Shaq Brings a Bow Tie, Harangody Signs
Today was a great summer off season day. The biggest story was Shaq's press conference, which was pretty cool. He brought Doc Rivers up to the podium with him, and predictably said all the right things (as he has been doing since he officially signed). Some quick quotes:
*Note: all quotes transcribed from YouTube video linked at end of article
Shaq, when asked if he still has a hunger for the game:
Do I have the same hunger? Yes. If I didn't, I wouldn't be here. I don't like wasting peoples' time, I don't like wasting my time. I've missed over 200 games in my career so that means I owe myself and I owe everybody two to three years left.
On Winning:
I think Doc will see and the people will see that I still have hunger and still can play and still trying to win. At the end of the day when I close my book its all about winning, nothing else.
When asked (I think, it is a little hard to hear on the video) about how Boston matches up with LeBron & Miami:
I don't say anything to that. Its going to be a long season, we know what we have to do, and we know we have a lot of pieces. We match up pretty good with anybody. You know, we have four great big men, and when 'Big Perk' comes back there's not going to be too many people that can deal with our front line...
Last year you know everybody was talking about other teams nobody ever really mentioned Boston; I think that's the way we like it around here.
Click on the jump to see Shaq's opinion on his new nickname, why he picked #36, a bunch of other stuff, and the actual youtube vids
Shaq, on his new nickname:
So far I like 'The Big Shamrock', but I might go 'The Big Green Mile' too.
Why he picked #36:
Actually it was kind of a..simple way I figured it out. I've always been in the 30's and this is the sixth team I've been with. 36.
On famous big men:
One of the first names I heard growing up in northern New Jersey, my father, took me to the park. He's like 'You gotta be a shot blocker like..Bill Russell, you gotta be dominant like Wilt Chamberlain, you gotta be a scorer like Kareem Abdul Jabbar. This is when I was like five, six, years old my father used to scream these names at me. I'm lookin' at him like 'who the (heck) are those people?'
But, you know, as I got older, and understood the game, and I learned the history of the game, its rich in tradition. You know, Mister Russell was one of the first legends to reach out to me and have a certain conversation that let me know what I needed to do to get to that next level. And um, I always wanted to thank the great Mister Russell. The greatest big man ever.
On his perceived (from the Cavs series) friction with Kendrick Perkins:
You know Perkins is a very tough defender, probably one of the best big man defenders in the league. And, it was only on the court battles slash marketing. You know, he's a guy who's not going to back down, I'm a guy who's not going to back down, and if anything I think it was good for TV. But now, being on the same team, I will give him all the knowledge I have accumulated over the past 18 years. Have we had battles? Of course we have. Have we had good battles, and bad battles? Yes we have. But that's all over now, because we're teammates.
Doc on the Celtics' trend of bringing in older, successful, experienced players, and how the chemistry will work:
If you look at the history of the Celtics, the have a history of bringing in..legends who are at the end of their career but still have enough to give to help teams win. Bill Walton comes to mind, he's the first on my list.
Its is a forumla that has worked and it is a formula that I hope continues to work...
The bottom line is, with any of these team, our team, around the league, when you get a collection of individuals you gotta make them into a team. And every time you add a new piece you almost have to restart and try to get your team back together. That's what we're going to have to do. We don't have a lot of time to do that.
Shaq again, on why/how he joined the Celtics:
Honesty. You know I've been around the league for a long time. Met a lot of shysters. We (O'Neal and Rivers) had a conversation, (he) said 'Shaq, we want you, we'd like to have you here, but we don't have a whole lot to give.' And I said 'Doc I'm not really concerned with all that. I'm just concerned with winning and being with a bunch of guys who like to play.'
O'Neal was also sure to thank Kevin Garnett for showing support and flying back for the press conference from China.
Part one of the press conference: Link
Part two of the press conference: Link
Also, in other news, Luke Harangody signs with the team:
Via Chris Forsberg, ESPN:
On the same day the Celtics introduced O'Neal to the Boston media, Harangody, the Celtics' second-round draft choice (52nd overall) this year, quietly inked a guaranteed two-year deal valued at $1.3 million.
"Seeing Shaq today, I was kinda in awe a little bit -- starstruck -- but at the same time, I gotta come in the gym everyday," said Harangody. "We’re teammates now. There’s future Hall of Fame players, but you still gotta come in and give the same effort, no matter who’s in on the floor."
One last note, if you click on the link to part 2 of the Shaq presser, a funny thing happens around 9 mins and 50 seconds. The organizer of the press conference tells everyone that Luke Harangody will be available for questions once Shaq gets off the stage, and Shaq clearly leans over and asks Doc Rivers: "Who?"
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We still need a tough on ball defender but...
I’m all in. I have to respect Danny and the owners for working very well with very little leg room. The players and management have come together. The upcoming season is our last chance with this group and that’s cool. Just keep playing the tape of Phil Jackson saying the C’s give up in the fourth quarter, stay healthy, share the ball, don’t say anything stupid to the press and watch each others’ back.
by thereallargejames on Aug 10, 2010 2:38 PM EDT reply actions
My fav part of it was when he addressed the Perk beef..
“But now, being on the same team, I will give him all the knowledge I have accumulated over the past 18 years. Have we had battles? Of course we have. Have we had good battles, and bad battles? Yes we have. But that’s all over now, because we’re teammates.”
Here is my favorite quote:
Honesty. You know I’ve been around the league for a long time. Met a lot of shysters. We (O’Neal and Rivers) had a conversation, (he) said ‘Shaq, we want you, we’d like to have you here, but we don’t have a whole lot to give.’ And I said ‘Doc I’m not really concerned with all that. I’m just concerned with winning and being with a bunch of guys who like to play.’
The reason why is because I like to believe the Celtics are upfront and have that kind of rep around the league. The other reason why is because every time we get a big time FA like Shaq or JO or Sam Cassell to come to play for the C’s, and they say things like “I came because they are honest and they are serious about winning”…it makes it that much more probable that we will have a less painful rebuilding process this time around. If we can get a league-wide perception that players WANT to come here, they’ll start coming here.
Reporter: About a year ago I asked about the Celtics-Lakers thing and you said you'd really only seen it on TV. Now you've been through it, can you talk about playing the Boston Celtics for the NBA championship?
Kobe: It Sucks.
by Tom Bellinger on Aug 10, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Man, I am as giddy as a school girl!
(Not that there is anything wrong with that … right?)
No matter how it all turns out – this is going to be one hell of an interesting season!!!
Only one move left to make: Sheed’s contract.
That may not happen for a while, so as it stands this is probably the roster for awhile:
Rondo / Nate
Ray / Wafer
Pierce / Daniels
KG / BBD
JO / Shaq
Deep Bench: Bradley, Luke, Erden,
Injured: Perk
Retired: Sheed
That’s our 15 man roster at this point. That looks pretty solid, especially once Perk comes back.
5 M: You don't think Bradley/Hargodly
will get any meaningful minutes? And if Perk appears to be healing properly, perhaps BBD is a most likely tradee? My logic is: he is a free agent after this year and always seems to be going for the big buck and starting role – and I can’t blame him for that. But if we are gonna lose him anyway, let’s get something for him.
Your BBD logic isn’t bad, but KG is on his way out, and BBD is arguably our most important guy off the bench walking into the next season (as KG’s health has been the most inconsistent these past 2 years). Glen Davis should be getting first crack at the starting 4 spot if/when KG takes some games off, and when KG is retiring in a couple of years, Davis should be poised to look seriously at the starting 4 slot.
Reporter: About a year ago I asked about the Celtics-Lakers thing and you said you'd really only seen it on TV. Now you've been through it, can you talk about playing the Boston Celtics for the NBA championship?
Kobe: It Sucks.
by Tom Bellinger on Aug 10, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
BBD...
has earned to stay in Boston.
"I've got a theory that if you give 100% all of the time, somehow things will work out in the end."
--- Larry Bird
by Army_of_One_Nation(Celtic's Nation) on Aug 10, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think so
I agree with Dipper, in fact, I have often predicted that he will be traded this off season or by the trade dealine. BBD is a FA and he’s looking for a big payday. I can’t see Danny giving him a big payday if he plans to have Cap Space in 2012. Nor do I see BBD as a starter on a championship contender. He’s a good role player, bringing energy and going all out in 15-20 mins per game. But he’s still too height challenged and doesn’t make up for it with athleticism or leaping ability. Also, I see him playing more minutes early in the season, but once Perk gets back I think he might be the odd man out – Perk/KG and Shaq/JO are the pairings I see. So if Perk comes back in Jan, I see BBD traded Jan/Feb time frame.
As for his earning the right to stay, I’d say BBD is the first guy who would leave for more money. In fact, he made that statement 2 years ago when he was a free agent, that he was looking for the best payday. He hoped it would be Boston, but he would go where the money was. I’m sure that hasn’t changed. He was unhappy about being selected in the 2nd round rather than the first, and not getting the guaranteed money and contract.
Further, I think, Harangody basically duplicates BBD . Yes, they have different skills sets but they both a primarily undersized PFs – BBD more inside oriented and Harangody more outside – both are adequate rebounders and both bring energy. And even though Harangody is a rookie, I think he can be a factor this year. And this comes from someone who wasn’t a fan of his selection. However, Summer League opened my eyes. Yes, I know, Summer League usually doesn’t mean much. But his play was outstanding, which is rare for a non-guard or non-wing player who doesn’t have a great handle and can’t create his won shots.
If Danny does trade BBD, the question is how and for what. I suggest using him with Sheed’s contract and trying to find a star or potential star to fit with Rondo. I would suggest that it be some type of swing man who can rest Ray and PP over the next 2 years and then maybe take over for Ray when his contract ends. Of course, that type trade might eliminate cap space in 2012 so it won’t be an easy decision for Danny, that’s why he makes the big bucks.
I didn't say that I don't think Bradley or Harangody will get any meaningful minutes.
I just have them listed as deep bench – which is what they are, along with Semih.
They will almost certainly get some minutes. I especially think that Harangody’s offensive game is pretty mature and I think Doc will have a lot of confidence in putting him on the floor.
But they are still deep bench at the moment so don’t expect a lot of minutes except in garbage time for now. We’ll see how they evolve as the season progresses.
All three have a lot of upside, but they are rookies, and this a veteran, championship-quality team on a mission. Their most important job is to shut up, work hard, watch and learn. And man, if you are a rookie who wants to learn from the best – these guys are in an awesome situation. They get to spend the year learning behind FOUR absolute sure-fire-first-ballot Hall-of-Famers (Ray, PP, KG & Shaq), a six-time All-Star in JO, and two young champion superstuds in Perk & Rondo … I mean, like – wow. Those three kids will have to pick their jaws up off the floor when they start that first scrimmage at training camp.
As for BBD – unless we secured a PF in return I just don’t see us trading him.
Except for Daniels and Wafer
Hard to view them as “solid” – not that the Laker counterparts the past couple of years (Vujacic/Walton) were.
by nba is the worst on Aug 10, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
reality check
i don’t see no carmelo anthony to spell allen or pierce….. daniels is not a good shooter——good luck—-rudy f is needed
With Nate and Wafer on the floor, Daniels doesn't need to be a shooter.
With two legitimate 3PT shooters on the floor at the 1 & 2, that keeps the paint relatively unclogged for Shaq, BBD & Daniels, who all work in and out of the paint.
And if we do need to bring in a 3rd Shooter (or someone more physical at the 3), Doc will have Harangody as a changeup option.
I’m not going to disagree that getting Rudy would be a huge boost. But I would disagree that he is needed. Yes, I would like him. But this lineup is solid without him.
I agree.
It might be nice to have Rudy, but yes, he’s not needed… and certainly not worth over-paying for – especially with draft picks.
Besides, people only seem to think about his potential offense, without worrying enough about his possible defensive deficiencies.
or worrying about him playing out the year and going to spain.
Reporter: About a year ago I asked about the Celtics-Lakers thing and you said you'd really only seen it on TV. Now you've been through it, can you talk about playing the Boston Celtics for the NBA championship?
Kobe: It Sucks.
by Tom Bellinger on Aug 10, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
a conditioning coach and KG's words.
would make ’Gody our back up SF. He wont be as fast. But he has tenacity, defensive mindset along with the will to grab the boards and his outside shooting.
Just need someone to make him more mobile and KG saying “We need you to do this. In order for us to get there, you gotta have to embrace this role and do it with everything you’ve got.” and that’s the back up wing.
Hope so.
Never thought about Perl learning from a true Center
And one of the greats in the game, maybe we see some offensive progress over the next two years from Perk. Hopefully, he will learn not to travel.
perk picks up some post moves would be awesome
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Aug 10, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
best part: the ms. lebron comment after the interview
said with complete seriousness. i love it!
I think he said “mister” LeBron. I can see why you would disagree though. It’s pretty close.
Reporter: About a year ago I asked about the Celtics-Lakers thing and you said you'd really only seen it on TV. Now you've been through it, can you talk about playing the Boston Celtics for the NBA championship?
Kobe: It Sucks.
by Tom Bellinger on Aug 10, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
ah, gotcha
it sure sounded like miss, though
by guy incognito on Aug 10, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I dontknow
Sounds like a definitive miss to me, I heard no ter.
Lol
by Warrior Spirit on Aug 11, 2010 3:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Let's get it on!
2 1/2 months! Get ready for some pain, Kobe! You haven’t won anything yet, Heat! And you’re gonna have no room to work, Superman!
2010-11 Celtics! Reloaded and pissed off!
Pain
Yeah, I gotta say I like our chances if we stay healthy and danny converts sheed into a 2-3 defender taller than 6-5
What I noticed..
Is the way he talked, especially about the starters, seemed to imply he would be playing with them a lot. I guess he thinks he’s most likely starting, and I’d rather have him start and use Jermaines versatile game off the bench. With kevin and Jermaine in the starting lineup, we really don’t have that much post presence or size. Just a lot of jump shooting. That’s why I’d rather have shaq play with kg for the inside out game and Kevin will help cover up shaqs lackluster pick and roll defense.
the few, the proud, the boston celtics
by bleedgreen34 on Aug 10, 2010 3:29 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Who is he going to talk about? Its not like Shelden or Sheed are coming back. He didn’t even know who Luke Harangody IS!
Reporter: About a year ago I asked about the Celtics-Lakers thing and you said you'd really only seen it on TV. Now you've been through it, can you talk about playing the Boston Celtics for the NBA championship?
Kobe: It Sucks.
by Tom Bellinger on Aug 10, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
nate robinson gave him a stuffed sandwhich.. quis has been around for a while.. but i agree with what you said. i probably doesnt know anyones game thats on the bench. my bad.
the few, the proud, the boston celtics
by bleedgreen34 on Aug 10, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I think when he was asking about coming off the bench he replied “If that’s what it takes. I just want to win.”…that meant a lot.
Honestly there is no way that JO will start over Shaq to open the season. No chance. But once Perkins is back, Shaq is sitting, I think he understands that.
Reporter: About a year ago I asked about the Celtics-Lakers thing and you said you'd really only seen it on TV. Now you've been through it, can you talk about playing the Boston Celtics for the NBA championship?
Kobe: It Sucks.
by Tom Bellinger on Aug 10, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
At least I hope he understands that.
Reporter: About a year ago I asked about the Celtics-Lakers thing and you said you'd really only seen it on TV. Now you've been through it, can you talk about playing the Boston Celtics for the NBA championship?
Kobe: It Sucks.
by Tom Bellinger on Aug 10, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I disagree. JO will start.
The way Doc prefers to pace his minutes, starters start and finish.
JO will be his preference to start because of defense – JO is a much better switch defender and that is critical part of our team defense.
JO will be his preference to finish games because he is a far superior free throw shooter.
Shaq is a better post scorer (though JO isn’t bad) – and that is actually something that our second team could greatly benefit from. Shaq fits in very well with the mix of players we’ll have on the second unit. His defensive shortcomings on the pick & roll should be covered up by the fact that Nate is not a switch defender and has to fight through screens anyway – plus second team PGs & Bigs will be easier for Shaq to handle on defense and brutalize on offense.
I won’t be surprised to see Shaq start on occasion, given the right matchup. But I think most of the time it will be Jermaine starting. And definitely Jermaine will be expected to finish, given the free throws.
I think you’re completely ignoring the fact that Jermaine O’Neal is Jermaine O’Neal and Shaquille O’Neal is Shaquille O’Neal.
Even if Shaq is going to play 20 mins or less a game, Jermaine won’t start. They’re both new to the team, and Shaq is a first ballot HOF’er. Until Perk comes back, Shaq will start. JO will probably play more minutes…he might even play better. But Shaq came in understanding that Perkins was the starter. He also came in understanding that Perkins wasn’t going to play until Feb, and wasn’t going to be “caught up” until probably April. Shaq is starting, I guarantee.
Reporter: About a year ago I asked about the Celtics-Lakers thing and you said you'd really only seen it on TV. Now you've been through it, can you talk about playing the Boston Celtics for the NBA championship?
Kobe: It Sucks.
by Tom Bellinger on Aug 10, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Your post sound cop-out ish
You say JO might play more minutes. You even go so far to say that he might play better. Shaq, on the other hand, has said he’d be ok with coming off the bench, yet you GUARANTEE he’ll start? I believe JVG’s guarantee for the Heat more than yours.
I’d agree with if you just said it’s not set in stone, but if I had to lay a guarantee, I’d rather lay it on JO.
How do you get cop-outish? Shaq will start out of deference, it won’t be an ability call. Perkins SHOULD start over Shaq, but JO won’t…and I don’t think it will matter.
Reporter: About a year ago I asked about the Celtics-Lakers thing and you said you'd really only seen it on TV. Now you've been through it, can you talk about playing the Boston Celtics for the NBA championship?
Kobe: It Sucks.
by Tom Bellinger on Aug 10, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree that Jermaine will start
because Doc likes to run two units, the starters and the green team (second unit).
Doc usually had either Pierce or Ray out with four other bench guys, in order to add a steadying veteran player to the mix. With this team, Shaq can be that guy.
Now there is a complete and separate set of five players for both units and no need for one of the starters to sit in with the subs:
Rondo, Ray, Pierce, KG, Jermaine
Nate, Wafer, Daniels, Davis, Shaq
by GetYourSoxOn on Aug 10, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly. That's been Doc's dream all these last three years.
He’s been trying to deploy a 2nd unit that DOESN’T require Ray or Paul to stay out there. He almost had that to start last year, but Daniels, whom he originally had running the floor for the second team in the fall, got hurt.
This year, not only should he have Daniels, but he’ll have BBD & Nate as veterans who know the way he wants to run things (after Nate gets a full camp) and Shaq as a steadying, dependable veteran presence period.
IP...first off....excellent job on covering this....The Big Hat Tip
Secondly…Shaq is so smooth and likeable…..I am starting to let down my guard and say….OK Welcome…..you big oaf
Is it Soup Yet?
Po, first off...thank you.
Secondly, I will make a bet that by the end of December Shaq will be the most liked Celtic on the team. People will love Pierce, Rondo, Garnett..more than Shaq, but they’ll LIKE Shaq the best. He’s just impossible to dislike. When he does retire, it’ll be like when Carson left late night. People will try to take his place, but they’ll fail.
Reporter: About a year ago I asked about the Celtics-Lakers thing and you said you'd really only seen it on TV. Now you've been through it, can you talk about playing the Boston Celtics for the NBA championship?
Kobe: It Sucks.
by Tom Bellinger on Aug 10, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope the Fakers find a way to dislike him
and I hopeShaq gives them plenty more reasons to dislike him before he’s done.
by Thruthelookingglass on Aug 10, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
The Big Minimum...
I never would have believed it. The steal of the offseason in terms of value vs price
by nba is the worst on Aug 10, 2010 5:06 PM EDT reply actions
Reminded me
Of Bernie Mac in Mr 3000 when Big Horse Berelli did the tribute to him.
by Finkelskyhook on Aug 10, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish the Celtics, Lakers and Heat could play in a tournament like- right now.
by Ryan Gomes Phone Home on Aug 10, 2010 5:31 PM EDT reply actions
can't wait till the guys get back together for training camp
really wish I had the $$ to get season tickets, outside of the games, season ticket holders can go to Waltham to watch live practices on the days they set that up, I want to see everything the club does.
Re the Big Minimum
Reluctantly ( you cant imagine how much so!) conceding to be, well, kind of, oh, heck, impressed that the Big Sham signed for vet min and appears willing do the role player gig. If he goes the Big Green Mile with this, will be impressed indeed.
Funny, Tom!
I was impressed by him the last 2 years as far as his conditionin g and effort went.
If he’s ready to be the Big Sub, it will pay dividends for the Celtics!
by nba is the worst on Aug 10, 2010 7:28 PM EDT reply actions
Play one more time and be a champ before retiring Sheed.
I know he can help the C’s get their 18th banner. I hope he would play one more season for the C’s, they have a really good chance this year and to think he’s quite young to retire, he have all the time for that when the right time comes. Why not play another season and retired as champ. That would be a “graceful exit” Sheed.
i thought the funniest part of the inroduction was towards the end.. the pa told the media that luke harangody is in the building ans has signed his contract today. and he’ll be available for questions.. shaq turns to doc not realizing that the camera or mic’s were on him still and asks who luke was and what position he played!
help me out
has doc explictedly named the starting C yet? or are we waiting to see who is going to play into the starting role during training camp and pre?
Believe in 18.
I think Shaq is gonna be our starting center. He partners better with KG than JO does. KG can supply the lack of movement of Shaquille in defense and he can take benefits (with his outside shoot) from the double teams the old Shaq induce.
by Juan José Nieto on Aug 11, 2010 3:21 AM EDT reply actions
Funniest Comment
During the press conference there were questions about how Shaq and Perk would get along and it was dealt with. After the press conference Doc was interviewed by Gary Tanquay and Tanquay asked Doc about this. Doc said something to the effect that some players don’t like each other when they are competing, but become good teammates. When Tanquay asked Doc who he didn’t like Doc replied: “Danny”. He said he hated Danny Ainge when they played against each other, but now they are best friends. The way Doc said it just gave me a good laugh. That ’s one of the things about the Celtics that I like. The outright honesty which was brought up by Shaq when he and Doc discussed his coming to Boston.
"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
"Criminally Negligent Officiating"--Tommy Heinsohn

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