Get Battier? (A. Sherrod Blakely Idea)
by Jeff Clark on Jul 21, 2010 6:23 PM EDT
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PrintI've heard this idea kicked around a few times and always dismissed it as unrealistic. But Blakely breaks down a reason or two why the Rockets might just consider it.
Why this works for Houston: With the Rockets inching close to the luxury tax threshold following a brisk offseason, trading Battier for Wallace would save them at least $1 million in salary; Houston has Kevin Martin, Trevor Ariza and Chase Budinger in the fold, creating what appears to be a logjam of sorts at the small forward position when you throw Battier in the mix.
If we can get old pal Daryl Morey to sign on, then sign me up.
Blakely also proposes two other deals (James Posey and Nazr Mohammed) that make some sense as well.
So hypothetically, if Houston asked us to throw in a 1st rounder, would you do it? If the Hornets offered to toss in a 1st rounder, would you do the deal for Posey?
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i'd do it
then we can get a shooter like house for the vet min & re sign quisy
Battier maybe
Posey is definitely a NO! He has lost too many steps, and didn’t have a lot to begin with.
Wouldn’t the Rockets save more if Sheed retires? They wouldn’t owe him anything, right? I might be confused on that…
IF New Orleans tossed in an unprotected first rounder...
You’d have to think about it. New Orleans was a .450 ballclub last year. They should be a little better, if for no reason other than Chris Paul should play the full season. But, they’re anything but a lock for the playoffs, and if they keep trimming back salary here and there could easily be back in the lotto.
Posey’s way overpaid for what he brings, but it’s only another two seasons (maybe only one, if there’s a lockout). Unprotected first rounder would be a real nice piece to have… and given how many expiring contracts WE’ll have in the coming years, could be very useful in making some trades happen.
Forgot to mention...
If Houston wants to give away Battier for ‘Sheed and a 1st… put that trade into the Commissioner’s office before they can change their mind.
yep and yep
I’d take Posey for a first and I’d take Battier with our first. Can’t we do both?
Only possibly.
I would only trade for Battier if I was sure I couldn’t get a quality big man with Wallace’s contract. For instance, if Gortat is available, I’d be all over that.
This is the trade I feel is most likely to happen
It just seems to make more sense than any other idea. Then if we could trade a 2nd rounder for Rudy we’d have a really solid bench. But we still need another BIG!
"They don't buy all those banners at Woolworths."
-- Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, on all the championship banners at Boston Garden
by Brett Szabo on Jul 21, 2010 7:04 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Just a 2nd rounder for Rudy?
Dreaming.
by Warrior Spirit on Jul 21, 2010 7:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Gotta start low, I wouldn't want to spend more than need be for Rudy
Plus I think Portland wants to dump him at all costs.
"They don't buy all those banners at Woolworths."
-- Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, on all the championship banners at Boston Garden
by Brett Szabo on Jul 21, 2010 7:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Thought they wanted something quality, they were looking for wilson chandler in return…
by Warrior Spirit on Jul 21, 2010 9:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And NY made it pretty clear that they won’t give him. At least not for Rudy Fernandez. Also according to the rumors Fernandez rather goes back to Spain than to play another season with the Blazers.
Add the 2 together and then you can see that Portland wants the most out of it but time is not working for them. The later they trade Fernandez the less they’ll get for him.
So Ainge just have to wait if he still wants Fernandez.
Hopefully it works like that
Wouldn’t be surprised if other teams willing to give the same or more
by Warrior Spirit on Jul 22, 2010 10:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Shane come back.........Shaaaaaaaane........come back.......
I"ll take Shane. . . . . …
Is it Soup Yet?
Book?
You mean you could get the story without having to hear the super-annoying voice of that whiny little brother in the Disney movie? That would’ve been a major improvement. (Couldn’t stand that little Joey in the Shane movie either,)
Pale Rider
(the Clint Eastwood remake) is much better in that regard – no annoying little whiny kid.
Unfortunately the did keep the scene in, but the teenage girl crying out “PREACHER!!!” is not quite as annoying.
Am I missing somerhing
I do not recall him playing for us, makes sense though we have passed over many of my favorite players in the league
by Warrior Spirit on Jul 21, 2010 8:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That'd be fantastic
But just say no to Nazr Mohammed unless a wing isn’t available.
Think of the playoff roster. We’ll have four players at the 4 and 5, each of them more than credible to take playoff minutes. At the 2 and 3, we have PP and RA, and that’s all. We desperately need depth at the wing.
Would love for this to happen
You get this done then sign Thomas or damp for the min and maybe quisy for cheap too if he gets no better offers or a 1st and 2nd plus layfayette for Rudy and we have the best bench in the league. But I too may be dreamin.
Whatver the move is it will be good, this one would be nice tho
by Warrior Spirit on Jul 21, 2010 7:19 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Awesome
This would be awesome, Battier even thought he is in his 30s, he is a very nice defender and can knock down 3s, he could very much replace Tony Allen’s defense and would he can also contribute on offense on a regular basis which Allen isn’t able to do because he doesn’t really have an offensive game, so I say GET BATTIER DANNY he may be your best option.
by Stanley Acosta Calderón on Jul 21, 2010 7:23 PM EDT reply actions
Wishful thinking
Battier would seem like a very good addition. Not totally convinced that Sheed retires, but assuming he doesn’t change his mind, Battier would be a nice piece.
But I’d characterize the reasoning that he’d be available as wishful thinking.
by SteveZ from Edgemont on Jul 21, 2010 7:25 PM EDT reply actions
I still haven't heard anyone explain why Wallace would retire.
In terms of money, I’ve always figured Wallace to be old school. You don’t leave money on the table.
He *did* popularize the phrase "CTC - Cut The Check!"...
… and it’s not like he would feel any particular loyalty to the Rockets. I’d be shocked if he doesn’t get at least a couple mil in a buyout (which we could effectively pay, up to $3M). Wonder if a deal could be contingent on the Rockets and ’Sheed coming to a buyout agreement within a specified period of time.
CTC indeed.
I just remember reading some article which included a kitchen table discussion he had with his wife. When I read that conversation, I finally felt I had some understanding of him. That guy would’ve griped and complained. But at the end of the summer, he would’ve showed up to get every last dollar he could. (Which I can fully respect.)
just added...
So hypothetically, if Houston asked us to throw in a 1st rounder, would you do it? If the Hornets offered to toss in a 1st rounder, would you do the deal for Posey?
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V
Yes to both
Still prefer battier, protected 1st rounder offered though
by Warrior Spirit on Jul 21, 2010 8:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't like any of them
Battier is declining. Poseys contract is poisonous.
by friedgreentomatoes on Jul 21, 2010 7:37 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
if we traded for Posey
they better be throwing in draft choices or such
Battier=Title
so, yes
Danny, battier=title, are you listening? Thank you, me
I don't like any of them
Battier is not the good defender he was any more and he’s only getting worse and worse. We are offering them with sheeds contract which is a good financial relief and then we need to in a 1st rounder? No way. and Poseys contract is poisonous.
by friedgreentomatoes on Jul 21, 2010 7:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
If/when next year's lockout occurs....
Posey’s deal becomes 1/$6M. Crap, but not poison. He’s obviously not the same player he was when he signed that deal, but is he really a worse option than Ime Udoka or Jarvis Hayes?
We’d have to get something else in return, 1st rounder. But, Posey’s contract isn’t THAT bad anymore, especially given the likelihood of 2011 – 2012 being wiped out anyway.
Budinger would also work for me!
If they need to shed payroll Budinger is not the answer; however perhaps a sign and trade (with additional players thrown in), plus picks could allow them to land Sheeds contract and keep Battier.
All 3 would help
Battier although he’s very overrated can make a wide open 3 and play some nice defense. Little chance he’s available.
Mohammad I consider to be slightly underrated and would be nice 5th big. Seems like most likely addition.
Posey is the least guy I’m interested in and with DA letting him leave once it would surprise me if he brings him back.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
Could have said the same about Antoine...
just sayin’….
I figured that would be brought up. Fair point .
Maybe I put my own bias in that comment. We’ll see.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
Disagree with mohammed
I think we can pick up a decent regular season big man backup for vet min easier than we can get a quality wing with what’s left who can play both ways for vet min I think using sheed’s contract for a wing is the prudent move. Then sign a k. Thomas or battie/dampier/boone etc for vet min, don’t forget we only have to rely on the extra big for half a season, the 1st half mind you
by Warrior Spirit on Jul 21, 2010 9:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
^^^ wtf is that ^^^^
would LOVE battier but i just dont see houston trading him….to me its more likely they move ariza and keep battier around around as they develop budinger….if we could swing a deal for ariza id do that sheeds contract plus the non gauranteed contracts we have cash….and a draft pick……for ariza and a draft pick and or another player ? i really think battier is going to stay in houston hes the most respected veteran player in that locker room and you know morey loves him ….
Battier...This "solid citizen" is declining
2006…FG .488%
2007…FG .446%
2008…FG .428%
2009…FG .410%
2010…FG .398%
Doesn't matter if it's Battier or Posey....
I’ll take either one in a trade since they both believe in defense and that it’s all about the team. These two have been around the block long enough to know that they’re being brought on to a team to support the starters and the stars. If it were up to me though, i’d rather have Battier but getting posey isn’t a bad thing either…
Saw this article pop up on The Dream Shake, thought I would comment
It’s very unlikely the Rockets move Battier to shed salary and try to get under the salary tax line. Rockets owner Les Alexander has already gone “All In” on this season, and is very willing to spend over the luxury tax. The Rockets are currently around $7 million over the luxury tax.
With a glue guy like Battier, the only way I think the Rockets move him is with Jared Jeffries expiring contract (6.5 million), a young player or two (Jordan Hill, Jermaine Taylor), and a couple draft picks(most likely the ones picked up in the McGrady trade), to try and hit a home run around the trade deadline.
The hope is that the team he is traded to will then buyout the remainder of Battier’s contract (also expiring) so he can rejoin the Rockets in time for the playoffs. We have the utmost respect for Battier here and don’t want to see him go.
+1
For loyalty, don’t find that here to often these days
by Warrior Spirit on Jul 22, 2010 11:02 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
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