Guilty Pleasure Player: Delonte West
The Wild Wild West
Delonte West.... Red Headed Gun Toting Leprechaun....hmmmm.......... Images and tales of crazy stuff immediately come to mind for all of us familiar with this dude from DC. One could write a book about this guy. I spent so much time reading about The Wild West World of Delonte in the past few days I began to lose sight of his basketball skills, or lack thereof, in some people’s mind.
I became intrigued of what makes this guy tick and slightly re-mesmerized by his funny way of speaking and his cartoonish slant on the world around him. I spent too much time trying to choose a great title and pictures for this article that I missed my deadline. Ok ok ok ..my typing is a bit slow as well. By the way has somebody written a book about Delonte yet? I looked but couldn’t find one but one has to be in the works.
Our fearless leader, Jeff Clark, throws out an idea to write an article about a former Celtic player who is/was our “guilty pleasure”, then he quickly departs to Mexico on the last train south to find his own guilty pleasure I guess south-of-the-border style.
As some of your may remember I was a HUGE Delonte West fan (much bigger fan than my amigo Edgar) clear back in the day... 2004. I never felt guilty about it - I reveled in unabashedly loving this guy. He gave me hope for the C’s when I needed it most. The instant I saw this odd looking little tattooed ginger of a guy in a Celtic uniform I was smitten. Smitten in a manly sort of way of course. Don’t go thinking for my real identity might be Gloria “Cradle Robber” James - just don’t go there with me.
I remember feeling the excitement of watching somebody new to or Celtics; a team in desperate of a spark of life - any spark, any life. I thought he might be a whole flame. Once I saw him play a few games I felt a glimmer of hope that we may have drafted the next......ummmm....Rajon Rondo? Let me say right up front, here in the full light of truth for celticsblog vultures, I thought Delonte was better than Rajon early on! For that misjudgment I do feel guilt and embarrassment (my guilt or embarrassment didn’t last long but I did feel it for a second).
I cannot recall what home game it was in his early rookie season (from some reason I want to say it was against the Knicks) that Delonte put a tremendous block from behind on some big center that brought me to my feet while Tommy was screaming into Mike’s ear - Wow!!! Wow!!!! I knew then this “early entry” kid from St Josephs’s had scrap and major hops! I was excited of what his PO-tential could be.
He seemed so focused those first two seasons. He seemed innocent, yet very tough and like someone looking to prove he belonged in the NBA. I liked how he lacked the typical chest-thumping bravdo on the court. He had quirky this moxie about him. He was unique and I loved that about him. Of course, with my green jaded eyes, it didn’t hurt that he was primarily left-handed because I too am left handed. It was always easier to play defense against me by forcing me to go right. I was so in love with Delonte that all the criticisms about his “left handed only” drives to the basket fell on my deaf Delonte-lovin ears. His left-handed bias wasn’t as bad as the haters would have you believe but it was there.
Delonte’s rookie season consisted of only 39 games played as he hurt his hand/finger/thumb twice. Boy oh boy, it did not take long for the chants of “injury prone” to sweep thru Celticsblog like a sour brown west coast breezy Faker smog. Oh how I hated the naysayers on Celticsblog talking smack and telling lies against my Delonte! Too slow!! too left-handed! too fragile, too short to be a SG. Just a bad tweener who couldn’t play. Yes, Bankshot I am still talking about you.... LOL
Season 2 was Delonte’s finest as a Celtic, as most of his stats from that season still hold up today as his best season as an NBA player. He played 71 games, he played solid, he played like a Celtic and I was certain he was not going anywhere - he would be a long term Celtic. His assists to turnover ratio that season were 3 to 1 and I refused to bow down to the Delonte bashers who said he was NOT a Celtic PG and certainly not one for our future.
When you threw in Al Jefferson as the other breathe of life for the Celtics, I was certain these two guys could be our core to build upon. As you can see, my predictive powers of Celtic player longevity and value plus my overall observational skills are simply unrivaled. My “Be a Better GM” DVD will be out shortly.
Like I said above, the big issue with Delonte as a Celtic (and as a Cavalier for that matter) was/is he a Shooting Guard or Point Guard? As you will recall in the 2006-07 season, Doc couldn’t seem to make up his mind (imagine that) as he started out as PG, then SG and finally back to PG as I recall. His stats were always better as a PG than as SG, but when you line him up to classic PG’s then he doesn’t fit. I was so blind to that fact at first because I saw him as a Dennis Johnson type point guard (and I still do) versus a Tiny Archibald type PG. But some people only see PG’s as the quick water bug type and forget some great PG’s were not ultra quick. However, it is obvious to me in hindsight that Delonte West will never be the player I thought he would eventually become.
When Delonte was pulled over in September 2009 by police while riding on a three wheeled motorcycle carrying multiple loaded weapons I was stunned and sad. Why three wheels also raced thru my mind (crazy I know). As a side note, I never understood why he was on three wheeled cycle?..... unless you need extra balance for those weapons and a guitar case, or you have trouble steering with your right hand (bada bing!!). Keep in mind he swerved this motorcycle with a training wheel in FRONT of the police car!
When I heard this news I felt sad for Delonte as I knew he could be falling quickly from the NBA limelight and into a tragedy. The innocence that I saw in him as a rookie Celtic was certainly long gone. The great smile seemed to be hidden from view. He didn’t look like the old Delonte West. Was he going to be another NBA tragedy story slipping off into a lost world many before him had succumbed to in the past? I truly hope not.
At least I now knew that the PG vs SG argument was finally settled - he was clearly a “Shooting Guard” -a fully loaded Shooting Guard (come on you knew I could not let that pass). I also figured that for him to be wrestled to the ground and handcuffed by police with a large knife hidden in his pants that he must not be as injury prone as some people might have first thought....I mean to not stab or shoot yourself in that situation means something doesn’t it? I told you guys in 2004 he wasn’t injury prone and you didn’t believe me....I have to be right somewhere in this story.
The worst day for me in my Delonte “Love-Fest” Celtic years was the June 2007 draft night in which Delonte really did GO WEST...straight outta Boston and in to a Seattle fog. I was enraged, heartbroken and cussing Danny Ainge like LeBron cusses his hired help. I thought why Ray Allen???? What is Danny thinking!!!!!! That old man Ray Allen is basically over the hill - his better days are behind him. I am so spot-on sometimes with these GM type thoughts. It’s quite a curse to carry around such insight and predictive basketballs skills like mine. So, just like that, my beloved Delonte was gone. The Ginger Tattooed Leprechaun had caught the last train for the WEST coast. The Celtic Delonte era was over in Boston. Oh the humanity of it......
I could get into the discussion about how he performed in Cleveland and how Mo Williams took over the PG spot from Delonte. I could try to analyze his mental illness and how Delonte seemed to go down hill fast with this reported chemical imbalance. I blame Lebron - seriously why not? I could also discuss what team, if any, does he fit with now? Is his career in the NBA now on the downhill slope? I have no idea so I will leave that to others. All I know is that I didn’t write this article to talk about Cleveland or what might have been or what may happen. Danny clearly made the right choice in shipping off Delonte and that number 5 pick for Ray Allen. I was wrong. I am here to admit the error of my ways one final time over my blind love for Delonte. However he was fun to watch, fun to hear interviewed in the locker room: “I’m a playa Greg. I just play with whatever you give me. You give me a sock I’ll play with a sock... I just a playa Greg”.....
I hope the best for this kid, and I do think he could have a role on this 2010 -11 Celtic team if he did come back to us.....but just as Bob Dylan once said : “You can come back, but you can never come back all the way”. Knowing that Delonte loves cartoons as an adult is funny, but unfortunately life isn’t a cartoon. His smile, his cartoon-like humor and his basketball skills won’t be the cure for him if he slips once again in life by making another poor decision like the gun episode. He finally plead guilty to weapon charges and other charges this past month. He is now on probation and electronic monitoring for of all his activities. I will take Ray Allen any day of the week over Delonte and a #5 pick.
I want to remember my Delonte Love-Fest days with a couple of quotes from a Delonte interviews. One when he was still a Celtic and one as a Cavalier. In this first one he was talking about wining and dining (swishing and dishing) his make-believe date out on a yacht somewhere and how the evening would progress. Here is what he said he would want the girl to know about him:
"One more thing: When we're on the yacht eating, we're going to have some Popeyes chicken. That's for dinner. It's to let her know, put a mental image on her mind, first and foremost, if you ain't from the hood, you don't like Popeyes chicken. Everyone there loves Popeyes chicken and the biscuits -- phew. But that's just getting it on her mind, saying, you know, 'Yeah, I can wine and dine you, but I'm a little rough around the edges and I'm keeping it real with you. I can be romantic, but this is real, we're going to eat some chicken tonight. Chicken and biscuits.'"
Classic stuff...hahahahahaha...love it
And here is the serious Delonte answering a question from a 13 year-old kid about tattoos ...(Delonte does a great job here)
Comments: I am thirteen and my mom won't let me get any tattoos. Can you tell my mom that it's okay to get a few?
Delonte: Not at all!
If you don’t have any, that’s a good thing. At first, people went out and got tattoos to be different and be rebels. But now, everybody has them. It’s very rare that you see someone without tattoos. So, it shows that you’re a stronger person to not go along with the in-crowd or go along with the fad. If you have no tattoos, it shows that you’re comfortable with yourself.
I love this answer by Delonte. It shows he has heart, character and the common sense to say the right thing to a 13 year old kid.
Yeah Delonte’s still “my boy” but I guess it was a guilty pleasure. I hope he can succeed in life and basketball. He should however keep one of these cartoon business cards in his pocket and pull it out and look at it on when he feels like life’s just a cartoon.
That’s all folks!!!!
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I was blocked from showing my Delonte pictures.... copyright
and the business card reference had a picture with it …but it too is verboten….
http://youbentmywookie.com/wtf/wile-e-coyotes-business-card-9459
I assume links are allowed
http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1037022
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No, really! :p
Nice piece Po, enjoyed it :)
I warmed up to Delonte because of chaps like you, on these forums, as you were telling everyone he was “da bomb”. I started looking him up on the nets, youtube, wikipedia, etc. Some googling and some searches for his name on CB later, I found myself wanting him back here too.
The opportunity actually popping up here on CB a while ago, was awesome.
Your piece captures what I think of him pretty well, and adds to it.
Thanks for sharing!
Cheers,
- D
- Dirk van Boxtel, the wandering Celtic fan.
Twitter: @4Hoopz
Delonte - The LeBron Killer...
Can Delonte scream “Who’s your daddy” to LeBron and then legally adopt him.
I'm guilty of my binky players, from the good ones like Perk and Rondo--
-to the failures like Oren and Lester. But Antoine, Gerald, Delonte-there are a lot of favorites I just don’t understand.
get pleasure more like get a life. nobody cares about d west d brown or any of these other bums your waisting ink. cant you gin up a fake trade rumor or something or how about this wait on some real celtics news
by thuggedoutinGreen on Aug 2, 2010 4:31 PM EDT reply actions
sure..we can do that...go ahead and logout for until October ...will call you when we have something....and thanks for stopping by
you made us all feel better
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thanks
well, your posts do make me ‘feel good’ – almost always bring a smile. love your humor. certainly feels better than ‘thugged out’ sounds – both the name and the atitude.
Who are these newbies?
And why do they think anyone wants to read posts written by illiterates?
Nice job, Po!
My own “guilty pleasure” players are a whole category: the fundamentally sound, unathletic, big. Can you say “Mokeski”? Also Big Country Reeves, even Aaron Gray. Prolly because I could never aspire to have the athleticism of most NBA guys, but I could aspire to the athleticism of Paul Mokeski—albeit in a 6’0" frame. LOL
"People don't understand, if you can't live the rest of your life off one year in the NBA, you can't live off 21." -- Keon Clark
Wow! 6'0" with the athleticism of Paul Mokeski...
Those NBA GM’s must be beating down your door! :)
by Stanford_Fan on Aug 2, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Well I enjoyed it Po
And for that matter, am enjoying the ability to read up on old favorites such as Reggie Lewis, Decovan Kadayle Brown,and Delonte West. Though I would have expected Leon Powe out of Master Po.
And I await the likes of Radja, Powe, Gomes, AL, Waltah, Xavier, Sherman Douglas, and Joe Johnson (did he ever miss as a Celtic?) and anyone else who mad the dark ages bareable.
by Warrior Spirit on Aug 4, 2010 6:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Did you even read the article
Andi f you don’t care why reply. Clearly news are slow these days, even if you don’t want them to be.
by Tai on Aug 2, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I like D Brown!
Now there was a guy on the opposite end of police trouble.
D-WEST kicks pettute
To all you haters, sayin’ Delonte should be in jail and this and that: Look up our Second Amendment right in the Bill of Rights. It is a Holy document of our nation. It’s our inalienable right to bear arms.
Jesus said to sell clothes and things we don’t need to have enough to buy a sword. Back in the day there were no guns. Slaves couldn’t own swords. Only free men could have swords.
This country has 200,000,000 guns. We can hold our own if the ememy try’s to invade America and tries to give us the mark of the beast. Plenty of Country folks hunt to survive too.
I thought D-West was a lot better when he was with the Celts playing with Big AL, Wally and Tony Allen, Pierce than he was when he was in Cleveland.
I Would try to get D-West back. He’s got game, son. I’d play him as a shooting guard and have Nate or Rajon bring the ball up.
This Celt’s team with the rooks and the Team back and O’Neal coming on board is fixing on winning Championship 18 in 2ought11. I take back about what I said in an earlier comment about Miami getting a Three-Peat. Foch em and the Lakers, Go Celtics.
Great story
I still have hope for him, he looked good against the Celtics in the playoffs
He's too nuts
The man is crazy, he’s likely to walk into the locker room one day, yell “Allahu Akbar” , pull the switch and blow the whole team up.
Delonte West...
…did breathe a breath of fresh air into the celtics when he first arrived; I felt it, there was hope, a new energy with T.A., Al and Perk. Delonte would sky high, play hard and go left, but that was okay at the time because he was better than what we had (Marcus I don’t miss you Banks).
I wish him the best of health and hope he finds peace with himself.
He was a Celtic and I liked him.
Good job Master Po.
I always liked Delonte, and it’s nice to be reminded why.
good read, good writing...
and good luck to D-West.
Nicely done, Po-man.
Pooooooooooooooooooooo
Po what’s good brotha? Nice job on the article my man, hope all’s well.
I too was/am a big Delonte fan. I’m not giving up on him now, either. Sure, he has gone through some stuff and made a couple poor decisions, but that doesn’t erase the reasons I liked him in the first place. Dude might have some issues upstairs, likely predicated off of his very rough upbringing, but he plays with heart and is gold in front of a camera.
In honor of D-West, I think I’ll go grab myself a RASBURY iced teaaaa.
P.S. – If I were to make a guilty pleasures article, ya’ll know where it’s at… Bassy all day baby. Still.
Go Celtics! Go Hoyas!
West to Lebron. Lebron I'm your father!!
Lebron. Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Yes, Po
I, too, had a “thing” for Rondo…he was better than Tuna in an interview (well, maybe not better…but he was a Celtic)! And I still want him to succeed…both in his career and in his battle with mental disease. Like I said in another thread, I would not be heartbroken to see him back with Boston. Is Harangody a red head? Is Scal (another favorite of mine) coming back? To win a championship we need a redhead on the team. (Just by these comments you can see how superstitious I am and how little I really know about the game of basketball.)
Great Job
Gerat Job Old Lady
and please dont forget Mr. Triple next to bankshot.
double one
DW is MY boy
You rock, PO!
I hope Delonte keeps getting his act together… Was sad to see him go, sadder to see that bizarre weapons incident, and I wish him the best.
And PO – you ate the testify mad hatter of CB… Keep it up !
by Hal Jordan on Aug 2, 2010 8:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
He's worth every penny we can offer him
There’s the whole mystique of the rumored affair between Delonte and Lebron’s mom to taunt the “king” with.
"I don't hate anyone, at least not for more than 48 minutes, barring overtime."
-Sir Charles Barkley
Enjoyed this blog - good writing!
Delonte is out there – but on the court, has a lot to offer.
I like him not encouraging the kid to get tats – and he didn’t even quote Bugs Bunny…
Personally, if he is available for the min, I think he would be good for this team!
by nba is the worst on Aug 2, 2010 9:12 PM EDT reply actions
Delonte West
As I said before, I’d take Delonte back any day. He’s not your type cast 1 or 2. He’s a little of both but he makes his team better. He steps up. Bring him home Danny.
Once again
Nailing one of my guilty pleasures too!
I don’t care what he does, I love watching this guy play.
haha did i hit a nerve? alot of heat coming from the kyboards no bs i check this site 20 times a day just mad danny aint giave us nothing but the likes of von wafer to talk about love yall dudes any way i bleed green and im not ne to the sit maser po been here just always get banned for my realism
by thuggedoutinGreen on Aug 2, 2010 9:44 PM EDT reply actions
Delonte?
I know what you mean about West. He was a tease here, not showing exactly what he could do, but giving his all all of the time. He threw his body around like he was playing football, the only thing is he didn’t have the pads on. However, the night that they announced the trade with Seattle for Ray Allen my heart skipped a beat. I had been dying for Ray to be in Celtic green for years. Watching him play these last three years has proved to me that I was right, he belonged here.
I have had many players over the years that I have rooted hard for. Eric Williams, Ricky Davis, Ed Pinckney, there is a list too long to name. My problem is that everytime I went to the Garden to watch one of my favorite players, they got traded that particular day. It happened with Williams and Davis. I also rooted very hard for Maxwell, I loved his game,
but by l985, Red was through with him and traded him also.
As far as Delonte is concerned, He shouldn’ t come back here. We will get picked up by some team. I question why he hasn’t been suspended, look at the priced Arenas had to pay, why not this guy???? At least Gilberts guns weren’t loaded!!!
Ah forgot about Pinckney…
Agree about Maxwell too, I even named the family dog Cedric Maxwell
by Warrior Spirit on Aug 4, 2010 6:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
excellent piece,po. i share many of your feelings re mr. west and we were better off getting ray. if west stays on his meds, he’ll be ok. the team we have now does not need any distractions. i think shaq would be a good fit for the talent he has left, but would be a foul ball as far as being a giant distraction. as much as sheed was a jerk on the floor, he was a solid team guy. i won’t forget going to the playoff games and seeing sheed working hard on his shot long before the game started.
Master Po you were right about Jefferson and West...
they are two guys you can build a core with, assuming you trade them for Hall of Famers. But I do love those two. When were a awful team, they were our guys… they were our heroes.
Delonte West as a "Shooting Guard"!
LOL! Well done, Master Po!
Never would have guessed it...Master Po has a "man-crush" on Delonte West?!?
I did like the “toughness” of West, but that was pretty much it.
As a Celtic fan, it was always very embarrassing to see this tattooed freak, coupled with his bizarre way of speaking, being interviewed. Fortunately, only the local Boston market would witness it , since the Celtics were almost never on TNT or ABC during Delonte`s time here.
Po, you are in your 50`s, how could you possibly have an affinity for a guy like this?
Personally, Paul Westphal will always be my #1 Celtic guilty pleasure player. I was ecstatic the day Red drafted him {`72}…and cursed Red for trading him {`75}.
These are all good points Po, but you forgot to mention a few of the coincidental reasons to like Delonte on the C's...
1) His nickname is “Redz” (tattoo on his neck) and he is from DC, just like another famous “Red” from DC
2) He actually looks like a leprechaun. Of all NBA players, who looks more like a Leprechaun?
3) Wears number 13
4) His last name, West, carries shades of historical Celtics enemy Jerry West. To see a prominent West in Celtic green seems like a nice historical twist…
*This is all beyond the obvious stuff that he does on the floor, like play with a ton of heart and poise. DWest haters might be turned off from the guy because he’s not an all-star and isn’t a flashy self-promoter, but he’s a perfect 6th or 7th man for a championship team. He hits big shots, he provides energy, and he’s a good person.
His mental health issues are overblown. His crime, which he’s getting crucified for here on this site, was harmful to nobody but himself and is practically covered by 2nd Amendment protections. Americans are allowed to carry loaded guns, this just ruled on by the Supreme Court a couple weeks ago. I think the Delonte haters should look past his tattoos
by milt palacio's shot on Aug 3, 2010 9:46 AM EDT reply actions
very nice....I did however mention the Leprechaun similarities
thanks everyone for the nice comments……see you next year…hahahahaa
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Mike Bibby looks more like a leprechaun
In fact, I always said he {Bibby} and Lucky were “separated at birth.”
"People don't understand, if you can't live the rest of your life off one year in the NBA, you can't live off 21." -- Keon Clark

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