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Cavs Run Too Late This Time

Leading with the pass.

So basically the key to beating the Cavs is to get such a large lead that when they go on their inevitable big run, it isn't enough to come all the way back and win.  They had Celtics Nation very, very nervous during that 15 - 0 run in the fourth.  Losing a 25 point lead would have been back breaking to say the least.  But the Cavs never got it under 10 points and the C's found a way to put them away.

I already gave a separate post to Zombie Sheed, but the other star of this game was Rajon Rondo.  He tied Bob Cousy's playoff assist record with 19.  He was the story of game 1 with his attacking and scoring but was criticized for passing too much late in the game.  Suborn guy that he is, he came out in game 2 passing and facilitating and it proved to be the right formula for the win.

  • Another slow start for LeBron James (by his standards).  Get ready for more elbow excuses.  But once again, it looked fine during that run in the 4th quarter.
  • Strong game for Ray Allen leading the team with 22 points.
  • Complaining about the officials is a pet peeve of mine, but even I have to admit that this was an oddly officiated game.
  • Second straight 18 point, 10 rebound performance for Garnett.  I'd say he's settling in nicely to his new role of wiley vet.
  • Solid game for Perkins.  Good D on Shaq, 10 points, and 9 rebounds.
  • Sheed finished with 17 points.  I'm still shaking my head in disbelief.
  • Rondo said it right in the post game interview: They played the clock not the game and that's how it got away from them.  Only when they went back on the attack were they able to put it away.  Thankfully they did.
  • Celtics now have home court advantage.  How sweet is that?

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I FEEL SO GOOD NADA NADA I KNEW THAT I WOULD!!!!!!!!

WAS THAT GOOD ENOUGH??? sorry for the caps a little pumped

by jbuell719 on May 3, 2010 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

GREAT GAME!!!

despite the ref’s best efforts

by CELTICZ4LIFE on May 4, 2010 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

famous words of rambo .

nothing is over nothing. go celtics ..

lohaus #54

by lohaus#54 on May 3, 2010 10:56 PM EDT reply actions  

I am happy but oddly still angry at the meltdown

I’ll take it……

Sheed is still a Zombie but at least he woke up and walked for a quarter……..

Is it Soup Yet?

by Master Po on May 3, 2010 10:56 PM EDT reply actions  

What meltdown?

Can we have a little perspective? Pleaseeeeeeee!

"You're about as useful as a one-legged man at an arse kicking contest." Rowan Atkinson

by The Village Idiot on May 3, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

15 - 0 is at least a mini-meltdown

no excuse for that, win or loss

"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V

by Jeff Clark on May 3, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah they did

but they turned it around like they should do

- JoeB

by joeb on May 3, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

they did panic?

WOW. if they did then you’ll see a different ending!

by poezappa on May 3, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doc paniced

i panicked too to be honest.

by APC on May 4, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't see panic. I saw anger.

Doc was (rightfully) pissed. He called two timeouts during that run by the Cavs.

The first time he looked pretty animated and clearly implored them to correct something.

The second time he was mad as freaking hell and from what Dickerson and Blakely reported was screaming bloody hell at the team. After that, they promptly put an end to the Cavs run (notably with Pierce attacking the hoop instead of shooting a jumper) and pushed the lead right back to 18 and that was the game.

by mmmmm on May 4, 2010 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

yep, definitely angry

And he should have been. I was pretty ticked myself when Paul let Lebron strip him and lead to that Hickson dunk. Great timeout by Doc.

by Berkcelt on May 4, 2010 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Context matters

When you’re ahead by as many as the Celtics were, this cannot be considered a meltdown by any stretch of the imagination. They made a run, but we showed them who their daddy is.

"You're about as useful as a one-legged man at an arse kicking contest." Rowan Atkinson

by The Village Idiot on May 3, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

agree

not a meltdown – more like a fire drill where no one executed properly and the fire dept has to come in and lecture everyone

by Brendan on May 3, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

celtics if you manage to have a 24 point lead in the fourth quarter, you deserve a meltdown as far as im concerned, as long as you hold on and get the win

by celticcrazy on May 4, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm right there with you Po I

I am really pissed about the meltdown. I should be able to enjoy the win tomorrow though after a nights sleep.

by Mike-Dub on May 3, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome win!!

We got scared in the end but we hang on. 1-1, HCA stolen, yay, see you Friday Cavs!

And great game by Rajon!

by Drucci on May 3, 2010 10:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Simply Brilliant

Brilliant third quarter. Brilliant for the way they withstood the Cavs unreal run and built the lead again. Brilliant, Sheed — thanks for showing up at a good time. Brilliant — Rondo — you are almost always brilliant. Brilliant KG. Nevermind, they all were brilliant. They overcame everything tonight, did not panic and won convincingly. I am shocked, but I certainly love it. Now three days hearing about Lebron’s freaking elbow. As you all know, I love this team, but am not a believer this year. This performance tonight almost put me over the top. Just a brilliant game.

by vinnie on May 3, 2010 10:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Never Stop Believing

we never give up!
It’s all about having the heart of a champion.
we never give up!

by IowaGuy on May 4, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now take it home and keep it going!!!

BTW so freakin’ sick of hearing about the “ELBOW”. He shot 50% FG, just didn’t get a lot of shots (for him). Credit the C’s defense and rebounding.

- JoeB

by joeb on May 3, 2010 10:57 PM EDT reply actions  

GO CELTICS!!!!!!

Yes! Great win guys! we have home cort advantage and the momentum going back to the garden! Celtics in 6.

~Aaron

by bostonceltics on May 3, 2010 10:57 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

A must win game ...and the C's won it.

The team defense once great one again especially on Lebron.

Rondo played great and set the tone with his passing.
Ray also hit some big jumpers.
Sheed gets the game ball though as he had a great game on offense as he got alot of touches outside and down low a got into a nice offensive groove.
Lets hope the big fella can keep it up as if we want to win this series we will need him again to produce.

C’s took 1 out of 2 in Cleveland and did their job to regain home court and take semi control of the series.
Lets get some rest and it will then be the C’s turn to protect their home turf.

by fordescort on May 3, 2010 10:57 PM EDT reply actions  

The reason cavs and other teams can come back though...

Is that rondo stops setting the tone with passing and assists, he stops being aggressive. I believe that he had 0 assists in the 4th quarter. If he stays aggressive for all 4 quarters I think he’s a top 10 player in the league.

by mm mm toasty on May 3, 2010 11:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Rondo in Q4

I wonder why he slows down in Q4 myself. Does he get tired? Dude spends a tremendous amount of energy in the first three quarters, and gets knocked to the floor way too many times. Or is it because the plan is to start giving the ball to Paul to close out the game? Or what?

by Sophomore on May 4, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think that tends to happen

When he plays all or most of the first half. Even Rondo needs some rest.

by LooseCannon on May 4, 2010 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tired

He did play about 45 minutes last night.

by jpd985 on May 4, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeahhhh

Now that’s the Celtics.
Too bad I wasn’t able to join the chat room due to a bug or something.

"Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing." - Vince Lombardi

by wild-a on May 3, 2010 10:57 PM EDT reply actions  

One other thing

They started making that same mistake in the 4th quarter again. They took the ball out of Rondo’s hands and things fell apart. They simply cannot do that.

by vinnie on May 3, 2010 10:57 PM EDT reply actions  

It's amazing

It keeps happening. With the same catastrophic results. Why on earth can’t they figure that out?

by TheOutletPass on May 3, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

I said in the game thread the key in the 4th would be not falling into the Paul-iso game and let Rondo keep running the offense.

We NEED to keep doing that.

Rondooooooo

by RJ87 on May 3, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's definitely possible. Paul was the C's best closer for years.

But there is definitely a changing of the guard right now. I hate to reference the Cavs blog, but they put it best, “Celts are having an alpha dog crisis.”

It’ll get there eventually though, at some point watching so much tape, we’ll figure out how to make things work consistently. Just hope its sooner rather than later.

But terrific game from Rondo, he can dominate in so many ways.

Rondooooooo

by RJ87 on May 3, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

They alluded to it on TNT

That the Celtics had finally realized things ran through Rondo. This was at the beginning of the fourth, right before they took the ball out of Rondo’s hands.

Rondo is incredible. Two games in a row, he’s been the best player on either team.

by TheOutletPass on May 3, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's the problem.

he’s not anymore. we’re way better with rondo controlling the ball and creating. we do this in the fourth quarter and we’ll almost never blow a lead.

by TheOutletPass on May 3, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly. he can take some shots...

…but Rondo should dominate the ball. We do that with a lead, we’re gold.

by TheOutletPass on May 3, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok i agree with that

but im still confident in the captain at the ends of close games

by jbuell719 on May 3, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you might be one of the few who still are.

If we can get Paul an open shot, then great. But Rondo should be initiating the offense. When Paul’s the ballhandler, everyone else tends to stand around & watch and things become stagnant while he goes one-on-five.

We can’t be that type of team anymore.

Rondooooooo

by RJ87 on May 3, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree.

And it’s not like Paul can just blow by guys anymore.

It must be very difficult to admit that to yourself – that the kid, the one you mentored as a rookie, has surpassed you.

by TheOutletPass on May 3, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Paul and Ray are still going to be the primary options to close out

because they are three-way scorers.

They can score on the drive. They can score from beyond the arc and if they get fouled, they are money from the FT line.

However, if Rondo’s recent trend of 80-ish % shooting from the line continues, he will continue to transform into the closer. He is already showing he can score on the drive on almost anybody. He just needs to become more consistent from the outside.

One of the shots that has made Pierce so good in this role is the same one that makes Kobe so good at it – the fadeway from the elbow. If their man plays them soft, they drive. If their man plays them tight they either shoot the fadeaway jumper or draw the foul.

If Rondo develops a consistent outside weapon like that, he could be unbelievably good.

by mmmmm on May 3, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never said Paul (or Ray for that matter) shouldn't be shooting at the end of games

but there’s a difference between getting Paul the ball in his spots late in the game and letting him initiate the offense. I don’t think we’re t efficient when Paul is the primary ballhandler. I don’t mind Paul taking the big shots, he’s still capable of that, but the offensive gameplan changes – in a bad way – when he’s the initiator.

Rondooooooo

by RJ87 on May 3, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, in the past, if the ball was in Rondo's hands

in a 2 pt game – the other team would almost certainly just foul him, expecting him to miss at least one. When he was shooting 60% from the line, that makes perfect sense. With Paul or Ray, that won’t happen.

I agree that we are seeing the emergence of Rondo as a legitimate option as a closer, but he’s not completely there yet. And you also have to be careful about leaving what you have practiced all year. Those plays with Paul in iso are almost always design plays.

Next year? I would not be surprised to see the ball in RR’s hand in the final minute more often.

by mmmmm on May 4, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rondo

The offense running through Rondo was working great, there was no need to change that. This is not baseball, we don’t always need a closer.

by jpd985 on May 4, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

i NORMALLY wouldn't say this -

…but the refs really were bad tonight, i don’t think i’ve ever once complained about the refs here.

Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk

by mcpu40 on May 3, 2010 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

You know what?

You guys know how I almost never get on the refs. That was a freaking joke tonight and the Celts still won.

by vinnie on May 3, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, that's why blaming ref for losses is kind of a cop out

"You're about as useful as a one-legged man at an arse kicking contest." Rowan Atkinson

by The Village Idiot on May 3, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

irony is, on the score sheet I had Boston actually had the advantage from the poor officiating. Cleveland lost more of the “could go either way” as I scored it. Which means Boston got more extra possessions from officiating. All of the egregious poor calls were in Clevelands favour. But in general this was a hideously officiated game.

I’m giving them the benefit of the doubt on the T on Pierce, it’s very hard to judge from the replay what the foul looked like at live speed. And Mo hit the ground convincingly. So again, benefit of the doubt. At the end there I’m kind of surprised Mo didn’t get T’d from all the complaining.

Again I’ll say that it’s worth keeping your own score sheet and taking the exercise to try to be objective. I can tell from the past loss that there are largely two camps. Camp 1 sees the refs as crooked and in the pocket of some non-specific group (some think gambling, some think Stern, etc). Camp 2 is people that are so irritated at Camp 1 that they are unwilling to contemplate the officials argument. The advantage of keeping your own score sheet is you don’t get your opinion swayed by just one or two very bad calls.

All that said. They defended James very very well. A tiny light in my heart always glows bright when he starts jacking up long range jump shots. I’m fully aware that he has the range to hit them, but I know he doesn’t have the successrate from 3 that he does from driving to the basket like a monster.

Everyone is going to see Sheeds offense and be excited. But I was pleased with his defense. There were two plays where he got caught out of position pretty badly, but other than that I loved watching him play in the paint. Hopefully he doesn’t forget that he’s a Center next game. It’s when he starts thinking he’s a shooting guard that we get in trouble. He really does have a very good inside game, especially when they match up a smaller player on him.

by Kungfuguy on May 3, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting stuff on the officiating, KFG

I thought it was mostly a wash, particularly after the third quarter. That doesn’t seem to be the general feeling though (as if it ever is).

by TheOutletPass on May 3, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Cavs benefited from the most obvious poor calls. All the “OMG I can’t believe the refs eyesight is that bad” went in favour of the Cavs. The worst call of the night probably The Travel. Again. And tonight it was even more apparent.

The thing is, most people only look at the free throws as a way of determining how one or two sided a game was. And that really isn’t a very good way of seeing how the officiating was. Because different teams have different tendencies defensively and therefore different averages of fouls. The NFL is the same way, it’s not hard to imagine in basketball. The thing you want to look at is when a team loses a possession because of an incorrect call. Because that effectively stops the offense when it shouldn’t stop, it’s like an interception in football. So tracking the loss and gain of possessions is what you want to do. I track all of the “could go either way” calls because then I can see if it feels like the refs are attempting to balance out possessions with more questionable calls. And the Celtics benefited mightily in that category.

by Kungfuguy on May 3, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed about the free throw disparity

There’s almost never a time when free throws SHOULD be exactly equal. There was an ongoing update in the game thread about the free throw disparity. And every new update fueled the “fix is in” fires. So I really do appreciate you tracking this stuff. It could make us all a lot more sane.

I don’t have your breakdown but I’m guessing we got a LOT of calls in that third quarter. I saw a couple where I could see where the Cavs were probably pretty pissed. And rightly so.

by TheOutletPass on May 4, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

most of our close ones were in the first half actually. In the third it was relatively even. When the margin stretched to north of 15 the Cavs started getting a majority of the close ones. And that generally happens when a lead stretches that far.

by Kungfuguy on May 4, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Last game the possessions lost was horrendous though. I had Boston at 10 behind, which is really high. Most of the time I see it as being around a 5 plus or minus. And it ends up being a zero sum because one teams loss is the others gain. So last game Cleveland essentially got an extra 10 possessions because of the refs. And that’s astoundingly one sided. Again, based on what I usually see. Generally I see around a 5 possession differential so if it’s 5 or less I sort of view that as acceptable human error. That’s why I was livid about last games officiating.

by Kungfuguy on May 4, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I had CLE up by 2

You DID remember to include Lebron’s ridiculous ‘Its-a-crab-dribble-so-I-can-get-away-with-traveling’ move, didn’t you?

Plus the Delonte’ West “Rondo waved his hand near me so I’ll grab my face to pretend he touched me and draw the foul” foul?

38 FTs for CLE. 18 FTs for BOS.

Not unexpected, given the ref crews.

Sheed’s defense has always been good this year – he just doesn’t get appreciated for it until he scores points on offense (which has NOT been good this year).

by mmmmm on May 3, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

depends on who is involved

are you talking about Sheed getting picked or as the switch?

A lot depends on the speed of ball-handler and I won’t pretend that Sheed’s not fast at chasing the younger, athletic PFs around picks anymore. He also is not fast enough to provide consistent transition defense for a whole game – it is important for our offense to be efficient so that he has time to get back down.

Sheed excels, though, at man-up defense in the paint and when he gets to the help side in time to double a ball handler he is suffocating. There is a reason he was 4th on the team in generating steals (behind only TA, Rondo & Nate!). He also understands well how the Celtic’s team defense concepts are supposed to work.

by mmmmm on May 4, 2010 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sheed has had problems this year defending on the ....

perimeter since that usually means he is defending a quicker more athletic player which he can not keep up with speed wise (like most centers can not to be fair to Sheed).

He also to a lesser degree has problems on help defense again since speed here is needed most times and Sheed lacks it (to be fair again …like most centers do.. not just Sheed) .

But Sheed has always been and is still is a very good low post one one on one power defender against bigger slower bigs (like Shaq, big Z , Howard and Bynum etc.) who he can keep up and defend well against due to his length, bulk and overall defensive skills.
He can defend in this type of setting with no problem and is very effective.

I think Sheeds defensive liability’s and strengths depends on match ups ….
if their are only quick bigs on the floor its unfair to ask Sheed to guard them and Doc should go with either Baby or Williams to defend them so Sheed will not be exploited.
But if slower bigs are on the court then he should play Sheed since this is where Sheed can be utilized better and be more productive for the C’s overall.

by fordescort on May 4, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I did, I’m giving them the benefit of the doubt on the Delonte foul because when West was at the line there was a mark on his forehead above his eye. Although I had originally scored it as wrong, I switched it looking at West on the FT line with that red mark.

Sheed was a bit lackluster on defense last game. He was slow bringing help and he seemed kind of disinterested in general getting back. Happened a couple times tonight too. But for the most part tonight he was postioning very very well. And he forced a lot of changes to shots, which is ideal.

by Kungfuguy on May 4, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Which mark on Delonte's face do you mean?

He has several permanent marks on his face.

Sheed’s defense always looks worse when our offense is inneficient, which creates transition opportunities for the opponent. That’s when his obvious lack of youthful fleetness of foot hurts. But when our offense clicks and the other team is forced to in-bounds, Sheed is very good in our half-court defense. Its not that he’s really playing any different. It just looks different because of the nature of the predominant play is different.

by mmmmm on May 4, 2010 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you do mean a new mark, other than his permanent ones

then I’d have to remove that one from my count as well.

I thought the replay showed that Rondo clearly missed him. But I haven’t found a vid yet to see it again.

by mmmmm on May 4, 2010 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've had lots of fingernail marks on me in my life

the line that went from his forehead down his cheek looked like a fresh one. But I don’t have a vid cap to prove it.

by Kungfuguy on May 4, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

agree

Doesn’t the aggressor usually get the most calls? We were dominating this game and yet the Cav’s got 20 more free throw attempts? Why the dispairity? I can see why there is a felling that some games are rigged. Stern is an idiot! He really needs to do something about this. Doc even mentioned that 5 calls from last game that were reviewed were wrong.

by mdg0120 on May 4, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

aggressive is a relative term

The rules in the NBA favor the offensive player. The Celtics absolutely committed more fouls on shooters than the Cavs did. The Celtics absolutely committed more fouls. They were playing very aggressively and very tight on the ball handlers. And that results in a lot of defensive fouls. Even if they aren’t fouls where they get to shoot 2, commit enough of them and they get to shoot whenever we foul.

Here’s the thing. Free Throws don’t tell the story. They don’t. Free throws are very situationally dependent. And events from earlier in the game affect when and how free throws are taken later in the game. Free throws doesn’t tell you very much at all. Even Personal fouls doesn’t tell you that much because bad officiating can result in a player getting credited with a turn over that they didn’t commit.

Try this. Next game you watch. Just run a really simple plus minus chart. Whenever Boston loses possession when they shouldn’t have, put down a minus. Whenever Boston gains or keeps possession when they shouldn’t have, put a plus. Combine that at the end of each quarter and see what you see. Don’t worry about points, or foul shots, or any of that unless you really want to. Just look at the possessions. Because every time Boston gets a plus, that would mean Cleveland was getting a minus. Everytime Boston is getting a minus, the Cavs got a plus. So if, at the end of the game, Boston is a minus 5, it means Cleveland is a +5. Gives you a really good image of how the officiating actually impacted things.

by Kungfuguy on May 4, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

REFS were bad tonight?

are you kidding me? THEY WILL KILL US! see my post below,

by poezappa on May 3, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jesus

Paul Pierce was horrible in that 4th quarter. Might as well gave his jersey to Scal and let him play. Time to step it up PP, according to your quote “Is the playoff!”

by Ragetti on May 3, 2010 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

and where is Celticorlando

he said we were gonna beat badly tonight?? Come on in celticorlando

Is it Soup Yet?

by Master Po on May 3, 2010 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

haha vinnie we still love ya no matter what!!

all celts fans and hopefully this is the continuing of a great playoff run

by jbuell719 on May 3, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

HELLO vinnie!

how’s the pattern? lol. we’re kool!

by poezappa on May 3, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

My Cousin Vinnieeeeeeeeeeeeee...

So have you changed your view of the Celtics yet? Or do you need to see more games before making a prediction?

"You're about as useful as a one-legged man at an arse kicking contest." Rowan Atkinson

by The Village Idiot on May 3, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still think the Cavs will win the series

However, that is my brain speaking. My heart is now 100 percent with the Celtics. I am getting there!

by vinnie on May 3, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

What did I say about winning game 2?

All the angst you put yourself after game one!

Flip it around – suppose they had one game one and then lost game 2.

Would you be as bummed after losing game 2 in that scenario as you were after Saturday?

The net result tonight is the same: That they are going back to BOS tied 1-1 and just having to hold court at home.

by mmmmm on May 3, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

See guys

Orlando is like me. He loves the Celts, but jost not convinced yet. If they win Friday night, Sunday will be nuts at the Garden, and I will be there with my son missing our most important soccer game of the year. If we lose, my assistant coach will kill me.

by vinnie on May 3, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I agree with that

We’ve had the kinds of runs that have gotten us huge leads against good teams.

But we haven’t shown as much of an ability to stop the bleeding.

Different tonight. They did exactly that.

by TheOutletPass on May 3, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

poe -- one game does not a pattern break

However, I am much closer tonight to being a true believer

by vinnie on May 3, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

No Vinnie don't

If I’ve learned anything about being a Boston area sports fan it’s that they wait until they’ve allowed your hope to blossom like a tiny delicate flower so that they actually have something to smash. Keep being a cynic Vinnie, for all of us, so that we get to enjoy it and they won’t choke till next year.

by Kungfuguy on May 3, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's just too negative man!

at least vinnie cracks me up..but yours, way too much!

by poezappa on May 4, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

right on!

did you see the 4Q we relaxed but hey, we didnt panic, we kept our composure! thats what i love about this team. built for the playoffs!

by poezappa on May 4, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha

that’s legit, vinnie.

by jdpapa3 on May 4, 2010 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can't give up the home court

Sheed won’t have another one like this – and the fts probably won’t be even – so the defense will have to be unbreakable

by nba is the worst on May 4, 2010 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

We need to finish them at home!

by Blackberry33 on May 3, 2010 10:59 PM EDT reply actions  

and the announcers were horrid

Lebron and his elbow….shut up Marv and adjust your panties

Is it Soup Yet?

by Master Po on May 3, 2010 10:59 PM EDT reply actions  

I think he's slightly over exaggerating it...

Because he was still able to shoot a decent percentage, all he did was take less shots than usual, which might mean his elbow is inconsistent and he only attacks when his elbow is fine. so I guess maybe it’s something that will get worse and worse as the series goes on

by mm mm toasty on May 3, 2010 11:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think he stopped driving because there wasn’t a lot for him to get. Most plays the middle got clogged up too far from the hoop for him to be able to do much. If anything I think the sleeve is affecting him more than the elbow. It shifted on him a lot in game and he had to fix the pad part frequently during dead times. With the normal sleeve there’s nothing to adjust.

by Kungfuguy on May 3, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

The fact that the C's stayed in front of him was huge.

Ray did a fantastic job – he got in Lebron’s face and almost always turned him into the help defense. And Paul, KG, Sheed, Perk and Rondo all did a great job of closing the help side off.

THAT was why Lebron took so few (for him) shots.

by mmmmm on May 4, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

LMAO

good one, Master Po!!!

- JoeB

by joeb on May 3, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

totally nauseating about the elbow. what about how beat up the C’s have been all year. Bron is feeling better than KG or PP right now

by slamtheking on May 3, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well the best player in the game

is hurt and it shows. I know it sucks to hear excuses, but anytime a player gets injured you hear about it. I mean really, didn’t we hear about KG’s knee and what percentage he was at every game this year?

by Eric9321 on May 3, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's fair

I don’t mind the stuff about Lebron’s elbow. He does look tentative. Seems like he’s picking his spots. I see no reason why he’d hold back or avoid contact if he was 100%.

by TheOutletPass on May 3, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah but we didn’t hear it as an excuse from the national tv commentators every 5 freakin’ seconds. he’s their golden child and very, very protected

- JoeB

by joeb on May 3, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

That he is

but then again, when the Celtics are spanking that ass by the third quarter, they have to find something else to talk about… :)

by Eric9321 on May 3, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't put a lot of stock in the elbow at this point.

And even if it is hurt, after the season of injuries the Celtics have endured – I’m sorry, I just don’t have a lot of sympathy.

I think he’s fine and still dangerous. On the few chances he got to got to the hoop his elbow looked just fine. The C’s simply did NOT allow him to drive very often and no one else on the Cavs picked him up this time.

by mmmmm on May 4, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Have you read the bit by Simmons

To preface this, I’m a Laker fan (from LA, no bandwagon here) but I’m rooting for the Celtics here cause I think the NBA is best when Lakers/Celtics are in the finals, plus I want a bit of revenge.

“One game later, the Cavs were about to close out Chicago. LeBron is at the line, up three, with seven seconds remaining. His elbow is bothering him. He wants us to know this. He makes the first free throw to clinch the game. For the second free throw, he shifts his stance and shoots it left-handed … and misses it. During Chicago’s ensuing possession, he holds his limp arm like it’s broken and winces through the final play. In the postgame interviews, he claims that he’s fine, and nobody pushes him on it … meanwhile, HE SHOT A FREE THROW LEFT-HANDED IN A FOUR-POINT PLAYOFF GAME! What??? Either …

A. His elbow is genuinely injured and the Celtics have a chance in Round 2.

B. LeBron caught the Flu Game on ESPN Classic, said to himself, “I’m too indestructible right now, this is becoming a no-win situation. If I win the title, everyone will say I should have won the title. Maybe I’ll milk this elbow injury, lower everyone’s expectations a little and generate some false sympathy heading into Round 2.”

It’s one or the other. Either way, the door has been opened for a once-dead 2009-10 Celtics team. Just a little."

by remingtonmartin on May 3, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well...

Glad to see at least one laker fan cares for us

by mm mm toasty on May 3, 2010 11:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

dude im sorry but i think ure just scared facing lebron

look at us… you can beat utah..NOT! just kidding.. you are welcome here.

by poezappa on May 3, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1 Master Po Marv remark

"Just to remind you, Orlando made it to the finals last year without this guy. Crazy."~John Krolik

by BS Patrol on May 3, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure that was Marv as much as Reggie

Although the latter’s horribly annoying voice and moronic analysis probably made it more apparent.

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.

by Ben R on May 4, 2010 2:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ray Ray, Rondo, and Sheed(surprise) great games

by Blackberry33 on May 3, 2010 11:00 PM EDT reply actions  

i think we should start listening to DOC!

in game 1 he said Rondo is the key!,rondo delivered
game 2, he sadi we need to get Ray open shots and and then he called out Sheed! you know what happened!

Celtics can stick to their plan and looks like unstoppable!

by poezappa on May 4, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

All we will hear is that we win the game and Lebron is hurt

by Blackberry33 on May 3, 2010 11:01 PM EDT reply actions  

good news

The Yahoo headline gives credit to Rondo’s 19. That’s something. Can’t wait to see ESPN’s slant tomorrow.

by Kungfuguy on May 4, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

definitely a feel good result tonight

amazing how much better this team is when Sheed contributes and the refs don’t manufacture calls. bad enough the refs didn’t call anything on the Cavs for 3 quarters but unlike game 1 they didn’t manufacture the fouls this time and the C’s were able to play through it.

by slamtheking on May 3, 2010 11:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Weird

How taking it to the hole makes things better. We were getting killed until pp drove to the basket and all of the sudden the confidence came back… Maybe the stars lined up at that moment.

by Ragetti on May 3, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Great point

by mm mm toasty on May 3, 2010 11:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

we relaxed!

but we kept our composure! sure PP stop the “bleeding” but the way i see it, its more of our composure, we didnt panic! but hey enjoy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by poezappa on May 3, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Please do not overlook the performance of KG tonight

18 and 10. Another thing about which I am shocked, but KG looks to be about 90 percent of the player he was when they won the championship.

by vinnie on May 3, 2010 11:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Good point vinnie

He played a nice game tonight and has looked very fluid and healthy in the playoffs.

by fordescort on May 3, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks to Rondo!

in the 1st half it looked like the 4Q of game 1 when everybody went cold! but then Rondo threw several alley oops!
defense wise superb!

by poezappa on May 3, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm on record - reports of KG's demise is a complete myth.

As I’ve said all along, KG’s stats show that in almost every measurable way, in the games when he has been healthy, he played pretty much as well this year as back in 07-08.

by mmmmm on May 4, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Conservatively, I'll assume he's been healthy whenever he's played.

His stats for this year are very similar – practically identical on defense – to 2007-2008.

That includes every game he played this year.

Pick out whichever ones you think he might have still been ‘unhealthy’ and throw those out. His numbers then look slightly better.

by mmmmm on May 4, 2010 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Still 31-16 fouls in their favor

by Blackberry33 on May 3, 2010 11:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes Blackberry. I will get crucified for this, but the officiating was PUTRID

However, it shows that if the Celts forget about the refs and play their game they can still win

by vinnie on May 3, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

i saw that too!

composure + consistent quality offense(of course given our GREAT D’) REFS and Cavs are still no match!

by poezappa on May 4, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

The 1st half was ridiculous

16-4 fouls, 18-5 fts

Overcoming that was phenomenal!

by nba is the worst on May 4, 2010 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am in heaven, everything is beautiful

But I am also sick’n’tired of hearing about Lebron’s elbow. The excuses began form the middle of the third quarter. Poor Reggie.

by Sebal on May 3, 2010 11:03 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

"Just to remind you, Orlando made it to the finals last year without this guy. Crazy."~John Krolik

by BS Patrol on May 3, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

-20 FTs and still won by 18. Whatever, refs

by cheekmeister on May 3, 2010 11:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope we`ve learned our lesson from this 4th quarter....

…but I will definitly sleep with a smile on my face tonight.

by Casperian on May 3, 2010 11:03 PM EDT reply actions  

MO, Lebron had a bad shooting like Paul, Ray in game 1

they lost but they didnt collapse and and the big difference
was when they dont shoot well its a blow out!!!

by poezappa on May 3, 2010 11:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Double Standards

Pierce has shot poorly the first two games of this series. I have not heard the announcers mention the injuries he has suffered with this year, which surely must be affecting him somewhat. If LB goes off for 50 in game 3 but they lose, then what is the excuse? Mo’s headband was too tight? Delonte stayed up too late polishing his guns? V’s hair got in his eyes? I mean, come on. The Celtics were supposed to arrive in wheelchairs and nobody is given them much credit. All we are going to hear about is THE ELBOW. LB will look like a hero if they win and have a ready excuse if they lose.

Is is just me or did all of us Celtic fans sleep like babies last night………..

by JPV on May 4, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

thats what im talking bout… good win fellas all we gotta do is stay focused and play smart… in what da helll got into sheed.. it was like watching a complete different player.. pulled the win with the refs on the payroll

by ChristianW15 on May 3, 2010 11:05 PM EDT reply actions  

this is the first celics game i watch in a while(i live abroad)

we have SO many mismatches. Rondo can do what he wants against williams/west/parker, same for ray allen. KG and Sheed can get us a good shot every time against hickson, varajeo or jemison.

but i really hate our offense with PP handling the ball. he should be coming of screen, posting up or spotting up for 3 when we run our offense through KG or Sheed.

also, do you think if they look for Sheed early when he gets into the game, he will play harder? i just had a feeling when he hit that fist pick and pop jumer that he would go off. guy looks bad on D but he’s still pretty good in the post, especially with the matchups in this series.

by celtsfan907 on May 3, 2010 11:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes about getting Sheed more involved...

Get him more touches and looks especially in the low post like tonight and I think he well be better off…so will the C’s.

by fordescort on May 3, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another big hats off to Doc

I honestly think his publicly calling out Sheed worked magic tonight.

by vinnie on May 3, 2010 11:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Beat me to it

Doc was fantastic.

Calling out Sheed worked.

Great timeout in the fourth when it was clear his team simply wasn’t focused. He may have saved the game with that burst of fury he laid on them.

by TheOutletPass on May 3, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it was incredible

I don’t ever remember him doing that.

And it may have just saved the game.

by TheOutletPass on May 3, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea

Doc was phenomenal: both setting up for the game and his rotations, timeouts, etc. My only issue is that maybe he put KG back in a little early in the 4th. I feel Glen Davis is one of those players that is good to have in for when you are up 20 and need energy. He’ll get a few o boards and generally work his butt off. But, KG has to get used to the team counting on him for 38 + minutes. I can see either side of the equation. Hats off to doc!

by jdpapa3 on May 4, 2010 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

yep

you can only do it so many times before sheed just goes nuts, but saving it for this game made sense

by Brendan on May 3, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly -- this is the happiest I have been since Christmas day

The Celtics won and I want to post all night. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

by vinnie on May 3, 2010 11:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Where's the PATTERN???

did you see any pattern?
2nd half collapse? we relaxed a bit BUT did we panick? Think!

but is saw one pattern! REF IS KILLING US!
now im convinced! its in the pocket!
this is going to be a tough series, imagine if Ray, PP, had a bad shooting again like the 4Q in game 1?
NBA want to give LeQueen a Ring!
we only have one way, be consistent on offense because even if we continue our great D’
REFS will definitely kill us! and thats the pattern you guys were talking about.

by poezappa on May 3, 2010 11:08 PM EDT reply actions  

THREE MORE TO GOO!!!

I can because I will.. Makes sense?

by Mizzy21390 on May 3, 2010 11:09 PM EDT reply actions  

good news is that

even though we lost a chunk of the lead we still won

by Red2 on May 3, 2010 11:10 PM EDT reply actions  

we didnt panic! thats why!

and thats our main advantage over these arrogant “dominant team”

by poezappa on May 3, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

My apologies to ...

anyone who I ever questioned as to why they dislike Lebron. Has there ever been a bigger prima donna in the league? Maybe Kobe? It’s unreal the way these games are officiated and I always hate ref bashing but my gosh, it sure looked as if the league has an agenda in the first half. It’s also nice to see Barkley proven wrong. His act does get old and I do think he’s a C’s basher.
On a more positve note, wow, what a game. To me, it’s clear the C’s are a better team then Cleveland, at least the last two games. How can anyone say that Rondo is not the main key to this team’s success is beyond me.

by C'sFanDan on May 3, 2010 11:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Kobe

Has his faults and I will not argue, but he’s not near LeBron’s level. Kobe’s playing with a broken finger for chrissake, meanwhile I have yet to hear an interview where LeBron doesn’t mention his elbow.

Also the officiating was crap against you guys, was how I felt watching us play OKC. Props to y’all for pulling through.

by remingtonmartin on May 3, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Barkley does hate the Celtics, it goes back to his Philly days, I don’t really think it’s deeper than that. It is annoying though. I just would like to see him admit how dead wrong he was about the KG/Jamison matchup.

by Berkcelt on May 4, 2010 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

My wife is watching the games with me and becoming a fan. Very cool. She asked me with a straight face whether Barkley had a stroke, drunk or learning disabilty. I told her it was just idiocy.

by JPV on May 4, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Saw commercial other day for Avatar DVD and it showed the trophy and snapshots of Kobe and LBJ

Of course they want that match up to happen unfortunately they have to play the C’s bABY!!!

by Ol' Green Boyz on May 3, 2010 11:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Think abou't this..

 when the Celts won it in 08 they came out hard in the 3rd quarter So i hope they keep it up . Also i believe (and who am i ) that the magic number for the c’s is 99 pt’s if they can get there it will be hard for any team to beat them .

by flinttown on May 3, 2010 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Mike Brown said Lebrons ELBOW is fine.

by Blackberry33 on May 3, 2010 11:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Okay -- time to watch the Suns - Spurs

I may pull an all-nighter. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Planning my daughter’s high school graduation party and looking at how much college will cost is keeping my up most nights anyway.

by vinnie on May 3, 2010 11:15 PM EDT reply actions  

oh ya read about that in simmons book

screw the barrys never disrespect mr. Russell like that

by jbuell719 on May 3, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

DUDE.

How Russell didn’t lay him out is beyond me.

"Just to remind you, Orlando made it to the finals last year without this guy. Crazy."~John Krolik

by BS Patrol on May 3, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

As usual, Russell got the last laugh...

That remark ended Barry`s broadcasting career as a color man!

by Title 18 on May 4, 2010 7:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

More physicality from the C's tonight

I liked that. Cost us some fouls at times, but we smacked them around now and then. I think we’re ultimately tougher than they are. We should keep it up.

by TheOutletPass on May 3, 2010 11:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes we are at our best when we play

 aggressive ball on offense and especially on defense.

by fordescort on May 3, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is a good strategy on CLE

because CLE is a very poor FT-shooting team.

So long as we have fouls to give, we need to use hard fouls as much as possible.

Case point was in the second half, Sheed pounded Hickson’s shot hard – got mostly ball but got called for the foul (the shot missed). Hickson then made only 1 of 2. So even though Sheed picked up the foul, the key thing is on a drive up the paint CLE only got one point for the possession. We then promptly scored on the other end.

CLE shot 68% for the game.

Whenever Shaq is in the game, hacking him should be the operating strategy.

by mmmmm on May 4, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good point. Free throw shooting in the playoffs is critical and the Cavs are the worst in the league. Mo and West are there best FT shooters but with LB controlling the 4Q, they will never see the stripe. LB is a good FT shooter but he can/has bricked them in crunch time. Also, you will not see Shaq in the 4Q of a close game for this reason. That signing will prove to be a bust once this series is over. The Cavs will be back to the lottery next year after LB leaves (by the way, you want to motivate a team and a city? Announce that you are staying with the team at the MVP news conference. I mean, he had all his teamates there as well as many fans and friends. He left the door open with his comments that he could leave. He is gone Cavs fans. It is this year or 2051).

by JPV on May 4, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Props to you, Greg

You predicted it. Sheed did it. Don’t even know what to think or say about him anymore. He boggles my mind. And I’m gonna say “told ya so” because after last game I posted that I wouldn’t be surprised if it was a C’s blowout in Game 2. Of course I was in no way 100% confident about that, but I really thought it could go this way.

by 34green on May 3, 2010 11:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Glad you remembered, 34green

I was going to mention it in a post tomorrow…I actually believed what I said too. I wasn’t just saying something crazy in the hopes that it would come true. I firmly believed ’Sheed would help us at some point this series and he came up big tonight.

by Greg Payne on May 3, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotta love this

tastes much sweeter because Lebron was presented with his MVP award!

by Celtics own the refs on May 3, 2010 11:22 PM EDT reply actions  

From ESPN-Boston's Chris Forsberg....

Stat of the game: The Cavaliers went 19 minutes, 26 seconds without committing a team foul, a span that included the entire second quarter. The streak finally ended when James fouled Paul Pierce with 7:04 to play in the third. It’s not the first time a team went an entire quarter without a team foul, as the Miami Heat played the entire first quarter of Game 5 without a whistle.

- JoeB

by joeb on May 3, 2010 11:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I know we won...

…but something is very wrong here

- JoeB

by joeb on May 3, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perfect enough shooting to overcome referee bias

Boy those refs sure did everything in their power to help the Cavs again.
Tonight it just wasn’t enough though, Celtic shooting was too hot.

by Snowball on May 3, 2010 11:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m kind of surprised that a lot of people feel that way. The free throw discrepancy did look bad, and when Marv said the fouls were something like 21-7 in mid-third, I was starting to think dark thoughts but then we started to get a lot of calls. Being the aggressors at the time, it made sense. I also thought part of the FTs was a lot of dumb fouls in the fourth.

I was also ready to go nuts in the first quarter because for at least the first five minutes, the refs would not call a foul on either team. It was kind of strange but they went both ways.

by Berkcelt on May 4, 2010 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

We should be up 2-0, but I'll take the split.

We’ve been playing 8-5…We’ll see if we can’t turn that around when we come into Boston.

USG

by Ben Buchanan on May 3, 2010 11:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Did you see Rondo Shouting in the FT line?

when he was fouled by Varejao? is that part of his rituals? or he just cant breath thats why he was shouting? freak me out man!

by poezappa on May 3, 2010 11:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I did see that...

And found it very strange. I think it is just part of his ritual.

by Mike-Dub on May 3, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was trying to read his lips and figure out what he was saying, but there’s no way to do that with him. He was probably shouting at 90 mph.

by 34green on May 3, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought he was barking out something to his teammates.

But it was hard to make out exactly. I think I’ve seen him do it before.

by mmmmm on May 4, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah! way too fast man!

i dont think his teammates can understand it and it was loud too! really weird. maybe Mike is correct its part of his rituals? i dont know.

by poezappa on May 4, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

If it’s the same play I’m thinking of, I thought it was to his teammates too. I heard “ice, ice” repeatedly (maybe “iso”?).

by Berkcelt on May 4, 2010 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

No - the Delonte West flop was worse.

Delonte grabbed a loose ball under the post. Rondo waved downward at the ball, missing, but it came near Delonte’s face (did NOT touch him on the replay).

Delonte (smartly) grabbed his face as if he got hit. Whistle.

by mmmmm on May 4, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rondo did touch him...

Didn’t you see Delonte’s eye when he was at the free-throw line? He had a huge red mark around it.

by Mike-Dub on May 4, 2010 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

No - I missed noting that.

I’ve been trying to find a vid cap of that play since I didn’t tape this game (got home late).

Delonte’s got red marks all over his face anyway – if its not one of his permanent marks then I’ll take it back.

by mmmmm on May 4, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was above his left eye...

I don’t have any footage of it, but at first to me it didn’t look like Rondo touched him, but after seeing Delonte on the line and with the red mark on his eye I knew he got scratched.

by Mike-Dub on May 4, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

totally agree, they need to not-foul (according to Mike Brown) Mo...

the way Shaq not-fouls Rajon.

One of my favorite plays by Sheed tonight was when Mo flopped on him in the second quarter around the center court, and instead of crying like a baby to the ref, he went over to Mo and with relative calm called him a flopper. He then went back to playing. Yes! Do that! Every time.

He also said something to Mo after the tech on Pierce which I also enjoyed.

by Berkcelt on May 4, 2010 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agree....

TA at the point makes no sense when Robinson a not to shabby point guard and great shooter is sitting on the bench.

I know we want TA on the floor for defense but we traded Robinson for House and he should be getting at least some spot minutes in the playoffs.

Yea his lack of height on defense can be exploited by the cavs but with his quickness and tenacity on defense he can make up for it.

by fordescort on May 4, 2010 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

i hope we keep Nate

although Doc and the team haven’t really figured out his role yet..
Doc going with the sure thing, plugging in Finley you know what to expect
Nate could be a stealth move just have to be careful on D.

by Snowball on May 3, 2010 11:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Doc used TA to spell Rondo tonight.

Finley only got a few minutes – and that was to spell Ray / Paul.

by mmmmm on May 4, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Nate has a lot of learning of the Celtic system to do, but I’m really, really impressed with his energy, hustle, and complete willingness to not be a jerky, selfish basketball player. He doesn’t really know what’s going on, but he’s trying like crazy.

by Ersatz on May 4, 2010 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hope we keep Nate...

….but I agree with mmmm. This is not the time to mess with “success”- as we did when we gave up Eddie. Rondo has been absolutely stellar, and has shown that he can handle the minutes. TA also looks good; especially in the face of all you disbelievers.

Since we picked up Nate, I’ve been dissapointed with his minutes, I completely dissagree with th notion that "Doc and the team haven’t really figured out his role yet::. He’s been waaaaaaaaayyy too unselfish with the ball. He has not adjusted to his own role on this team- especially when starters share the floor with him. His purpose could not be more clear.

That said, its not the time to play around with team dynamics. I was pissed at the fact that Nate did not play more in the regular season; never got his time to shine. He played very few minutes. In doing so, he added insult to injury by banking 3’s off the glass in the closing minutes of games. You all remember this…

I hope that we see Nate fall in to place next year. I hope that we hang on to him. Most of all, I hope that he does win us that playoff game that Doc alluded to.

by 100poundsofbeer on May 4, 2010 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Me to...

I hope he is not moved next year.

He is young athletic a good back up point guard and shooter just what we need off the bench.

by fordescort on May 4, 2010 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

By the way

where is the video of Sheed dunking on Lebron in game 1?

by Celtics own the refs on May 3, 2010 11:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Lebron and Nike probably had it deleted

by Blackberry33 on May 3, 2010 11:39 PM EDT reply actions  

well done

Good game. statement game. now we have a series. Go Celtics!

by FatJohn on May 3, 2010 11:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Still Sweating

From that horror show night of the living dead routine thy pulled in the 4th to make it interesting, but what a great performance, particularly the team D to negate LeBron. Rondo was just filthy out there-after the third lob down low to KG I started laughing out loud. After Sheed made his first bucket you could sense that he was going to heat up and he turned in his best performance as a C at just the right time. kudos to KG who is peaking right now and thanks to Perk for doing the dirty work on Shaq. Good lord does he look like a mastodon out there or what? Bleed Green!!

by McHaleinthepost on May 3, 2010 11:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

did you notice every time REFS will give us a bad call

we will shoot 3 or 2?

case in point:
-Lebron traveled, no calls! reggie was laughing! then RAY answered a 3!
lebron tried it as well…MISSED!

-last 5 mins. of 3Q, Rondo went hard to the basket, no foul! lebron slammed it but then then RAY got 3 point play!

-Technical on PAUL! MO shoot the TFt. MISSED!

big brother is watching REFS!lol

by poezappa on May 3, 2010 11:47 PM EDT reply actions  

it’s amazing what this team can do when they play defense. their d on lebron was great with all the changeups and different looks. cheers to doc and thom t for their game plan. i have picked on perk a lot this season and he has deserved the criticism but in these 2 games against the cavs, perk has played within his game and been a pillar. varejao is sneaky dirty with his elbows. lebra is i big cry bra baby and it’s not his fault that marv was making excuses for him all night long. pp played very poorly and stupidly during the cavs’ run. come on, pp, get with the rondo program. that was a stupid tech that he picked up- bush league. you can’t say enough about rondo. does anyone here think sheed can put together a string of good games- we sure need him to do that as we would probably would not have won if we got the typical sheed game.

by nazzbo on May 3, 2010 11:48 PM EDT reply actions  

congragulations on an amazing victory

I knew coming into post season play people were over looking the Celtics. I’m not saying you guys will win the series or anything, but this definitely shows that they’ve still got it. I don’t care who uses the LeBron injured. He’s got a bum shoulder, but most NBA PLAYERS ARE A BIT BANGED UP BY NOW. cya

Bat88m

by RyanRTE on May 3, 2010 11:53 PM EDT reply actions  

congragulations on the first win

by cheekmeister on May 3, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have to say

Perk’s defense on Shaq in the 1st quarter was awesome.

Sheed, show up like that for the rest of the playoffs and you may just justify having any possible championship ring the Celtics may get. Great job.

Rondo man, when you’re on, the Cavs defense doesn’t know what to do with you. Whether it’s an easy layup or an easy pass to KG, you got it done again.

Now, onto Game 3…on Friday. Man, what a wait! : (

by Tai on May 3, 2010 11:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Perk’s defense would have been awesome on Shaq in gm1 if he just hadn’t bit on those pumpfakes. Glad he cleaned it up.

by Berkcelt on May 4, 2010 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can I play CelticsinOrlando's substitute

I fit a requirement, I am a Celtic’s fan who lives in Orlando…

"Red, Blue and White Ignite"
"Orange and Blue, A Gator Too"

by Give Me on May 3, 2010 11:54 PM EDT reply actions  

On the excellent 'Cavs The Blog'

The Cavs fans there LOVE PP ISOs and are terrified of Rondo.

by TheOutletPass on May 4, 2010 12:19 AM EDT reply actions  

being optomistic

we have won 5 of the 8 quarters in this series.
Game 1- 1st, 2nd
Game 2-1st, 2nd, 3rd

We go back to our house where the calls should be better, we should get the breaks and our bench should outplay their bench. I understand we could be up 2-0, but fellas we goin to the Garden tied with a chance with two wins over the weekend to take home court advantage. Dont get me wrong, it will be hard but if you told me that we would win by more than 15 tonight and bavetta was reffing the game, i wouldnt believe you and we got it done. We got this, if we want it more and i think we do, BTW DID ANYBODY SEE MO WILLIAMS TONIGHT, i didnt. lol sorry for the caps but man we goin back home with a tied series.

by celticcrazy on May 4, 2010 12:37 AM EDT reply actions  

the refs still bet for cavs

Even though its our home floor i think it will still be 5 vs 8.. remember game 5 against miami..

by Celtics own the refs on May 4, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Typical, classless TNT

Did you hear them ask at halftime who was gonna win the Orlando-Cleveland series like it was a done deal already?

by 34green on May 4, 2010 12:40 AM EDT reply actions  

You're probably taking those guys too seriously

It’s a comedy act as much as anything else. And Kenny’s been rather pro-Celtics all year.

by TheOutletPass on May 4, 2010 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kenny still believe in the C's capabilities.

"The idea is not to block every shot. The idea is to make your opponent believe that you might block every shot." - Bill Russell

Yes, intimidation is the key to domination.

by Marjun Raposon on May 4, 2010 2:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I bet that Barkley was pissed…

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on May 4, 2010 12:55 AM EDT reply actions  

YEP

he kept getting an excuse as to why his cavs lost.. HAHAHaHha Who would you believe?
Kenny ( 2 rings and won one as a 6th seed) or Chuck ( 0 rings and lost Finals with home court)

by Celtics own the refs on May 4, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was wrong: We werent swept. Very good game. Rasheed came back from the Neverland; Excellent.

by Reyquila on May 4, 2010 1:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Barkley is a known gambler I’m sure he bet the house on cleveland. Man I’m so excited about this win and the way we played I will not be able to sleep!

by Blackberry33 on May 4, 2010 1:16 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

unsung - Perk

Most haven’t mentioned him, but Perk deseves major props. Great defense tonight.

+20 for the game. 9 def rebounds. no stupid mistakes (only 1 TO!!!). Played angry but in control (almost lost it with sideshow, but kept his cool).

by mmmmm on May 4, 2010 1:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Yes...

the big fella has played excellent defense on Shaq in both game 1 and 2.

by fordescort on May 4, 2010 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

funniest part of the game

listening to the announcers jump back and forth between “we can finally put that elbow nonsense to rest” to “oh…the elbow thing is a really big story….”

by spinz on May 4, 2010 2:13 AM EDT reply actions  

sheed is wondering why he still finished -2

by cheekmeister on May 4, 2010 2:25 AM EDT reply actions  

He was on the floor for the first 7 pts of the Cav's 15-0 run.

Outside of that, he was +5.

Taking him out, of course, wasn’t the answer because the Cavs then scored 8 straight more.

Oh well.

by mmmmm on May 4, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotta to take care of business at home now

Must keep the momentum and send the series back to Cleveland with a 3-1 lead. The opening of the 4th qtr showed we cannot afford to give any chance, none, zero, to LBJ to fight back. Bad elbow or not, he still can score at will, esp with the help of the refs.

The next game in Boston will be difficult as the long break between games gives LBJ time to rest his elbow.

by getthat18now on May 4, 2010 2:42 AM EDT reply actions  

22 years between titles

lakers will pass celts in total championships by 2015 :)

by dodger_guy on May 4, 2010 4:33 AM EDT reply actions  

wanna bet?

im a little short on cash and could use some easy money….

by k.diddy on May 4, 2010 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

No cheating and you have a way to go ....

The LA Lakers only have 10 championships….
The other 5 championships jbelong to the Minneapolis Lakers which you can not steal.

http://sportsbannerspennants.storeblogs.com/files/2009/10/76140-Los-Angeles-Lakers-Banner.jpg

The Boston Celtics have 17

http://product.images.fansedge.com/35-73/35-73669-F.jpg

by fordescort on May 4, 2010 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Uh, you should worry about this season before you go counting flags. If ir wasn’t for Gasol, we would all be watching the Thunder in the 2nd round. You should also root for the Cavs hard because the Lakers would rather play them than the Celtics.

by JPV on May 4, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wish I could've watched the game. Go Celtics!

I knew they had what it takes. Baring injury, they should be able to take the whole enchilada and send Kobe home crying again.

by FlubberMcDrool on May 4, 2010 4:46 AM EDT reply actions  

The guy in the pic has been the best player in the series.

"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said

by Birdbrain on May 4, 2010 8:24 AM EDT reply actions  

The win....

…makes me feel happy without worrying too much for about 3 days. It feels good to read any CELTICS-related article right now.

by mjohnson on May 4, 2010 8:30 AM EDT reply actions  

I will also eat my words. Fine display of basketball by the Celtics last night. I think they have a chance, now that Sheed showed up and KG is playing well.

Based upon trends i am seeing I now think they could actually go all the way. As some have said above, it is now all mental. If our brain trust can out think their brain trust (heh heh), and adjust, it could happen. Anything is possible.

by johnnymost on May 4, 2010 9:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Can't quit now..

The C’s need to win the next two wo win this series IMHO. They need to keep focusing on attacking the paint, rebounding, and defending LeBron.

If they win the next two they are obviously sitting pretty, but a let down in either of the next couple games, Cleveland will win the series…

by BWC1977 on May 4, 2010 12:35 PM EDT reply actions  

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