Flawed Execution Doomed the Celtics Last Night
by Greg Payne on Apr 7, 2010 6:00 AM EDT
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PrintYou want to know what play summed up last night's game against the Knicks? There was 4:22 left in the fourth quarter, one of the Knicks (I honestly forget who) shot it, the ball clanged off the side of the rim, and headed straight for the corner sideline by the fans in the front row. When the ball hit the rim both Rasheed Wallace (2 rebounds last night) and Earl Barron (18 rebounds last night) were in practically the same position inside the paint. The difference? Rasheed stood there and stared at it, while Barron sprinted after it, gobbled it up, and managed to stay in bounds, saving a possession for the Knicks in the process. It's rare for a single play to sum up an entire game, but that one basically did. If "hustle" was a stat, last night's deficiency on the Celtics' part would have been even more glaring than their 44-34 deficit on the glass.
At the 4:22 mark, I also came to another conclusion: I knew from that point that it was going to be a one-possession game the rest of the way. The score was 96-94 Boston at that point, the Celtics were in the midst of a 6-0 run, but neither team was going to legitimately pull away in the final minutes. Of course, when you see "New York Knicks" on the schedule these days (yes, even THESE days) you honestly can't help but think "win". I mean, all the Celtics have to do is play thismuch defense and drive the ball through New York's porous interior defensive alignments and they're virtually guaranteed a win. Unfortunately, that didn't happen - particularly the defense part.
So, when a game you're supposed to win by double figures is going south fast, you do the best you can to search for positives. I came up with the following: If nothing else, hopefully we'll see some late game execution from the Celtics. I mean, we might as well take what we can get, right? I mean, no matter the scenario, it never hurts to execute your stuff late in a ball game, right? Right? Especially with the playoffs just six games away. Right?
Two things that have haunted this team at times all season actually played a significant role in last night's last-minute collapse.
Problem #1: Free throws in late game situations.
The C's haven't exactly been brisk from the free throw line late in games lately. Against Houston last Friday the C's missed four freebies over the final 46.5 seconds of regulation and overtime. Then, against Cleveland on Sunday, Paul Pierce and Kendrick Perkins combined to miss three free throws in the game's final 15 seconds.
So, with 1:02 left last night, Chris Duhon fouled Pierce, and Pierce only converted...wait for it...wait for it...ONE of two free throws, giving Boston a 101-100 lead.
Problem #2: Rebounding. In general.
The Knicks out-rebounded the Celtics 44-34 last night. In the Celtics' defense, the two teams were even on the defensive boards at 29 apiece. Which means that the 10-rebound differential must have come on the offensive glass, right? You betcha. 15-5 in favor of the Knicks, with none being more important than David Lee's offensive rebound with 45 ticks left, off of a missed Bill Walker three-point field goal attempt. The real devastation came just nine seconds later when Danilo Gallinari hoisted that jumper and miraculously banked in his 30th and 31st points of the evening. 102-101, Knicks.
So, in the ensuing Celtics timeout, Doc calls for a two-for-one, given there are 36 seconds left. Pierce gets the ball at the top of the key, drives towards the hoop, apparently thinks Kendrick Perkins has carved out some space in the paint, and looks to dish it. I mean, would you want Perkins being the guy taking the potential game-winning shot? Me neither. I guess I can't blame Perk for rotating up, because why would he expect the ball that late in the game? He looked like he was either trying to set a screen or get in position for a potential rebound. The two were clearly not on the same page, and Pierce's wrap-around pass sailed through the lane and into Chris Duhon's hands on the opposite side of the court. At this point, there are about 27 or 28 seconds left, so the C's choose not to foul.
21 seconds later, the Celtics' defense fails yet again as Duhon and Lee work a pick-and-roll twice in a span of five seconds, culminating in Duhon dishing it to Lee for a layup inside, giving the Knicks a 104-101 advantage with 7.3 seconds left.
Clearly, at this point, the Celtics need a three. Doc draws up a play for Ray Allen, who at this point has hit three of his six three-point field goal attempts and has registered 17 points. So, Rondo has the ball on the right side with Lee guarding him. Ray flairs out from the right side towards the top of the key, taking Duhon with him. Both Garnett and Rasheed Wallace converge at the top of the three-point line, potentially giving Ray an option to go around either screen. He decides to cut back right, around Garnett, towards Rondo. Unfortunately for the Celtics, Gallinari actually played this perfectly. He was guarding Garnett, but the second KG went over to screen for Ray, Galinari stayed home, just below the three-point arch, closer to Rondo, and when Duhon got picked off by KG, Gallinari jumped out and denied Ray the ball. Here's where the real trouble starts. Rondo's picked up his dribble, assuming Ray's going to get open. If he had kept the dribble alive, he might have been able to slash right real quick around Lee, cut along the baseline and kick the ball out to either Pierce on the left wing or 'Sheed at the top of the key. But without his dribble, he's forced to lob it over to Wallace, who shoots after time has already expired. Game over.
Let's be honest. Rondo was a little too flashy at times last night, trying to make the spectacular play instead of the right one. So in that regard, it was actually a fitting ending to his night.
Obviously, execution in the postseason is pivotal. And whether or not last night's game "meant anything" is irrelevant. The Celtics found themselves in a late game scenario where they needed to execute both their offensive and defensive sets in order to win the game, and they failed to do both. Regardless of the "value" or lack of "value" the Celtics themselves might have put in last night's contest, a team with championship aspirations never shies away from an opportunity to work on its late game execution. Practice can only get so authentic, and for a team to actually find itself in a situation like the Celtics found themselves in last night, is really a blessing in disguise. Unfortunately for these Celtics, the execution itself couldn't have been much worse.
Speaking of execution, let's all collectively execute a proper memory wipe and forget last night's outcome. Bring on Toronto.
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You forgot how horrible Perkins was...
He was all alone many times in the paint and instead of dunking the damn ball,
he goes for a lay up and gets blocked by Duhon.
Horrible game. Everybody was horrible except for Ray
which sometimes I think is the best player on the team.
By the way, I apologize for any mistakes, English isn’t my first language.
100% correct
and celtics will play that way in playoffs—this team appears to want to go fishing than play basketball—-to think toronto is a game to focus on—-all season the celtics have ignored—-you expect celtics to play like champions and loose to the nets, clippers,knicks,—training real hard to not play in 3rd or 4th quarters??? i promise you it would be better for the celtics not even to go to playoffs, than go and be humiliated with bad habits throughout the season——just as the saying goes—-“What you do in the regular season—-You take it with you in the playoffs”—-So dont be shocked if boston gets ripped in 1st round….Cure——keep rondo, ray, and trade everyone else……….seriously—-and tell them to go fishing on there own time….A CELTIC FAN SINCE 60"S
you are 100% correct sir!
exactly my thoughts, especially on the cure! and i have been a celtic fan since the 50’s and it
disgusts me to see them not playing with any enthusiasum or will to win. i am grateful
for the championship but i will also remember these great players giving up in the last year they can possibly have a chance, sad to end your career like this. i adocate trading them
expecially since next year their value will be even less in a trade and if they will not be playing any better with another year on them and i believe this lackadasical attitude and play only gets worse next year.
At This Point
I really think it’s time to begin talking about problems with the entire team, and not address issues relevant to particular games. The team is flawed. Something is wrong. Some things that immediately come to mind are:
rebounding
inconsistency
poor effort
too much talking and not enough action
and so on
Anyway, this team puts together a great run, Danny has got some decisions to make. And he’s got to make them prior to the draft. If Doc isn’t gone before the draft, then I don’t think Danny makes very many changes. If Doc is still around, then I think makes several changes.
bad habits
bad habits developed during season are coming back to haunt celtics—prediction—celtics out in 1st round——wallace—traded off season
Cut Him
Wallace isn’t on this team next season. If they can’t trade him, they will cut him. Abject failure.
One way or the other...Wallace is gone!
He will NOT have a second season in Boston.
I mean
We paid Vin Baker after he was no longer playing for us. We might just have to suck it up, cut him, and pay him anyway. If this season doesn’t work out, that could very well be our best option regarding him.
Baker vs. Wallace
Unlike Wallace….Vin Baker did not “crush” the hopes, the dreams, the spirit, or “suck the life” out of the 2003 & 2004 Celtics.
Those teams were hopeless even before he arrived.
Baker`s “cancer” was confined to Baker…it didn`t spread it to what was previously a healthy and/or contending team.
Wyc made a sizable investment in Wallace to put them over the top.
Life is short…and Wyc has too much money & personal pride to see Wallace in Celtic gear next year.
He will move Wallace at ANY cost.
SHEED IS A CANCER - PLAIN AND SIMPLE
that one play where he just stared at the rebound DOES sum it up perfectly.
but not just for last night..it sums it up for the bigger picture.
by CELTICZ4LIFE on Apr 7, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh I totally know they're two different situations
I’m just saying the C’s have paid a player who wasn’t even playing for them in the past. It’s happened before.
Oh, how I hope the predictions about Sheed being gone next season are correct! It has been so hard to cheer for him, which I feel obligated to do now since he’s a Celtic, and he hasn’t given me much reason to. Every time I see a picture of him in a Celtics’ uniform I think, “That’s just wrong!”
REALITY CHECK
Wallace plays like a piston in celtic uniform——-“Not there to win ,but help Celtics loose, so maybe his Pistons could win” -like a Trojan horse. Ainge is responsible for this tragedy—that china Giant at 7’ 11 " would have had a better season than Wallace——-SELAH——
your right
thats why teams mocked the celtics when they got wallace———they knew wallace would kill the celtic chemistry with technicals and lack of team play——-real bad rotten apple—-cure——cut him when season ends—-tell him to take a hike
greg p.— that non play by sheed was the last straw. no effort. it’s the knicks. mail it in. he is a cancer. after doc benches him for the t against the cavs, he lets him play after a no show like that. how about the missed layup? doc does not know how to handle these guys. laissez faire does not work on these super star egos this year. danny has some serious work to do. this team, whatever happens in the playoffs, needs restructuring. there is talent here but the way it sits is dysfunctional.
investigation required
the league must look into Rondo,he had to have bet the Knicks last nite…then Danny needs to investigate next…DISGUSTING effort….Rondo is a major problem aka uncoachable….but if he’s into it we can win…
WWLBD?
Larry Legend wouldnt have stood for the garbage the Sheedster pulled last night. Nor MJ, nor Kobe-Bron. The laizzez-faire attitude on this club is baffling. Youd think Mr Intentsity (of KG I speak) would be all over him. Nope. Not california Paul. Nor the ice assassin. Perkins is too busy bitchin at the refs. Rondo? He cant say anything, he was cruising in second all evening. Another cool dude.
Motwon say..
“Rondo is a major problem aka uncoachable….but if he’s into it we can win…”
Hm. Starting to think the same.
Give me a break
Rondo has been their best player. All-Star, going to be All NBA Defensive 1st Team, broke 2 Celtic records, etc. You guys are gonna complain about Rondo??
WOW
I don’t have a huge problem with Rondo, other than he’s a bit too much of a show-off for his own (and the team’s) good sometimes. Other than the Sheed play, a play I keep going back to that I think summed up the lack of focus and failure to execute last night was an inbounds play. I forget exactly when it happened, but it’s the one they always run where Pierce ends up all alone under the basket. Well, there he was, plain as day, and Rondo elected to go elsewhere like he didn’t even see him.
I agree
I just think that we shouldn’t lose sight of all the good this guy does for the team. I am 26 years old and I know my history, Rondo is one of the most unique PG’s I’ve ever seen. He does have a lot to improve upon, but he is young.
The “show-boating” that some people like to call it – is in my opinion a part of when a player has confidence in their game. He plays with flair and you can tell that when he pulls some of those fancy moves that he is loose and feeling good.
I can understand that not everyone likes that but at the end of the day, the dude gets it done.
So Nate has to learn the Defense to get mintes..WHAT DEFENSE DOES HE HAVE TO LEARN??!!
I’m so sick of the Celts projecting (and the media believing or at least not contradicting) the idea of them being an elite defensive team. Yesterday the story was that Nate would begin seeing PT once he picked up the complex defensive rotations and schemes. What complex rotations and schemes are are people talking about?! Maybe the these so called schemes and rotations are too complex because it appears as if no one is following them Maybe its time to simplify the game? In my opinion, Tom Thibideau has run out his coaching pass…Yea, one great season and now everyone in the league has picked it up. Either mix it up, get back to basics, or spend the big money in the offseason to bring in Phil Jackson and a new staff…
The Celtics have not played defense since the fall? Pierce and KG talk about being a defensive team first??? Are you kidding me?
Im so frustrated by this team…
by jsrotondi on Apr 7, 2010 7:32 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Wait wait wait
Who said Nate didn’t pick up the defense? He seems fine to me. I thought his problem was he wasn’t doing what he was supposed to do offensively.
by Tai on Apr 7, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I hope the celtics never have phil jackson.
by Christopher Weatherford on Apr 7, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Perk's bonehead plays - what is a game without his lazy, blatantly obvious moving screen
Anyone have a stat on how many times Perk has been called for a moving screen this season? It would also be great to know how many of those game in the 4th quarter during close games….
a given
Wallace sucks,he flatout does not like to play..it’s not his deal so OK we live with it…but Rondo? to let Westbrook,Brooks and last nite happen like it did?Rondo cost us 3 games in the last 6 days….PERIOD
You know as well as I do
That it ain’t over ‘til it’s over. Definitely need better execution from here on out though…Or it could be over pretty quickly haha
you call it execution, I call it lack of hustle and complacency
the pay you reference with Wallace was all about attitude and lack of hustle. It had nothing to do with execution. the pierce turnover and the last play certainly were about execution but long before those plays killed us we lost this game by not going after rebounds or fighting one another for rebounds, and not moving our feet on defense. Tanguay said it best after the game when he said this team doesn’t want to play defense. defense is hard work and these guys don’t want to put out that effort. they are lazy and soft and it starts with wallace. that guy has been poison for this team.
Totally agree
That Wallace’s play was all about hustle. That play wasn’t part of my execution argument. After it was clear that the hustle/rebounding/defense wasn’t there, I was looking for a silver lining and thought late-game execution could be it. Unfortunately, it wasn’t.
When this season is over, Danny needs to blow this team up
right now there’s not one guy on this roster I wouldn’t trade. we need to get younger, stronger, faster and more athletic. Will we lose a ton of games? yes, but it has to happen. KG is done, Pierce plays like he’s done, Wallace was done 3 years ago, ROndo is regressing, Perk is who he is. davis is undersized, daniels is a bust etc etc. You could argue that you build around Rondo ,Perk and Davis but I’m not sure about that anymore.
They do not care at the moment
I agree that the Celts can lack focus and at times are not interested in the game at hand. I believe they just don’t care about inferior opponents. Maybe a better example of how they play is the game against Cleveland. They won by the skin of their teeth but they won. I would not be surprised if we see those Celtics through the playoffs-a team that can get focussed enough to win.
As you all know, the defense get jammed into the paint during the playoffs. It becomes a half court game which fits the style of this team. I believe that in the playoffs, they will not be playing down to their nightly opponent. But at the moment, they don’t really care about who they play. And it shows.
These players are lucky
If I perform this poorly at work, I would have been shown the door a long time ago, especially in this economy. The lossing alone is annoying enough, the lack of effort really makes it look the worst.
I just don’t see how they can suddenly become a contender after April 15. Maybe the tax thing is bothering them.
WWLBD? +1
Tip to Tenacious D—Larry would have called Sheed out in public over that disgrace (and others this season). Two years ago KG would have burned a hole in his fat man boobs with a glare. Not now. Paul has never been the vocal, take charge C so that’s never going to happen. Doc doesn’t know what to do with him—he’s beyond coaching and discipline and has been for as long as he’s been in the league.
Guy is poison—you can see how he has affected this team’s body language and demeanor—esp. Perk.
Starters with 15 turnovers, outrebounded by 10 -
And a D-leaguer in his 2nd game goes 17 and 18.
Duhon +17, Rondo – 11
by nba is the worst on Apr 7, 2010 9:56 AM EDT reply actions
Why no Nate and Finley?
So the Celts need a 3 to tie the game, why not put Nate and Finley in for KG and Rondo? I would think they would give you 2 more 3 point shooters and would halp spread the D. Am I wrong? I’m thinking that’s what I would have done.
I'm not saying Wallace played awesome...
But I think the Paul Pierce’s streetball pass to nowhere in the 4th defined this game more than Sheed’s non-rebound. Rondo had multiple passes that were more flash than premeditated. Pierce’s 4, Rondo’s 3, Ray’s 3 and KP’s 3 turnovers defined the game.
The other issue was defense rotation. The whole team was often one step behind where they needed to be once they got into shifting between three defensive matchups on one dribble drive play. Sheed was part of that problem but he’s not the sole reason we lost the game. The starting 5 made 3 buckets for a total of 7 points in the last frame (three 2 pointers and Pierce’s 1 made free throw, his only point in the 4th) and the team missed 8 free throws for a 63% night from the line.
I’m surprised that no one has mentioned the disaster of a play the Celtics ran to end the game. Awful. Just awful. And that’s what worries me. A team should be able to assemble a respectable play for the last shot of the game and not have 3 guys running circles 30 feet from the hoop.
What's the matter? The CIA got you pusing too many pencils?
"Bogut`s Elbow" = Boston`s ONE & ONLY hope of seeing the 2nd round
Miami : 11-2 over past 13 games
Charlotte : 12-5 over past 17 games
Look at Miami's recent schedule
They’re not gonna beat Boston.
by TheOutletPass on Apr 7, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but...
The Heat have been feasting on crappy teams lately. Wade aside, is there anyone on that team who overmatches one of our guys?
by TheOutletPass on Apr 7, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Rasheed
I made a note of that exact same play where Wallace let Barron out hustle him to the ball. Wallace’s lack of effort on that play was glaring. and I will disagree with one thing – I think Sheed was in much better position to come up with the rebounds. Either he can’t physically do it anymore, or he just doesn’t care. Either way, it isn’t good.
The Celtics flaws are not all his fault, but his play this year is a major reason the Celtics are so flawed. Danny would have been much better off trying to find a young player who would play with energy, then bringing in Rasheed. Eat the contract if you have to, but Sheed cannot be part of this team next year.
And one last point – someone write this above and I agree completely. It is time to stop doing this game by game analysis. When you see the same flaws over and over and over again, then it is no longer a one game problem. The Celtics are a team that turns the ball over too much, can’t rebound, can’t get stops when they need to, lose out on nearly every hustle play in a game, and can’t execute in situations where they have to. That is who they are, and that is not good. This season has been a failure – from Danny Ainge on down. You don’t play .500 basketball for over three months and then suddenly transform into something else come playoff time. It isnt happening – that is not being negative of pessimistic, it is just being realistic.
TRUE BIG PERM
one game above .500 since xmas
and one round in the playoff’s from our season being over
(the fat lady’s warming up her vocals right now..)
by CELTICZ4LIFE on Apr 7, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Its not a lack of execution,its age
Last night was a perfect example of fresh legs running circles around a Geritol tour of basketball players. Now they want the refs to help them win games. They spend too much time complaining to the officials. KG is not the intimidator he once was. Unless of course you throw 5 point guards ou there, than he’ll try to push them around. He tried to do it to Gallo and he lit him and the Celtics up for 19pts in the 3rd Qtr. When you take a risk to win now sometimes this is what happens. Their future is bleak. You can “blow up the team” but where does that take you? The lottery, empty arena and fans into hiding again. Talk about first to last
relax buddy...
the Celtics are no-where close to last. They are still going to win close to 50 games this year and that is considered a bad year. It is almost like you want them to blow it up so your team can have a chance at a playoff spot next year.
When the Celtics were bad people were still going to games. This is Boston, there will always be interest and our teams will always be competitive.
Enjoy the win.
I'm tired of making excuses for this team
To see how they started out the year and how far they have fallen makes me sick.
After Sheed’s outburst vs. the Cavs – I would have suspended him. Doc had the opportunity to set an example and he completely rolled over. His comments after that game about how Doc doesn’t expect an apology from Sheed tells you about Doc & this team.
These guys cannot be told what to do. Period.
Wallace does NOT respect Rivers...or anyone else
He didn`t respect the Celtics enough to get in shape for this season.
It all started when they went on their “recruiting trip” to sign him.
Instead of being flattered by their interest, and going all out to repay them on the floor out of appreciation…he saw it as a “sign of weakness” on their part.
He saw a team that “needed” him…he could exploit them, make his own rules, hold them hostage.
Rather than display a “backbone” and admonish Wallace…Doc, Danny, KG, PP have chosen to walk on egg-shells so they don`t get on his bad side and “lose” him.
Sheed is disgusting…the Celtics are disgusting for tolerating it!
It's pretty sad
and i think it has rubbed off on Perk & Baby. I don’t see the same desire from those two this year.
Then you're not watching the games
Because Baby is busting his ass out here. Every single game.
by TheOutletPass on Apr 7, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Not the effort
the attitude…i guess everyones attitude on the team seems to have changed.
I think I expected more from Baby after last year. I thought he would be huge for us this year.
When I saw Sheed standing thereand just watching as Barron got the rebound I yelled at my roomate "What the F is he doing, he was closer to the ball than the other guy."
Its easy to see that Sheed is really lazy and doesnt really give a damn about contributing. There were actually a couple of those plays last night where the Celts decided to let the Knicks get an easy rebound instead of fighting for the ball. That game had the least effort from the C’s than any other game in recent memory.
I said the SAME THING
There was one time that same thing happened towards the free throw line where David Lee grabbed it. Unbelievable.
Major negativity feeding on itself
Why should Rondo work hard to win the Knicks game? Why not just have fun without caring about outcomes? And why should Sheed fight for that rebound? What if he dives for it and breaks an ankle?
None of these games matter. At all. There is no reason to work hard to win. They’re going thru the motions, and will continue to do so until game 1 of the playoffs. So quit yer worrying and just feel the love, baby, feel the love.
by DRJ1 on Apr 7, 2010 1:17 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I honestly understand why the game might come across as meaningless
You know, it’s the Knicks six games before the playoffs, which are guaranteed, etc. But, as I pointed out in the article, there really is no excuse to not execute in the final minute. I mean, if they’re in that situation…a two-point game with a minute left…even after you haven’t put forth any effort throughout the entire game, why not just execute your sets? I mean, there’s never a bad time to practice late game execution. Never. It’s one of those things you really can’t practice enough.
true, and
sometimes sets don’t work out. no tragedy.
by DRJ1 on Apr 7, 2010 1:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm with you on this one
They phoned in the game, lost at the end. Doesn’t mean much one way or another.
They’ll probably have a really good one in the next few days.
by TheOutletPass on Apr 7, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Get ready to see...
…the Celtics “going thru the motions” during their brief playoff run.
Andrew Bogut`s elbow is the only hope of Boston playing any games in May.
It`s guaranSheed!
While most other real contenders are winning most of their games down the stretch
The “we don’t care” “the games are meaningless” Celtics are 8-8 in their last 16 games with everyone healthy. I simply cannot wait for the delusion to end. What happened to all of those posters who told us to watch what happens when this team gets all of its players back. They have, I am watching, and it has been less than pretty. I hope that I am wrong and some miracle occurs that pushes this team to he championship.
*laughs*
Even you’ve got some hope Vinnie! Championship? Not this year.
But making it to the conf finals would be good.
by TheOutletPass on Apr 7, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
the Eddie House CURSE !!! ???
looks like Eddie brought more to this team chemistry than we think.
He was always there being a positive guy.
Why bother with this team......reallly
The weather is nice…..spring is in the air…. Red Sox are playing…. Celtics are only going to let us down after the 1st Round of the playoffs….
So why bother
Prepare for the worst and hope for the best.
All I can say is that I have already made peace with the fact that this team is probably not going to make it past the second round (or even the first round for that matter) so all I am hoping for now is that Kobe does not get another ring.
I have reached a point where it is easier to get on here to find out the scores after a game if it is not broadcast on cable, I just cant take the frustration of watching botched plays, Sheed lumbering around the court, PP being stripped and falling on the floor like he was tripped, its so bloody frustrating. I would rather know about a loss the next day when i am already detached from the game.
Quisy is a bust, Sheen needs to be gone, we need a true back up PG for Rondo, keep Ray, get rid of Finely, PP and Scalabrine. Start afresh.
@ Oliveira
When I wrote “blow up the team” I was quoting one of your fellow Celtic fans. What was their record before the KG and Allen?? I don’t know exactly what it was, but I do know they were in the lottery (they traded their pick to Seattle for Allen) So how competitive were they?. Now you’re looking at an old KG with a bad knee and still owed a ton of money. Way over the cap with no draft pick. And don’t think because of “tradition” players are going to trip over each other to sign there. There are no other Gm’s that are former teammates of Ainge, so no more presents. Even KG rejected a trade to Boston. Ainge had to make the Allen deal to get KG to go there. You can tell by the look on his face he’s done. They could’ve had a future with JJ and Walker but DA traded them and House for Nate???? He barely plays. I thought he was going to be a spark off the bench. He’s already in Doc’s doghouse for missing a defensive assignment. How quickly the tide turns in the NBA.
@ knicksfan4life
You’re right they had a few bad years after their playoff run when Antoine was hoisting 3’s. Are you trying to tell me that the winning-est team in NBA history isn’t typically competitive?
Listen, I understand that people want to hate. I honestly don’t get it but that’s fine. Question for you: What are your motives posting on this site, to tell us that the Celtics suck and are doomed?
I would understand your argument if you’re team was actually relevant.
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