend to believe my own eyes regarding the level of the team. But we will know pretty quickly now…
by nba is the worst on Apr 16, 2010 2:18 PM EDT reply actions
Can't wait!
What’s going to happen when the C’s play really well? What are the “insufferables” going to to do with themselves??? I’m sure they’ll pick apart a victory as much as a lose. Born Negative.
nit picking
‘found’ ==> means it was lost but now is ‘found’
Ray is shooting 56% in April. And 51.3% for Feb, Mar & April (50%+ for each month).
Paul is shooting 51.1% for April. A hair below, 49.3% for Mar & April combined. February was injury riddled.
I'll give you Ray on a 36-game sample...
But PP only played 7 games (so far) in April…
by nba is the worst on Apr 16, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't get no respect!
No love on making the Robin Hood/Bucher picture?
Reporter: About a year ago I asked about the Celtics-Lakers thing and you said you'd really only seen it on TV. Now you've been through it, can you talk about playing the Boston Celtics for the NBA championship?
Kobe: It Sucks.
Agreed
Meant to comment on that. Nice work!
by TheOutletPass on Apr 16, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Simmons is a Cooler
I was watching some youtube video yesterday on the 1969 Celtics. Russell was asked after the game how they did it and he said a few things but it boiled down to this: ‘We love each other.’ Beautiful.
Our only hope is somehow getting Ubuntu back. I can’t say I’m optimistic.
Ric bucher is the same guy who informed us that...
—Kobe would absolutely force LA to trade him in 2007
—Amare Stoudamire was headed to Miami just two months ago
And both of those things were regarding deals and not teams winning or losing...
Title 18 just because an analyst says something positive and your fellow celtics bloggers do doesn’t mean you need to shut it down. Get on the bandwagon it’s the playoffs and the C’s are going to bring it!!
Title 18
Will you change your name to Title 19 when the Celtics with the 2010 Championship? Or keep “Title 18” because you enjoy wallowing in endless negativity?
I don't even know who ric bucher is
But he has gained a fan
by Warrior Spirit on Apr 16, 2010 5:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
love the article and im a lakers fan
i dont know why everybody sees Boston as done its not over till its hova baby.
be warned Ric Buchar did say that Gasol and Odom would never be champions but i think it was a temporary lapse of judgment for him
hope to see a Lakers vs Celtics rematch this june make it happen!
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Great men are never without flaws, but neither are they without magnificent traits that caused them to rise to such heights.
Upset!
Not sure why but im having a feeling between La/Okc and Clv/Chi one of them teams will go into monday 0-1
hopefully Clv
by Kobe Won Kenobi on Apr 16, 2010 7:08 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

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