Adam Morrison Working Out for Celtics
Remember those Adam Morrison rumors that sprang up earlier in the summer that the majority of us scoffed at?Well, they're back.
From Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports:
Still searching for another shooter, the Boston Celtics have Adam Morrison(notes) working out for their front-office and coaching staffs this week at the team's practice facility, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.
Morrison worked out on Tuesday and planned to do so again on Wednesday, sources said.
The Celtics aren't close to deciding if they'll make any kind of make-good contract offer for training camp.
This is an interesting development, to say the least. The Celtics already have 17 players under contract, with three of those players working under non-guaranteed deals (Delonte West, Tony Gaffney, and Oliver Lafayette). Morrison stands at 6'8, which, if he did make the team, would give the Celtics another option at small forward behind Paul Pierce and Marquis Daniels. A lack of depth at small forward has been identified as a potential weakness for this current group, so perhaps that has spurred on this interest in Morrison.
UPDATE: Wojnarowski just tweeted that Morrison hasn't been the only one working out for the Celtics:
Celtics workouts over past two days have included Cuttino Mobley, Rashad McCants, Trenton Hassell and Adam Morrison, league source tells Y!
Trenton Hassell doesn't surprise me because of his reputation as a defender, and McCants has close ties with Kevin Garnett dating back to their Minnesota days (I'm not saying that's why he was invited to work out, just pointing it out). Mobley, however, surprises me, seeing as he was forced to retire from the New York Knicks in 2008 due to a serious heart condition (hypertrophic cardiomyopathy). Woj, however, tweeted that Mobley has been medically cleared to play.
Also, Roy Rogers is joining the Celtics' coaching staff, according to Wojnarowski's twitter:
Boston is hiring Nets assistant Roy Rogers to join Doc Rivers' staff, sources say. Rogers worked under Celts assistant Lawrence Frank in NJ.
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I don't get it.
Don’t we already have 17 players?
He is another non-guaranteed contract.
Teams always go into camp with more than 15 players under contract. If he earns a spot, we have another scorer.
by guava_wrench on Sep 15, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
also
it’s probably bad when every time he checked in during the playoffs, I was like… “YES!”.
But I suppose I felt that way about Shaq too, and I talked myself into that.
please no why?
if he makes the team, it means he can play – i know he rode the bench and hasn’t been much so far, but i’m game if danny thinks it’s the right thing to do -
Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk
Wow first Gaffney and know Morrison.
I think Danny and Doc has done a great job the last couple years. But they miss not to put to play and give a chance to Bill Walker another year ad some weight and a little more of playing is what he need last year.
Walker just didn't learn to play D.
He could score, we always knew that, and that’s all he’s proven in New York. He hasn’t done anything else. To play for the Celtics you have to learn and commit to the defensive system. He had 3 years to do that, and obviously didn’t do it well enough to earn Doc’s trust. There were minutes to be had, and he proved in practice he was capable of them, he didn’t.
Morrison I just don’t get, I just don’t see him making the team, but I guess a little more competition in camp ins’t a bad thing.
I wonder if that's still the case now without Thibodeau.
I hope so.
Morrison would have fit right in to a pre-Thibodeau Rivers defensive roster.
by Finkelskyhook on Sep 15, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Morrison
My guess is Von Wafer and his short money contract is a candidate to go along with West, Gaff, and Lafayette should they sign Morrison. He plays no defense but can shoot. Not sure he can help us more than Wafer or D-West.
Roy Rogers, Jr. Played for the Celtics back in 1998 or 99. He once blocked something like 11 shots in an NCAA game. I’d still like to see Dave Cowens replace Cliff Ray.
I do not think West is going anywhere. I predict the following 14 with Danny signing someone from the bunch mentioned in the article. That player will back up Pierce and Daniels will move to the slot behind the back up. . Erdin, Lafayette and Gaffney gone.
Rondo/Nate/Bradley
Allen/West/Von Wafer
JO/Shaq/Perk
KG/BBD
Pierce/Daniels/Harongody
If Bradley and Harangody develop quickly, like I suspect they will, then we have the best team by far 1 through 15.
So they're going to cut the guy with the 2 year, guaranteed deal?
I don’t think so.
The guys with the partially guaranteed deals are the ones that will be potentially cut, guys like Gaffney, Lafayette, West, or Wafer.
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Sep 15, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
If Perk were not injured I would surely agree with you, regardless of Erden's minimal contract.
And I know that Baby can play some center minutes in a pinch, but you don’t want to rely on that too much. So, for me, Perk’s injury is the only reason why Erden might make the squad. The money Danny paid for him was to get a look at him against NBA and wannabe NBA competition. He’s still expendable if Danny feels like someone else can help the team more. It’s a gamble going with only the ONeals at center (with Baby pulling spot duty), but to me, it’s a bit of a gamble having only Pierce and Daniels at the 3 too.
So which is the greater need, 3rd string center, or 3rd string SF? It’s a tough call, either way. Just betting on who’s less likely to be out with injury, I’d have to say PP, because he’s a bull and a workhorse, who’s rarely injured, while JO and Shaq seem a little more injury prone. At the end of the day, though, Erden has done nothing to suggest he needs to be on the team. Tough call for Danny to make.
doubleplusungoodthinker
Agree with you Mencius. I am leaning that SF needs the spot. It is a gamble with the potential that JO and Shaq may sit some games with injuries (or in the case of the latter, some legal problems). Tough spot for DA. My guess is that Morrison is signed. McCants is a good player but at 6’ 3", he does not give us the height we are looking for.
Cowens was coaching pisrons or wolves last season, may not be available, parish or mchale would work too
by Warrior Spirit on Sep 16, 2010 9:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Ya, which was ridiculous.
He was a fantastic college player though.
The guys got talent, but I just don’t know where his head is at. And if he can’t play D, which he never really has, I’d rather see Gaffney on the team.
He's gotten two consecutive camp invites and was a final cut for a team that won a championship.
That would be a signal to me that there are some people who think he can make it in this league, he’s just not quite there yet.
Yes.
But Morrison was already on a guaranteed deal, due to his high draft status in 06, he get a solid Rookie deal… and never earned a penny of it.
Morrison made 5.4mil last year (shocking, I know.) (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=nba&id=1254)
So, even if Gaffney was a lot better in that camp than him (he was) there was no way LA could get out from that contract to keep Gaffney.
Always liked his game....
I always liked his game, he used to kill the Cs right after he got drafted by the Bobcats, Larry Brown came to town and combined with and injury, his carreer turned bad. I hope he can find a home with the Cs.
AMMO....
This is funny. I’d rather have Adam Morrison with the potential to make our team than Sasha, though.
This will make for an interesting training camp, to say the least….
June 2011 Cannot Come Soon Enough.
by Celtics18and19 on Sep 15, 2010 11:55 AM EDT reply actions
Lol
I don’t see the point in complaining about this, one bit.
If he makes the team, then great, we have a backup SF. And honestly, I think we all know that the Celtics won’t put Morrison on the regular season roster unless he can help them win games, as opposed to being a “victory cigar”. At least, that’s how I see it.
If he doesn’t make the team…well, I assume he’s getting a non-guaranteed contract to training camp, so no loss to the Celtics.
Yeah, I agree, but...
… I’m also in agreement with LJ’s comment below, about the need for a defensive guy. I’m hoping that’s the main thing the coaching staff will focus on.
Totally agree with Tai
If we had traded the farm to move up in the draft to get him, I could see being pissed. But this is just a smart move by a smart GM.
by CelticPride on Sep 15, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Call me crazy (oaky go ahead Po)
Bu t don’t we need a lock down defender at the 3-spot in the mold of Posey, Allen or, uhmm, Artest?
by thereallargejames on Sep 15, 2010 12:01 PM EDT reply actions
I certainly think so.
But Danny has been loading up on offense this year, so this moves is in line with the move. No other way you sign guys like Shaq, defense be damned, they want to score.
I guess he’s relying on the defense of the starting five to be good enough to limit teams enough, that the second unit, just needs to score and keep pace. Or maybe he’s convinced that the Celtics can teach anyone to play Defense, something I’m not convinced of now that Tom T is gone.
I dunno, Morrison has some talent, no doubt. And maybe cocofan is right, just the wrong coaching and injuries have derailed his career. Maybe he will be motivated to learn the defense and prove he was worth his high draft pick. Who knows, I guess it’s worth a shot to give him a non-guaranteed deal, let him battle with Gaffney in camp, and see what happens.
Ok LJ I won't call you crazy ...you're smart.. just like Fredo
It ain’t the way I wanted it! I can handle things! I’m smart! Not like everybody says… like dumb… I’m smart and I want respect!
BTW – How are things Large – send me a message
Is it Soup Yet?
Haha. Nice
Poor Fredo.
doubleplusungoodthinker
isn't Morrison almost like the Lakers version of Scal?
though in that case, I remember Scal getting more playing time in these past NBA Finals than Morrison, who was at one point the leading scorer in the NCAA. The guy gets absolutely no playing-time on Kobe/Phil’s team…
I don't know how special Morrison is on offense
but if he doesn’t play defense right, Doc won’t use him.
Roy Rogers?
That’s not Roy Rogers, the former player, is it? Didn’t he have a short stint on the Celts?
what we really need is a shooting coach. someone to teach rondo how to shoot and teach half the team how to shoot FT’s.
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Sep 15, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Rogers to replace Clifford Ray?
I don’t know if Roy Rogers is a big man coach, but it seems as though he’ll be taking over cliff ray’s spot on the bench. It’s interesting to note that he worked under Lawrence Frank in NJ, and that they’ll be reunited here in Boston. Could it be that Lawrence Frank is already getting his men in preparation for taking over the C’s head coaching job once Doc is gone?
im all for it
what would it hurt to bring him into preseason as a see what happens kinda guy? we dont need lafayette so whats the point of keeping him? a 6’8 SF morrison has the height, we know he can shoot because he always kills us when he plays us. the only down side is he is kinda slow and it effects him on defense. maybe the coaching staff, style could help some, dont know. IMO though, worth a shot over lafayette
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Sep 15, 2010 12:53 PM EDT reply actions
So I guess Celtics didn't renew Clifford Ray contract so they could go out and get Roy Rogers Jr.?
I assume this is for Lawrence Frank building his own coaching staff when he takes over next year……

I had my picture taken with his Dad years ago…..I am on the left ….
Is it Soup Yet?
he won't survive the psychopath ^^(KG)
this guy is a weenie and not a man – If this guy plays for the Celtics, I’m no Fan anymore…
I don't care about Adam Morrison
He’s obviously not making the squad.
Rashad McCants, however, is a carbon copy of TA, except that he can hit 3s. He’s 6’4", with the strength to guard 3s and the quickness to guard 1s. He’d be a fine pick as the defensive stopper off the bench…
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Sep 15, 2010 1:32 PM EDT reply actions
If McCants was half the player Tony Allen is,
He wouldn’t be working out for teams…He’d already be on one.
by Finkelskyhook on Sep 15, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually
McCants is without a team because he’s not always been the best teammate. He tends to pout and act out when he doesn’t get playing time, traits which blackballed him in the NBA last season. Supposedly, he’s grown up since then.
But judged strictly on talent, McCants is a DEFINITE NBA player.
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Sep 15, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed.
Just not sure there’s room for him on this team. KG really likes him, so maybe he could beat out Wafer.
Going to be a battle in training camp this year between Gaffney, Lafayette, and whatever of those 4 guys they end up inviting. That’s for sure. Should be interesting to see what happens.
You've probably never watched him play...
McCants can do all the things TA does on defense, yet attitudinal problems and stubbornness have gotten in the way. He’s got all the physical tools, it’s just a matter of maturity…just like it was with TA.
Unlike TA, McCants is pretty comfortable shooting the ball.
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Sep 15, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Right, and pretty uncomfortable playing defense. I can flip your argument around and say that TA shooting the ball like McCants is just a matter of practise. Except it wouldn’t ever matter, because TA will never develop an outside shot, and McCants will never develop into a perimeter defender. They are both what they are, and nothing alike other than the identical height.
Like I said...
You’ve probably never watched him play and you probably shouldn’t comment so voraciously on someone you really haven’t seen that much of. I realize this is the Internet where anything is possible, but, yeah, you’re not fooling anyone.
Part of McCants’ appeal is that he has the body and athleticism to guard the 1-3 spots, while being a scorer/shooter and a matchup problem on the other end. He’s never put it all together, part of that were the attitude problems, and the other part was being on bad Timberwolves teams. Now, with an improved attitude, and possibly being apart of a team where he’ll only play if he defends, you can bet he’ll bring the defense. The question is whether his attitude really has improved and whether the Cs will give him a shot to prove in in training camp.
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Sep 15, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I realize Ainge is looking for more shooting
But I would have hoped that they’d be 3’s with legit size. Slim pickings for free agents though.
Wonder why Bobby Simmons career went in the toilet. He was pretty good when on the Clips.
Other guys with better size that interest me: James Singleton and Jarvis Hayes. I remember when Hayes first came into the league, he seemed like a legit player in Washington.
Oh, well. I have no problem with bringing in Morrison on a make good sort of contract.
Maybe we could bring in lottery bust Joe Alexander and they could battle it out for the coveted mascot spot. I’m not counting Luke because he seems legit.
doubleplusungoodthinker
Singleton went to China, and apparently Hayes is looking overseas, too...
I’m not sure if that’s because they couldn’t land a contract here, or because the money is better elsewhere.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
Thanks for the update
I was going off a list of free agents that was apparently not up to date.
doubleplusungoodthinker
In terms of camp, the more the merrier...
I’d lean toward Wafer and Delonte over any of the above, I think, but it doesn’t hurt to have warm bodies.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
I don’t even think Wafer is camp fodder, he seems to be guaranteed. If past camps are any indications of how this will go, those guys will be competing with West for the 15th spot — and West’s got the upper hand there, too.
I think his contract is only $150k guaranteed...
And Danny told him that if there was any issue with his attitude, he’d be cut. You may be right, though, that his spot is more secure than the others’.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
Actually, I don’t pretend to know details. All this guaranteed/nonguaranteed stuff has been getting very confusing, and the as-per-policy-no-terms-have-been-disclosed stance of the team doesn’t make it any better.
I thought Erden and Wafer were guaranteed, and West’s contract was conditional on his medical condition, but I’ve seen so many different reports that I wouldn’t put any money on either.
In any case, anyone who can guard SFs will be very hard to cut, and Wafer is the closest to this description in the lot.
Erden's deal I've heart conflicting reports on.
Some say 1 year guaranteed, 1 year team option. Some day two years guarantee, not really sure.
I know Wafer’s deal is only 150k guarantee though, so he’d be a relatively inexpensive cut, if one of the camp invites (Gaffney, Lafayette, Morrison, etc…) really impresses and wins out the spot. West’s contract as far as I know is fully non-guaranteed, but becomes guaranteed at a certain date (not sure when, but it’s insurance in case he has another episode early on.)
And by your last sentence, Gaffney would be the closest to that description. Unfortunately saying the word “raw” to describe his offensive game, would be a hell of an understatement. I’m fully 100% confident that he’s easily the best SF defender of that group though, and really it’s not close.
I mean between McCants, West, and Wafer. Gaffney and Laffayete. Gaffney was so underwhelming in summer league, even defensively, that I am convinced that heof ’s not any sort of an NBA contributor at this stage of his career.
Really?
I thought he was very good defensively. He went up against the top wing player on the opposing team every game. Look what Turner did against him… Gaffney ate him up.
He wasn’t dominant at all through the summer, but I thought he showed some good stuff, at least defensively.
Know your enemy
You can’t discount that Morrison has spent 2 years with the Lakers. He has to be able to provide some Intel on them.
So true
You’re correct, because AMMO’s secret behind the scenes knowledge regarding Kobe’s favorite flavor of Gatorade and when to throw him a towel after a TO will finally give the C’s the advantage they need to beat L.A.’s starting 5.
by TheLogo44 on Sep 15, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Random Thoughts
Sizzlack says that Morrison is “worth a shot.” I’d say he’s worth an insulin shot. Maybe Morrison is in the career reclamation mode and needs to prove something but there’s nothing in his past that says he would commit to D. I believe Scal is a better defender. If McCants can play any D I’d go with him. As far as Mobley is concerned, spoonerize his last name. Finally, PO, check this out:
by thereallargejames on Sep 15, 2010 4:14 PM EDT reply actions
I don't disagree with that.
And honestly, there’s at least 4 guys right now I’d rather take over Morrison. Wafer, Gaffney, McCants, or even Lafayette (I love his game, he just doesn’t fit any need on the team right now, so really has no chance.)
All I was saying, is there was a reason he went number 3 in the draft in 06, there’s a reason he was so good at Gonzaga. The guy can score, there’s no question. IF (and it’s a giant IF) he ever learned to play defense, he really could be a very good player in this league. So as the 15th guy on the roster, well, I wouldn’t exactly be calling for Danny and Doc’s heads if they took that chance.
Yep
Everyone knows Danny is a dumb s….. If he’d only read our comments and do as we tell him…all would be ok.
On the flip side
He won’t be taking up any major interview time:
Glad Danny knows we need another SF
I see Morrison as a POB guy, high draft pick, bust, goes somewhere where people get excited and say he can turn his career around, then is still a bust.
I would like to see more of a defensive SF, because right now I have a feeling we’ll be missing TA’s D.
Both of them did.
Roy was a throw-in in the deal that got us Kenny Anderson, but only played in 9 games for the Cs that season.
And I'm glad someone answered it.
My memory had me all confused
Ya, it's this guy.
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/roy_rogers/index.html
Short stint in 97, played 9 games.
don't like any of them
I want a Tony Allen defensive type swing man
Why didn't you just say
You wanted Tony Allen back? I mean, not to say that’s gonna happen, but there’s only one Tony Allen. : )
That's true.
Noone can be so mind numbingly infuriating to watch like Tony Allen. There really is only one.
Lets all just forget about Tony
and focus on finding somebody 4 inches taller that can actually shoot a jump shot, AND defend.
Well, 6'8 SFs who can shoot, play that kind of defense, and are athletic.
Don’t make 3mil a year, and certainly don’t come off the bench. That’s like saying we can get a guy who’s as good as Paul Pierce, to play back up, at small money.
Not going to happen. Buttom line is for the money the Celtics are going to pay a back up SF (which will be a vet min most likely) the player is going to be flawed. No player with size, length, athleticism, defensive ability and shooting touch, plays for 1.7mil.
It's true he's not a shooter. but we do have a 6'8" SF who plays defense and is athletic.
It’s Gaffney.
I’ll keep saying it until he’s cut, Gaffney might be kept over Wafer, Morrison, McCants or any of the rest.

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