Somebody Stop This Man
by Jeff Clark on May 7, 2010 8:38 PM EDT
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I never blame refs when watch baseball or football.
Or Refs in Hockey. The NBA is the only one with completely bad officiating!
It's a Celtics blog
But if you really don’t want to hear about the Sox, you probably don’t want to come here. Comments get thrown around about them all the time.
by TheOutletPass on May 7, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Mike-Dub...you dont wanna hear about the Red Sox, or about any criticism of the C's
Both teams got blown out tonight, would you rather talk about Tiger?>
An embarrassment
Yes, Lebron has been great, but the lack of effort on defense, and the totally confused play on offense is just startling to me. It’s like these guys never played a game together before.
sadly...i don't think it will be much different
by celticinorlando on May 7, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
it wont be this bad at the very least
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
I smashed my tv.
Now im watching on my computer. I hope that deosnt get smashed too.
Refs aren't to blame...
I see no effort. They just let LBJ pass them.. It’s like they don’t want to win this game or something! How can you let a lead get this big??
I can because I will.. Makes sense?
Somebody wake the Celtics up on the defensive end.
by braz on May 7, 2010 8:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Jeff,
We need you to conjur up all the celticsblog magic you have and make a miracle happen.
We’re counting on you!
Does anybody believe in a comeback for this game?
I don’t…
by braz on May 7, 2010 8:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Come on you guys -- it's the refs and the bad fans
It has nothing to do with Cleveland playing an unreal game and the Celtics sleepwalking through most of it
naah..
I really don’t see how it is the refs this time.. I don’t see any effort and D…
I can because I will.. Makes sense?
Well I feel dumb
Im sorry Vinnie! I couldn’t tell.. :( Im horrible at telling the difference…
I can because I will.. Makes sense?
PAUL PIERCE needs to Opt out of his contract...
The way he mailed this game in he deserves to just be paid the minimum…totally horrendous performance from your all star
"No I’m not KG. Not at all, but I’m Big Baby Glen Davis from LSU, Baton Rouge, Louisiana. I’m not the Big Ticket. I’m the Ticket Stub. Don’t count the Ticket Stub out. You might need the ticket to get in the game, but you leave with the ticket stub, because you’ll never forget this game."
Were did our team go?
I just can understand it. Somebody please tell me how we get home court advanage, and
then forget to show up at the game?
Where is the defense?
Where is the aggressiveness?
I need answers, because I just dont get it.
At all.
Our team didn't really go anywhere
Unfortunately this has been our team for the majority of the year.
sorry...
ain’t no game 6, this series is over in 5, Lebron is healthy, Pierce sucks, Ray Allen slumping again, worsed of all we can’t even get some fair officiating
"No I’m not KG. Not at all, but I’m Big Baby Glen Davis from LSU, Baton Rouge, Louisiana. I’m not the Big Ticket. I’m the Ticket Stub. Don’t count the Ticket Stub out. You might need the ticket to get in the game, but you leave with the ticket stub, because you’ll never forget this game."
So
You want to tell me when I’ll get a girlfriend while you’re at it? 8 )
by Tai on May 7, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
You don't need to wear the green kool aid glasses to see...
Lebron is on a mission and the refs are on a mission…they would probably make the game a bit close in game 4, but believe me, it would take a mammoth effort from the Old 3 plus Rondo to carve out a win in game 4.
"No I’m not KG. Not at all, but I’m Big Baby Glen Davis from LSU, Baton Rouge, Louisiana. I’m not the Big Ticket. I’m the Ticket Stub. Don’t count the Ticket Stub out. You might need the ticket to get in the game, but you leave with the ticket stub, because you’ll never forget this game."
THey need to bounce back, I was wary of a four day break between games, they clearly lost all the momentum from the previous game. I didn’t want much of this game, and don’t plan on watching the recording haha so I don’t know much. I was confused about some of the media saying that this was make or break for the cav’s—-C’s need to feel the pressure of an underdog to perform.
Can someone please tell me what I just witnessed?
I don’t know why I’m shocked. Who told the C’s to go back to the regular season?
I can because I will.. Makes sense?
You know the Garden had empty seats...how do you expect the C's to play then...
Wow commentator called it the Boston Massacre….lol
nice how we got all those token fouls after we’re down 25…..
by David Henderson on May 7, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
LJ's elbow looks fine to me
Did PP, Rondo, Perk all play tonite? Were they even in the building?
Hello? Did the Celtics even try?
Did the REFS fix this game?
Rondo came all by his lonesome..all his passes to PP were missed by the captain
…I wish Rondo was 6’8" like lebron, boy that would be exciting.
"No I’m not KG. Not at all, but I’m Big Baby Glen Davis from LSU, Baton Rouge, Louisiana. I’m not the Big Ticket. I’m the Ticket Stub. Don’t count the Ticket Stub out. You might need the ticket to get in the game, but you leave with the ticket stub, because you’ll never forget this game."
Sure the calls were a little one sided in the first quarter but
all that panned out through the game. This was classic Celtics from the last third of the season. Players on the bench seemed to show nothing. How can you sit there and not have a scowl on your face?
They didn’t seem to care, so we stopped watching. I believe all those that paid to attend this game should get a refund. David “piece of garbage” Stern says it is all about the product. The product on display from the Celtics tonight was bad.
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Sorry you didn't like my description but
these are the end of game stats in regards to fouls:
Cleveland: 24
Boston: 22
foul shots:
Cleveland: 31-34
Boston: 21-29
The fouls only account for 10 points of the lead. Maybe it did have something to do with the timing of the fouls but the did lose by 29.
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now add them up for games 1 thru 3 dude
by David Henderson on May 7, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I won't argue
the first 2 games with you. However, the Cs played hard in both those games.
The team did not stand up for itself. They got gut punched and didn’t fight back.
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the flagrant on perk was total b.s.
that said
we won one game and came in cocky and lazy
pathetic
if we dont win game 4 …series over
Agree the flagrant was correct call
Under today’s rules…
by nba is the worst on May 8, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree on the flagrant being b.s.
The refs may have been trying to protect the elbow.
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Absolutely no sense of urgency
No effort.
Walking the ball up the court.
No effort.
No D.
No effort.
Too many jump shots.
No effort.
Not going to KG enough.
No effort.
You take one game in Cleveland…..Now you have to take another one. Good luck!
Rasheed back to Rasheed.
Where the hell is Pierce.
Not good that Rondo is taking that many shots, no one else getting involved.
Absolutely horrible!
too many people are giving up on game 4
Blowouts happen in tight playoff series all the time. Remember those 40-point monsters between the Celts and the Lakers in the mid-80s. Oh and game 2 of this series.
I get the feeling that he just plain sucks against James
..The King makes PP look like he needs to retire…I even get the feeling Vince Carter is playing better ball than PP in these playoffs.
"No I’m not KG. Not at all, but I’m Big Baby Glen Davis from LSU, Baton Rouge, Louisiana. I’m not the Big Ticket. I’m the Ticket Stub. Don’t count the Ticket Stub out. You might need the ticket to get in the game, but you leave with the ticket stub, because you’ll never forget this game."
End of the 1st Q, James 9-11, PP 0-6
Hard to believe
by nba is the worst on May 8, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Why do I get the feeling...
Paul Pierce AIN’t repeating his game 7 performance of ‘08…he just looks so lackluster out there..he couldn’t keep up with Lebron on defense and his offense was even worst than Anthony Parker.
"No I’m not KG. Not at all, but I’m Big Baby Glen Davis from LSU, Baton Rouge, Louisiana. I’m not the Big Ticket. I’m the Ticket Stub. Don’t count the Ticket Stub out. You might need the ticket to get in the game, but you leave with the ticket stub, because you’ll never forget this game."
hahaha...I knew it...
"No I’m not KG. Not at all, but I’m Big Baby Glen Davis from LSU, Baton Rouge, Louisiana. I’m not the Big Ticket. I’m the Ticket Stub. Don’t count the Ticket Stub out. You might need the ticket to get in the game, but you leave with the ticket stub, because you’ll never forget this game."
Well, Like Ive said a zillion times; We mortgaged our future to get a chance to win Núm. 17 with experience legs. We won it and were left with no legs. About 20 years from now we will get another chance. Dont complain cause we went into it head first. Now our only tradeable asset is Rondo and if we trade him we have no team left to start building around. I have to say we have been very unlucky with our ping pong balls – nobodys to fault for that one. That certainly hasnt help, but luck has not help us any. Very unfortunate weve missed on Bias,Duncan, Oden, Durant, Billups, Joe Johnson; wait! we had Billups and Joe Johnson! lololol. What happened there. Well, we still have Doc- he is all we need to start afresh. I said sweep – well, we werent swept. I was wrong there. Night. Must have been the refs faulf tonight.
Well, we got Nate...who we traded for Bill Walker, who is goin to be a baller someday.
"No I’m not KG. Not at all, but I’m Big Baby Glen Davis from LSU, Baton Rouge, Louisiana. I’m not the Big Ticket. I’m the Ticket Stub. Don’t count the Ticket Stub out. You might need the ticket to get in the game, but you leave with the ticket stub, because you’ll never forget this game."
When all else fails, the "Bill Walker is gonna be a SUPERSTAR someday" chatter begins
Yes, offensively Bill had some talent. But the kid plays zero defense and that’s a tad important on a defense oriented team.
He can be a solid roleplayer for a team like the knicks, for sure… Can he do somethings on a championship contender? Doubt it.
Larry Bird is not walking back through that door.
Kevin McHale is not walking back through that door.
Billy Walker is not walking back through that door.
Rondooooooo
Bill Walker might be on an NBA roster next year
Although perhaps I’m wrong.
Maybe if Bill was rooted to our bench tonight we would have played better…
by TheOutletPass on May 7, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Never said he couldn't be on an NBA roster.
He can be a solid roleplayer for a team like the knicks, for sure… Can he do somethings on a championship contender? Doubt it.
Rondooooooo
Oh, I wasn't poking at you
I just find it funny when his name pops up. As if he’d be doing anything for us.
It’s me that thinks he’ll be lucky to make an NBA roster.
by TheOutletPass on May 7, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh. I think he can be on an NBA roster... Just not a championship caliber team.
Basically, he won’t make a team that makes any smidgen of effort on the defensive end.
Rondooooooo
Here is the thing though...
what if he is?….then that means we made the same mistake again by giving up on young talent, whereas with Nate, we already knew why he was brought in, and he is headed out in the offseason, in the meantime, BW is gonna use the summer to develop and continue to hone his skills which we all do acknowlegde and admit, so he helps the Knicks around 10 ppg next season and who do we got when we need to spell PP or Ray?….no one.
"No I’m not KG. Not at all, but I’m Big Baby Glen Davis from LSU, Baton Rouge, Louisiana. I’m not the Big Ticket. I’m the Ticket Stub. Don’t count the Ticket Stub out. You might need the ticket to get in the game, but you leave with the ticket stub, because you’ll never forget this game."
He helps the Knicks, where are the Knicks right now?
Oh, that’s right – at home watching the playoffs and praying for LeBron on July 1st.
If Billy couldn’t crack that rotation as it stood, he shouldn’t be in the league. Sorry.
Rondooooooo
But he is in the league...
and playing some minutes at that, were is Nate again…in Doc Rivers doghouse
"No I’m not KG. Not at all, but I’m Big Baby Glen Davis from LSU, Baton Rouge, Louisiana. I’m not the Big Ticket. I’m the Ticket Stub. Don’t count the Ticket Stub out. You might need the ticket to get in the game, but you leave with the ticket stub, because you’ll never forget this game."
Agfain, for the KNICKS
Getting minutes on a team that’s in tank mode and being an impact player for a championship caliber team are FAR different things.
He can be a decent role player on a perennial lottery team, but I doubt he’ll make an impact on team that really needs it in the future. His lack of defensive awareness makes him a liability on the floor.
Rondooooooo
yup..he is a defensive liability for now...
but he is young, he’s only 22 or 23 if i ain’t mistaken so all I was clamoring for is we gave up too early on him thats all when we would need athletic bodies to spell PP and Ray next season..
"No I’m not KG. Not at all, but I’m Big Baby Glen Davis from LSU, Baton Rouge, Louisiana. I’m not the Big Ticket. I’m the Ticket Stub. Don’t count the Ticket Stub out. You might need the ticket to get in the game, but you leave with the ticket stub, because you’ll never forget this game."
But do you really think if the Knicks do strike big in Free Agency
and bring in LeBron or a Joe Johnson (or both b/c they have the money too) that they’re going to take away mins from them to develop Bill Walker?
I don’t.
As sad as it is, this season was a stop gap for the knicks and they needed bodies. Bill was there. That’s it.
Rondooooooo
damn.
Do these guys care? Just sit out the rest of the series and let Lebron Complains and the Cavs move on.
by schmalzilla on May 7, 2010 10:04 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Credit to the Oppo
Cavs ran the lead out and traded baskets the rest of the way, never let up. C’s came out tentative and never got going. hard to fathom. For a while, thought it was age/injury. Now? No idea. None.
How the hell did the Cavs shoot 60% from the field in our house?
by ap3604 on May 7, 2010 10:07 PM EDT reply actions
It was reported that Lebron was first on the Parquet floor around 3 hrs prior to shootaround
him and Parker were practicing Shots, long range bombs and it worked out well for the king…
maybe PP should do that as well coz the way Paul bricked his jumpers, you’d think he was Rondo jumpshooting out there.
"No I’m not KG. Not at all, but I’m Big Baby Glen Davis from LSU, Baton Rouge, Louisiana. I’m not the Big Ticket. I’m the Ticket Stub. Don’t count the Ticket Stub out. You might need the ticket to get in the game, but you leave with the ticket stub, because you’ll never forget this game."
Ladies and Gentlemen
I give you————your 2009-2010 Boston Celtics!!!
same team we’ve had to watch the entire 2010 part of the season.
first game this series where the officiating wasn’t a major issue (good ol’ Salvatore still found a way to make a BS call with that flagrant on Perk) and the C’s choose to come out completely passive to start the game. just chucking up jumpers that would do Antoine proud. These veteran idiots need to finally grasp the idea that they need to come out driving to the basket, not tossing up jumpers. Not only do they need to drive to the basket but they need to make sure they get obvious contact and stop shying away from contact. need to really push the refs to make calls against CLE.
Only bright spots were Rondo and TA (at least he was aggressive).
pierce looks like he has aged 30 years since the heat series
by celticinorlando on May 7, 2010 10:12 PM EDT reply actions
Seriously, I want PP to retire as a Celtic...
But games like this make you scratch your head if PP even deserve an extension worth more than 6 million per…on a multiyear contract…Urgghhh!!!
"No I’m not KG. Not at all, but I’m Big Baby Glen Davis from LSU, Baton Rouge, Louisiana. I’m not the Big Ticket. I’m the Ticket Stub. Don’t count the Ticket Stub out. You might need the ticket to get in the game, but you leave with the ticket stub, because you’ll never forget this game."
man...why do i get a feeling this is the beginning of the end for the celtics? next season is going to be rough
by celticinorlando on May 7, 2010 10:24 PM EDT reply actions
Yup, this is it.
You dont see many of those ‘its only one game’ posts here do you. I would be shocked if the Celtics won another game. Only a homer would think otherwise.
Nothing to do with being a homer
This team is maddeningly up and down.
It’s as likely they’ll play well Sunday as it was they’d phone it in tonight.
by TheOutletPass on May 7, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
nowhere
Like most of the rest of them.
by TheOutletPass on May 7, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Well defended
1st game this series the cavs played defense
by nba is the worst on May 8, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
C's winning on Sunday is as likely as Atlanta beating Orlando...
aint gonna happen
Refs had nothing at all to do with this
Guys you know I have said its the refs quite a few other games, but not this one. Not by a longshot. This loss is totally on our starting 5. Including Rondo.
This team has been depending on Rondo far too much to create all plays.
I want to see them let Paul bring the ball upcourt
something has to change or they are going down again Sunday then it’s over.
The last thing we want is Paul handling the ball
Or haven’t you been watching this whole season?
by TheOutletPass on May 7, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
You beat me to it, Sir.
This team has been depending on Rondo far too much to create all plays
Um, he’s the point guard. That’s what he does.
When Paul start handling the ball, the offense becomes stagnant while he goes one on five. It hasn’t worked ALL SEASON, it won’t work now in the playoffs.
Rondooooooo
exactly
and with the way PP came out chucking up bricks tonight, there’d be even less of a reason to go down that bad path
Celtics lost this game in the 1st quarter
And I thought the refs were pretty one-sided in the first quarter, especially that foul on Perk. But we never showed any fight as the game went on. That was the most disappointing part, it was angering to watch.
since when did the NBA become so soft? perk's foul on james was a hard playoff foul..not a flagrant
by celticinorlando on May 7, 2010 10:31 PM EDT reply actions
Was it in any way different the Varejao’s flagrant on Ray Allen?
It’s common sense – if you don’t even pretend like you are trying to go for the ball (e.g. not even raising your hands for a block and just lowering your shoulder and plowing into someone), the refs will call it a flagrant. This has been the NBA standard for close to 10 years now. Get over it.
I’ll watch it again but I’m pretty sure Perk did make a play on the ball, I think he might have even got his hand on it. Sure it was hard, but I don’t really see how it was unnecessary. In fact it’s basically the same thing Shaq did to Rondo in game 1.
As for Varejao, he was still upset over a previous call and just ran into Ray. Frankly I don’t think it was excessive and at first glance I thought it was a bad call. But if the refs thought it was unnecessary then at least there’s some logic to it.
Sorry - I hope you don't think so after watching it again
by nba is the worst on May 8, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm sure you're real sorry
If that’s a flagrant, that’s fine, but it has nothing to do with Perk going for the ball. (Even if it did he obviously got his hand out there.) The criteria is “unnecessary and/or excessive” contact. I was thinking of Shaq’s foul, at the time, and I still fail to see the difference besides the call made; well except that and maybe one guy got hit in a more vulnerable position.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuZBgeJVQHw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj0Qz4-vtlw
I guess I made the mistake of thinking they’d make a call consistently.
have to switch it around or else
if it was so bad letting Paul bring up the ball then why did they do it before ? Rondo’s routine is covered by the Cavs now. something has to change on offense or its over.
Tonight was absolutely pitiful on offense. a total clusterfck.
Have you watched any games this season?
No disrespect, but our offense comes to a standstill when Paul brings the ball up. Not to mention he’s shooting 13 for 42 in this series. Going to Paul right now is not the answer, I think it’ll make things worse.
Offensively, Rondo shredded the Cavs in the first 2 games so I’m not in a rush to deviate. If anything, he needed to be MORE aggressive tonight. And it would’ve been helpful if Ray and Paul could, ya know, HIT SOME SHOTS.
Rondooooooo
RJ, it didn't work tonight. badly.
Cavs figured out how to shut Rondo down.
If they don’t change Sunday’s approach, they are toast.
I’m not say every drive, but some of them to throw the Cavs off at least.
Shut him down? He still had 18pts, 8 assists, and 5 rebounds tonight
But he’s just 1 player on a team… Ray and Paul were NO SHOWS tonight, that was the difference. Paul got his looks, he bricked them. Can’t fault Rondo for getting Paul his shot.
Rondooooooo
Sorry, I just don't want to see Paul initiating the offense.
It sends a cold shiver down my spine, like Michael Myers is standing behind me.
Rondooooooo
think about Rondo getting open
Rondo can get open easily.. they would have difficulty covering him and that would open up shots across the board. Right now if nothing changes you’re looking at a repeat of tonight cuz the Cavs are just gonna fill the gaps again. Look at how much time was blown tonight. Celtic possessions were long and pointless. House of Pain.
Like I said, the difference tonight wasn't Rondo handling the ball. He's the PG, he should handle the ball and set up plays.
The difference is Ray going 2 for 9, and Paul going 4 for 15 (13 for 42 on the series, btw). For us to win, those guys have to hit a decent clip.
Add to that no bench production (looks like game 2 Sheed was a mirage) and and early foul issues, no defensive energy, and the result is a blowout. Paul initiating the offense (shudder) is not the answer to those issues.
Rondooooooo
might i add that was a flagrant foul in todays league
and Perk knew it but did it anyway.
that was a darn hockey check ! this isn’t hockey. come on.
this was predictable
we beat them bad in cleveland and they’ve been stewing since tuesday. we on the ofther hand have not been practicing and have been sitting around listening to everyone tell us how great we are. for whatever reason we always come out soft at home. I knew we were in trouble 2 minutes into the game because I’ve seen this routine a;; year. I think we will bounce back in game 4 but pierce had to play better.
good point Red
in total agreement. This next game really is Paul’s and he has to get more involved in the plays or we start talking about next year.
Mailed it in
The Celtics played like they were expecting a big spanking from the Cavs. Insteading of fighting back, they just bend over with their pants down. Man!
What would you do
if you came out and saw Bennett Salvatore out there? Game was over before it started.
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