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History Repeating? (1969)

A team of former champions stumbling through an injury and age plagued regular season, only to make a historic run through the playoffs...

Stop me when this sounds familiar.  For the over 50 crowd, it should be even more familiar.  In fact, it must seem like a bit of deja vu.  Our own Drjman penned the following comparison back in March.

History says that there is still hope - CelticsBlog

A team that parallels the current squad in many facets is the 1968-1969 championship squad. This was the last edition of the Bill Russell era dynasty. They finished the regular season with a 48-34 record and were limping through the regular season. This was a team that everyone in the NBA thought was vulnerable and past their prime. Maybe they were but they had experience and heart. The Celtics battled their way to the NBA finals and the stage was set for another showdown with the Lakers.

Something was different this time though. This time around the Lakers were so confident that they were going to knock the Celtics, who had tormented them so much over the years, off that they planned a huge celebration for the conclusion of Game 7. Tommy always references how L.A. had balloons strapped up in the raftersand were poised to drop them as soon as the Lakers finished off the Celtics. The great irony was that the Celtics would those balloons as a sign of disrespect. This fueled the veteran team and motivated them to defeat their rival.

What the rest of the NBA and the Lakers didn't know was that this Celtics team was like a wounded animal, backed into the corner. They knew that this was their last hurrah. Player coach Bill Russell and Sam Jones each were poised to retire at the conclusion of the NBA Finals and were considered a step slower at this point in their career. Sound familiar? Despite being an extremely long in the tooth veteran team, these Celtics came together and percevered all the way to a championship.

Very well said.  We could well be seeing another proud champion fighting for one last hurrah.

A word of caution though.  The situation was different in the regular season, but the 1987 Celtics also battled injuries and age in the playoffs, only to fall short to one of the best Lakers teams ever to take the floor.  Thankfully, it doesn't appear that any of our players is playing on a broken foot like Kevin McHale did that year.

One last bit of history to note: Steve Bulpett makes the case that this team might actually be better than the team from 2008.  So far they are having a better post-season at least.  Here's hoping they can match the Finals result.

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Of course, faith doesn’t do anything either…

by guava_wrench on May 20, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh no faith doesn't do anything @ guava_???

So let me ask you this smart ass…how is it we have faith that everytime we go to sleep we will wake up in the morning…To me that is faith-that the oxegen YOU breath will be their for YOU in the morning…So according to yur comment how did you believe the C’s would be where they are today-certainly it couldn’t have been without some faith-unless you were a doubting spoiled fan who whined everytime they lost.

by Ol' Green Boyz on May 20, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's no jinx!!!!

We don’t know the future. If we play hard and we are healty we can win it all. There’s nothing writing We make our pad.

by celt4ever on May 20, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Jeff's post jinxes the Celts...

… what did hundreds / thousands of Lakers fans chanting “We want Boston” do?

All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino

by Roy_Hobbs on May 20, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bulpett's Article was a good read...

This year’s team is better equipped than the 08 squad, More experienced Big 3 playing at their expectations, the improvement of the bench in that TA, Baby and Sheed is actually way better than Posey, Powe and PJ, add to that the revelation of the best PG in the playoffs in Rondo makes for a very good story in the playoffs. The only comparison its got with the 69 C’s is the they are too old theme and that this yr, we were practically written off at the start of the playoffs as a cameo appearance, one that would struggle against Miami and be blown out by the Cavs. The Celtics have infact baffled every single fan and expert analysts out there who knows the game of basketball. They have overachieved to the point that everyone is actually in fact salivating of a Celtic/Laker Final that im pretty sure David Stern will most likely make sure of (Anyone noticed how we Celtic fans have toned down our griping about the refs…its because for the first time, Im actually seeing fair whistles in the first two games of the series ).

I really do hope this team does not get complacent and continue their march toward banner 18…never let up guys!! GO CELTICS!!

But the C’s are fighting tooth and nail and has already made all the experts out there look like a fool.

"No I’m not KG. Not at all, but I’m Big Baby Glen Davis from LSU, Baton Rouge, Louisiana. I’m not the Big Ticket. I’m the Ticket Stub. Don’t count the Ticket Stub out. You might need the ticket to get in the game, but you leave with the ticket stub, because you’ll never forget this game."

by bopna on May 20, 2010 7:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Reversing the jinx

"The idea is not to block every shot. The idea is to make your opponent believe that you might block every shot." - Bill Russell

Yes, intimidation is the key to domination.

by Marjun Raposon on May 20, 2010 8:10 AM EDT reply actions  

watching that 68-69 team during the season, i never thought it had a chance. russell was tanking it many games and looked old and uncaring. ditto, this year’s team,but no one has outtanked sheed. surprise, surprise, there’s life in the old guys and doc is a prophet.

by nazzbo on May 20, 2010 8:18 AM EDT reply actions  

It was that 1969 team that made me a Celtics fan way, way backi. I have been holding them out all season as my reason for still being positive about this team. Never underestimate the heart of a champion. I also posted on Celtics Green in March that the 1969 team gave me hope that the Celtics would make a playoff run in spite of their regular season.
http://celticsgreen.blogspot.com/2010/03/another-look-back-at-1969-celtics.html

Perk is a BEAST!!

by FLCeltsFan on May 20, 2010 9:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Thank you, FLCeltsFan

Thank you for that post, and for that great, great video. I have never see that one before. Every Celtics fan (and probably opponent too) should see that clip. It was also great to see Russell doing his thing again… that guy was one amazing ballplayer. He didn’t say much to the press, but what he said, certainly in that clip, was from the heart. And to think… that was his last game as pro. Great stuff… Thank you.

by DRJ1 on May 20, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

The work is not done.

"The idea is not to block every shot. The idea is to make your opponent believe that you might block every shot." - Bill Russell

Yes, intimidation is the key to domination.

by Marjun Raposon on May 20, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's ok

If we were the players, it would be worrisome. But their attitude is perfect… exactly as it was in 08… the only thing that matters now is the next game, and then the next, right down to the last one. But as fans… we can look ahead and imagine/conjecture/hope. No harm done.

by DRJ1 on May 20, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

As you said..Ok

Now. We will have either the ‘69 or ’87 version. Hope it’ll be the ’69.

"The idea is not to block every shot. The idea is to make your opponent believe that you might block every shot." - Bill Russell

Yes, intimidation is the key to domination.

by Marjun Raposon on May 20, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

agree- love the story and I remember the series....the ballons never got released??

but…….Game 3 is what is at hand for me…..I want to start screaing BEAT LA BEAT LA….I just can’t do that yet…….

by the way whenever i see a picture of Bill Russell …it is almost a religious experience for me…crazy I know….but true…..

Is it Soup Yet?

by Master Po on May 20, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

The balloons eventually did get released...

They were delivered to a children`s hospital the following day.

by Title 18 on May 20, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I`ve seen it before...

The best part comes at 1:50…when Russell is asked about playing a 7th game on the road.

Russell is referring to the previous year…when they beat the defending champion 76`ers in Game 7 on the road, to complete the shocking 3-1 comeback.

by Title 18 on May 20, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

As one who remembers the 1969 playoffs as if it were last week...

Winning it all in 2010 would surpass it!

The 1969 team was never dismissed to the extent that the 2010 team has been. The `69 team traveled a far easier path through the playoffs! The `69 team only had to beat a weak {yes, weak} Philadelphia team…and a young, “not-quite-ready-for-prime-time” NY team to reach the Finals. This year`s Cleveland or Orlando teams were far superior.

In the Finals, LA had their own “Big 3”. However, they were also aging! Baylor was clearly past his prime, West was 31 {though still great}, Wilt was 33. Funny how that`s never mentioned. Plus, LA had zero talent once you got past those three players. Zero!

The `69 team did take home a “surprising” title #11, and will always remain legendary, due primarily because it was the last time we ever saw Russell play.

Again, take it from one who was around in 1969…a title this year would be much more amazing!

by Title 18 on May 20, 2010 9:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Good one

There were only 3 rounds back then. And agree… this one would be more memorable. Have a look at FLCeltsFan’s video in his post above… you will enjoy it.

by DRJ1 on May 20, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

That young Knicks team won the title the next year

Frazier, Debusschere, Reed, Bradley, Russell (and Phil Jackson on the bench). They were supposed to kill us.

by Datahog on May 20, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Baltimore was actually the best team in 1969

NY swept them in the playoffs in a huge upset.

NY then suffered an early “let-down” against Boston, and it killed them.
Boston`s final two victories in that series were both by 1 point each {both in Boston}.

by Title 18 on May 20, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

agree with this

I posted a similar comparison on realgm and maybe even here way back in the regular season.. Let’s get through this series first though before we start talking about the Lakers. The suns have offered no resistance so the Lakers are a shoe in as far as I can see. We’ve beaten Orlando by 4 and then by 3 so the games have been close and I have no reason to believe that games 3 and 4 won’t be the same way. So all of this talk about the Lakers is way premature.

by Red2 on May 20, 2010 9:29 AM EDT reply actions  

agreed

"The idea is not to block every shot. The idea is to make your opponent believe that you might block every shot." - Bill Russell

Yes, intimidation is the key to domination.

by Marjun Raposon on May 20, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

Let’s hope for ’69, rather than ’87.

All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino

by Roy_Hobbs on May 20, 2010 10:20 AM EDT reply actions  

i wouldn't mind if this team

I wouldn’t mind if this team rested all season developing chemistry and players if they delivered in the post season like this. We would get better draft picks that way.

by ForexPirate on May 20, 2010 11:01 AM EDT reply actions  

I like this.

"The idea is not to block every shot. The idea is to make your opponent believe that you might block every shot." - Bill Russell

Yes, intimidation is the key to domination.

by Marjun Raposon on May 20, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

If Mchale was healthy 1987 would have been ours.

The Celts today still have the killer instinct and heart of a champion. Persevere they will.

by Push on May 20, 2010 11:14 AM EDT reply actions  

So who is going to post the mugs of all the ESPN commentators who picked the Magic in 4 0r 5? I loved the graphic with the red “X” over their faces after the Cavs series.

by JPV on May 20, 2010 11:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Not there yet ... but getting closer by the days

Still work to be done, mission to accomplish. Focus on closing out the Magic first then think of other stuff. Game 3 is crucial. Really can’t let the Magic get back into it.

by getthat18now on May 20, 2010 12:16 PM EDT reply actions  

The Important Thing

is for the Celtics not to get complacent and expect to win without putting out the effort. Having 4 days off gives the Celtics time to over rate themselves and for the Magic to stew and plot to over throw them. I know the rest is good for them, especially Perk’s knees, but momentum wise it would have been better to have the game today. Hopefully they are focused enough to know that they have to come out with intensity this game and not take them lightly in spite of the 2 wins in Orlando. They were close wins, not blow outs.

Perk is a BEAST!!

by FLCeltsFan on May 20, 2010 12:19 PM EDT reply actions  

No doubt

The good news is… this concern (which Doc also mentioned after game 2) doesn’t appear to be a problem. From everything we’ve heard from the guys, they’re locked in. They seem incredibly focused… exactly as they were in 08. Nothing accomplished yet. Nothing for granted, nothing important… other than the next game.

by DRJ1 on May 20, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice writeup

Of course, things would likely have been a bit different in the 86-87 season had their roster included the #2 overall pick in the draft – Len Bias – as it should have. I believe the C’s would have repeated as champs that year. Instead, Celtic luck turned bad (Bias’ death in 86, Lewis’ death in 93 and the near fatal stabbing of Paul Pierce in 2000), and it would be another 20 years before the Celtics returned to the Finals. The loss of Bias and Lewis in a 7 year span crippled the franchise. No other franchise I am aware of lost two players of that caliber to death in the primes of their lives.

by King Coebra on May 20, 2010 3:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Yep.

This is so often overlooked when (some) fans cry about keeping the Big Three together for the next year or two. They claim it wil be just like when we kept Bird+McHale+Parish together a ‘hair too long’. But it wasn’t their getting long in the tooth that killed the Celtic’s competitiveness for the next two decades. It was the tragic, unexpected loss of the lives of two very talented young men.

by mmmmm on May 20, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Two devastating losses...

Particularly the death of Bias…this guy had the “tools” to be a legendary great!

Age-wise…Bias & Lewis were only 2 years apart.

by Title 18 on May 20, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe also the 95 Rockets

Aging Hakeem and Drexler, a very mediocre regular season and many thought they are doomed in playoffs.

by m!sha on May 21, 2010 1:45 AM EDT reply actions  

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