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BostonHerald.com -  Celts not looking to move up; Perk may have surgery Fri.

“We’re not trying to move up,” said the Celtics president of basketball operations, seemingly putting to rest a prevalent rumor that the team was attempting to package the 19th pick and Kendrick Perkins in an attempt to move into lottery range.

Danny Ainge hopes to bring Allen back - ESPN

Boston Celtics president of basketball operations Danny Ainge said Wednesday that bringing back free agent guard Ray Allen and keeping the nucleus of the Celtics together would be his preference, particularly after coming up just short of a world title this past season.

"I think that is the most likely scenario," Ainge said on Boston sports radio WEEI (850 AM) when asked about re-signing the soon-to-be 35-year-old Allen. "We love Ray. We know Ray has basketball left in him. We have to make wise financial decisions knowing that Ray is going to have other options, but also knowing that Ray has basketball left in him. He's a difference maker in us winning or losing."

 

Source: Boston Offering Perkins and Pick in Draft Talks -- NBA FanHouse

A league front-office source told FanHouse that the Celtics have been dangling center Kendrick Perkins and their No. 19 pick to teams with high lottery picks in attempt to add a dynamic young talent to their aging core.

TrueHoop Blog - ESPN

Boston is considering two offers for its No. 19 pick, one from Memphis and one from New Jersey, a source with knowledge of the selection told ESPN.com Wednesday night. The Celtics are mulling over an offer from Memphis for the Grizzlies No. 25 and 28 picks while the Nets are looking at shipping the No. 27 pick in the first round and No. 31 in the second round to the Celtics for No. 19. A source close to the Celtics said earlier Wednesday that general manager Danny Ainge was looking to move No. 19 because he wasn’t enamored with the possible selections at that position. 

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Draft Workout List | NBADraft.net - Celtics  [players the Celtics have brought in for workouts]

Marqus Blakely, Avery Bradley, Keith Cothran, Jordan Crawford, Jordan Eglseder, Paul George, Anthony Gurley, Lazar Hayward, Xavier Henry, Damion James, Anthony Johnson, Dominique Jones, Tim Ohlbrecht, Omar Samhan, AJ Slaughter, Tyler Smith, Ryan Thompson

Stay tuned for more throughout the day.

The Hoops Market: Semih Erden could have reached to an agreement with the Boston Celtics

Semih Erden is closer to land in the Boston Celtics next season. The 23-year-old Turkish center could have already reached to an agreement with the NBA franchise, and the deal could be signed in the next days.

Chad Ford's latest Mock (7.0)

Danny Ainge has been shopping this pick, but if he stays here, Damion James, Eric Bledsoe, Solomon Alabi and Avery Bradley appear to be the front-runners. James, Bledsoe and Alabi are all off the board, leaving Bradley. The super-quick combo guard could spell Rajon Rondo at times, and would give them another dynamic scoring option in the backcourt. More importantly to Ainge, he's the best talent left on the board.

Chad Ford chat:

Danny is always aggressive and I think he knows he needs to either supplement his team or tear it down. If someone will take Perkins and his knee problems, he'd do it. I think Danny would trade anyone on their roster, including KG or Rondo, for the right deal. And with Paul Pierce contemplating opting out of his deal and Sheed on the verge or retirement, there are scenarios where Boston is sitting at 20 million in cap room this summer.

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also, i'm not for either

I’d be okay with the memphis deal. But not the new jersey one, i don’t care if we’re saving a few bucks with it being a secound round pick.

We need to trade up, not down.

by beantownboy171 on Jun 23, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

disagree

I think both deals are great. I like the NJ one better because 2nd rounders have the flexibility to get different types of contracts. It would be nice to trade up but realistically we have nothing to trade.

Getting 2 lottery tickets is better than 1, imo

by SeanR on Jun 23, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

If i had to choose one

I would pick the memphis deal over the NJ one. But I don’t want to see Perk go.

by Doublespy on Jun 24, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

As much as I love Perk

I wouldn’t mind a trade involving him if it meant getting a longer more athletic center who can score and rebound. It’s frustrating watching him get a pass in the post and putting the ball on the floor instead of into the basket.

by PaFish on Jun 24, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

not really sometimes

you can get almost same talents at #31 as at #27/28 but dont have to offer a guaranteed contract

but i do think all are garbage picks… it takes jackpot kind of luck to get a solid player for this celtics team

by friedgreentomatoes on Jun 24, 2010 5:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Makes Sense

If the quality between 19 and 31 isn’t significantly different, then why not get two for the price of one?

It’s common in football, so if the quality is the same, you might as well trade for more picks. We certainly need some players.

by amenhotep04 on Jun 23, 2010 11:18 PM EDT reply actions  

ditto

You’re never sure what you’re going to get. So if you’re not at the top of the draft, then there’s something to be said for improving your chances by multiplying them.

by no kidding on Jun 24, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

"The idea is not to block every shot. The idea is to make your opponent believe that you might block every shot." - Bill Russell

by Marjun Raposon on Jun 24, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why doesn't Danny

Trade the #19 pick, Sheldon and a half eaten bag of Skittles to Memphis for Gasol (the non soft one). Memphis like getting screwed.

by Scal4theallstargame on Jun 23, 2010 11:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Then when we play the Lakers in the Finals in 2011, Mark Gasol and Pau Gasol can spend the whole series rubbing up against each other and smelling each others desire

by dooyork on Jun 23, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why not?

Marc Gasol has only one year left in his contract with Memphis and he will likely not stay there. A trade for him now does not seem so unreal to me.

by Galiza Ceive on Jun 24, 2010 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dont think Wallace is dumb enough to do it. Cud he?

by Papatrichs on Jun 24, 2010 4:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Be nice to wait until the last minute...

…and see if a player we like drops to 19. If not, I like the NJ deal. The lower money and guarantees might translate into room for a better free agent signee.

by mattyweb on Jun 23, 2010 11:27 PM EDT reply actions  

I like This Move

I think this draft is deep. We need to fill out as many roster spots as possible. The Memphis deal is much better

by Evantime34 on Jun 23, 2010 11:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't get it

I understand what Miami did by getting out of Round 1 altogether, because first-rounders get guaranteed deals; but, if you’re not trying to free up cap space by avoiding guaranteed deals, and you don’t like what’s available at 19, how are picks 25, 27, or 28 any better?

by dooyork on Jun 23, 2010 11:44 PM EDT reply actions  

True, if Danny has 2 guys he likes and doesn’t mind giving guaranteed deals to, I’ll trust him. My feeling is that when you’re talking about low first-rounders it’s sort of a gamble and half the time you end up with a guy who rides the pine, so for a contender it’s better to have one pick and get as sure of a thing as possible. I’ll trust Danny though, can’t wait to see how things shake out.

by dooyork on Jun 23, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trust Danny

I like the idea. There’s not much difference between 19 and 25/27/28 or even early 2nd rd, you are getting players that are considered fringe starters, role players or projects. Why not get 2 rather than 1!!! I like the Memphis deal (2 1st Rd picks) better because there are team with 2nd rd picks looking to get into the 1st rd. Maybe use the 25 pick from Memphis and trade the other pick for 2 or 3 2nd rd picks. Kind of Volume shoping – with that they could stash a guy or 2 over seas for a year or two to develop and not count against our cap and not take up a roster space.

Danny has done good with late 1st rd and 2nd rd picks and although this draft is short on stars, some of these late picks will turn out to be good players. I really think this is Danny trying to acquire pieces again like he did before he sprung the Allen and KG trades. That seems to be our best avenue to acquire star type talent. Maybe getting lucky with a guy (like Big Al) who is coveted by other teams and then getting someone to give you a star that wants out. The other choices are to really get lucky drafting 19 or where ever you land and get a Super Star; or blow everything up, let PP, KG and Ray go, have 2 or 3 bad years get some lottery picks and get lucky to find a real star (based on ping pong balls) but that has been a disaster for us – think Tim Duncan or Oden/Durrant.

by badax33 on Jun 24, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love either move, but prefer 25 and 28. We can get two pieces

We can draft a big, like Whiteside, Alabi or Orton and a wing scorer like Jordan Crawford or Dominique Jones. Damion James could still be available at 25 as well.

If the guy DA really likes, maybe a Patrick Patterson slides, then keep the pick, otherwise, trade out and get two chips, two young pieces to go with Rondo.

by SCBirdman33 on Jun 23, 2010 11:46 PM EDT reply actions  

True!!

We can get a big any of them. We need one and sf or sg. We need another one, so why not!!!

by celt4ever on Jun 24, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm with Roy Hobbs

There’s a fine line between Delonte West/Tony Allen and Bill Walker/J.R. Giddens.

by Big_Easy on Jun 23, 2010 11:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Why Complain?

If my memory serves me correct we have all of like 6 players under contract. Most people were saying they wanted to get younger and more athletic. So why complain about adding 2 young and athletic players as opposed to one? DA all but said the arent going to be picking up a project big man…with that being said I feel they are looking at the combo and swing positions. I mean honestly is there that much of a diff between the likes of d.jone, j.crawford, w. warren, q.pondexter, d.james etc? Point being sure we may not be able to get a slider at #19 (though i would assume ainge would not make the trade until they are one the clock) So we miss out on a gamble like Bledsoe, Bradley etc but we get 2 for one and who’s to say one of those two (Bledsoe/Bradley) would be better then either of the other 2 we would pick.

by Celtics55555 on Jun 24, 2010 12:06 AM EDT reply actions  

this is just a financial decision, not basketball-wise

im beginning to worry that the ownership is more realistic than we fans are. they need to fill in the roster while paying less luxury tax if there is not.

come on, picks at end of R1 could be up for purchase with just cash…

by friedgreentomatoes on Jun 24, 2010 12:17 AM EDT reply actions  

trade idea

Lets say Danny pulls the #19 for the 2 Memphis picks, i wouldn’t be oppose to him then trading those 2 picks to teams with no 1st round pick for maybe a player they want to come off the books that we could use? Dallas, Orlando, and Knicks all have that in common.

But if Danny makes the trade, I also wouldn’t mind if they are there a big man like that kid Hassan Whiteside or Alabi from Florida State.

by njceltsfan138 on Jun 24, 2010 12:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Terrico White, Lance Stephenson, Jordan Crfawford

Any of those guys would make me happy. I like James Anderson if hes around at 19. If we get two! Even happier. But with two picks we could get one of these fellas and also take a risk on a big man.LIke Gani Lawal, Whiteside, or Alabai

My personal favorite tho..http://www.nbadraft.net/players/terrico-white

by idunnoyo on Jun 24, 2010 1:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Terrico White

i agree with idunnoyo, i think terrico white has a lot of potential, and is very athletic, someone who can run with Rondo

by andrewherez2597 on Jun 24, 2010 1:38 AM EDT reply actions  

25 and 28???

Dominique Jones or Mikhail Torrance

and Gani Lawal, Quency Pondexter, even Salomon Alabi and Damion James…

I like this move…

by Rogerio on Jun 24, 2010 1:51 AM EDT reply actions  

at this point i’d do both the trades. the difference between 12-25 is small so there isnt that much reason to stay. if you can move down and get 2 players for 1 i’d jump at it.. the memphis trade to me seems to be good. cause then they can trade 1 of those picks again either for a pick next year or a package deal for a player and 2nd round pick.

by jdunn123 on Jun 24, 2010 2:24 AM EDT reply actions  

maybe minnesota is willing to draft monroe or cousins and trade big al back to boston for one of those picks and sheeds retiring contract.. al, kg, davis, perk would be a great start. then trade the other pick for a SG. plus have 2nd round picks to fill out the roster

by jdunn123 on Jun 24, 2010 2:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

why am i replying to myself… damn it!!

by jdunn123 on Jun 24, 2010 2:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Any rumors on Ray?

Time seems to move so slowly these days. it is only a week since that heartbreaking loss. There seems not much news on Ray and who we will pick up. Can’t wait for the season to start and the playoffs.

by getthat18now on Jun 24, 2010 3:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Perkins on the block?

According RealGM

The Celtics are shopping Kendrick Perkins and the 19th overall pick to teams high in the lottery, according to a source.
Perkins was injured in Game 6 of the NBA Finals.

I’d like only if we can get Cousins, but it’s very unlikeley

by Jack_Frost on Jun 24, 2010 4:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Does not make sense.

What possible value are we going to get out of Perkins while he is injured?

I don’t believe this ‘rumor’ is anything but made up space filler.

by mmmmm on Jun 24, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

poor perk...

he get’s hurt and he’s still being shopped!!!!

by celty86 on Jun 24, 2010 5:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Well at least Danny agrees with me

  In this mornings Boston’s papers, Danny is quoted ‘center is our biggest need’. I’ve been saying that here for a week now…while everyone else talks about SG’s (Bah, a dime a dozen, most common available peeps) and SF (15 cents a dozen, the second most common available peeps). We can pick up a backup PG easily and cheaply (third most common thing) but getting a decent PF is tuff and a real Center, young, athletic and BIG is VERY difficult.

   I’d also like to see Reddick picked up as a free agent. He was the best shooter I saw in the playoffs and should be affordable. So pick a Center with the 19 and and a PF with second rounder.

by Dipper on Jun 24, 2010 5:56 AM EDT reply actions  

agree too

Especially considering how well Nate Robinson and Tony Allen have played recently. Both backup guard spots are locked up in my mind.

Center is a massive whole.
We’ve got major problems there: Sheed will be out, Perk likely more suited for a backup role after recovering from a blown knee, and we just got out-rebounded out of the Finals. We need to add 2 more rotation 7’-ers to remain in the top half of the East.

by D Dub on Jun 24, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. Center is the biggest need.

DA will re-sign Ray and PP will opt in and those are our 2-3 starters for one more year. Find a way to get a young C or C/PF hybrid this year. Worry about finding a young wing next year.

by mmmmm on Jun 24, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Celtics workout list

Not sure is this is 100% accurate but NBA Draft.net just put out a list of teams and their workout list.

Celts worked out:
Marqus Blakely, Avery Bradley, Keith Cothran, Jordan Crawford, Jordan Eglseder, Paul George, Anthony Gurley, Lazar Hayward, Xavier Henry, Damion James, Anthony Johnson, Dominique Jones, Tim Ohlbrecht, Omar Samhan, AJ Slaughter, Tyler Smith, Ryan Thompson

In total, 17 players mostly SGs and SFs, not a lot of bigs. This could give some insights on what the Celts and Danny want. Wouldn’t mind if we could get two of those guys with lower picks.
But anything could happen on draft night, it’s all speculation till then.

by Banner 18 on Jun 24, 2010 6:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Alabai

Danny tried to get him for a workout but could not do to scheduling conflicts

by jpd985 on Jun 24, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Any scouting report on this Turkish center Semih Erden

Is he just one of those typical European centers who like to shoot 3s?

by getthat18now on Jun 24, 2010 7:44 AM EDT reply actions  

I saw him on TV twice

He has an NBA body, with superior lower-body strength, so he should be able to contest post position defensively, a la Greg Kite. Otherwise, he was invisible in the games I saw.

"People don't understand, if you can't live the rest of your life off one year in the NBA, you can't live off 21." -- Keon Clark

by Eeyore III on Jun 24, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Against trading Perk

under any circumstances I can think of. He’s not just a good defensive center, he’s also the embodiment of the team’s defensive swagger.

And hopefully a championship series at the technicals limit will have done him some good in the barking at the refs department.

by Thruthelookingglass on Jun 24, 2010 8:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Sounds like Erden may be coming

     I haven’t seen a scouting report on him in some time, but the last I saw indicated he was more of a banger then a perimeter type guy. He did go head to head in an exhibition with (I think) Greg Odom and held his own. He also spent some time with C’s summer stuff two years ago. Not on the summer team, just working out. So Danny picked him and stashed him, now we may see if he’s any good.

by Dipper on Jun 24, 2010 8:41 AM EDT reply actions  

erden

if we’re relying on Erden to fill in for Perk until he gets back or to take Sheed’s place, we’re not going far next year.

by slamtheking on Jun 24, 2010 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Erden follow-up

1. He is definitely not a 3 point shooter. Did not attempt ONE this past season.

2. Not much of a scorer and a lousy free throw shooter (58ish percent).

3. So so rebounder.

All that sounds bad but his teams always seem to do very well. Turkish league champs again this year. He was on the Turkish National Team in Olympics and the Turks got a silver medal. He has his best stats agains the best (I think) of the Russian teams (CSVA or something like that).

I don’t know enough about the Euro/Turkish games to evaluate the stats, so pehaps he is a much better player then his stats are.

by Dipper on Jun 24, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Like with Perk

the devil is in the details and not always in the box scores.

Given that the ‘goto’ order for this team is always going to be Pierce→KG→Rondo→Ray→Center, the offensive contributions that would be expected out of our center are going to be the ability to set screens and pass out on rebounds. Neither of which show up in the box score. Any scoring is basically gravy.

by mmmmm on Jun 24, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the reports I’ve read on him shows he’s not a your typical Euroleague three point shooter. He played for North Carolina and had a .453 field goal percentage. Also made 146 out of 176 free throw attempts.

If Erden is a vast improvement over Sheldon Williams, I say bring him on board.

by Banner 18 on Jun 24, 2010 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh my Lord. You compare him with Sheldon !!??

If he can rebound and shoot free throws, then give him a chance here.

by getthat18now on Jun 24, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm torn on this

I can understand Danny thinking of getting a 2-for-1 in the first round if he thinks he can get 2 players he likes. We definitely need to get younger and fill the bench but will those 2 players be able to contribute on some level as opposed to someone that might fall to 19?

I’m sure Danny won’t commit to one of these trades until he’s on the clock to make sure someone doesn’t slide unexpectedly (hopefully not another fool’s gold situation like Gerald Green) but I’m concerned there’s no rumors of a move up in the draft or him getting the rights to a higher pick in exchange for a S&T with one of our FA’s like TA, Nate or even Ray.

Can’t believe he couldn’t get that Miami pick that they just basically gave away.

by slamtheking on Jun 24, 2010 9:05 AM EDT reply actions  

The 2010 Draft is a unique situation. Because of the fear of a looming NBA lockout in 2011 and a diminished rookie salary base, a large number of underclassmen declared for the draft. Those underclassmen might be future lottery picks in later drafts but they’re available now.

Danny is probably thinking that trading 19 for two picks in the mid to late 20s would land you two players that would have been potential lottery picks (maybe around the 14th and 18th range) in future drafts. That’s a huge haul if he picks the right guys.

by Banner 18 on Jun 24, 2010 9:35 AM EDT reply actions  

It would be a big mistake to trade Perk. You have one of the top defensive centers in the league… Perk’s the reason we got past Orlando. … you don’t give that up. Good centers are rare and Perk’s a good center. Don’t do it Danny!!!

Perk is a BEAST!!

by FLCeltsFan on Jun 24, 2010 9:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Just another Rumor

Why or why do people take every rumor so darn seriously!!!! Has Danny discussed Perk, probably. But he’s probably talked about Rondo, and KG and BBD and everybody else on the roster. It’s his job to talk and see what’s out there. How do you think the Laker got Gasol!!! What if a trade like that was out there and we had to include Perk. I think it’s a no brainer. But I don’t see Danny trading Perk just to move up or to clear Cap space. So don’t get your panties in a wad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by badax33 on Jun 24, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

The dropoff is going to be big next year

Am I the only one who thinks we are settling into a 3-5 year period of non-contender status unless we replace our aging (not so) elite talent with younger elite talent? I just don’t see it happening and I would feel the same way even if we had won the championship.

We need to get younger and better and that won’t happen in the draft.

I think Doc is leaving at the right time. The C’s will be a 45-50 win team next year, IMO, if they bring back essentially the same group. Too old, too inconsistent on offense, Rondo isn’t a true scorer, suspect rebounding….. savvy team and good defense, still a playoff team, but not a real contender.

The whole logic of the successive expiring contracts (Allen, Pierce, Garnett) was to use the money in each year to add an impact player to replace the expiring contract. Now Ray’s up and not only are we talking about taking him back, but we aren’t poised to add anything other than the #19 pick in a weak draft year.

by Causeway on Jun 24, 2010 9:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Causeway, Causeway, Causeway ...

Do you really think Danny isn’t trying to find a way to improve. However, being young doesn’t necessarily qualify. How many rookies or 2nd year players made significant contributions to their team in the Championship series or Conference Finals. NONE. So being young isn’t all that important. The Celts are looking for guys that can play. I believe we will get more solid contributionsusing the Vet min and the MLE. We still have to shake out whether Doc is coming back, Rasheed is retiring, resinging Ray, and whether PP will opt out or not and if so will he resign. I think these are the more important questions.

Now as for getting younger, I would like to see us get a couple of young guys in the draft. I think that’s why Danny is talking about trading 19 for 2 lower picks. But unless he gets awful lucky, I see this as Danny amassing chip/assets for future deals.

As for logic of successive expiring contract and using them to obtain talent, I don’t know where that came from. Unless you’re talking about trading them during the last year of the contract, which I believe Danny explored. However, he didn’t enough value and we were 1 quarter from another banner by keeping Ray. In looking at our cap, if Wallace does retire and his contract is removed and PP opts out and both he and Ray are renounced we’d have about 15M this year. But who would want to come here then? All these FA want is money and the opportunity to win a Championship. I don’t see us have Cap space until 2012/13 season and the rules will probably be drastically different from this year with the new CBA.

by badax33 on Jun 24, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

This.

Is pretty much spot on.

by mmmmm on Jun 24, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not surprised that Perk is on the block

I was expecting they would attempt to move him and support the move wholeheartedly. Of course, the pressure is now on to find another big guy who can hold his own on defense and who hopefully can give them a little more on offense. Won’t be easy. I honestly do not buy that Perk is one of the top defensive centers in the league. Yes, he is probably the best against 3-4 centers — Dwight Howard especially, but against quicker, more mobile guys that are found on most teams, he is average at best.

by vinnie on Jun 24, 2010 9:56 AM EDT reply actions  

I don’t know anyone out there that you could trade Perk for that could give you more on offense and hold his own on defense as you mentioned. If a team had that kind of player, why give him up for Perk and a pick? Also there’s a big question mark with Perk’s injury. How well will he recover and how long will it take to get back to his best level? It’s tough to move a guy with a big injury. I think he stays and hopefully we’ll see him back on the floor by Nov. or Dec.

by Banner 18 on Jun 24, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not saying they would trade Perk for that person

However, saying Danny needs to find that player. I have never been a big Perk fan and have always thought he was overrated.

by vinnie on Jun 24, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agree wholehearthedly

I have never felt Perk was starter material…just happen to be on a team good enough to carry his faults.

by house_call on Jun 24, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Danny has a history of moving partially damaged goods – Powe is the latest example. Danny is ruthless. I wonder if he is putting his mother on the block.

OR, he is planning on a bait and switch.

Would you trade Perk for Big Al? I would. Jefferson needs a change of scenery, and some good coaching

by johnnymost on Jun 24, 2010 10:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Crap, I was posting mine at the same time...

I 100% would do this!

Sorry for the second post saying the same thing under yours

by D-Funnk on Jun 24, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Danny didn't 'move' Powe.

He just was reluctant to sign him while injured and Cleveland opted to take that chance.

Powe was a free agent.

Perk would be very hard to move for anything of value until he comes back from his injury. It’s not like every GM isn’t completely aware that he has a 2-ligament tear.

by mmmmm on Jun 24, 2010 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

How about?

Perk for Big Al?? Al can score the ball a lot better than Perk and is a good rebounder. He isn’t as much as a shot blocker, or defensive presence, but Perk’s stupid technicals and fouls have cost us in many games, and Al’s scoring would offset the defense

by D-Funnk on Jun 24, 2010 10:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Make the trade with memphis danny and draft bradley or lance then a big like patterson or brackins

by ChristianW15 on Jun 24, 2010 11:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Omar Samhan

I wonder if we will bring Omar Samhan in for summer league games. I think that he can be our project big man this year. Besides, he and Big Baby will make post game interviews more interesting.

by orb on Jun 24, 2010 11:44 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

NO big at #19, or after is going to give us the help we need right away

The thing is with the Celtics being down probably two bigs if Sheed retires,and Perkins wont play most of the regular season we need someone who can come in right away and help out.If you think about it if your going to give away the #19 you will lose some quality when it comes to the bigs in the draft.Alabi, and Whiteside will be gone no doubt.Plus none of the guys left even if we stay with #19 are going to be NBA ready as far as bigs go.Better to get a big out of the free ageny like Brad Miller who we could bring in at mid-level.We need a big that is ready, when was the last time a big came out of the draft and made an impact for a team that is a contender right away?

by CoachBullins on Jun 24, 2010 12:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Brad Miller ? for the MLE?

Hmm. …. he made over $12M this last year.

He’s not young, so maybe he’ll take that big of a pay cut?

Not as good a defender as he used to be, but still effective.

by mmmmm on Jun 24, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

terico white and orton?

orton may well slip out of hte first round. I guarantee that at least one of the bigs will slip to the end of the first round and there will probably be a shooter like white who you can grtab there as well. we’re going to need players so getting 2 picks is ok with me

by Red2 on Jun 24, 2010 12:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Would rather see Perk traded for a known.

My favorite player in this draft is Jordan Crawford.
We know that Luke Babbit is eyed by the C’s but I’m not sold on him.
I am for trading Perkins but not for anyone in this class.
Perk has serious flaws, but also serious strengths.
He should only be part of a package to land a major star, not these draft kids.

by Snowball on Jun 24, 2010 12:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I can't seem to find any good articles, so I thought I would ask you guys.

Just how badly is Perk injured anyways? We could use him (god knows we could use anyone above 7 ft), but my feeling from the Celtics trying to trade him is that his knee’s a lot worse than most people think it is, which is obviously a major red flag.

Minnesotan Rockets fan

by Barragan on Jun 24, 2010 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes Chad Ford

and it’s going ’ might ’ literally rain cats and dogs and ’ might ’ win the lottery and…

"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said

by Birdbrain on Jun 24, 2010 1:57 PM EDT reply actions  

We want to be back in the finals next season?

Getting a big out of the draft to play a big role next season wont work,I dont think that even Cousins is NBA ready.We need guys who can be put in the first game of the season,give iur vets a rest, and not make huge mistakes someone who can hold on to the ball.None of these kids that the we could get in the draft are ready to help.We need to prepare for 2012 with draft picks and prepare for next season by getting quality not a star from the free agency.Ray isnt going anywhere Ainge has already said he wants him back,and Ray wants to stay with us.Both Allen,and Pierce will sign on till 2012 when Garnett will go on the market.Ray has Bird Rights which helps the cap space anyone who says he is gone isnt thinking business.

by CoachBullins on Jun 24, 2010 2:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Celts looking at Cousins

ESPN Radio just reported Ainge has been on the phone all day working a deal and that they are interested in Cousins.

by ardvark on Jun 24, 2010 2:19 PM EDT reply actions  

good to know

well that wouldn’t suck. probably would need to involve Perk to get it done.

by slamtheking on Jun 24, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'd be very happy with that

I really like cousins, and if he can learn from kg the kid will be a stud.

Fingers crossed

by beantownboy171 on Jun 24, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crawford

Crawford touted as the top mid round pick, that could be similar to Rondo.

by ardvark on Jun 24, 2010 2:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Carmelo

Nuggets have offered Anthony a 3 year contract extension worth 65 million

by ardvark on Jun 24, 2010 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Anybody know what Ford is referring to?

Chad says:

And with Paul Pierce contemplating opting out of his deal and Sheed on the verge or retirement, there are scenarios where Boston is sitting at 20 million in cap room this summer.

Am I right to assume these “scenarios” include renouncing Pierce if he opts out?

by Berkcelt on Jun 24, 2010 2:53 PM EDT reply actions  

or him signing somewhere

say he opts out and then LAC swoops in with a Godfather offer

by Brendan on Jun 24, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

please tell me

paul pierce will retire as a celtic and danny is trying to make us better rather than make us worse and i will be okay

I want pierce to stay and i trust that danny will do whats right for this team for next season

by celticcrazy on Jun 24, 2010 2:54 PM EDT reply actions  

hey i don’t think you can ever fault danny’s effort. sometimes his results are mixed but he seems to work at it. i think everyone in the front office would like pierce to retire in green, but i’m sure danny isn’t ruling anything out either..

by Berkcelt on Jun 24, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's is posible?

That PP opt out to clear all that money and resign with the Celtics again for the MLE or Minimum?

by celt4ever on Jun 24, 2010 2:56 PM EDT reply actions  

i just read this on the subject

http://celticshub.com/2010/06/22/possibility-vs-probability-of-a-celtics-max-contract/

he didn’t mention if there would be a cap hold for a first round pick, but either way we’d still have a big chunk of change to spend apparently if sheed hangs ‘em up and PP opts out. i’m not sure if you can use the MLE if you’re under the cap to begin the offseason. doesn’t stand to reason. As for the odds of PP taking the minimum, technically possible, but no not happening ever, nor should it really.

by Berkcelt on Jun 24, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

It could be intriguing. But if we lose Paul AND Ray, I don’t know, I feel like that diminishes our situation a lot. Seems like to sign a max player or close to max player we would lose both those guys.

by Berkcelt on Jun 24, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hope he does

For all the games he lost for the celtics

by juanpan on Jun 25, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wao. It's possible but PP taking the Min on the stand point on his business is stupid.

But what if he make a deal. A back stage deal w Ra and Kg. Let’s say’s Ra can sign with anyone for 8-10 mill let’s says he sign for 3 years and 6 mill, Kg has 2 more years and the third for the Min. So PP after sign a one year deal for the Min then he resing another3 more year getting more money and when Kg is in his Min year the Celt can give a PP more money for the favor he’s done to the Celtics.

by celt4ever on Jun 24, 2010 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Herald schmerald.....

who knows what Ainge is doing. He probably has no qualms in telling a bald face lie to the media so he can disguise his real intentions.

by celty86 on Jun 24, 2010 4:03 PM EDT reply actions  

If Boston plans on trading Perkins, they better get something great in return.

This guy’s defense is what the Celtics are all about.

Chris Andersen could be in a porno with his 'stache. Too bad he still wouldn't know how to box out.

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by Mini Hulk on Jun 24, 2010 5:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Genius?

Sorry, can someone explain Ainge’s genius? It seems like his genius put the Celtics in the cellar for a decade. What about developing rookies? I thought these elite college guys could play basketball? The Emperor is naked.

by The Mysterian on Jun 24, 2010 5:57 PM EDT reply actions  

He DID acquire & develop several young players.

And then wisely, cashed some of them in via trades to bring KG & Ray over.

He also kept some (Rondo, Perk, Tony, BBD).

The result were three playoff runs in the last 3 years, 2 finals appearances and one banner.

by mmmmm on Jun 24, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHAT

more like 1 title in 21 years

by juanpan on Jun 25, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

if we are offloading our pick

is it being done so we can save cap space for a run at a big time free agent?

as for Pierce taking a sweet heart deal to play for the celts – i don’t know. We all know that he has aspirations to be a GM some day. Maybe, he gets the first offer ever as a asst. GM /player. Where he takes some of his money as asst. gm and some as a player. Wonder if this can be done?

by ForexPirate on Jun 24, 2010 6:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Hope Danny

trades down with Memphis or some other team and ends up with a 2011 1st round pick and still get 1 or 2 role players out of tonight’s draft.

by broncorob on Jun 24, 2010 7:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Draft

Perkins well not br ready. who well play center with Wallace gone. Dum draft …..

by juanpan on Jun 25, 2010 5:17 PM EDT reply actions  

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