Scal Wants to Return to Celtics
by Greg Payne on Aug 6, 2010 12:30 PM EDT
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PrintBrian Scalabrine's chances of re-signing with the Boston Celtics took a pretty hefty hit (both literally and figuratively) on Wednesday when the team elected to sign Shaquille O'Neal. The signing brings Boston's roster to 14 players (including Rasheed Wallace), and, if Luke Harangody signs a contract as expected, there simply won't be room for Scal. Despite that, Scal's still holding out hope, as he recently told Gary Washburn of The Boston Globe:
"I don't know what my plans are," he said outside of Holland Community Center in Dorchester. "I'm just keeping it wide open. I've got good offers overseas, but my goal is to play in the States for one more year and see what comes from it."
"Is (playing in Europe) what I want to do? No. I want to play for the Celtics," he said. "I want to keep grinding out. I want to win another championship. I really want to see what Shaq's like."
He was representing the Celtics at their Feed the Children Program when he spoke to Washburn, and I think it's important to note that Scal isn't making these various appearances in the hopes that they will somehow help him earn another contract, just in case there are any people out there asinine enough to think he's playing that card.
"The thing you have to realize is I don't sweat things out of my control," he said. "I am not doing this (community event) to get signed. I am not feeding children to be signed. I am feeding children because children need to be fed."
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ahh bring him back
its just the right thing to do we can trade harangody for sum cash n a pick maybe but i kno this is dumb but look scall was there through the good times and bad its just the right thing to do DA
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Scal
Well, I’m not going to be heartbroken if he goes. However, Gaffney, Lafayette, and Erden all aren’t guaranteed. I wouldn’t mind cutting any of them to bring Scal back.
While he didn’t live up to his contract, he did fill in nicely at times when we had injuries, and his ability to hit the three and defend more mobile 4s shouldn’t be undervalued.
If not, a coaching job wouldn’t be bad for him.
omg ur right!
like what we did with tyron lue and sam (sam was still playing though)
Scal I suspect is one great guy ...good heart, goo character, great teammate etc....
but his time has passed on this team I am afraid…truthfully I would have Scal than Semih “Concious” Erden…. but not to be
Peace and good luck Scal…you were a good Celtic if for no other reason in that you cared and played hard.
Is it Soup Yet?
Has anybody checked your temp, Great One?
Is there a PO imposter?
A positive post about Scal by the Great One?
Bizarre.
by Finkelskyhook on Aug 6, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
There's no room for him...
I wouldn’t mind seeing him get a gig in the front office / coaching staff, though.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
Yeah I wish he would just
retire and take a intern type coaching job.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
agreed
if he stuck around in a coaching capacity, he’s more than welcome. in terms of playing, his days here have to have come to an end. he should have been traded when he was an expiring deal (and much sooner than that in my opinion).
he seems to have a good grasp of the game, his physical inabilities not withstanding. he seems like decent coaching material
Agree Master Po
His time has come and gone!
He was a fringe player at best as was Walter McCarthy.
Try heading out to the left coast.
Scal you have two options
Europe or front office
You are not a good basketball player (never was) and we dont need your dead weight on our bench take the office job if you like u cant play hear anymore… Its harangody’s spot now and he was a steal in the draft just like baby was and dejuan blair
by CelticsHoorah!!! on Aug 6, 2010 1:10 PM EDT reply actions
"never was" ?
Short memories.
When KG went down in January of 09, Scal subbed for him extensively for a stretch (25-33 minutes per game while starting 5 and large chunks of 3 more games ) and posted very good numbers during that stretch before getting injured himself. In particular, we won every game in that 8 game stretch.
This is the NBA. That doesn’t happen if someone on the floor is not a ‘good basketball player’.
I’m not saying Scal was great. But he was definitely an NBA caliber player and able to hold up his end on a championship quality team.
Damn what was doc doing given him 25-33 minutes..he wasnt the reason why we won those games..scal is a 15th man at best on any team in the league
by CelticsHoorah!!! on Aug 6, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
You’re missing the point scal is not good enough to be on the team like i said his two options should be europe or the office which he’d be lucky to get knowing that he’s never accomplished anything in his career..he’s a below average player who won a title because of the big3
by CelticsHoorah!!! on Aug 6, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm just going to steal a line from mmmmm's post. If you don't get it, that's not
because mmmmm didn’t articulate it clearly enough, it’s because you have a bias against Scal that prevents you from seeing the statement’s validity.
“I’m not saying Scal was great. But he was definitely an NBA caliber player and able to hold up his end on a championship quality team.”
I disagree
The 15th man doesn’t “hold up his end on a championship quality team.” A championship quality team has that status due to the top 5-6 guys, at most. Any doofus who ever cashed an NBA paycheck could have been substituted for Scal on the championship-quality team, without changing the basic championship quality even one iota.
As to whether Scal is/was “definitely an NBA caliber player,” the present lack of even a tiny bit of interest in him speaks volumes. The 5-year deal that has kept him in the league for so long was a gift, one of the worst mistakes DA has made—well, at least a mistake.
It is possible—in fact, easy—to be a good person without being a good basketball player. There is no shame in that. I fit into that category. But so does Scal.
"People don't understand, if you can't live the rest of your life off one year in the NBA, you can't live off 21." -- Keon Clark
How does what the market is saying _now_
have anything to do with whether he was an NBA caliber player in the past?
That misses the point. The hard simple and true facts are that when Scal’s number was called on in January of ‘09, he played very well. That is recorded history. If you missed it, that’s fine. But it did happen. You cannot claim that it did not.
He was not the ‘15th man’ back then. He was the 2nd big man off the bench – and when KG & Powe got injured he became the starter for 5 games and did his job.
And did a similarly respectable job in the '09 playoffs
Came back from multiple concussions to fill in nicely as the ONLY decent bench big during the Orlando series. Ass mmmmm said about his play in January ‘09, if you missed his play in the Orlando series last year, that’s fine. But it did happen.
Therefore, the 5-year deal Ainge gave him was NOT a bad signing
I felt throughout those five years that Scal represented an insurance policy if any of the bigs went down, and the Celtics collected on that policy several times.
why didn't he play
I seem to remember him playing quality playoff minutes in 09. Was he unable to play in the 10 Finals because of injury? If not, then why the hell didn’t he play after Perk went down? Could have used a big body…
He did play - but only briefly
He specifically came in for just a brief bit in Game 7 specifically to guard Odom.
Otherwise, Doc rode his best horse (Sheed) as much as possible in the final game. Scal did a very nice job on Odom while he was in but he was not going to stay in against Gasol & Bynum – too much height differential to give up.
I Met Scal
last year.
He was a little short and pissy with me at first.
Then I told him he was an “all-time classic Celtics role player, willing to do whatever the coach asked, when the coach asked,” and, boy, did he warm up.
I believe what I said too.
You don’t think that a guy like Glenn McDonald was inherently more talented than Scal, now do you?
I agree with the above
comments about Scal coaching. Seems to always know what to do but doesn’t have the skills to do it. Good head though.
Sign him.
You are what is right about Sports Scal. A team player, good community member, hard working overachiever that got the most out of yourself. More concerned with the good of the team than your own stats or PT. If the decision is him or Gaffney then it isn’t even close. Sign Scal!!
No
can’t believe everyone hated on Shaq but have no problem with Scal
Semih "Conscious"
That’s pretty funny dude. I would sign Scal if he came to training camp down trimmed down to a C-cup.
by thereallargejames on Aug 6, 2010 1:52 PM EDT reply actions
Some may worry about Jolly's being a chemistry problem, but look--he's a draw too:
Part of why Scal wants to return!
Semih
Scal over Erden Po? I’m guessing you’ll forget you ever said that, by all-star break…
Somebody tell scal to go home
"Victory belongs to the most Preserving" - Napoleon
"The teams that do the best job of putting personal agendas aside are the successful teams. It's not easy. That's why it's hard being a good teammate, but everyone has that choice." - Ray Allen
by AiTheLAviTiCuS#21 on Aug 6, 2010 2:25 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Scal plays better D than Davis in certain match ups
Davis, in my opinion was overmatched most of the Finals series. (Okay, game 4 was a break out game.) I was hoping Doc wouldn’t put him in with about 4.5 minutes to go in the last game. Sure enough he did and LA started another surge. Doc quickly took him out. On the otherhand, in the few minutes Scal played in that series he hustled on ‘D’ and did pretty well. I was disappointed Doc didn’t play him more.
I’m not saying Scal is better than Davis by any means, but there were times Scal might have been the better replacement. I’m also not saying Scal is a good or great defensive player or that he’s not a liabitity. I’d still take him over Shelden Williams and against certain teams, I’d play him over Glen.
In reality, Danny should be looking for another scorer or big man. Scal is not the answer there. I’ll have to wait and see if I would take him over Erden.
Good point, Scal's D was pretty good at times but people forget that because he doesn't "seem" like a legit NBA basketball player
His team D was actually one of the best on the team, though his man-to-man defense suffered because he’s not as agile and quick as other players.
As far as his offense, id he wasn’t hitting the 3-ball, he was pretty much a liabitiy on that end of the floor, except for setting picks which he did do well.
I don’t want Scal back, but I am shocked that some posters are kicking him in the arse as he exits. C’mon folks, you can do better.
Concur with every word. That is exactly the truth on all points.
Scal was a great ‘fundamentals’ player, but not a stellar athlete (by NBA standards). Doc always said that he could trust Scal to do exactly his job when he put him on the floor.
Good luck wherever you end up Scal
You were a good trooper, but there absolutely in no room nor no need for you in Boston.
actually have a great Scal Story
A couple of years ago my Cub Scouts got to be the color guard for a Celtics Game. This meant they (and ME!!!) got to to the floor and present the flag for the National Anthem.
When the Celtics lined up, one of the coaches, Kevin Eastman, had inadvertently stood in front of one my cubs. I was too far away to do anything, but my man SCAL came to the rescue. He saw how the kid was being pushed over shadowed by adults and players, so he got out of line and made everyone move over so the kid could have room.
I must say, it was a very nice human moment. I haven’t said a bad word about Scal since, although I would wince during some shot selections. :-)
And that's just what he should be doing,
and probably will be doing soon. He will benefit many more kids than just one, in his new community relations job.
I never heard anyone say anything other than that Scal is a nice guy.
"People don't understand, if you can't live the rest of your life off one year in the NBA, you can't live off 21." -- Keon Clark
LOL
Scal, Powe has more talent on 1 leg then you did in your entire career. If you steal a roster spot from someone who HAS talent AGAIN for the 900th time i’ll become a clippers fan. it was ridiculous paying him 3 mil the last 5 years for absolutely NOTHING. This isn’t middle school where you clap for the fat kid because he “was a good guy” and tell him he tried his hardest and it was good enough. This is the NBA where you leave very fast when you have no talent, Jkidd and Rondo arent here to save you now to make you look good for a nice contract while all you do is stand looking like your about to crap your pants at the 3 pt line (and seeing him shoot off the dribble is HILARIOUS). Speaking of rings he won his 1 and only BECAUSE we didn’t play him 1 minute in the 2008 NBA finals. Goodbye Scal!!!!
That's uncalled for, and actually not even correct
Please remember that Doc actually played Scal. Why? Because he was a decent big-man defender and generally did no harm on the offensive end. Yes, a few stray turnovers here and there, but he did a decent job at setting picks and swinging the ball on passes. Also keep in mind that it’s tough to come in the game after possibly not having played much and hit 3-point shots. I think Scal got more playing time in New Jersey and his FG% was probably better as a result (I would need to check that).
What benefit is there in ridicule at this point?
these are all excuses
for a pretty lousy basketball player.
"Take it to the hoop, there's a dance involved." - DJ Tommy
I don’t get the hate for Scal at all. He was overpaid, sure. You expect him to turn down the contract that he was offered? Say that he doesn’t deserve $3 mil, that he’d rather have $1 mil? C’mon. That’s not to mention that he actually played pretty significant reserve minutes in New Jersey.
There doesn’t seem to be space for him on this Celtics team’s roster. But you’re really faulting him for saying that he’d like to return?
On most teams, it’s more important for the 15th man to embrace and relish his role than be talented. The Celtics are a lot better off with a gracious teammate like Scal than they are with a marginally better but malcontented player that’s going to be complaining about playing time. Fortunately, it doesn’t look like this will be a problem for the Celtics – they won’t have to choose between the more talented player and one who will accept his role.
Laughing my a** off couldn’t say it better myself
by CelticsHoorah!!! on Aug 6, 2010 4:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
unfortuniatly we need a lock down wing player
i am for giving scal a sheldon williams role or something like tyron lue had in docs staff. fundamentally on/off the court he’s one of the good guys and deserves a deal somewhere.. thanks for the 5 yrs
Good Riddance
Effort and “basketball IQ” are the only consolation for those who can’t play (and Scalabrine is the definition of that). Don’t get me wrong effort and bball IQ are essential to the game but if you don’t have anything else to bring to the table you are useless and should be on the staff or the practice squad (football analogy) not on the roster let alone the active roster.
I have been counting down the days since 2006 till his contract was up. Great teammate, Good with the media, severely overpaid. I honestly don’t understand why you guys like him so much he was more of a sideshow then anything. Maybe because he was the token white go on the team or because he was a ginger I don’t know. I certainly won’t miss him.
PS I am sure we would all appreciate it if you would pay the $15 million dollars and a roster spot you stole over the last 5 years.
I'd rather have Scal than Delonte? Why?
Because the final missing piece is a small forward that can defend. Scal is not who I want in that position, but if we don’t end up getting anyone else besides Marquis, at least Scal can defend some 3’s. Delonte has no shot at defending 3’s.
Scal is one of the slowing bench players in the league and he won’t be able to defend the 3..teams like miami,orlando.atlanta,and chicago all have players whose eyes will light up if scal is guarding them
by CelticsHoorah!!! on Aug 6, 2010 4:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
funny that you list Atlanta in that
apparently you missed the game last January 11th.
I probably did miss that knowing scal isn’t on the court for that long
by CelticsHoorah!!! on Aug 6, 2010 10:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He played nearly 21 minutes
and in particular – to your comment – completely shut Smith down with his man defense.
I like Harangody's chances
a lot batter than Scal’s against those 3s you are talking about,
"People don't understand, if you can't live the rest of your life off one year in the NBA, you can't live off 21." -- Keon Clark
scal
omg please put some make up on the guy and let him be the mascot other then that get rid of this bum good god
"Lucky the Mascot" was never actually replaced...
That could be a job opening for Scal!
Remember the movie The Fly?
If those of u who want him back were to become one with Scal, would the jersey read Scalab-urine?
if lafeyette/gaffney are part of a sheed trade
i have no problem signing scal. he’s a great 15th man. plays hard, plays with energy, plays solid team defense, and is a great locker room presence. if the roster stays as it is, though, scal is unfortunately as good as gone. i have to say, i love that last line. it says everything about the guy. he does a lot of these types of programs, including seeds for peace. scal’s one the really good guys in the nba. hopefully we keep him around somehow (which of course means we trade sheed and parts to get a nice trade exception or a wing to back up pierce).
Yea - i have no problem if we let Scal go because, basically we have better players.
But if there is an open 15th slot – there are far worse guys you could carry in that spot.
Every cheeseburger and pizza Scal eats is one less that Shaq or BBD can eat. I say RE-SIGN SCAL!!!
by Thruthelookingglass on Aug 6, 2010 5:57 PM EDT reply actions
so let's see
roster:
Rondo, Ray, PP, KG, Perk (5 players there)
JO, Shaq, Daniels, Robinson, Wafer, Bradley, Davis as guaranteed contracts (another 7 for 12 players now)
Sheed as a “guaranteed” contract—>he’ll be swapped out for someone else. (now 13)
Erden and Harangody to round out the roster of 15.
I’m not in favor of dropping any of them for Scal. No way, no how. Erden’s the shakiest of that bunch but I’d like him on the roster just in case JO and/or Shaq go down while we’re still waiting for Perk.
Scal as a coach would be fine, but not as a returning player
Noooooooooooooooooooooooo..........................
And if you want to help children, then stop voting republican!
So, Thruthelookingglass...
You’re hoping that Scal clogs up a totally different kind of middle then? Makes sense.
I’ll miss Scal’s attitude and hustle and spot duty, but that five-year, $3 mill deal was like a slow-drip of torture. When you see what kind of production you get out of similarly paid players, it was a little maddening. Nothing on him, just not a very good signing by Danny.
I agree with the more positive vibe: Would be great to have him as an intern/assistant, or whatever.
And I suppose I’ll miss the Celtic who most closely resembles me — unless Michael Rappaport signs.
Scal wants to return?
Yeah and so does Lucky as a mascot.
Next thing you know, we’ll get a call from Bozo the Clown saying he wants to go
back to the circus.
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