Don't Compare Us To That Other Boston Team
As we look forward to a potential Finals rematch with the Lakers, there has been a lot of talk about this series being over. No NBA team has ever come back from a 3-0 series deficit, meaning that it's very unlikely that the Magic will win four straight. Still, here in Boston we know that "improbable" doesn't mean impossible. The Red Sox came back from a 3-0 hole against the Yankees, and the Bruins choked away a 3-0 advantage just a couple of weeks ago.
Should we be worried, then? Mike Bianchi of the Orlando Sentinel invoked the Bruins in trying to fire up Magic fans before Game 3:
You want to know why this series isn't over?
Because it's headed back to Boston, that's why.
And, don't kid yourself. In Boston sports right now there is something in the air that smells more rancid than curdled clam chowder.
It is the civic scent of uncertainty; the atmosphere of asphyxiation; the helpless feeling, that any minute, the local sports team might start choking and gagging like a Boston terrier with a splintered pork chop bone lodged in its throat.
The Boston Celtics lead the Orlando Magic 2-0 in the Eastern Conference Finals and the general consensus is this series is over. Of course, that's what the Boston Bruins thought a couple of weeks ago when they were up 3-0 on the Philadelphia Flyers in the Stanley Cup playoffs and proceeded to pull off the biggest choke job we've seen in sports since Latrell Sprewell tried to strangle P.J. Carlesimo.
Bianchi might be a bit over the top, but he taps into the only argument that can keep the hope of Magic faithful alive: "If the Bruins can choke, so can the Celtics". It's easy to put together a narrative where the pressure in Boston is so crushing that a choke is always possible, and I can see why Magic fans might feel that way.
However, as KG reminds us, the Celtics and Bruins are two very different teams:
Though Kevin Garnett acknowledged "closeout games are the hardest, the most difficult’’ games to win, he was quick to point out, "This is not hockey,’’ when asked if he had any concerns about the Celtics suffering the same fate as the Bruins.
"I’m not even looking at that,’’ he said. "The Bruins are not the Celtics and the Celtics are not the Bruins. It’s apples and oranges.’’
Injuries killed the Bruins. Yes, the Bruins were up three games to zero, but the Bruins playing in Game 4 weren't the same team playing in Game 1. The Bruins were a thin team made thinner by injuries. They lost Marco Sturm in Game 1, and David Krejci in Game 3. At the same time, the Flyers were getting healthier, as Simon Gagne made his return to the lineup. Basically, it would be the equivalent of the Celtics losing two of their rotation players, while the Magic added a starter to their lineup. Knock on wood, but right now the Celtics are playing at full strength, and so are the Magic. Things can always change, but I don't see the Celtics becoming injury-riddled overnight, and there's no white knight who will come riding in to save the Magic.
The Bruins just weren't that good. Losing a 3-0 series lead is never a good thing, but it's important to remember that the Bruins overachieved in the playoffs. They were a flawed squad in the regular season that struggled to score goals all year long. They weren't guaranteed a spot in the playoffs until the last week of the regular season. Unlike the Celtics, this wasn't the case of an old team sleep-walking through much of the regular season. Rather, the Bruins simply weren't that talented. The fact that they made it past the Sabres at all was cause for celebration, and was due in large part to Tuuka Rask standing on his head. When injuries struck and Rask returned to earth, it was no surprise that the team started to lose games.
This Celtics team, on the other hand, doesn't lack for talent. It has the same starting lineup that won a title just two seasons ago. KG, Paul, Rondo, and Ray have all been all-stars within the past two seasons. The Celtics mediocre regular season record was due to injuries, chemistry issue, and fatigue (both mental and physical); when the Celtics "flipped the switch", it became very clear that this playoff team was different in kind from the team that was so lackadaisical for much of the regular season.
This team knows how to win in the playoffs. Every player in the Celtics rotation has a championship ring. More importantly, this team has won together; among rotation players, only Rasheed and Finley weren't part of the 2008 title team. Experience matters. When the Bruins started to lose, it's arguable whether they had the leadership necessary to step up and get everybody focused. On the Celtics, everyone from KG to Rondo to Doc has been through playoff wars. They well know that you can never take a playoff opponent for granted, as even relatively weak teams can surprise you (case in point, the #8 seed Hawks taking us to seven games in 2008.)
In no way do I want to disparage the Bruins; they're a great franchise, and had a great run. I'm psyched to see them come back healthier next year, with an infusion of talent from either Taylor Hall or Tyler Seguin. However, they're simply a different franchise from the Celtics, and I see no reason at present to be overly concerned that the two teams will share similar fates.
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Not the same, but
the Magic can make this at least interesting. If they can win Game four tonight (a big if), then they go have Game 5 at home where both game one and two easily could have been wins. and then suddenly, it is 3-2, and the pressure will be on the celtics.
the magic looked defeated in game 3 in every way imaginable. i don’t know if they can get up off the mat. but things can change quickly in the playoffs, and the celtics would be best suited if they did not give orlando any life and took care of business tonight.
He's doing his job
There’s a difference between fans from the Northeast, fans from big markets and the rest of the United States.
In places like Boston, New York, Philly, etc…
Fans hold their teams accountable more than any other place. If the teams sucked, they sucked. We don’t want our newspapers sugarcoating it. We can take it!
In other places, telling it like it is can get you fired. You have to be sensitive, Sort of like lying to avoid hurting someone’s feelings.
Whereas Boston will stand by (or at least respect) the negative things Bob Ryan would say against the Boston teams.
Orlando would probably crucify Bianchi had he been more direct. I’ve seen his articles. They are a lot more subtle when it comes to criticisms for the home team, I’m sure he holds back quite a bit.
Thank you, Mike Bianchi
Teams with seemingly insurmountable leads can always use an article like this on the locker room wall to help maintain their focus and avoid complacency.
I guess you can always find some positive spin...if you look really reeeeally hard
Nice work Bianci, but even fans on the pinstripe post are ROOTING for a sweep. That’s bleak right there.
by RedsBean on May 24, 2010 11:07 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
nice work roy
Can’t help but feel that Perkins and Garnett as our back line of defense is like a consistently hot goalie.
Bianchi misses something important
Frankly, the Bruins could probably have beaten the Magic in Game 3. Possibly with their skates on.
Agree about knowing how to win in the playoffs
Celtics are a mentally tough franchise. The Bruins… not so much. Still optimistic about next year for them and the new talent combined with a healthy squad (Savy, Krejci, etc.)
At least we have one team that knows how to win in the spring! Go CELTICS! Finish the magic act and make Orlando disappear.
"Chemistry issues"
A number of featured posts on this site, including this one, state that one of the reasons the C’s didn’t play well in the regular season is because of chemistry issues, but will then turn around and say that the reason we have such great chances to win a title is because most of the team has been together for three years and are obviously championship calibur. Many say that the Celtics have the purest team mentality compared to the other teasm left in the playoffs.
You can’t have it both ways. For one: do we even have proof that there were chemistry problems? I don’t recall ever seeing the Celtics getting heated toward each other during the regular season anymore than normal, nor did they ever throw each other under the bus after losses.
Also, if the Celtics had chemistry issues or bad-blood between each other, how could they just forget all that and start playing at the level they are now? It seems very unlikely that a player would forget his negative sentiment towards another player after an underachieving regular season and begin to play with ubuntu.
To me, “chemistry issues” seems like a cop out excuse for the fact that we don’t know what was actually going on in the Celtic’s heads during the regular season.
Proof of chemistry issues:
KG and Doc admitted them in their press conferences after the Cleveland series.
As for why chemistry is no longer a big issue, KG attributed that to Doc’s influence, as well as naturally dealing with growing pains.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
A few links...
Celticsblog thread: http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=37535.0
Boston Globe: http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2010/05/14/garnett_stands_tall_after_sitting/
And here’s one from earlier in the season: http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/02/04/kevin-garnett-wants-locker-room-issues-kept-private/
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
I know that they have alluded to such issues
but I still doubt they had much to do with on-court results. Most of their on-court troubles are very easily mapped to roster problems due to the various injuries. For example, one of the big killers they had throughout the season was excess turnovers (which were killing the offensive possessions). Looked at closely, the abnormal aspect of those turnovers turned out to be offensive fouls by our younger big men (Perk, BBD & Shelden) – who all were being asked to play more minutes and sometimes in unusual roles due to the injury to KG (and also due to Perk’s knee problems). That problem was solved largely with KGs return. Another big problem we had while KG was out was that we had Sheed playing starting PF – his value is much better coming off the bench at C or PF. That, too was solved by KGs return. A third big roster problem for much of the year was the lack of a second 3PT threat off the bench. Our second-unit’s offensive efficiency was terrible unless Doc kept Ray on the floor for ridiculous minutes. When Pierce was hurt, TA did a great job defensively, but even our first-unit’s offensive efficiency suffered because of the lack of floor balance. That also was part of the reason that Sheed kept shucking 3s (to provide floor spacing). That problem was solved with the acquisition of Finley.
I’m sure that there were internal social “chemistry” issues going on – any group of individuals in stressful times experiences them. But I just don’t see a lot of evidence that they leaked onto the court much, if at all. Or if they did, they were overwhelmed by the weight of the more serious roster issues they often had.
might start choking and gagging like a Boston terrier with a splintered pork chop bone lodged in its throat
or like Vince Carter at the free throw line with 30 seconds to go in the game
P2 is the man.
saw this comment on a basketball discussions out there.. and it might be true (hope not)
For you Laker fans that are disgusted by the loss, long term this could be good for the team.
1. With the Celtics on the verge of a sweep, they’re going to have a long layover. That usually spells trouble in the next series as history has shown us.
2. The longer the series, the better in-sync your team will be to start the Finals (less rusty).
Henry Araton
who writes for the NY Times, has already picked the Celtics over the Lakers in 6.
by Celtsfansince55 on May 24, 2010 1:31 PM EDT reply actions
2 completely different sports
Much better chance of a worse team winning in hockey because the limited amount of scoring. That’s not even taking into account the fact the Boston clearly has at worst the 2nd most talented team in the league where as the Bruins from what I can tell were a good but, great team.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
We`re all familiar with the phrase, "Celtic Pride"...
I have never heard the phrase, “Bruin Pride”
Not exactly fair to Bianchi
The quoted article was written prior to Game 3. It was still somewhat reasonable to hope the Magic had a shot… and in Orlando, that’s what they had to believe.
After Game 3, Bianchi wrote this terrific, incredibly scathing piece about their team:
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/basketball/celtics/view/20100523orlandos_magical_season_turns_to_misery/
So… he can be forgiven his pre-game-3 wishful thinking.
It clearly says that the quote was from prior to Game 3...
I’m not sure how it’s not fair; his quote is taken in context, and it’s in reference to the topic of the day: the Celts / Bruins comparison. If Bianchi gets a bit of grief for his over the top style, so be it; he’s the one who compared us to choking dogs.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
You're right
…this is just ‘a bit of grief’ (certainly compared to the horror of actually being a Magic fan right now).
I've said this before, but the fundemental difference is
The Celtics only hang championship banners, the Bruins hang division flags (maybe it’s conference flags, but you know what I mean).

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