Celtics In Negotiations For Rudy Fernandez
by Tom Halzack on Jul 28, 2010 10:49 PM EDT
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Update from Jason Quick's Twitter: Rudy trade talks likely on back burner until Sunday. GM Cho tells agent Andy Miller he will meet w/coach McMillan in Vegas on Sun to discuss
The Boston Celtics are currently in the ‘lead position’ in negotiations with the Portland Trailblazers for Rudy Fernandez, according to a source. They have been in serious discussions since yesterday.
Other teams interested include New York and Chicago, but the Celtics are apparently getting the first shot, thus allowing one to assume they are a preferred destination, either in terms of desirability for Rudy or trading pieces for the Blazers.
Because of that information, I contacted Jason Quick, beat writer for the Oregonian (entering his 10th year), who was kind enough to offer an everyday observer and accomplished writer’s view of Rudy Fernandez.
From that conversation…
Rudy sees the court well and will, at times, go for the between the legs (or the other players legs) pass. His teammates have to be alert for passes at any time as Rudy loves to pass and plays a very unselfish game when he gets the ball.
Fernandez feels that he is more than a one dimensional player and just wants the chance to prove it.
Jason agrees that Rudy isn’t among the quickest afoot, and doesn’t beat many people off the dribble, but says it wouldn’t be fair to characterize him as slow either. He gets open often by constantly running around the court through screens, similarly to Reggie Miller (or Rip Hamilton – my thought). He also is able to get free of his defender by running him into picks.
Rudy has added a tear drop shot in the lane in games, that he has been working on for a while in practice. While not a reliable shot yet, it should improve with time.
Rudy has quick hands and is a good anticipator in passing lanes. He was 3rd on the team in steals (62) and excellent in steals per minute played (2.06 per 48 minutes).
From Jason Quick’s recent article…
Fernandez, 25, is unhappy in Portland because of limited playing time behind All-Star Brandon Roy and because of the playing style of coach Nate McMillan, who primarily used Fernandez as an outside shooter, not the playmaker Fernandez believes he can be in the NBA.
Because of Rudy’s build he can be challenged defensively in the post at times and backed down by larger guards. Fernandez is 6’ 6" and is listed at 185 lbs. With a solid frontline and the help defense that the Celtics play that would be minimized.
Jason thought Rudy’s defense would improve and he would be smart and quick enough to pick up the Celtics’ ‘help rotation style’ of defense.
So, the Celtics are working to see if something can be arranged with the Blazers.
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Thanks for the insight, Tom. I have a perception that the ridiculous take out play by Ariza a few years ago really changed Rudy’s game, and that he regressed after that. Any sense if that’s valid?
When Perk was asked what he thought of Howard winning the gold medal this summer, he responded: "What’s his impression of me after I won a ring?"
I didn't get into that.
But I would doubt it. You can’t play in this league scared.
I think he got hurt on that "play"
and for a long time after he played with leg and back pain. Then he had a minor operation on his back, and he said it totally fixed the pain he had been playing with. So I think he had a set back from his first year, and people thought he wasn’t as good because he had some nerve problem in his back. I think now he is playing better, but he’s emotional so he just didn’t play hard in Portland. I really like his game, and I think he can be a good role player, really stir things up. And he is a great passer. Anyway, just my two cents.
thanks man
helpful insight.
When Perk was asked what he thought of Howard winning the gold medal this summer, he responded: "What’s his impression of me after I won a ring?"
that is correct....
he has had back problems in the past
There is never a “minor” operation on your back, especially if it is to correct pain problems. This likely means bulging/herniated disk issues, and these don’t just go away.
Thats what I thought too, but it seems like this wasn't so bad when i read about it.
http://www.blazersedge.com/2009/12/8/1191608/rudy-fernandez-to-undergo
this link goes to a page on Blazersedge about it, if you scroll down a bit there is a good description of the surgery, it’s called microdiscectomy. It says the back is mechanically the same. I know what you mean though, if your back is messed up it sounds bad.
something that most Blazer fans seem to forget is that
Rudy went in for back surgery mid-season. The pain effected him in the first half of the season, then the conditioning wrecked him for the second half. Coming back in late January, to a team that is almost unrecognizable (Juwon Howard at starting center, seriously) with a team mindset of produce immediately or it’s the bench probably a big contributor to his dip in production.
This time last year, there were two new players that were untouchables in Blazer fans eyes… Batum and Rudy. Batum is still there (with the exception of CP3 talks) but Rudy’s position and need for minutes makes him available. There’s no way he’s taking Roy’s minutes, his ballhandling does not warrant point guard minutes, and besides being to slight for the 3, Batum is an animal. Rudy will be a good pickup, although I don’t see how minutes-wise it’ll be much better for him in Boston, obviously Ray Allen is still the man at 2 and that’s not changing this year.
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Link?
Can I get a link to the Celtics being the lead to get him?
this is the link....
Tom, in his capacity as an NBA reporter, is reporting it through his sources.
When Perk was asked what he thought of Howard winning the gold medal this summer, he responded: "What’s his impression of me after I won a ring?"
Tenacious T is the Link
He’s an actual reporter. The real McCoy. Exciting, huh?
Reporter: About a year ago I asked about the Celtics-Lakers thing and you said you'd really only seen it on TV. Now you've been through it, can you talk about playing the Boston Celtics for the NBA championship?
Kobe: It Sucks.
by indeedproceed on Jul 28, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow
CelticsBlog being an original source for information, you guys have stepped your game up.
Well lets not be hasty. I know I for one am still the same sarcastic link jockey I always have been.
Reporter: About a year ago I asked about the Celtics-Lakers thing and you said you'd really only seen it on TV. Now you've been through it, can you talk about playing the Boston Celtics for the NBA championship?
Kobe: It Sucks.
by indeedproceed on Jul 28, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
This isn’t a new feature….you must have missed that we had Tom and Jimmy Toscano covering each home game and filing recaps complete with quotes etc from players all season.
When Perk was asked what he thought of Howard winning the gold medal this summer, he responded: "What’s his impression of me after I won a ring?"
Could See Rudy
Eventually taking over the starting 2 position for Ray when he retires in two years, or agrees to come off the pine at that time.
Hope so.
Or come of the bench. Unless the Cs are entered in a wheelchair bball league.
RA’s in great shape for a guy his age, but time is merciless.
He won't retire in two years
But he would be great off the bench
by Warrior Spirit on Jul 28, 2010 5:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Ray can run around 25 year-old's until he's forty...
Ray is super fit for anybody’s age…
I’d take Ray’s stamina and athletic shape in two years over most 28 year-old players in the league.
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by Flight2BOSTON on Jul 28, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Please, please get him
We get a young guy that can run with Rondo, a future replacement for Ray Allen and we nearly complete our bench for this year all in one fell swoop. If we get Rudy, all we really need to do is sign one big and one wing (preferably a defensive specialist) to the vet. minimum each, both as insurance policies more than anything. A bench of Nate, Rudy, Marquis, Baby, and JO is an excellent bench. Plus if Danny can sign a guy a la James Jones, than we will be impressively deep on the wing in case Marquis doesn’t work out again.
I think Rondo and Rudy would work really well together
Rudy’s backdoor cut is a thing of beauty… with the threat of KG rolling down the lane, defenses will lose sight of Rudy, you would see a lot of Rondo to Rudy alley oops.
Could be a really good trade for you guys, I just hope Portland gets something useful out of this
Well I hope we don't have to throw in one of our young guys, but might have to
I really like both Avery and Luke. But Portland is still on a youth movement and you might want one of them.
2012 1st rounder....
Plus maybe a second rounder this year… or send Bradley/second rounder….
I can’t see Portland requesting Marquis.
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by Flight2BOSTON on Jul 28, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
REALITY CHECK
If rudy has back problems——this would be a white elaphant—sad to say——a healthy rudy would be great—-but—what is his condition? still should get SHAQUILLE FOR BIG CENTER….
Get them
If C’s can get West and Fernandez, ill be happy haha :P
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by AiTheLAviTiCuS#21 on Jul 28, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Both!
Well that would be nice but in order to get a big and keep Bradley and harangody, erden would have to be moved.
Don’t think it likely that we get both, thought we would have the deepest roster in the league, I bet daniels would be the odd man out again and we use
Nate
delonte
Rudy
baby
and unnamed big here
though I again say not happening
by Warrior Spirit on Jul 28, 2010 5:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Well I was hoping this means NO DELONTE.
by Bankshot on Jul 28, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes!!!
Delonte is not the type of player i wanted to see in Boston…
Rudy is the kind of player i think could mesh with our style…. HIGH IQ and knows how to contribute off the bench. He would see significant time since I think Doc doesn’t have must trust invested in Marquis.
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by Flight2BOSTON on Jul 28, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure Rudy would be comfortable with a bench role
He might be the kind of player that needs a lot of minutes and a “starring” role to be successful — at least that’s what his two years in the NBA have indicated. He thrives on emotion and energy and he’s not very productive when his heart isn’t in it. It’s been hard for him to play behind an all-star in Portland and I’m not sure he’d be any happier in Boston.
He was a superstar in Europe before coming to the NBA, and he’s had a hard time seeing himself as a role player of any sort in the NBA. He’s got some talent, for sure, but his play just hasn’t warranted the kind of minutes he seems to expect.
But the risk is pretty low and the potential reward high- he can probably be had for a future first rounder.
by IntergalacticP on Jul 30, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Rudy is 25
He’s got a long future in front of him.
Could you get a better player in the draft? Maybe. But your odds of doing that at the 20-25th position are no better than 50-50.
In all likeliness I think there must be one
Or rather giving up a young guy. I would say it is sheed plus either erden (hope so), Bradley or a pick for Rudy plus another piece say prysbilla. Or it is just bradley or erden plus a pick, hopefully erden and a 1st rounder can do it, but there must be some reason the blazers want to do it as chi/ny both have moveable pieces
by Warrior Spirit on Jul 28, 2010 3:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
1st Rd Pick
That’s probably our only option, Portland is not trying to dump him, they want some real value. To make the slaaries match we could include both Gaffney and Lafayette (trade checker ID 5649890). The only player that matches up is Bradley. I can’t see Danny doing that, but … . There’s Sheed’s contract but that doesn’t get Portland anything and they’d have to include another player or players to match salaries and we don’t have the roster spots. Personally, I don’t see much on Portland roster unless they want to expand the trade and include Camby or Oden, which I can’t see them doing. So my guess is Gaffney, Lafayette and a 1st rd pick. A remote option is a Gaffney, Lafayette, a 2nd rd pick and cash (lots of cash).
we dont have a 1st rounder this year
minny has it.
do we really want to send a 1st rounder for 2012 or 13 for rudy? i mean thats likely when we will be a struggling team and picking rather low in the draft is a real possibility
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Jul 28, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
That's Why He Said 2012 or 2013... Not 2011.
I think a 2012 1st-rounder is a great idea for Rudy….
Rondo and Perk is still a decent squad to have when Ray and P-Square are a little older…. Although i don’t think Ray will be any slower.
2012 we will still be a solid team that will make the playoffs…. KG, Ray, Pierce, Rondo, Nate, and Jermaine guaranteed as long as they don’t get traded… This is Perk’s contract year…. and cause he is now injured… I thnk the Celt’s could get a quality discount on his contract.
2013 is another story…. KG might not be there… Perk might not… Only Pierce and Rondo are truly guaranteed to be there…
2012 first-rounder is great for RUDY!!!!
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by Flight2BOSTON on Jul 28, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
The only rook with a guaranteed contract is erden
Bradley, gaffney and layfayette all on non guaranteed terms meaning not officially on the team non on the hook for the salary, the cap or the roster spots.
Rudy is more of a guarantee than bradley, I can definetly see ainge doing it, I can also
see this as the piece they want, with a 2nd rounder to get it done. I do hope though it is erden and a 1st or erden layfayette and a 1st, or sheed and erden plus cash and maybe a 2nd for Rudy and pryz
by Warrior Spirit on Jul 28, 2010 5:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
1st rounders have guaranteed contracts im almost positive
which means bradley’s deal is guaranteed
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Jul 28, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Correct
Bradley and Erden have guaranteed contracts. Gaffney and Lafayette are the only two with non guaranteed contracts.
glad to hear danny has his face buried
he’s made some nice/short term commitments. w/o fleecing too much of the future next yr’s team has assets and is poised for another strong season. personally i feel the celts need another project to groom and compliment rondo. someone’s going to over pay, but rudy sounds bitter about the nba and could force a buy-out to return to spain with rickie rubio
I think Rudy would Love BEAN-TOWN
Rudy loves to compete…. He plays hard on both ends… and just wants to contribute…
Rudy would be incredible within our team style offense and team defense. If Rudy comes over, and feels what it is like to put on the “Green” and play within the Garden…. He will never go back and play for Spain over Boston…. He will thrive coming off our bench and will love being on a quality contending team in the NBA.
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by Flight2BOSTON on Jul 28, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks guys
Swear I thought I read he was non guaranteed. I’ll take your word for it.
Still think he could easily be what they want in return. Plus a pick knowing that in future years it could be mid to high teens during a possible Rondo “bridge years”
Would you do it?
by Warrior Spirit on Jul 28, 2010 11:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
U might have
I erroneously posted that on here a while back because one of the websites I pulled salary info from had him listed as nonguaranteed. Every other place lists his contract as guaranteed though – so I’m pretty sure it is.
Rudy's Olympic dunk on Dwight Howard
he may not be the quickest guy on the court, but he seems fearless…..check it out!
Must admit...
I’d love another guy on the team that despises Dwight Howard and posterizes that man-baby.
curious to find out what pieces they're discussing
2nd rounders, summer league guys to go along with sheed’s contract? don’t see us giving up Nate, Davis, Bradley or Daniels in exchange,
2nd unit might be:
C: free agent big?, PF: Davis, SF: Daniels, SG: Hernandez, PG: Robinson
that leaves little to no playing time for Bradley or Harangody if he gets signed
There are such things as injuries and Daniels is a bit of an injury magnet.
I also think Harangody forces playing time for himself.
Daniels kind of remindes me of a smaller Pervis Ellison looks wise
and just as injury prone but I think that Quis has played more games overall
would like to see Luke get some minutes, hard work should be rewarded
heard also...
sheeds contract + lafayette + gaffney + a conditional 1st for Rudy + Pryzbilla (still injured tho)…
if pryzzy will be able to comeback this season, i’d jump on this deal!
everyone is forgetting
No one is giving Avery Bradley or Luke Harangody a chance. I believe that at least on if not both of these players will make an impact this year. Bradley will definitely get more time that Daniels when it is all said and done. And I look for Harangody to be the third big off the bench behind JO and Baby
Don't hold out hope for this
Doc does not play rookies
by Warrior Spirit on Jul 28, 2010 3:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And If We Get Rudy....
I don’t thnk it is feasible to see Rudy at the 3 and Bradley at the 2…
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by Flight2BOSTON on Jul 28, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Rudy can't guard 3s
The only reason Portland was able to play him some at the 3 was because Roy could guard other teams’ forwards.
by IntergalacticP on Jul 30, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
as fans, we'll give them a chance
but as Warrior Spirit says, it’s up to Doc who plays and unless we are in rebuilding mode, he normally doesn’t play rookies and if he does play them, he’ll look for defense first over offense, luckily for Avery and Luke, they are defensive minded.
Don't hold your breath
Doc barely plays rookies even in rebuilding mode. Rondo barely saw the light of day his rookie season of 2006 even though they only won 24 games and the team was terrible. We also had what seemed like a promising young Gerald Green in his second year and a Rookie Leon Powe that barely played a minute.
He will always play veterans even when there are injuries. Just look at last season when they had Walker and Giddens sitting at the end of the bench rotting while there were a bunch of injuries. They both played decent enough when they finally got some minutes but Doc was so inconsistent with giving them PT that it was ridiculous. I’m not saying they are great players but give them a chance once in awhile.
This is one of the things that will always irritate me about Doc. It’s an 82 game season. Give the young guys a chance to show us if they can play in the league and also give the older guys some rest along the way. It just makes no sense why he refuses to do this.
They played “decent enough”? You must be kidding. Giddens wasn’t (and isn’t) an NBA player, Walker’s “defense” mainly consisted of committing awful fouls. Young players have fared exceptionally well under Doc when it was clear they can help the team — as evidenced by the fact that none of those allegedly “decent enough” players has blossomed away from “youth-killer” Rivers.
Lol @ a "promising" Gerald Green
You realize after being on 3 other teams (Timberwolves, Rockets, Mavericks), Gerald Green isn’t even in the NBA anymore, right?
he's playing in russia i believe
may toughen him up
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Jul 28, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I do agree
Give the starters more rest and see what the rooks can do, give them time to develop and learn before you ship them to ny
by Warrior Spirit on Jul 28, 2010 5:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Really
Of course, I don’t know what you mean by your comments. As for Rondo “barely saw the light of day his rookie season of 2006” He played in 78 games 1831 mins for an ave of 23 mins per game.
Here are some other rookies:
Ryan Gomes – 61G – 1376 mins – 22 MPG
TA – 77G – 1262 mins – 16MPG
DW – 39G – 507 mins – 13 MPG (I believe he had injury problems his rookie season or he’d have played more,
BBD – 69G – 940 mins – 13 mins
Powe – 63G – 940 mins -10 MPG
The 2 HS Kids and I believe both Doc and Danny wanted to play them very conservatively because they were HS Kids.
AL Jeff – 71G – 1051 mins – 15 MPG
GG – 32G – 374 mind – 12 MPG (played a lot on the D-League) but his 2nd year 81G – 1179 mins – 22 MPG
It seems to me that he does play rookie, just not as much as you want. BTW, this is the NBA not the YMCA Kiddies league (where everyone has to play 12 mins per game). Doc has a policy about EARNING PT. You and I don’t know what goes on in training camp, practices or during film sessions, that’s where they EARN PT.
It seems to me that Doc has a pretty good job developing young players – BBD and Rondo on the current team. And the KG trade, Minn sure wanted Al Jeff, GG and Ryan Gomes (and Rondo, but Danny refused) and TA and DW are good NBA players. Could he have done better? Maybe. All I know for sure is that the last 3 seasons have been awful good and it took the losing years, developing the kids to either fill rotation spots or to be used as trade assets to make us what we are today.
I know we all want and believe the kids will turn out to be STARS, unfortunately that isn’t the case. If most of them turn out to be starters or rotation players that’s a big win for any GM. Most of the SUPERSTARS are the luck of the draw/lottery. Getting Rondo with the 21st pick is a really a fluke – just great luck!
Bradley has a chance, but probably not this year. He is not a polished rookie. He has great potential, but it is too early to expect anything.
by guava_wrench on Jul 28, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
i think he'll get minutes
just not alot. likely 3-5 minutes here and there until he proves he can make an impact
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Jul 28, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he'll be more likely to get minutes
because he plays defense, and that is what will get him on the floor.
185 pounds??
I’m 185 lbs, but 6 to 7 inches shorter and I’m not at all bulky… how is he supposed to guard the players that they’re talking about??
I’m not sure why, but when I read the description of him as a player all I could think of was what I read last year about Marquis Daniels “smart player, not paricularly fast, has been working on a tear drop / floater that is ok but not reliable.” Obviously they’re different, but still, I’m not getting particularly excited about this. I will be curious though to see who we give up to get him.
It makes no sense whatsoever to compare him with Scal.
by guava_wrench on Jul 28, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Jiri Welsch
was the guy traded to get us Rondo. So you gotta love him for that!
Fernandez and Quisy are very different players, at least on offense
Fernandez is a very, very good jump shooter with 3-point range. In his rookie season, Fernandez took more than five 3s a game and hit 40% of them. Last year he regressed – and hit 37%.
Quisy, on the other hand, is a career 23% shooter from 3, who’s never averaged even 2 per game (probably because his coach would never let him). He lives with mid-range jumpers and finding his way into the lane. For him, not having a blow-by first step is a much bigger deal.
He's a 2 no doubt
Quis is backing up the 3. Let’s hope he can stay moderately healthy.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
He even weighs considerably less than Matt Barnes, and Barnes looks pretty lanky.
by guava_wrench on Jul 28, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s Been on the radar for us since fa started, I hope we land him
by ardvark on Jul 28, 2010 3:42 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
bear in mind guys...
this is still in negotiation phase. The Cs have the first shot in the renewed effort and they are taking it. At this time, that is all it is.Though having first shot might indicate preference, it doesn’t mean a done deal.
Let’s see. Reading the latest scoop on the issue, I find Fernandez requested a trade because:
1. He wasn’t happy with playing time being stuck behind Brandon Roy.
2. He wasn’t happy with being used primarily as a shooter.
3. He wants to be on a team where he can play a larger role.
4. He wants to be more of a playmaker.
Can anyone explain what in particular will make Boston a good fit for him? He’ll be stuck behind Ray Allen and Paul Pierce, sharing time with Daniels and Robinson. He will primarily be used as “another shooter”, as per Ainge’s recap of what we need, and he will be a 20-mpg player as he was in Portland.
Well
Nate spells rondo
quisy and Rudy spell Paul and Ray
Rudy is a better shooter than anyone on the team save Ray or Paul, and a better playmaker than quisy, if he can grasp the team defense, he will get more minutes than quisy playing both sg and sf, he plays well enough he could be our 6th man and could push both nate and quisy back in the rotation
and he has a better shot at a title with this team than with Portland, Chicago or ny
by Warrior Spirit on Jul 28, 2010 4:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I believe he was unhappy about being behind Roy due to the fact that their are both of the same age – The prospect of taking over as a starting SG in a few years was never there, given that status of Roy. However I believe that would be something he could accept in Boston, in addition to the fact that a shot at the title/getting deep in the playoffs seem more realistic in the coming season.
I didn’t see “a shot at the title” on his laundry list of complaints. He’s mostly whining about his role, which is never a good sign — players who are good enough to have an extended role on a team can usually command their minutes with their play.
To be fair
There aren’t alot of Brandon Roys around the league so I’m not sure the situation is very comparable. Especially in regards to the age of the players he would be backing up in Boston.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
Who wouldn't want a shot at the title?
It doesn’t have to be spelled out on his laundry list, but who wouldn’t want to be at the pinnacle in their chosen field? And playing for a title contender clearly qualifies as that.
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by The Village Idiot on Jul 28, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Jarvis Hayes
I wouldn’t be upset about getting Rudy, but I think Jarvis Hayes would be a better fit. He’s bigger (6’8") and a SF. He is a known commodity – he’s averaged between 6-10 pts per game with a good shooting percentage. He can knock down 3 pters which we can use. He’s probably going to sign for the Vet Min and we could probably get him on a 2 yr deal, which goes along with Danny plan.
I’d be happy getting Rudy, but my concern is that he will probably cost us a 1st rd pick. Danny is pretty good at drafting, and draft picks come with cost certainty. Also, in 2 yrs Rudy will be a FA and will probably want a big deal or head back to Europe. And he will count on our cap until he signs somewhere or is renounced. So we need to think about the long term effect.
I think playing style and being in a big market are the differences
With Rondo, Rudy will have a chance to shine with is off the ball movement. Also, Rudy was a huge star in the Euro-league. Portland is small rainy potatoes and Fernandez took a huge pay-cut to prove his ability to play in the NBA. With Portland’s signing of Wesley Mathews, Roy’s age, McMillian’s dependence on spot-up corner three… all of these things worked against Rudy’s strengths as a player
Oohh
Forgot about Wesley Matthews!
This would not help with Rudys desire to stay.
Though it may mean that they could be plied without Bradley. Maybe Lafayette and Erden plus a pick could be enough. If this harangody kid is as good as everyone seems to think then hopefully it is not him. laf/gaf and harangody plus a 2nd rounder? Would you do it? Guess I must have high hopes or a good feeling bout him cause I am less inclined to di this and think a 1st rounder would be too much to ask, at least protect it anyway
by Warrior Spirit on Jul 29, 2010 12:29 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
They don't call him Tenacious for nothing!!!!
I’ve personally have never broken a story……..but I have ruined a few…..
So Rudy likes to shoot three’s eh? Wow that’s a relief….I thought we were going to be stuck with only about 7 or 8 players who like to shoot three’s…..the heck with ramming it low…..let’s load up for theAll-Star break
My dreams of Delonte may be fading …..as we search out West
Shane…..Shane……………….come back..Shaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaane …..come back……
Nice work TT…..!!!
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admit it!
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who else
by Warrior Spirit on Jul 28, 2010 5:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Woke up the baby
I laughed so heartily
thanks
everyone needs a challenge sometimes
by Warrior Spirit on Jul 29, 2010 12:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Rudy = Epic Win
Rudy would drastically address our needs at the 2 and with the possible S & T, could mean that a solution to the 5.
He is without a doubt an underrated player with a gigantic upside.
(see the match against team USA two years ago in Beijing)
Also, he could become the starter as time progresses and Sugar Ray needs less minutes.
Danny should make this happen.
by Daniel Columbias on Jul 28, 2010 4:07 PM EDT reply actions
if they include...
Joel Pryzbilla and if and when he is healthy, that would be interesting. Danny has liked Pryzbilla in the past.
I have no information whatsoever saying Joel is another player being considered.
Lol and I thought I was a ball of sunshine...
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
acutally
reports say he will be ready by training camp
Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
marty>babbitt
by thomasikehara on Jul 28, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
ok but who are we giving up?
would portland take back sheed’s contract plus a number 1? I’m sure it will cost us a first rounder or maybe our first round pick this year .
I hope it is Sheed's contract and not a 1
If they are going to give up a number 1 pick I would rather they try to trade for Xavier Henry who hasn’t signed yet and would be an ideal backup for Pierce and is a shooter
I Seond Mr. BankShot
I’d also like to see Maquis be traded for Rudy…. I think we could do better at finding a back-up for Pierce…..
I really think there are teams like Houston or Pheonix that will be out of the playoff race and looking to dump some players…. Like Grant Hill… Ariza… Jason Richardson…. For draft picks and young players like Bradley….
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by Flight2BOSTON on Jul 28, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup Rudy is taller, younger and has more upside in offense.
That back might be an issue… And if Doc doesnt give him minutes what then….
Boston-based Blazer fan here
As an avid Blazer fan who happens to live in Boston (and is therefore very familiar with the Celts too), I think this trade could potentially have a HUGE upside for Boston. It’s easy to forget now, but this is the same Rudy Fernandez who had a fantastic 2008 Olympics and a great rookie season for the Blazers. He had a down year last year, but I think it was largely due to a nagging back/nerve injury and general rustiness upon return. I also don’t think Fernandez was particulary well-utilized by Nate McMillan.
Rudy has a Reggie Miller-esque knack for making clutch shots that demoralize the other team, and he is deceptively athletic. If he plays with Rondo, he will not only hit a lot of open threes, but he will get a ton of alley-oop dunks on backdoor screens, something Rudy is excellent at doing if he has the assistance of a good and willing lob passer.
On offense, Rudy has the potential to provide everything Ray Allen does, plus some. As for defense, Rudy is not the best on-ball defender, but he is good at getting in passing lanes and in the right defensive system, could prove to be an excellent rotation/help defender. He’s very long and quick. He just some clear instruction. But he’s smart and a quick learner, so he should learn Boston’s defensive schemes quickly.
Depending on what Boston has to give up to get him (which I can’t imagine will be that much), this has the potential to be a really fantastic pick up. Rudy feeds off crowds and would really thrive in the Garden.
www.ripcitydispatch.com
Well Put :P
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by AiTheLAviTiCuS#21 on Jul 28, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
If all this is true, and given that Fernandez is signed for a bargain price over the next 3 seasons, why is not Portland doing everything possible to convince him to stay?
True, he’s somewhat redundant playing behind a franchise player, but they rotated Batum and Wright at the other swingman position, fwiw.
Because Rudy wants out
Rudy knows he will never start in Portland because our franchise player is a young SG (Roy) and our other starting wing (Batum) is 21 and also has enormous potential. He ideally wants to be in 1) a bigger market and 2) a place where he has some hope of starting eventually. Boston would be a great place for him because it’s a bigger market and Ray Allen won’t be there forever.
The Blazers valued Fernandez so much that they turned down a number of offers for him last year. But they just couldn’t keep him happy. Now he wants out.
www.ripcitydispatch.com
I haven’t seen anything indicating that he wants to be in a bigger market. He’s been just whining about his role.
Ray Allen won’t be here forever, but he’ll be here fore the next two years. It’s hard for me to believe that Fernandez is content maybe starting in 2 years, given that his contract is not even guaranteed by this point.
2 reason
he wants to be on the east coast so he’s closer to home(spain) and wants a larger role than spot up shooter.
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Jul 28, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Reason 1 is pure speculation.
Reason 2 is weird, given that Ainge explicitly said he’s looking for another shooter (and a big).
those are the reason being reported though
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Jul 28, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
I live in Spain and I´ve seen Rudy play since he was 15 (in his former team Juventud de Badalona and in the Spanish national team) In the US, he´s well known for being a shooter, but, believe it or not, he´s more of an all around player: he can pass and shoot, he can grab rebounds (OK, if he´s in the mood), he´s got quick hands, he CAN DUNK, he´s unselfish, he´s a good teammate…. I couldn´t imagine a better destination for Rudy than Boston. Hey Danny, DO IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fernandez was a heck of a passer, shooter, rebounder and dunker in Spanish basketball?
That’s fine. Still, not to be condescending or anything, but you’d probably grant that perhaps the level of competition is a bit tougher in the NBA.
Well, he played great for the Spanish national team that won the World Championship in 2006 (US lost to Greece in the semis. We crushed Greece by 20 or 30 in the Final without Pau Gasol, who was injured by Scola in the semis. Not to be condescending either) and I´m sure that you remember him dunking on Dwight Howard in the Olympics.
What I mean is that Rudy was never a shooter until the last two years he played in Spain. He used to score his points driving to the hoop and dunking, basically. But he realised that he needed to develop a reliable jump shot to play in the NBA, where his lack of bulk could be a problem. He´s more than a shooter….. And he wants to play for the Celtics, believe me.
Thanks a lot. And one more thing. I think that the problem with Rudy in Portland is that lifestyle up there is sooo different from Europe´s. As far as I remember, 3 spanish players have played in Portland (Rudy, Sergio Rodriguez, and Fernando Martin (mid 80´s, coached by Mike “Spain loves you” Schuler), who, unfortunately, died in a car accident) and all of them had serious problems adjusting to the “Oregonian way of life”…. I lived in Boston for almost 2 years and it almost felt like living in Europe (no offence…) That´s why I think that Rudy would fit better in Beantown than anywhere else…. Anyway this is just wishful thinking, isn´t it ??? Dannnyyyyy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by OUMAISCOMIN on Jul 29, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
You mean Portland, the "best European city in America?"
I don’t think city quality has much to do with it (I’ve lived in Portland and Boston, and in my opinion Barcelona is light years ahead of both in terms of quality of life). Martin’s death was tragic, Sergio is simply not an NBA-level talent, and the book is still open on Rudy. But I doubt place is a factor.
I like Rudy and I want to seem him succeed, and I agree that he has a better chance of showing his versatility in Boston than in Portland’s super-slow half court system.
by IntergalacticP on Jul 30, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
i want a 3 team trade
cav’s send parker to the blazers for a pick and rudy. moon, rudy and shaq to us for rasheed and a 2nd rounder maybe.
moon makes $2.9m, 1 yr
rudy, $1.2m, 2 yr
we can take back 25% more in trade so we do a sign and trade for shaq for teh remaining, around $3.3m.
we get the tall shooter, defensive wing and the center to fill out the roster. cant beat that.
saves the cav’s $6m or so which allows them to go after howard/mcgrady, etc, etc… and they add a few picks.
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Jul 28, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
you never know he make like guys
i kid, i kid
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Jul 28, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
im psychic
you’re a early 30’s left handed white man and you drive a black truck. that will be $19.95
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Jul 28, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
so i can keep my day job then :)
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Jul 28, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Well done.
If you could also predict Ainge right 4 out of 5 guesses, you’d be quite the star here.
well
i was right about ray, paul and nate re-signing and wrong about tony staying so im 3 for 4 so far. got 2 more good one’s left in me and i say we get rudy!
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Jul 28, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol
I was holding out hope we could get him in the post kg era, alas…
by Warrior Spirit on Jul 28, 2010 6:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
anyone but shaq....
Please get this guy. He wants to prove himself. Just like nate r.
kwame brown it is
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Jul 28, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully if the C's sign Fernandez....
it wont effect if they can or can not sign Shaq.
Because I am hoping Shaq comes to Boston for just a minimum contract.
Fernandez young legs would be nice to have...
and he could be a building block for the future which I really like.
He can help the C’s short term (next season) and long term (for years down the line).
But Fernandez just does not excite me to much.
Also how much are the C’s going to give up to get him ????
I hope if they do try to acquire him they do not give up to much.
I googled Rudy Fernandez and this came up
I mean…uhhh….he looks tall…and this looks to be a Portland Traiblazer color background, plus he looks to be in his mid 30’s (so he fits on the Celtics) but I am not so sure about the moustache…..is there a team rule against that?
He does look like he once starred on an Epsidoe of Hawaii 50…..Book em Dano …..err….I mean sign him Danny,,….
Is it Soup Yet?
by Master Po on Jul 28, 2010 5:38 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
thats the celtic theme to pull the team together this year
everyone will grow moustaches
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Jul 28, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes.
Then in the finals, Larry Bird comes out of the tunnel, Willis-Reid style, and wins game 7.
that would make a great movie
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Jul 28, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm from the philippines
this guy was an actor in my country and not the same rudy fernandez in the NBA. he died of cancer a couple years ago .
Funniest overall thread Ive read in a bit, weeks I am sure
by Warrior Spirit on Jul 29, 2010 12:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
giving up bradley is a sucker move A.B is the truth baby sheed picks thats what we trade we stole bradley better defender than rudy will ever be. i love rudy if can give up those bums previously mentioned or less than let em hang ol danny your the man
by thuggedoutinGreen on Jul 28, 2010 5:51 PM EDT reply actions
this is off topic, but i'm hoping someone can tell me why real GM says ryan gomes was signed by the Celtics
http://www.realgm.com/src_freeagency_tracker.php
Scroll down.
Gomes in on Clippers roster.
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by Flight2BOSTON on Jul 28, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
still cant believe we are not the champs damn it still hurts
by thuggedoutinGreen on Jul 28, 2010 6:00 PM EDT reply actions
I wouldn’t be opposed to Rudy joining us, I agree he is hungry to impress still which could benefit us.
I can only think we would trade Sheed’s contract, and next years 1st Rnd pick.
Trading Sheed's Contract for Rudy Makes NO Sense for Port.
Sheed is making more money than Rudy this year…
Why would Portland want a retiring player being paid 6 mill for Rudy who has only 1 year at roughly 2 mill and a team option next year.
Portland is going to want either Bradley and/or draft picks like our 2012 1st-rounder and/or 2nd rounder.
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by Flight2BOSTON on Jul 28, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
They would want him to save money off the cap
Because they would have to give up 5 mil+ in salary to take his retiring contract
by Warrior Spirit on Jul 29, 2010 12:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Numbers don’t work, would have to be 2 player for sheed
by Warrior Spirit on Jul 29, 2010 12:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Definitely worth a first round pick
Rudy was a better than average player even when hurt last year, and was a quite good player his rookie year.
The chances of getting a player of this quality in the bottom of the first round is certainly not 50-50. It might be 20-80.
Size
a 6’ 6" guard and worried about him getting backed down in the post. When was the last time the Celts had a guard that tall?
But 185 is skinny for a 6-6 guy.
Even older guards like Billups can bully Rudy around.
by getthat18now on Jul 29, 2010 7:18 AM EDT up reply actions
repeat do not give up bradley he a mix of monta ellis and a.i. with on ball d
by thuggedoutinGreen on Jul 28, 2010 9:13 PM EDT reply actions
Trade Restrictions
I’m throwing all of this out for those who are in a panic over losing Bradley
Unless the infromation I gathered is incorrect, Bradley, Erden, Robinson, Daniels, O’Neal, Allen and Pierce can not be traded until 12/15 due to something called a trade restriction. Therefore the only tradeable pieces we have right now are Wallace, Gaffney, Lafayette, Davis, Perkins, KG and Rondo, and I don’t believe Perk, Rondo or KG are going anywhere. Sing and trades with Scalabrine, Finley and probably Harangody are still possible I believe. If my info is incorrect, somebody please feel free to correct me. Thanks!
Or not
I thought Bradley had already signed his contract. If not then he would be available in a trade also. Sorry.
by King Coebra on Jul 28, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Bradley
Can be traded 8/1. Erden can be traded 8/5.
by King Coebra on Jul 28, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Under no circumstances can a team sign and then trade another team's free agent.
But there is a rule that allows teams to re-sign their own free agents for trading purposes, called the sign-and-trade rule. Under the sign-and-trade rule, the player is re-signed and immediately traded to another team. This is done by adding a clause to the contract which stipulates that the contract is invalid if the player’s rights are not traded to the specific team within 48 hours.
by GetYourSoxOn on Jul 28, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q79
by GetYourSoxOn on Jul 28, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
I was reading that. I just don’t know if he has already been signed or not. If he has already been signed then I don’t think we can trade him until 12/15. If he has not been signed then he can obviously be moved in a sign and trade.
by King Coebra on Jul 28, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Also
Just noticed in topic #83 of that same link that states drafted players can be traded after 30 days instead of the 90 day or 12/15 (whichever is later rule) that seems to apply to everybody else.
Sorry for confusing everybody. Too many rules in the CBA that I haven’t yet taken the time to read.
by King Coebra on Jul 28, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't worry about it
Sometimes its good to go through the exercise.
by GetYourSoxOn on Jul 28, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Generally, a player cannot be traded until three months after signing a contract or December 15th of that season, whichever is later.
This does not apply to draft picks, who can be traded 30 days after signing their contract. In addition, if the player is playing under a one-year contract and will have Larry Bird or Early Bird rights at the end of the contract, he can’t be traded without his consent. If consent is granted and the player is traded, then he loses his Larry Bird or Early Bird rights, and enters free agency as a Non-Bird free agent. For example, Seattle signed Vladimir Radmanovic to a one-year qualifying offer on September 21, 2005. Therefore, Radmanovic could not be traded at all until December 21, 2005. After December 21, 2005, he could only be traded if he consented to the trade (he did consent and was traded to the Clippers). He became a Non-Bird free agent with the Clippers in the summer of 2006 (and signed instead with the Lakers).
For sign-and-trade transactions, the initial trade which completes the transaction is obviously allowed, even though it occurs right after the player is signed. What’s not clear is whether the player’s new team can subsequently trade him prior to three months or December 15. While a literal reading of the CBA might suggest that such players cannot be subsequently traded, the league actually considers this situation to be undefined, and won’t resolve the matter until a team actually tries to make such a trade.
by GetYourSoxOn on Jul 28, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
if the player is playing under a one-year contract and will have Larry Bird or Early Bird rights at the end of the contract, he can’t be traded without his consent. If consent is granted and the player is traded, then he loses his Larry Bird or Early Bird rights, and enters free agency as a Non-Bird free agent. For example
Nate Robinson.
That explains his exact situation upon leaving the Knicks
by GetYourSoxOn on Jul 28, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
no doubt
sure wish this site gave you a few minutes to be able to review your post and make corrections. It would make it infinitely more readable without all the corrections that people make due to misspellings, etc.
by King Coebra on Jul 29, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
im so sure about getting him here
poor ballhandling skills, basically only a shooter, terrible defense and not a tough player overall…
by friedgreentomatoes on Jul 28, 2010 10:53 PM EDT reply actions
we can trade bradley the day after
is it a sign?
A bad back is a bad back
Most of the hype surrounding Rudy focuses on his 2008 season. After his injury his level of play has gone down. Portland didn’t play him as much after he returned. I believe they know he’s still hurting. I doubt he’s healthy.
I don’t feel Danny should pay too much for him. Maybe one or two second rounders and some cash at the most. He’s still a high risk player.
make it happen
We’ve watched Rudy play since he first came to Portland. This guy’s constant motion on offense, playing the passing lanes on defense, quick hands, eye for the open man, and shooting skills reminds me alot of HONDO. Sure he slowed down a bit after getting blind-sided by Ariza, he ended up getting back surgery to fix pinched nerves. He’s back, and just wasting away on Portland’s bench, as they try to figure out how to mess this team up again. I think someone is still kicking themselves in the A$$ for not picking Durant. (Shades of the ghost of the infamous “Sam Bowie” pick). Rudy saved Portland’s butts many times, with a shot, an assist, a steal, whatever it took. Sure, he may not be as quick as a slow RONDO, but he still has alot more to offer than some of the names the C’s have thrown around. Make it happen Danny.
i think he's worth a 1st round pick.
since it’s the only thing worthy to give portland and sheed’s contract (shee coming back to portland for final year could be awesome though.) Rudy is young anyway, a year without a 1st round pick on what i see could be (again, “what i see”. So this is just my opinion.) a very weak draft could be fine for Boston.
Da Boy (as we call him in back in the Philippines) is worth it. He’s an offensive mega threat and I believe once he sets foot in Beantown he’ll learn to adjust to the defensive mind set of the Celtics. That locker room can make him a better defender the time he steps in. It will be a big loss if the Celtics’ will miss this chance.
Do it now DA. Do whatever is necessary to acquire Da Boy.
Bradley + 1st round for Fernandez.
Avery could be a good if not great baller in years to come. But the WIN NOW mentality works here and they have to get Fernandez to boost up the 2nd unit.
Besides, do we really think Avery will get playing time this season? I don’t hate Avery, I think he’s great and has that defender mentality already. But Da Boy will give the C’s more weapons of the bench. SOmething Bradley can’t do since he’ll be sitting in that bench every game at least.
not really..
ha ha, im looking for an edit button since i thought giving avery would be much better than giving sheeds contract. since there is no edit option (or i can’t find it) i just said “what the heck…”
He is Spainish
I say pick you Rudy. He is from Spain and Spain is now red hot in the sports world. They won the World Cup and the European champ in soccer. Nadal is the French Open and Wimbledon tennis champ, Contador won the Tour de France, Alonso finished 1st in the Germany Grand Prix (though they cheated), and Spain is the the defending World Basketball Champ. Maybe some Spainish Cooking can spice up the Celtics even more to go for banner 18.
Nice post. I´m spanish and we are really proud of our sportmen/sportwomen. We really love sports (by the way, you forgot that we are the defending European champs in basketball too. But it´s hard to keep the tab on everything, even for us)….. BUT “Fernando Alonso cheated” ??? Alonso was faster than Massa, who is a crappy pilot and who is jealous of Fernando. If Alonso cheated (probably true, that´s why some of us are not very keen on motor sports), Lewis Hamilton has been cheating since he became a F1 pilot. Other than that, thanks for your post and GO CELTS !!!!
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