Celtics Still Looking At Rudy Fernandez
by Jeff Clark on Jul 28, 2010 5:54 AM EDT
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PrintHis name has been out there all summer but it appears that things may be heating up on the Rudy Fernandez front. Part of the holdup has been the turnover in the Portland front office. But new GM Rich Cho started the job "in earnest" on Monday (whatever that means), and it seems like he's willing to talk seriously with teams now.
Trail Blazers looking for a fast trade involving Rudy Fernandez | OregonLive.com
At the urging of Rudy Fernandez and his agent, the Trail Blazers have engaged in accelerated trade discussions to deal the disgruntled, once-popular shooting guard to one of three Eastern Conference teams. Boston, Chicago and New York are all in the running to land the 6-foot-6 Spaniard, who set an NBA rookie record two seasons ago by making 159 three-pointers.
Some of the teams interested in Fernandez have offered a future first round draft pick, while other offers would pair Fernandez with another Blazers player, but agent Andy Miller would not get into specifics.
Bulls in trade talks with Blazers for Fernandez - Chicago Breaking Sports
The Bulls have been offering 2009 first-round pick James Johnson all offseason, although the Trail Blazers have shown little interest in Johnson in the past and other parts would be needed to make those salaries match.
Not sure exactly what package the Celtics are offering but the option of trading Sheed and a future pick for Rudy and other spare parts on Portland's deep roster is intriguing to me. Especially when Ainge admits that we have more than one need left.
Celtics must pick up pieces — for back end of roster - The Boston Globe
"We think Semih is capable of playing backup minutes for us,’’ Ainge said. "We have Jermaine and Glen Davis, but for the long haul of the season I think we’d like to add another big guy and a shooter.’’
I have a feeling something is going to happen in the next couple of weeks. Stay tuned.
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no to delonte
if the Cs want to get somebody from the blazers, then get oden, oft injured? yeah but that goes for marquis and JO. LOL. delonte? not another puny guard who can’t help ray ray and pierce in guarding wade and Lebrash.
And what would be Portlands incentive to trade Oden? Injuries aside he is one of the most promising bigmen in the league, why would they give that up for peanuts?
Yeap they are in the same situation like us.
Przybilla hurt they don’t know how is gonna return, Oden you never know. they need all their big.
I’m dense this morning. For awhile, I couldn’t figure out what this Rudy video had to do with anything.
chants of Rudy
That’s the only correlation I could make.
by 1sport1team on Jul 28, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I am not sure what spare parts there are on the Portland roster. They’re likely looking to pair Fernandez with a contract like Przybilla, who had 2 knee surgeries last season and might as well be done in the NBA. There is no functional big that can be traded with him — unless they have decided to move Oden (who is also injured).
Pryzbilla has an expiring contract that's viewed as something of an asset
Not something the Blazers are trying to get rid of
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Whiny, but he can shoot
Whiny but when he’s on he can shoot the lights out. When he’s off, he’s way off. He wants to be a starter and if he’s not a starter he will whine. Sorry Celtics, you probably won’t get him but if you do, he’ll be whining it up.
Also, he can’t beat anyone off the dribble, can’t play defense, and throws up horrible shots at times. Spot up shooter only.
As far as the trade goes, depends who you guys all want to give up. Blazers love draft picks, but I know I’d like Tony Allen :)
Been a Celtics fan (lived in CT) but now live in Portland and more of a Celtics/Blazers fan.
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See what happens when I move out west? I forgot Tony Allen was a free agent.
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Who can`t shoot the lights out when they are "on"?
Trouble is, he`s seldom “on”.
Fernandez is worthless!
That's pretty inaccurate
He played horrendously during last years playoff, but that was his worst stretch of play. Not a good sign, but he’s on more than he’s off.
Really, though, I don’t think he’s that streaky. He was recently, and that’s probably what most remember. Before the end stretch of last season, he was fairly reliable.
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Maybe I am Nuts
So I read the Rudy Fernandez rumor and it got me thinking. The OregonLive article states that other players could be involved. Julian Benbow spoke with Danny earlier in the day and mentioned that he is still looking for a shooter and a big. The Portland front office has turned over so they really have no ties to Greg Oden. Could we see Danny package Sheed and a 1st rounder to the Blazers for Rudy Fernandez and Greg Oden? Its not ridiculous. We have seen plenty of top picks get moved shorty into their career. A lot of people here are against a Shaq move. Would you be equally opposed to bringing in the fragile Oden? The Blazers have Przybilla coming back from injury and re-upped with Marcus Camby. Let me know your thoughts. Something interesting to ponder during the slow period of the sports year:
Indeed. He is their future; no reason to give up on him just yet.
In any case, I would MUCH rather have Oden than rent-a-Shaq for one season.
All 29 teams would be lining up for Oden!
I do NOT think Danny will allow the Celtics to become Shaq`s latest “sucker” by acquiring him…even though Boston`s big-man situation has already reached the crisis point.
Not sucker...
If we got Shaq for the vet minimum and he agreed to play off the bench, it would be a fine move.
It's not laughable to want him like that, but it's rumored that Oden was the hold up in a deal for Chris Paul
Not sure how Ainge could get the Blazers to part with Oden for a draft pick when they wouldn’t include him a deal for a likely Hall of Famer. Kind of see where your at with that now?
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Hmmm
Let me know your thoughts
I think you are very optimistic about Portland’s desire to…
1. Reacquaint themselves with Rasheed Wallace (who absolutely stunk this year, of course).
2. Give up on a #1 pick who has suffered a couple injuries, but displayed immense potential when active.
3. Shoot themselves in the dick.
I wouldn’t do Rudy straight up for those two guys, and I’m damn sure Cho will not make that his first move as GM. It’s about as likely as Rudy for Rondo.
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oden is Portland’s best player
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by thomasikehara on Jul 28, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
The next sound you would hear
would be the Portland GM’s house being torn down by angry Blazer fans.
The next thing he would hear is laughter at the thought
Who knows what happens to Oden? But, he’s got more value than Davis. FYI, Oden’s a RFA next year and so could be as much of a money save in a year as Sheed would be this year.
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And I thought trade suggestions on Blazersedge were ridiculous.
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rudy is the kind of shot in the arm this team needs rondo needs a running mate some one alley oop to we have no one who can complete the play garnett cant jump any more
by thuggedoutinGreen on Jul 28, 2010 8:33 AM EDT reply actions
completely agree
It’s Rondo’s team now but if we want to maximize his talent then he needs weapons around him:
- guys who can really run the floor, finish well in transition – athletic wing/s (DON’T HAVE)
- guys who can finish alley oops – bouncy young big guy (DON’T HAVE)
- spot up outside shooters (RAY, PAUL, NATE, KG)
by milt palacio's shot on Jul 28, 2010 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Rudy fits nicely
but you won’t be fond of the Matador D
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"We think Semih is capable of playing backup minutes for us,’’ Ainge said.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha………
where? in Maine?
Is it Soup Yet?
Bradley's worth way more than Rudy.
The guy’s not a bad shooter, but if you can absorb 6 million from another team, you don’t have to give up players to get talent.
On the Portland side, they wouldn’t dream of parting with Oden, and Joel Pryzbilla’s expiring contract is also a lot more valuable than anyone is giving it credit for.
I bet they figure into the Chris Paul trade as the third team.
by superluminal on Jul 28, 2010 9:06 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
True about Pryz' expiring contract being valuable.
I thought I read that it is being paid by insurance until he comes back too (I could be wrong). Doubly valuable.
You're all wrong
Rudy is excellent. Think Dan Majerle. He is an aggressive player who loves to run the floor, is a stellar finisher, can hit from outside, and plays good D. I’d be ALL OVER this idea.
The problem would be Portland finding about $4-5 million in salary trash to send with Rudy for Sheed’s “expiring contract.” No way does the Vanilla Gorilla or any other player on Portland’s current roster get included. They have to pick up some trash in another deal.
How can anyone come to s definitive assessment of Erden based on summer league, particularly on a team being run by the selfish ball-hog Lafayette? You’ll eat those words, Master Po!
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Is it Soup Yet?
I'm more familiar with crow, myself, LOL
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Rudy plays good defense?
That would be good news for us Blazer fans. Unfortunately, he plays some of the worst defense you’ll ever see. He’s not bad at getting steals (and that’s the entire source of the idea he can play D), but that’s at the expense of taking risks and getting blown by most of the time. His man to man defense is really atrocious. On Blazersedge, we often refer to it as “ole defense.”
Still on the Rex bandwagon.
For a one-dimensional offensive player
You’d expect him to hit a higher percentage. He did step it up in the playoffs, though, so that’s a plus.
Still, last season, delonte outshot him 44.5%-37.8% overall
by nba is the worst on Jul 28, 2010 10:53 AM EDT reply actions
Rudy completely disappeared in the playoffs last year.
Ask ANY Blazer fan. He drove us all into despising him in just one playoff series. IT WAS BAD.
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by FiveOhThree-RipCity!! on Jul 28, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd trade Rudy for draft picks now.
2011 and 2012 1st round picks from Boston would get it done.
Maybe even just a 2011 and the rights to swap 2012’s. I feel like Boston’s 2012 pick is gonna be a lottery pick anyway, so that would be a steal in my mind. We don’t want your players. We don’t want your expiring contracts. Just a couple draft picks to take Rudy off our hands.
How I wish KP had traded him at the end of last season when he actually had value . . . . ugh.
And that Oden trade suggestion above was funny, I’ll give you that. Nice one.
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You say Portland would trade Rudy for the Celtics first round picks in 2011 and 2012?
Wow, that’d be great. Will the Celtics need to throw in Rondo and Perkins too?
Yet people don't want Delonte cause of his issues
I dunno, if Cleveland found him OK, I’d say that’s good enough for me to get Delonte. No offense to Kahn, but I can’t hold his opinion in the highest regard.
As a Blazer fan, I'm not sure Rudy is one-dimensional
I think that although Portland’s offensive scheme has been very efficient the last couple of years, it is completely the wrong system for Rudy. Don’t get me wrong, Rudy does not have the dribbling chops to penetrate or create his own shot. But, one thing no one has mentioned is his off the ball movement.
In Portland we depend on Pick’n’Pop, Broy Iso, and the corner 3. Non of these play into Rudy’s style. Rudy’s main personal flaw that I can see is he remembers his last shot too much. You were pretty much guaranteed a lights out performance if he hit his first shot as well as knew he would be on the bench if he missed two.
His first season here he was electric, but he giving playing time and got to play with Sergio Rodriguez whose style aged coach McMillian 5 years, but lent well to the off the ball movement. After his back injury in December, Rudy never got a rhythm again. Also, to say Rudy disappeared in the Playoffs is true, but the only reason Portland has been a threat against fast-paced offensive teams, is because of Roy. Brandon can consistently hold the ball until there is 6 on the shot clock and take a calm quality of shot, that usually goes in, but also completely disrupts fast offensive rhythm.
I would like to see Rudy play in a system that works for his style and see if his complaining is justified. Hell, he’s in his prime, but he certainly will not be taking minutes from Brandon Roy on this squad.
he had one good game, wich made his 3 point percentage go way up
but games 1-5, he was non existent
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by thomasikehara on Jul 28, 2010 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
yes
get him danny!
we have no 1st round draft pick this year so thats out the door.
interesting about packaging other blazers players, wonder who we’re talking about. pryzbillia?
could we work out a 3 team deal and land rudy, shaq and another player?
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i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Jul 28, 2010 11:59 AM EDT reply actions
how about a 3 team deal with the cav's
the cav’s ship parker to teh blazers for rudy and a future pick, we send rasheed to cleveland for moon, rudy and sign and trade shaq with teh remaining money (somewhere between $3-4m). gives us 3 players and a full roster that im happy with.
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im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Jul 28, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Fernandez and Erdin
If you say so, Eeyore. I haven’t seen Fernandez. But I watched a few Orlando games and Semih Erden looked no better than POB. You are correct though that Lafayette did not show well as a distributor.
Give it time.
I love how people expect every player to just step in and be the next Hakeem. International players especially take time to adapt. Semih has some solid post moves, and although they need polishing, give Clifford Ray some time with him and you can really see some development. He’s also just learning the language, and trying to adapt to the speed of the NBA game. It’s a whole different world that international play. He improved in every game he played in, and as his confidence grows, he could really develop. His natural abilities with great length, an athletic frame for a big guy, and good hands give him all the tools to succeed. The rest is just the mental aspects, and that takes time.
"Give it time"
That might be right if by “time” you mean 2-3 years, not 2-3 months. Because Semi’s a long, long way from ready.
I didn’t see good footwork from him in any phase of the game, and that should have translated. And I didn’t see much aggression. Those things can change, as you say, but I wouldn’t expect him to flip a switch this year.
Nor I.
I wouldn’t either, but I think he could become depth chart relevant by the end of the year. The Celtics don’t need 25 minutes out of him, they need maybe 15. Then once Perk is back, they need maybe 5-10.
I think he’ll be capable of eating up some back-up minutes this year. I don’t expect any real production, but all he has to do is learn to play D, anything else is just icing.
Don’t think he’d get more than 5-8, none when perk returns
by Warrior Spirit on Jul 29, 2010 1:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm just trusting Danny, regarding Erden
I only saw Erden play two other times, on his euro team, and he was “meh.” But if Danny says so, that’s what I’m going with.
I love Rudy, though. Last year he was hurt (wrist) and got involved in the controversy there. He’s stellar.
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I hate this "I trust Danny" stuff. Why bother having a message board then?
Was he right about Patrick O’Bryant or Shelden Williams, for example? and those guys are real NBA players.
Guys like O'Bryant, Shelden Williams, and Semih Erden are low-cost experiments.
Sometimes they pan out. Most of the time they don’t. With Erden, we’ll have to wait and see.
he should do well in Boston
he just did not work for us to well as BRoy chewed up most of his minutes, we just do not have enough minutes to offer Rudy with the addition of Wesley Matthews.
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I think Fernandez would be a good fit. He’s exciting to watch, but I have to agree about his poor defense. how about bringing back Delonte and RYAN GOMES!!!
Well, we need a long shooter
I just know that Danny’s torn between getting a shooting wing and another big, and it appears he has only Sheed, the vet’s minimum, Bradley and/or a draft pick in his arsenal to get both. Whoever he gets, he’ll appear to be coming up short on ONE of them unless he pulls off a mini-miracle.
We get Rudy, then that’s probably it for Sheed’s contact, and a quality backup big.
Gonna get interesting.
Get Rudy but keep Sheed...
Do not let Sheed go. Give up a first rounder and OL/TG and that’s all. And while you’re at it DA get Shaq signed. Go Cs…
No way
A 1st rounder 2 years from now from the Celtis could be a top 5 pick. The only deal i would do is sheed and 2nd. and if they don’t accept, then i’d be fine with Matt Janning taking his spot, they are very similar players. I’d be a
okay with a bench of:
Nate\bradley
Janning\bradley or delonte
Daniels\Deshawn Sims
Baby\sean williams or tolliver
in our second unit Doc should employ a running offense, if you can get rondo with at least 2 other athletes he will have at least 12 assist a game.
This bench will not cut it.
Unless Bradley can explode into the scene really quick. Even Rondo took a few years to become a stud…No to Delonte… Fernandez is ok but his defense is suspect…You’ll get the shooting that you’re looking for from the bench though.
Here is the thing
I think its a bad idea to trade the future(pick) for a semi championship run, I think this run will be us taking a chance that something goes wrong with miami, chicago, and lakers, so we an step in and steal the title. dont forget that we got Big Al with the 15th pick. and by the way things are going in the east we look like a 15th pick in next years draft.
I look at bradley the same way i look at Jennings, a rookie that can contribute.
reminds me of some of the ludicrous trades that Blazer fans suggest
Trade Jerryd Bayless and a box of Cracker Jacks to NO for Chris Paul.
lol
Blazers fans are crazy, they want to have their cake and eat it too.
But the sad thing is that they have the assets to get CP3, but they don’t want to give them up.
It’s cool to have all the young talent, but if you want to win it all you have to sacrifice, unless you are the lakers, then you get a superstar power foward falling out of the sky for free.
The blazers are losing a great opportunity in their quest for a championship, trading for CP3 and a healthy Oden would win the west. if they had paul that team would be scary, even without him they always beat the lakers.
CP3\Miller\Johnson\Bayless
Roy\Mattews\williams
Batum\babbit\cunningham
Aldrige\pendengraph
Camby\Oden\Przybilla
Amazing roster even if CP3 does not go to Portland
Rudy would look great in Celtic Green
Dunno how many of you have ever got a chance to watch him up close, but this guy is like the second coming of HONDO.
Give him some minutes in a game and watch how much he can change the flow of a game in your favor. He’d be the perfect back-up to Ray Allen.
What about the 3 spot?
We need a guard/forward or just a straight up small forward.As much as I like the idea of Fernandez coming to Boston I dont think he can play the 3 spot well enough.On the other hand Fernandez would be great to come in for Ray Allen.After Allen being hot and cold in the finals Rudy could help.We have all seen one shooter get hot then another follow.When Allen is off he could come in and if he started hitting from beyond the arch Allen might follow, or the other way around.
Still think we need someone else at the 3 spot to help.We are deeper in guards than any other position.
GUARDS- Allen, Bradley, Rondo, Robinson, Gaffney, Lafayette, and Daniels who is more of a 2 than 3.
FORWARDS- Pierce, Daniels, Davis, and Garnett
CENTERS- Erden, O’Neal, and Perkins
Only two Guys at the 3, five bigs, and seven guards
TRADE for RUDY
just worked out a trade with knicks and portland ,and celtics we get rudy from portland and turiaf from knicks.Portland gets Lafajette from us and walker from knicks .Knicks get wallace and gaffney from us and pendrgraph from portland we kill two birds with one stone sf and pf/c
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