One More Piece?
by Jeff Clark on Aug 11, 2010 5:58 AM EDT
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PrintWith Wallace waived (still hoping to hear about the details around that) and Harangody signed, the heavy lifting is done for the offseason but the Celtics still have one roster spot left. With only Von Wafer and Marquis Daniels backing up Ray Allen and Paul Pierce, it sounds like Danny and Doc would like one more shooter off the bench.
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"One more piece is possible," Ainge said. "I like the pieces we have at this stage and would be happy going into training camp with this team. It is possible though we could add another player, most likely for the veteran’s minimum. Possibly a trade, but the most likely scenario is for the veteran’s minimum."
"I've been saying that for two years. Shooting is just a commodity and we would like one more," Rivers said. "It's going to be tough to get, honestly."
As far as I'm concerned, there are a few options left to the Celtics.
Best case scenario: Trade for Rudy Fernandez - the talks with the Blazers appear to have been stalled and Portland isn't getting what they want from the Bulls or Knicks either. Danny successfully waited for Shaq's price to drop and he may be doing the same here with the Blazers. Smart move in my opinion. The question is, at what cost? They are likely looking for (at minimum) a 1st round pick. He's probably worth that, but is he worth more than that?
Next best plan: Sign Delonte West (after a through evaluation of course). He's not tall enough to guard 3's but he can shoot ...the ball that is.
Less than ideal backup plan: Sign Larry Hughes. I know, I know, his shot selection is terrible and he's overrated as a defender, but you could do worse from the 3rd wing off the bench.
Punt till later plan: As Ainge mentioned, the team could just go with what they've got and see how the regular season plays out. In fact, they could carry Tony Gaffney on the roster as insurance and on a partially guaranteed contract. If Von and Quisey bounce back with good years this year, great. If not, you can still try to go out and grab someone off the scrap heap or trade for someone. I just don't think that they could get someone as good as Delonte in this scenario.
So what would you do with the last roster spot?
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Rudy
Hi from Spain!
I honestly think Rudy is the best option so far, he’s really talented, can shoot and plays with great energy and of course, he’s 25.
But if the C’s want him, they have to do it before the World Championship, because his value will rise up after, and a first round is pretty cheap i think.
I´m with you. I think Rudy is gonna play a great World Championship and his value is increasing. So the best move woulde be trade a first round pick now! Good day from Salamanca, Spain
by Juan José Nieto on Aug 11, 2010 6:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Too small.
He’s too small to play the 3, doesn’t have the bulk for it. Granted Wafer may be able to play some time there since he’s got 30 pounds on Rudy, but still, you haven’t really solved your defensive depth problems at the wind if you sign Rudy.
Get Rudy
Rudy’s stock is down b/c he has not played. He is featured in Spain so his price should go up. They should give a 1st round & 2nd round pick. Most picks don’t work out at all or produce only modest results…. JR Giddens, Lester, Bill…. And it takes TIME to develop an nba game (to learn what works & what doesn’t, to get some calls from refs etc) .
True, Rudy lacks size, but he is quick & intelligent & a good shooter. Our defense is a help defense so he should have lots of help there in the lane with our biggie bigs lurking.
If we do as well as we all hope then it will be a late first round pick. Doc is not the greatest at developing the bench, rooks. Given the choice, Doc will always overplay vets as opposed to giving the rooks more time to develop on the court. We need to be super aggressive now.
Remember, much to Danny’s credit, he was not satisfied with just KG & Ray. He very actively pursued Posey which turned out to be BRILLIANT!
I'm so sick of hearing about Delonte West.
Don’t want his crazy butt on this team.
RUDY FERNANDEZ!!!
Q: Rodney Carney is Free Agent???
Free agents that would be better fits than Hughes:
Jarvis Hayes or Bobby Simmons are decent end-of-the-bench players. I’d prefer Rodney Carney, Stephen Graham, Trenton Hassell, Ime Udoka, or Jerry Stackhouse over Hughes, as well.
Basically, I hate Hughes. He can’t shoot, he’s got a bad attitude, and he’s always injured. He brings the bad aspects of Tony Allen’s game, but not the defense.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
Trenton Hassell would be an excellent replacement for Tony Allen
plus he’s played with KG. However, it seems like a shooter that waht the C’s brass want. I don’t agree with that.
I'm Open
I don’t have an issue with any of the people being bandied about. Whether it’s Roy H’s suggestions,or Rudy, Gaffney, West or someone else. This guy is probably going to be an insurance policy, most of the guys on RHs list are defenders except, Hayes, Stack and Carney, as is Gaffney and it’s defense that is our forte so those all make sense. The other guys including West can shoot which was a weak spot last season. So both options may sense . My suggestions are Hayes because of his size and shooting, Gaffney because of his D or leave the spot open for roster flexibility later.
I really like Rudy, he is a good shooter and I got the celtics pride.
I think he can steeel minutes to Ray and become after two years one good player.
If c’s trades him for a first roundi think its a good business.
Anyway, I think that another good name for boston, in a future view too, is Dragic of suns…I don’t think he is tradable, but as all sloven palyer he got charism.
We're not getting Rudy
Read that quote from Danny: Most likely a vet min signing. He’s not optimistic about a trade.
Hughes sucks.
Delonte not coming back.
Rudy!!! Rudy!!!
If they want to win and have a future, Danny should trade for Rudy Fernandez.
I like Rudy
but I wouldn’t trade a first rounder for him. I think we really need more than Daniels and Wafer backing up at the two and three. We need another three. Delonte’s not it.
First Rd Pick OK
I wouldn’t have a problem giving up a 1st Rd pick for Rudy, but I would give up much more – Per Tradecheck Gaffhey and Lafayette salaries work. So I could live with that deal (including 1st rd pick). Rudy has a very reasonable salary, has some skills and his contract end in 2012 so if he doesn’t pan out we can dump him for the cap space. But it also gives us 2 years to see if he fits. That’s kind of a win-win deal. If he does fit his tender is only about $3M which it probably less than he can command if he develops into a player and we’d have his Bird Rights so we’d be on the hook for $3M but his salary could be much higher and we’d be able to match or exceed it to resign him. That’s a good scenario for us.
Do we really need our first round pick for next year? If we used it to add Rudy, we will have a pretty young team anyway going into the future. BBD, Rond, Wafer, Bradley, Harongody, Perk, Rudy, Nate are all young guys. Makes sense to give up the pick for an established player who is exactly what Danny is looking for. Another player who can shoot and create their own offense. Size is not the key since we now have plenty of big bodies.
remember how THIS team was build?
…. with a lot of young talent (not all of which panned out, granted), but with a lot of smart draft picks that were able to net us Ray and KG. If we don’t have that three-pick draft that got us Big Al and Delonte (and TA), we might not have been able to make either of those trades.
Outstanding point.
That is exactly why Danny protects his draft picks. His business model is draft well, build talent, package them in big trades. This is why he never drafts for need, and grabs the best player available at every chance. He’s had a pretty good eye for that in both 1st (Jefferson, Rondo), and second round picks (Gomes, Davis.)
We are in a win now mode
And talent is not getting built here, it rots on the bench of a championship calibre team.
Makes no sense to not give up a pick for literally a player that could put us over the top now while this team still has a chance.
by Warrior Spirit on Aug 11, 2010 1:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
There's always a balance....
Danny’s walking a tight line between “win now” and “don’t fuck up the team for Rondo’s prime.” There’s a reason we didn’t pursue any free agents (or trades) that would require more than a two-year salary commitment. Same is true for draft picks; we’ve got the pieces in place to make a deep run, if we can do that and still keep bringing in young talent every year, maybe we won’t have to go through another twenty-year drought.
A 25 year old starting quality shooting guard with game at almost league minimum prices is screwing up the rondo era?
Ah I don’t see the problem here only solutions both now and future. Trading perk would mortgage the future with rondo, he would probably leave
by Warrior Spirit on Aug 11, 2010 4:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Most likely for the next 2 years rooks will be traded away or left to rot in Maine or on the bench unless doc will change his minute priorities and trust of rooks during regular season play.
We aren’t building rookies here, so could likely fall flat on our face in 2 years withou some quality FA signings and possible returns for some of our current cast builing a bench with some of our current pieces.
by Warrior Spirit on Aug 11, 2010 4:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Define Trust
To Warrior Spirit – Define trust? Is this where Doc gives them playing time just because they are young with potential. Or should they have to earn it??? That means practice, film sessions and all the other things that go into being a PRO.
It seems people on this board continually criticize Doc for not playing rookies. I guess we should be more like Minn, GS, LA Clips, Mem who are always in a 5 year rebuilding program and winning 20+ games per year. Personally, I trust Doc and Danny to do the right thing. Play the guys who earned the PT and win games and try to win championships. Tell me the last time a rookie, really did anything in the NBA his rookie season. You’d probably have to go back to Bird, Magic, The Dream, and maybe Tim Duncan (but that’s misleading because the year before the Admiral was out most or all of the year).
Win now*.
There’s an asterisk on that because their in win-now mode, except that they wont mortgage their future in 2012 for it.
Danny believes the team, as it is, is ready to compete for the title. And he has solid reasons to believe that, their better than last year right now. People talk about losing Tony Allen like he was the answer to back up Paul. Um, Tony Allen was 6’4, and really wasn’t a reliable back up to Pierce at all. Daniels is a far more complete player, and I firmly believe will bounce back to form this year and be every bit the back up SF you need for 15-20 minutes a game.
And Rudy was not putting us over the top. It adds a more proven scorer to the second unit (Note: Not saying a better one, Wafer has just as much ability, there’s just more question marks on him) so why give a pick for a guy who only just MIGHT be better than what you already have (Wafer) and still doesn’t solve your depth problem at SF? Now THAT makes no sense.
I too believe Daniels will be a solid backup SF.
And frankly, I’m a bit surprised there’s so much fuss about that slot as a “hole”.
Simmons or Carney
Both can defend true SFs and hit the corner three for 10-20 mpg. That’s all we want.
Unless, of course, there's a trade
Like Davis for Delfino at SF. Then sign Amundson with the remaining roster spot. Or Davis to Portland for Pendergraph, Cunningham, and Rudy; then cut Pendergraph and let him return to PDX. Keep Cunningham and Rudy.
BBD traded for 3 players?
Does Portland even bother? I also get the idea you’re not a BBD fan.
Still no love for arguably the best defensive bigman in the game
How do you justify that, it would in fact make our team worse.
The 1 and 5 are the hardest positions to fill, we have a stellar young core to build around in rondo and perk.
The perk trades gotta stop, short of Danny getting Dwight howard, it ain’t happening, period.
by Warrior Spirit on Aug 11, 2010 1:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Not impossible.
But you’d have to give up some players if HOU ends up shopping him at the deadline. Davis would probably be included in there, and you still got 4mil to make up.
If HOU trades Battier they most likely will want to shed some cap, meaning you have to involve a 3rd team with cap space that can absorb the contract, then trade it over to Boston for some young pieces.
Something like Boston’s 1st rounder to HOU, Davis + Robinson + 2nd rounder to “Team X with salary cap space”, Battier to Boston (Who is technically traded to “Team X” then flipped to Boston) that’s the only way HOU can do it without bringing in additional salary.
Not worth it.
Even slightly
by Warrior Spirit on Aug 11, 2010 1:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Moot point now.
With the 4-team deal going down now involving Ariza, there’s 0 chance. Battier is not going anywhere, ever.
But I agree with you anyway, it wouldn’t have been worth it. Was just saying it was hypothetically possible.
Jarvis Hayes is the best option as a FA signing. Carney would be No. 2. Just say NO
to Delonte and Larry Hughes.
They all suck.
Except West, only useful basketball player on that list. Personality issues aside.
You can sign one of two and trade a first round pick for Rudy.
Release Von Wafer and we are set. You got a def. sf. and sg with a lot of potencial and in 2 years he can be regular and Ray bench if he sign for the min.
Who?
Who’s this “Def SF and SG” you are talking about? Hayes? I’m missing something.
Yes Hayes or Carney they are both better than West,Hughes or Gaffney.
And the sg is Rudy.Our pick for the next 2 years is gonna be in the middle of 20. I think Rudy worth that.
Hayes and Carney.
Are bums, they have the size, that’s it. We don’t know what Gaffney can do yet, he’s never gotten that chance.
And why is Rudy, a guy who is only a slightly more proven version of Von Wafer, worth that pick? Danny has a great track record in drafts, and has gotten amazing value out of both rounds. Don’t forget his picks on Delonte, Jefferson, and Gomes were what enabled the trades to get Ray and KG. And those come at no cost.
Wafer in at least one season, was every bit the player Rudy is. He clashed with coaching, fled to Greece, and things didn’t work out. But talent wise, he’s every bit as good. So at the cost their giving up on him, which is basically nothing, take the chance that the greece thing matured him and he’ll cash in on his ridiculous upside. Then Rudy would be pointless on this team, and you’d of just wasted a draft pick for nothing.
Pointless.
I'm not sure he 'clashed with coaching'
so much as ‘got an offer he couldn’t refuse’.
Didn’t that Greek team offer him something ridiculous, like 10M to come over?
That initiative then failed (not totally uncommon with american players who go to Europe) and he tried to come back to the NBA and Houston in particular did try to get him back, but he just failed his physical at that point (i’m still not clear on why yet).
I’m not sure Houston would have offered him a chance to come back if he had clashed. But I don’t know for certain all the details.
I know that Wafer had a couple of hot-head incidents as a young player. He hopefully has matured past that crap. If so, he could be a steal.
Both HOU and Olympiakos.
He clashed with the coach on the Greece team too, big part of the reason he struggled to find consistent playing time there.
Lets hope that he has learned to keep it in check
Shut up. Listen. Watch. Work hard. Do as Doc tells you.
He has a great career opportunity here, but if he screws it up with this set of vets around him, he’s done.
I hope he succeeds – he has a lot of good raw talent.
Stand pat
unless you want to sign a scrub for the vet min to have him sit on the end of the bench.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
Danny Ainge wont trade 1st round picks.
With this team getting older, Danny ainge could decide to forget next year were gonna win it all this year. Danny ainge signed a bunch of 2 yr contracts because he realizes that the celtics are getting older. To give up a first round pick, it might be too risky. But if we had to trade i would choose 1st round pick for Rudy, if not just get West, he’s a good shooter and is not bad on defense.
Think you're right
Vet minimum signing for now. See how the team shakes out. Don’t spend the draft picks if at all possible, and give Wafer/Quis/Bradley a chance to prove that they’re good enough to be the wing rotation.
This team was indirectly built with draft picks (young talent later converted to HoF vets), Danny’s not going to forget that.
Fernandez IS young
If you knew you could get him with the 24th pick in the draft next year, would you take that now? Of course….
but what if the team lands around 19 again? dont you think ainge would be thrilled to land another good young player like bradley again next year, have him locked up for 4 years cheap, as part of rondos team? kg, ray, shaq, jermaine, maybe perkins and baby will all be gone in 2 years. while rudy will be looking to get paid again….just dont know if im comfortable with it even though i like rudy
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Aug 11, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Choices?
I would rather bring back Scal as a wing than Delonte at this stage. Not to thrilled about Larry Hughes either, I would rather have Kenny Walker if he is healthy. Lots of better journeyman type big wing guys out there, even Walter Herrman. Definitely Trenton Hassell, Damien Wilkens, Bobby Simmons and the rest mentioned above.
If we just need a shooter and are not worried about the lock down D kind of guy then my first choice is Rudy.
"First fix their hearts"-Eizo Shimabuku
Trevor Ariza
I would trade Sheed’s contract and draft choices for the rockets Ariza who is the best defensive swingman in the league and plays the same position as Battier and Budinger (both of whom I would also take)
Not best defensive swingman.
Batter or Lebron takes that title.
And HOU has flat out said their not trading anyone right now.
houston lied!
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Aug 11, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
The comments from players should be considered.
We’ve heard from Rudy’s people that he’s upset that he wasn’t a starter out in Portland, and that he didn’t like the offensive scheme they used.
What we’ve heard from Wafer is that he’s intent on quickly learning the Celtics’ defensive schemes, that he needs to reestablish himself as an NBA player, and that Doc will primarily be concerned with his defensive effort.
Going by that, and the thought of losing draft pick for Rudy, I’m more comfortable with the idea of Wafer as a backup man on the wing.
Danny will keep his options open...
Who can blame DA for NOT being overly thrilled to sign Hughes or D-West?
His interest in Rudy seems “conditional” at best. Unless he can get him at his price, DA doesn`t seem very interested. Plus, DA has never been one to seek out European players.
He`ll sit tight until a more favorable option develops.
The problem with the best two options
West and Rudy, is that both of them are SG (and on the small size.) This team is very deep at SG right now, with Ray Allen, Marquis Daniels, and Von Wafer. Plus you might see both PGs in the game with Nate and Rondo cross matching on D. What the team needs is more depth at SF – specifically a SF that has the size and defensive acumen to take some pressure off Pierce, bonus points if he can shoot three pointers.
However you can add West at the minimum – that opens up a lot of mid-season trade possibilities, especially since you’ll have clarity on Perk’s health and you could have felt out if Sheed would be willing/able to come back for one last run.
Typo
Through evaluation? Did you mean thorough evaluation?
the few, the proud, the boston celtics
by bleedgreen34 on Aug 11, 2010 9:57 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
My name is inigo montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die.
by Warrior Spirit on Aug 11, 2010 2:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
lol, but i know a secret you do not...
i am not really left handed
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Aug 11, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
It just hit me
The answer to the Heat…is WEST
He leads the Garden in a chant of LEBRON’S MOM, LEBRON’S MOM and LeBron will rip off his jersey and leave the stadium
A bit exargerated, but it will get in his head
Yes this is a good point
really I think we have options here
but Rudy is 1
delonte is 1a
udoka is 2
Hughes 3
carney 3a
Bobby simmonds is done IMO
by Warrior Spirit on Aug 11, 2010 2:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Actually I could be convinced (easily) to switch carney and hughes (still think the Hughes thing could be smoke and mirrors), I would like to believe Danny knows what he’s doing and by seriously looking at Hughes he must have seen something.
And I would most definetly add Posey to the list as a potential buyout.
by Warrior Spirit on Aug 11, 2010 4:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
that can be the chant for the opener against teh heat
we can all wear delonte west masks and chant, " WHERE"S….YOUR…..MOM!?!" clap, clap, clap…..
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Aug 11, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Small Forward – Trevor Ariza
“As things stand today, the Rockets will start Trevor Ariza at the three on opening night. They have been involved in discussions about potentially moving Ariza and/or Battier to upgrade the three spot, but to date they haven’t had an offer worth mixing up their roster.
Ariza was handed a golden opportunity in 2009-10, one that most players can only dream about. The Rockets put the ball in Ariza’s hands and told him to go out there and show them what he could do. The results were mixed. He averaged a career-high 14.9 points per game, but he also shot a career-worst 39% from the field. Ariza is a very strong defender and will certainly be a factor for the Rockets, but the less they have to rely on him for consistent scoring the better off they’ll be.
Shane Battier will likely get the bulk of the minutes behind Ariza, though Budinger and even Jared Jeffries will likely see minutes at the three depending on injuries and match-ups."
Read more NBA news and insight: http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=17010#ixzz0wJ46k5iC
Want Rudy, hate West, but keep options open...
I don’t think Portland is going to deal with the Celtics because the Bulls can offer more. So pass on West/Hughes and all the other washed up players and concentrate on developing our young talent. That is what a long regular season is for. Sign TG and then come the trade deadline a move can be made if warranted. Go Cs…
I thought
No one wants Delonte because they think he’s “messed up”, not “washed up”. Did I miss something?
His bipolar disorder is one thing, but I doubt people are hating on his game, especially for the vet. minimum.
Either way.
Washed up or messed up, point is. Pass, let the young guys run.
I voted for Delonte
He’s just so irresistibly crazy.
Keep the Number 1.....
draft pick. Maybe trade it for a 2013 – when we will really need it. Don’t want West, Rudy or anyone else. Would rather keep or just save the spot in case an emergency (injury) occurs.
Marcus Banks
trade Sheed’s contract for a contract that expires next year to keep our options open
that ship has sailed, my friend...
He’s being bought out. If they weren’t going to trade ‘Sheed for a trade exception (which would have some cost associated with it), they aren’t going to trade it for a player we don’t need and who’s going to cost us almost $10M after lux tax.
Morris Almond??
That could be a joke!!!
He come to Spain in March and played zero. He was an absolute disaster on both ends of the court.
by PiensaEnVerde on Aug 11, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I think if all it took was a 1st plus the Sheed Contract
That Rudy would be a Celtic already. I think Portland is hoping for more (say… BBD) and Danny isn’t going to give it tow him. I have no inside info, but I think Danny is just waiting for Portland to realize he’s got the best offer on the table…
Contracts did notmatch it would have to have been a multiple player/team deal to include sheed for Rudy
by Warrior Spirit on Aug 11, 2010 5:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
west for now, and josh howard later
west is cheap, shoots and defends well, low-risk, high-reward.
and i’d bet anything that josh howard will be available for trade later in the season, that’s probably the only reason washington signed him with that very tradeable $3M contract. at that point, the c’s could trade marquis for him, and then either a draft pick or a young player.
This would be my choices in order as to who is out there We could get…
1.Jerry Stackhouse – He can still defend is a good athlete and smart basketball player. I think he would be someone we could get at VET MIN.
2. Allen Iverson – Just because he is amazinig athlete and can still give us 14 pts a game. He would be more for offense and spark but we have nate for that. So he’s a tough Call.
3. Flip Murray – Good Shooter – Vet MIN possibility
4. Larry Hughes – Good shooter.. not the greatest shot selection. Maybe we should just sign Antione Walker for 1 yr.
5. Delonte West – Knows Boston, Played well here, was a fan fav I think. He has some issues to deal with not sure if I like the baggage.
6.J.R. Giddens – Played here, great athlete really plays hard when he’s in there, I think Doc liked hiom or he would opf been traded a long time ago.
7. Devin Brown – good shooter
8. Tayshon Prince – Should probably be ranked higher on my list but we would have to trade out players to get him. I like the young talent the C’s have and could develop nicely with the menotship from ouor sr. Vets on our team.. Looking into the future…..
Our Future
Rondo, Harangody, Perk, Bradley, Big baby, Nice young core to build around…. We need our future draft picks to stay competive in the yrs to come..
by High_Roller2312 on Aug 11, 2010 2:44 PM EDT reply actions
Stackhouse.
Is the only player on that list that really makes any sense for Boston. He’s definitely lost a step defensively, but for a short minutes guy, that isn’t as much of a problem.
Still, I’d rather see a young guy like Gaffney, who is defensive minded and works hard get a chance to see how he can develop.
I agree
If Ainge wants to sign a guy at VET MIN. then Stackhouse is the guy to go after. Ive always liked him as a player and if he look at his stats he used to be a 20 point avg. guy till he got shuffled around the league. I think he could find a home here and be comfortable with playing the our Vets. I like Gaffney as a young player as well.. We may be able to get him for cheap. Stackhouse is drama free and has a good head on his shoulders and would fit in great in Boston… Lets Get the Stackhouse recruitment going.. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by High_Roller2312 on Aug 11, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Stackhouse seems like he's done...
He’s probably fine for a 10-15mpg if you need offense. The C’s need DEFENSE and Stackhouse is an ok defender at best. I would NOT trade a 1st Round pick unless it’s a young All Star in the making.
The Celts will need to restock in the next 2 years and trading picks now is going to hurt them in the very near future. After 2012, the team is Pierce, Rondo, Perk (if extended) and maybe a couple of role players. Jarvis Hayes, Hassell even Devean George make some sense. They’re play D and accept a role.
Ainge is smart to wait a bit and see what happens.
Agreed.
Don’t lock up the spot and waste money on players that are only marginally useful. Give Gaffney a chance to see what he can do, and keep him on his unguaranteed. Knowing he could lost his job anyday should be great motivation for him to really push it in practice and prove he can play. Then ya never know, if no trade develops and he shows some ability, sign him and guarantee the deal going into next year. If not, you can waive it and sign bring in someone through a trade, or package him to match salaries in a deal.
Either way, I don’t see any player out there that’s worth spending another 1mil+ on, and locking on the final roster spot and removing all flexibility.
Jarvis Hayes for vet. minimum.
he’s got the size and the ability to score. nobody seems to want him. or just wait and see if Gaffney pans out, though i think he needs some more beef.
Been saying this a while now.
Maybe he’s still waiting for a miracle of a contract!
trade for my cousin..
Dahntay Jones!!
Can should the 3 and defend!
by farias on Aug 11, 2010 6:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
trade for my cousin..
Dahntay Jones!!
Can shoot the 3 and defend!
by farias on Aug 11, 2010 6:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
id love rudy in green!
i doubt portland lets him go for nothing though.
i was thinking maybe the pacers buy out posey after trading for him and collison today. posey was must take partner for collison trade to happen and the pacers seem loaded with G/F types (granger, george, dunleavy, jones, solomon, rush, stephenson).
posey has lost a step but he’s still a contributor on both sides of the ball and id much rather have him than hughes……
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Aug 11, 2010 7:18 PM EDT reply actions
jamario moon
opinions on Moon for last piece ? is he available, first? still think Celts lack a young big that can jump.
a first round in next year is fine
assuming the celts will end up with 50-55w or sth like that.
Bradley is worth so much more than rudy. keep this kid.
by friedgreentomatoes on Aug 11, 2010 11:39 PM EDT reply actions
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