Shaq's big night takes the Celtics past the Bobcats
Shaq had his best game of the year tonight. 21 points and 5 rebounds in 36 minutes. The Celtics needed all of his activity because Semih Erden the only other healthy Celtic center was completely ineffective and collected 5 fouls in 9 minutes.
I don't love Shaq having to play so many minutes, he's far too old to be asked to shoulder such a large burden very often.
Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, and Rajon Rondo all put in their customary solid nights. Pierce did so despite serious foul trouble of his own. If the bench wasn't completely ineffective in the first half this game wouldn't have been so close late. The bench ended the game with a paltry nine points.
Charlotte played better than they usually do against the Celtics but ultimately they just couldn't score enough to hang with the Celtics, despite having a big advantage in field goal attempts, turnovers, offensive rebounds, and free throw attempts.
When the game was won: in a very short stretch Ray Allen drained two threes and Rondo decided he wanted to get in on the action and hit a three pointer of his own.
Late in the game we saw some hack-a-Rondo fortunately he draining three of four free throws. The Bobcats hit a couple of shots late to make the game seem a little closer. Overall a very good win for the C's, the Bobcats were on a nice winning streak.
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Good win!
Just saw the results on yahoo online box score. Good win to go into next week. That’s the diff between the C’s and Heat; the C’s do more with less.
Fill that huge tub with lotsa ice for the Diesel...
…we will need him for the revenge game vs. the Magic
+1
SO has been so valuable for us this year! Now we just need to get some payback on Orlando
Well it was not easy but it was a win.
All around good team effort.
Ray had another strong shooting night .
Shaq gets the game ball though tonight.
The best aspect of the win was to see Shaq contribute so well as he was very active tonight with 5 blocks and gave the C’s a strong presence offensively in the paint.
Nice way to head into the big game with Orlando on Monday.
Not to be negative, but the bench was terrible on the offensive end
Daniles, however, did well on the defensive end, and Gody was not bad either. He also grabbed 4 rebounds. Nate contines his trend of shooting well mainly in the fourth quarter of blowout games, as he really could not find the ocean tonight.
Don't expect to get that from Shaq every night - but it's great to have it when we really need it!
Boy did we need a good game from the Diesel going into tonight and boy did he deliver.
Ray continues to be the hottest shooter on the planet.
Rondo really gets up when there is an opposing stud PG. Great job of running the show and keeping all the starters involved. Shaq, Ray & Paul all scored 19+ and he put 18 of his own in the bucket.
Ditto what wisco87 said about the bench. I think the bench used up an excess of their karma in the Kings game and just didn’t have much tonight.
Although Daniels looked smooth again. Is he like a cat, prowling around out there? I swear I don’t think I’ve ever seen any guy as skinny as he is who looks that at easy twisting and curving through bodies under the basket.
Just curious
…are points 1-4 and 5 your opinion? Or fact? If the former, didn’t you say we should identify our opinions as such?
if any are remotely points of contention, then yes I should clarify - these are simply opinions.
Point 4 is qualified with ‘I think’.
This is the principle reason why Shaq should continue to start
Please don’t take this to be an ultra-over-reaction to a good game by Shaq. First, what Shaq did last night is never (and should never) be Perk’s game. More importantly, I keep hearing how Shaq could provide the same offensive punch for the bench. This is not necessarily true because Shaq has shown that his best play is with the starters. I don’t think it would automatically translate the way others do. To get the most out of both Shaq and Perk—keep Shaq w/ the starters and let Perk anchor the 2nd units defense.
Speaking of Shaq and Kwame
the 1992 #1 pick outplayed (by far) the 2001 #1 pick…in 2011. Says a lot about both of them
#1 LBJ and A-Rod and Dez fan
Haters gonna hate.
Not exactly!
A lot of teams considered signing shaq, but he choose to sign with the c’s because he felt he could get a ring.
by KWW on Jan 15, 2011 12:08 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think Shaq had 23 points...not 21
Nice win today. Can’t wait for Monday
by WikedCeltsFan7 on Jan 14, 2011 10:21 PM EST reply actions
Solid second half.
After a listless first half the Celtics turned it on and took control in the second half.
Shaq obviously was outstanding on both ends tonight. Ray was hitting his shots and really should have gotten more looks. Rondo was a great floor general tonight offensively and grabbed key rebounds. He still needs to work on defending off screens though as too often he goes around and tries for the quick steal, which left Augustin open several times for jumpers or drives in the lane.
The Bobcats hung around mostly due to their offensive rebounding, they got multiple chances on several possessions as the Celtics were trying to pull away. It seems like Luke is the only Celtic who at least tries to box out and hustle for the rebound even though he doesn’t get to many of them. Love the hustle and energy of Luke just not sure how successful he will be in the NBA. He is too slow to defend athletic forwards and too small to be inside. One of his biggest assets is supposed to be his shooting but most nights he isn’t even close on his wide open attempts.
A note on Big Baby, he was solid tonight and passed up long jumpers a couple times which was nice to see. It’s weird though because lately he appears to be playing with zero emotion. Doc must have talked to him because he never seems to smile or get excited, however he also isn’t complaining about fouls as often either so I guess it’s a trade off.
Overall a gutty win against an improved Charlotte team. C’s finally get 2 days off to get ready for Orlando. Hopefully KG will be ready…
Hope they don't get rusty having so much time off
This will be the first time in several weeks that they have a full three whole days in between games- time to rest, and time to have a genuine practice or even two.
The bench barely managed to hang in there tonight, and Nate’s shot is just not falling. Erden seemed lost and was foul prone.
Fortunately all the starters came up big- kudos to the Big Shamrock for a huge game- 23pts.-5 rebs. and FIVE blocks.
Ray Allen broke the game open in the 4th with back to back 3s and Rondo added the next one to demoralize the Cats- it was all over but the shouting after that.
Some really bad calls were made against the Cs for parts of the game, but they balanced out somewhat by the end of the match.
Hopefully KG will be back against Orlando- he’ll really be needed.
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Erden was playing with a sore groin
which probably is why he looked a half step slow – which will result in getting called for fouls, usually.
I will say that 2 of the foul calls on him looked very much like ‘hang it on the rookie’ calls.
You might be being too charitable to Erden.
He looked pretty bad, but I would like to think it was because he was playing hurt. But that’s the way it can be with rookies. A lot of inconsistency, and dumb fouls. Like a veteran that’s been hanging around for awhile, Nazr Mohammed seemed to know just how and when to shove Erden around under the basket. Hopefully, Erden will benefit from all this experience he’s getting.
Agree on the fouls, the injuries
The foul called on him when he and a Hornet were both at midcourt, running back to the basket and collided side to side, was really bad. It could of gone either way but shouldn’t have been called at all.
On injuries, I’ve read he has the groin, the shoulder and the thumb, with the shoulder requiring surgery eventually.
know were injured but
34 minutes for shaq is to many, we cant afford to have him go down too.
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Jan 14, 2011 10:42 PM EST reply actions
Its only one game.
Once in a while is not going to kill the big fella. He and Doc had a little signal thing going on when to pull him out for a breather and when to put him back in for more.
But yeah – we don’t want to have to depend on that again and again.
huge game
for the huge daddy….making 10 of 12 field goals and doing perfectly from the free throw line…….hack a shaq anyone??? hmmmm
The Big Suds delivers.
Shaq was brilliant tonight.
Gotta say, I’m surprised the Bobs had won 4 in a row (including one over da Bulls), 6 of 8 coming in. They looked pretty bad at times, just throwing the ball into the stands. Not fouling with about 15 seconds left was also a little dumbfounding. I know Ray had the ball, but he did miss his last FT…
Also of note
Rondo played more aggressively tonight, and really seemed dedicated to making Augustin work for most everything (well except a couple late threes; not sure how the team defense came into play on those).
And this may not be of note, but am I the only one who thinks Boris Diaw and Evan Turner look like the same guy (well except that Turner is about half the size)? I feel like this is something people have noticed before…
Shaq finds the fountain of youth
Great game for the big guy and Rondo had things totally under control tonight. Nice effort, and they won despite the fact that the Bobcats spent the entire game at the foul line. Ray was on fire and if Pierce was not in foul trouble he probably would have had 30.
Ray was on fire - is right.
Over the last few weeks, Ray has been shooting ridiculous numbers.
So far in the month of January, his overall FG% is 60.6%.
Even more ridiculous, during that time his 3PT% is 70%!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, that’s right. Ray is shooting even better from beyond the arc than within it!
I guess he can just feel it as he gets closer and closer to Reggie’s mark.
For the season, Ray is shooting 47% from 3PT land. For guys who’ve launch 150+ from beyond the arc, only Bibby has a higher %. Ray might pass him soon if he keeps up his current pace.
And Nate in January...
Ice.
Overall FG% .383
3-pt FG% .321
Wafer?
.413, .272.
Poor Doc!
by nba is the worst on Jan 15, 2011 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
SEATS FOR SOLDIERS NIGHT!
What a night for soldiers, we can’t thank them enough,
Tonight the Cs showed them some special stuff:
Let’s talk extraordinary numbers—a list with no end,
How about Baby’s huge block against his childhood friend!
Big Shamrock, Big Consultant, or just plain Shaq,
His game tonight was a real throwback:
Three for three free throws, points twenty-three,
Three rebounds, five blocks, two assists had he.
Rondo was sensational; with foul trouble Pierce, too,
Marquis, Nate, Luke, Semih—can’t do it without you.
When you think “beautiful” you must think of Ray,
From Reggie’s record he’s now thirty-one away!
An aside about Silas, from the Cavs he was fired,
By his neighbor’s 13 year olds’ team he was quickly “hired.”
He coached them in the finals—they did not win.
Now the Bobcats’ coach—thought he’d never get back in!
GO GREEN!
anvildr@aol.com
by mycelts on Jan 14, 2011 11:47 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Hang in there Semih
You’ve got game. Just keep practicing and continue to get in better shape. I’m sorry Boston doesn’t have good Turkish food (Turkish food is awesome) but just keep your head in the game and listen to Doc. Do not listen to the negative reports about you. You are doing well.
by thereallargejames on Jan 14, 2011 11:54 PM EST reply actions
What was great about Shaq's night was not the win
… but the proof he provided tonight that he CAN put in this kind of performance, when called upon. The Cs may well need him to do this again before the playoffs are over this year. It’s great to know he’s got it in him.
Of course, we needed Shaq to do this because the refs were just terrible tonight, again. I do NOT believe (as some do) that the refs have it in for the Cs. But man, it sure feels that way sometimes. (Maybe that’s because they tend to give the shaft to good teams more often than bad ones?) Cs got loaded up with fouls in the first 3 periods — many of them bad calls (including at least 2 each on Semih and Shaq). But the refs partly/sorta evened it out in the last 5-6 minutes by turning on the Cats for a change. Is this REALLY the best the NBA can do??
Most amazing thing about the game: How Ray was able to score 19, including 4-6 from deep, EVEN THOUGH the Bobcats had a clear game plan to hang on him like stink on manure… to the point where the refs COULD have called a foul on almost every possesion. Ray is super-hot now. Please Ray, PLEASE do this in the spring too. You’ll still have motivation: you’ll be shooting to put that 3-point record so far out of reach, it’ll NEVER be broken, ever.
I don’t believe the refs specifically target the C’s. I don’t think it’s malicious. But the Celtics offense isn’t designed to generate fouls because of the ball movement. And calls away from the ball just don’t happen very much in the game, even though they can be called frequently. And now that a player can get T’d for pointing out the refs screwed him . . . . Well, the system needs work is all I’m saying.
Sometimes glass glitters more than diamonds because it has more to prove.
Shaq look like a teenager
God game by the big guy, TG Davis stop shooting from outside, good W, now let’s beat Orlando.
An Heroic Performance
This was an heroic performance by Shaq. All he had to do was say he couldn’t play because of fatique or physical problems and Doc would have given him the night off. In Shaq’s post-game interview with Dickerson he said that Doc told him to just point at him and he’d take him out for a rest.
Shaq, knowing the situation, instead played 35 good minutes. At times he looked tired, but he stayed in. At times he beat younger players down the floor.
With other teams Shaq often didn’t play at the end of games and rarely received the ball if he did. Now the opposite is happening. The relationship between Doc and Shaq shows what talking and listening can do for a team. This started before Shaq signed and was the reason given by Shaq that he chose to come here. I think Shaq is enjoying the game more than ever with this team.
As an aside, it looks like JO won’t help us surgery or not.
Perk is going to be put under the gun when he returns. But it takes a year or so to recover from his injury. Perk and Doc and Ed Lacerte will need to be real careful. It looks like Perk and Shaq will be our two Centers at season’s end. Semih didn’t look good last nite and I thought he didn’t move well because of his groin injury. I think he can help the team, but they also need to let that injury heal. Semih also seems to be a warrior.
"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
"Criminally Negligent Officiating"--Tommy Heinsohn
Shaq...
adds the scoring punch that Perk lacks. He can catch the ball down low and know what to do with it. He can either score or dish it out when he is triple teamed. When Perk comes back, I hope to see Shaq play some 4.
"I've got a theory that if you give 100% all of the time, somehow things will work out in the end."
--- Larry Bird
by Army_of_One_Nation(Celtic's Nation) on Jan 15, 2011 11:35 AM EST reply actions
SEATS FOR SOLDIERS NIGHT
SEATS FOR SOLDIERS NIGHT
What a night for soldiers, we can’t thank them enough,
Tonight the Cs showed them some special stuff:
Let’s talk extraordinary numbers—a list with no end,
How about Baby’s huge block against his childhood friend!
Big Shamrock, Big Consultant, or just plain Shaq,
His game tonight was a real throwback:
Three for three free throws, points twenty-three,
Three rebounds, five blocks, two assists had he.
Rondo was sensational; with foul trouble Pierce, too,
Marquis, Nate, Luke, Semih—can’t do it without you.
When you think “beautiful” you must think of Ray,
From Reggie’s record he’s now thirty-one away!
An aside about Silas, from the Cavs he was fired,
By his neighbor’s 13 year olds’ team he was quickly “hired.”
He coached them in the finals—they did not win.
Now the Bobcats’ coach—thought he’d never get back in!
GO GREEN!
anvildr@aol.com































