"[The Heat] will break the single-season win record [of 72],'' Jeff Van Gundy said. "And I think they have a legit shot at the Lakers' 33-game [winning] streak [in 1971-72], as well. And only the Lakers have even a remote shot at beating them in a playoff series. They will never lose two games in a row this year."
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Yeah, but...
the Cs didn’t have 3 of the best players in the NBA…
by Icepick33 on Aug 8, 2010 11:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Since when is Chris Bosh even in the same category as LeBron and Wade?
The guy is so damn overrated, its not even funny.
He was magically transformed this summer into a 'future HoFer'
by sheer association, I guess.
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by itkonlyyou224 on Aug 9, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
JVG is prone to hyperbole
but, he maybe correct. They’ll have to start that 33 game streak after game 1 though. Also I doubt very seriously he thinks his brothers team has no shot at beating them. Good soundbite though.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
he's prone to something -
- either that, or the whole ridiculous statement was orchestrated by the league
.
Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk
This is the same guy
who didn’t believe the Cs had a chance in either series against the Cavs or the Lakers all year. He routinely touted the Cavs as the class of the East and cast the Celts as too ld for their own good. I always go the felling that he believed the Celts opponents were more responsible for the Celts post-season success rather than the Celts themselves.
Van Gundy must think his brother is still coaching in Miami.
Wake up JVG. Yeah, the Heat will be a much improved team, and I have no doubt LBJ, Bosh and Wade will play hard every night, which will be to their detriment. The Heat will do one of two things this year:
1)They will play their butts off every game, much like The C’s did in 2008, and come play-off time they will be burned out from trying to win 70+ games, or
2) They play well enough to gain a high seed and save everything else for the playoffs, taking nights off and resting up late in the season. IF they do that, then I do think they will be tough to beat in a 7 games series.
Time will tell. I don’t know how they can match u with the C’s inside. If DA can land one more legit wing, then I think we are the prohibitive favorite to win the Eastern Conference AGAIN.
As we all know the key for these Celtics will be chemistry and staying healthy. IF Doc can manage that with some good luck, then I think we are no worse than a 2 or 3 seed this year. No more bad home losses, no more getting killed on the boards.
Not a chance
Way too soon for this kind of thing – but I kind of like it.
More pressure on the Heat by christening them the G.O.A.T now can’t hurt. Any stumbling out of the gate and we may see some infighting for the spotlight.
I say they will have (inevitable) issues at the 1 and 5 – magnified by hype, it’s possible the team has trouble getting 60 wins – certainly not 73+
by nba is the worst on Aug 8, 2010 8:43 AM EDT reply actions
Celtics fans kidding themselves
I recognize that the games still have to be played. Barring injury though anyone that doesnt think the Heat is the overwhelming favorite to win it all is lying to themselves.
There is a chance they may have some hiccups coming out of the gate. The Celtics best chance to beat the Heat is that first game. Outside of that, “foget ’bout it!”
Way too soon
Your opinion starts with “barring injury” – which points to the heat’s lack of depth.
It will be a significant challenge to assemble a functional rotation with the contrasts in speed and skill sets, particularly at the center position – One true big who is slow as molasses, one undersized PF who likely starts at center with a 3-5" size disadvantage vs 7-footers, and a 32 yo who was 2.1/3.4 last season.
Hardly “overwhelming favorites”…
by nba is the worst on Aug 8, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions
on the flip side...
They have the 2 best players in the NBA and another guy who’s top-10 and played at a top-5 level through the first several months of last year. That gives them incredible depth right there. How many other teams can lose a superstar and STILL have 2 of the top 10 players in the NBA suiting up for them? (Answer: none.) You’re right that they’re a bit thin in the middle, although Haslem defends bigs better than his size would indicate. But Mike Miller is the ideal complement to their big 3. Can you imagine how many wide open jumpers he’ll see, playing with those guys? He only needs a split-second to get off his shot.
Enough injuries could derail any team, but this Heat squad will have the 3 best players on the court most nights. With only 5 players in the game at any time in basketball, that gives them an incredible advantage. I hope Van Gundy’s wrong, but I think there’s a decent chance he’s right, though you have to put the Celtics up there with any team that has a chance to beat the Heat. I think this year’s Celtics team is better than the team that was winning the Finals until 7 minutes remained and quite possibly could be better than the Lakers, so how could the Lakers be the only team that can challenge the Heat.
Bosh...
Is not a top 10 player in the NBA. C’mon. Wade has an injury or off night, this team falls apart because James will get that deer in the headlights look with the game on the line and Bosh will meltdown if expected to actually help a team win games, not just put up fantasy game stats.
Deer in the headlights look? Please.
I originally agreed with Bosh not being a top ten player, but now I’m having a hard time coming up with ten players that currently are significantly better; plus putting him with James, Wade and Miller can’t hurt him.
Where do you place him then?
No worse than top-15, right? I’ll put as many ahead of him as I plausibly can:
1 LeBron
2 Wade
3 Kobe
4 Paul
5 Howard
6 Durant
7 Carmelo
8 DWilliams
9 Gasol
10 Amare
11 Rondo
12 Nowitzki
13 BRoy
14 Pierce
15 Bosh
I’d probably put him at #10 on that list, but I really don’t see how he gets below #15, and frankly putting him below Pierce seems absurd to me. Still, how many other teams can lose a superstar and have 2 top-15 players? Answer: none.
Key word I used was significant
I’m not sure Gasol, Amare, Nowitzki, Pierce or even Carmelo (I don’t see him play enough) are any better than Bosh.
To look at it another way; for one game, which NBA PF would you want?
Duncan. And he’s not even on the list.
and a couple more years from now all that is going to change
just like it did for the celts.. all 3 of there numbers will go down and they wont even be as close to what they use to average from having the ball in there hand 90 % of the time to 30 % now.. then everyone will start saying how much they suck… just like it happen to the celtics everyone hopped on the wagon now we washed up.. u ppl make me laff lets be real here! and im hoping ur top 15 aint based on stats please tell me they are not. and jeff van gundy is a retard they will lose 2 in a row… shit happens.. these guys aint gods as sum ppl believe they are.. grrr im getting angry
To put the messiah or Wade above Kobe is absurd.
To not have Duncan on the list is equally absurd. Bosh better than Duncan??lol
by Finkelskyhook on Aug 8, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
The only thing Kobe does better than LeBron and Wade
is have better teammates.
Anyone that just looks at the roster on paper
And assumes 2-3 great players will surely beat other good TEAMS is probably either saying it for fun or does not quite understand the game
by friedgreentomatoes on Aug 8, 2010 9:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
No just the opposite. Lots of holes on that roster to exploit.
You would make the perfect ESPN ‘expert’.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
what a moron
JVG is the least perceptive, most annoying TV announcer ever, and this might be the dumbest thing he ever said. I would expect some idiot fan to think that the Heat is automatically an all-time team (with two great players, one good one, and ten random guys). But a coach? To compare them to the greatest teams ever? What a jackass.
JVG is hype.
Of course the Heat are the favorites to win it all (or at least the east). But, that doesn’t mean they will. The best record ever? I don’t think so. The Lakers streak? Don’t think so either. Heat have a good bench but not the best. They are weak at the point and center.
Wasn’t JVG the coach who was dragged around while hanging onto Mournings leg like a chiwahwah on a mail man’s ankle ankle in the 98 playoffs?
That record has to fall someday.
Even if the Heat beat us in a seven game series, how are they going to beat the lakers if healthy. The Lakers have Artest and now Matt Barnes to tag team Lebron; and the Heat still have to find away to stop Gasol, Bynum and Odom; I didn’t even mention Kobe.
Like someone else posted above, it’s great hype!
o.o..
He’s exaggerating.. wow, already saying they can beat the 72 win record without even seeing them play? come on now Van Gundy.. they will never lose 2 in a row? they will break the 33 games in a row record? wow.. this guy is putting this team in a pedestal without even letting them play their first game, let them play first and see how they mix up and then talk about records and championships.
by Stanley Acosta Calderón on Aug 8, 2010 10:05 AM EDT reply actions
Maybe it's reverse phychology..
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
Big Head JVG suddenly can see the future?
Van Gundy’s bulbous shiny head reminds me of a long forgotten episode of Star Trek in which Large Headed Telepathic Aliens try to control the old wily Captain Kirk
Their Mind Powers didn’t work out so well either….I think their big brainy heads exploded by the end of the the show as I recall.
Mike Breen please stand very close to JVG when his head also explodes right after the Heat lose Game #1 to the Celtics…..Predictions ….???? I don’t play that…
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by Master Po on Aug 8, 2010 10:20 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm a geek
I think those aliens tried to control Capt Pike in the original pilot. But your point is well taken.
Someone Has to Do IT
Predictions are easy.
If they come true: you claim genius
If they do not: you disavow them and explain what got in the way.
Van Gundy: NBA Nostradamus
these guys have 2 good people on the bench and 3 good people in the starting lineup everyone else sucks
Lemme guess
Eddie House isn’t included in this, is he?
Why Worry?
JVG has just done the whole league a favor. I really want the Heat to believe the hype, especially Lebron. We will crush them in the first game and everyone will see how quickly they become a jumpshooting team with their weak depth and glaring lack of talent in the middle.
Then the whining with excuses will start and it will because they dont have a good enough supporting cast or some such nonsense. How long before Mike Miller is starting and DWade is manning the point? Before Thanksgiving I bet….
"First fix their hearts"-Eizo Shimabuku
+1
The more they are given the role of favorite, the more pressure there will be not to underperform to those lofty expectations.
JVG may have said these (obviously) over the top statements as an intentional effort to put more pressure on the Heat.
by nba is the worst on Aug 8, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Actually, I can see the Heat crushing most teams in the regular season.
They will dominate most regular season matches and who knows? Maybe they can challenge for 70 wins. There are a lot of crappy teams out their and any team that foolishly makes the choice to double either Wade or Lebron will end up getting torched.
But they are still currently fundamentally flawed in the interior and you need to be strong in the interior to win series against the elite teams. And the elite teams will play Wade and Lebron straight up.
The 70 wins prediction isn't completely out of the realm
of possibility the 33 straight is though, IMO. The league has too many good/great teams to allow for any long sustained streak.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
Actually he predicted 73
Which IS completely out of the realm.
by nba is the worst on Aug 8, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
They're flawed in the same way the Bulls were flawed by not having great centers or points.
JVG is surely given to hyperbole, but winning 70 games is not out of the question. Winning more than 33 in a row would be the harder feat. I think the Heat are the clear favorites in the East. They’ll be better the year after this upcoming one, imo, when they can add a player with the MLE (probably a center) and they’ll have played together for an entire year.
doubleplusungoodthinker
JVG takes the easy picks
of course its easy to say miami is going to dominate. They have 3 of the most dominant players around. It was easy to say the cavs were going to stomp the celtics this year in the playoffs. But reality isnt easy.
Not too far-fetched
LeBron, Wade & Bosh looks to be as deadly a trio as Jordan, Pippen & Rodman/Grant.
Miller and Haslem are two of the best bench players in the league.
On paper, they have what it takes.
The playoff prediction rings as overly hyperbolic though. The Lakers have more than a remote chance of beating them and the C’s aren’t far behind.
This is the same guy
that said that LeBron James was the greatest passer in the history of the NBA so I hope everyone will forgive me if I don’t put a lot of credence in these silly predictions.
JVG doesn't like Pat Reilly and he is just putting them on the pedestal to fail
Its pretty obvious. The fact that he will look dumnb for saying this doesn’t matter to him because it will be great for his family as Miami fails to even get out of the conference. He knows it, his brother knows it
Miami doing this with their three amigos may be the best thing that could happen to Boston. Danny gets that he needs to complete the darn team a thought that never entered his mind the summer after we won the title, when he did nothing but less us get worse. Go overboard danny! Get Rudy! Get Sheed to come back too! Have fun LeRoid.
They'll win 60-65 games and lose whenever they play either us or Orlando in the playoffs.
Too many egos. Not enough basketballs.
And one to many messiahs.
It's a question of maturity.
The question is, have Wade and LeBron both reached the point where they can consistently make the personal sacrifices needed to win it all in a team setting? Some guys never reach that level of maturity.
It’s one thing for them to have (supposedly) made such sacrifices for a U.S. national team that only played for a short spell. It’s quite another to do it for a very long regular season and playoff run.
I’m assuming Bosh isn’t such an alpha-dog that he can’t defer to the interests of the team. But I’ve real doubts about Wade and LeBron; particularly LeBron.
The heat will win somewhere between 78 and 80 games, and they will win the championship by default since the other teams will be too afraid to step on the court against them. And then LeBron James, clad only in a loin cloth, will pick up Jeff Van Gundy in his huge muscular arms and sprint to the top of Mount Everest and hold up JVG like the baby lion in the Lion King, and LeBron will let out a victory scream so loud that it causes the sea levels to rise and all the birds to start chirping at the same time. And then Jeff Van Gundy will wake up in a puddle.
Double rainbow all the way
hes the same guy
who didnt think we would make it out the first round, had no shot against the cavs, were too old and tired against the magic, and wouldnt make it back to LA in the finals because the Lakers were too talented.
He could say that the Celtics wont make the playoffs and i wouldnt even tell him anything because he would be wrong again as he always his
Heat vs Celtics, Opening day of the season
October 26th…should be an epic match-up.
Of course the Heat’s Big 3 might stil not be fully clicking yet on their first game of the season, however they are one of the few teams in the league that are very capable of catching us off guard. It might prove to be a decent work-out seeing we now have a team with a younger version of a ‘Big 3’ in our conference.. or the Heat might end up getting the best of us, especially as the season progresses due to the age of our guys.
2.5 months away…
JVG's prediction is almost as funny as This:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slGmTABZtZ8
I like JVG, but this prediction is Hilarious!
June 2011 Cannot Come Soon Enough.
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