Otis Smith: Boston Celtics Are Fake Tough
by Jay_King on Jan 19, 2011 10:25 AM EST
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PrintThe Celtics are used to having their toughness challenged. Quentin Richardson called them actresses. Udonis Haslem preferred the term studio gangster. Everywhere the Celtics go, it seems, people challenge their manhood and claim the C's aren't as big and bad as they pretend.
The latest accusation comes from a man who doesn't even play in the NBA, though he used to. Otis Smith, Orlando's GM, made the following remarks about the Celtics' perceived toughness: (Orlando Sentinel)
"Sentinel: Is the team tougher now?
Smith: Tough is relative. Tough to who? Is anybody tough?
Sentinel: One could argue the Celtics are tough.
Smith: They act tough. They're not really tough. They act tough."
What Otis Smith -- and Richardson, and Haslem, and anybody else who has questioned the Celtics' toughness -- fails to grasp, is that this is basketball. This isn't a boxing match, where toughness is determined by which person knocks the other out. This isn't a UFC fight, where toughness is determined by who can withstand the most punches and kicks and elbows, and still keep brawling. This isn't a football game, where toughness is often determined by who hits and hits the hardest. This isn't a rooster showdown, where whoever crows louder wins. This is basketball, where it's not only illegal to fight but also unnecessary.
To call the Celtics fake tough guys is to believe they should do more than play with a chip on their shoulders. As if they should play with a gun holstered to their hip each night, or should use a vicious left hook to level the first person who challenges them, or should tackle foes in the middle of the paint just for fun. As if toughness in basketball is measured by something other than execution. As if toughness in basketball is measured by something far more sinister.
If Otis Smith thinks toughness should be measured by "number of opponents knocked out," well, then I guess he has a point. If that's the only measurement, the Celtics aren't very tough, because they don't often throw haymakers at their opponents. (Although Nate Robinson once bodyslammed the bejesus out of J.R. Smith, though I digress.) But fights are not what toughness in basketball is all about, and it bothers me when people think they are.
A long while back, Jay Bilas described what toughness entails, offering the best definition of basketball toughness I've ever come across. As you can imagine, Bilas never once mentioned, "A tough basketball player needs a strong roundhouse kick."
I have heard the word "toughness" thrown around a lot lately. Reporters on television, radio and in print have opined about a team or player's "toughness" or quoted a coach talking about his team having to be "tougher" to win.
Then, in almost coordinated fashion, I would watch games and see player upon playerthumping his chest after a routine play, angrily taunting an opponent after a blocked shot, getting into a shouting match with an opposing player, or squaring up nose-to-nose as if afight might ensue. I see players jawing at each other, trying to "intimidate" other players.What a waste of time. That is nothing more than fake toughness, and it has no real value. ...
When I faced a tough opponent, I wasn't worried that I would get hit -- I was concerned that I would get sealed on ball reversal by a tough post man, or that I would get boxed out on every play, or that my assignment would sprint the floor on every possession and get something easy on me.
The toughest guys I had to guard were the ones who made it tough on me.Toughness has nothing to do with size, physical strength or athleticism. Some players may be born tough, but I believe that toughness is a skill, and it is a skill that can be developed and improved. Michigan State coach Tom Izzo always says, "Players play, but tough players win."
So no, KG's screams designed to intimidate opponents and/or fire himself up aren't toughness. Toughness is when KG sees Jameer Nelson turn to throw an underhanded pass to Jason Richardson, anticipates the ball's path, and ultimately busts his rump to steal it.
Toughness isn't Paul Pierce jawing with his defender, or throwing up gang signs, or whatever else Pierce's competitive spirit has led him to do. Toughness is when Pierce takes his time to work a defender into Pierce's sweet spot, even though the defender knows exactly what's coming.
Toughness isn't when Ray Allen brings a gun into the locker room and threatens to shoot a teammate -- wait, wrong guy. Toughness is when Allen sprints around screens all day long, but still finds it within himself to use those screens perfectly one last time, opening himself for a late-game corner three-pointer in the process.
Toughness isn't when Kendrick Perkins scowls, or when he berates referees. Toughness is when Perkins plays Dwight Howard with a single team, contests the shot with his proper hand, and then turns to box out and grab the rebound.
Toughness isn't when Rajon Rondo squares off with Kirk Hinrich. It's when Rondo chases down that loose ball you didn't think he possibly could.
Should the Celtics stop throwing errant elbows and talking so much trash? Perhaps, and though most of you here are Celtics fans, I would even say probably (and that probably leans heavily toward "yes"). The Celtics, in the eyes of opposing teams, players, fans and apparently even GMs, stretch the boundaries of on-court antics. They play physical, chippy basketball, and they do it with a scowl on their faces, and they're more likely to cuss in your face a million straight times than they are to speak one respectful word.
So I understand why people call these Celtics fake tough guys. The talk just misses the point, entirely.
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Otis Smith is a loser.
The Once and Future King
by FlaGators on Jan 19, 2011 10:30 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Took the words out of my mouth.
>>>-----------;;;-->"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit 'em in the mouth, and they don't like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that's what we started out with.'' - Nick Moody >>>-----------;;;-->
Probably frustrated Otis talking
Once Perk is back and we give hard time to Dwight to score, he’ll change his mind. I don’t see how Orlando can beat us in 7 games with a full and healthy roster (besides JO). Remember Otis that C’s are a different animal in playoff time.
Kudos!
Good article JKing and I totally agree. True toughness isn’t the portrayal of strength, but the difficulty it takes for opponents to guard or score on you.
I do think there's a physical element to toughness, though...
You saw it in 2008 when we played the Lakers. We physically manhandled them, and the more finesse Lakers couldn’t adjust. The Celtics foul a lot, and make people pay for driving the lane. Basically, after playing a game against the Celts, opposing players know it, because they’re physically worn out.
Powe, Allen, Posey, and Brown were all parts of this toughness that have left, but I still think we’re a physical, imposing team.
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I agree that there's a physical element involved
… But more than that, I think that certain teams have a mental toughness about them. This is not MMA or Sumo wrestling. Thankfully they’ve changed the rules to make this the game of skill that it was always supposed to be. The way the Pistons and then the Knicks of the late 80s, early 90s played was brutal to watch, and in my view, not what the sport was intended to be.
Otis doesn’t get it. Toughness is more mental than physical. Howard is a dirty player. I believe to this day that he was trying to hurt people with his elbows in last year’s playoffs. He’s a big phony, in the same way that Isiah Thomas was, with their big Cheshire grins masking their thuggish inclinations.
The Celtics are a mentally tough team, and that’s where we are much tougher than the Magic. Otis is clueless.
The beatings will continue until morale improves.
by Mencius on Jan 19, 2011 10:57 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It's a setup
Otis Smith is just trying to get into the Celtics players’ heads, but it won’t work.
A lock down Celtics team defense is tough- the trash talking is just for effect
Players are tough in basketball when they are able to work as a co-ordinated team, and provide solid team work in lock down defense, as the Celticss provide, almost game in and game out. The trash talk is just for effect- if opposing players are intimidated by it, more power to us.
This applies to offense as well, and there are none better than the Cs, who are shooting a league leading 50+ % as a team.
The individuals may be great, but it’s as a team that they excell; in the Cs case, the whole is indeed greater than the sum of its parts.
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Hey Otis stop talking nonsense
why don’t trade half of your team again trying to be thougher.
of all the fluff teams with fluff GM's
I don’t care who thinks we are tough, Orlando just surrounded Dwight with a bunch of punk 3 point shooters, and you want to talk about tough? Settling for jumpers as a game plan is not good basketball, thats why the Magic will never win a championship because of if you live by it, you die by it.
Win a championship then you may speak about tough.
Toughness isn't when Ray Allen brings a gun into the locker room and threatens to shoot a teammate -- wait, wrong guy.
that was gold, baby
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Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk
by mcpu40 on Jan 19, 2011 10:49 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
One-liner of week!
Rec’d.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
Studio Intelligent !
Too Funny. Heck Stan Van Gundy took the hardest shot from KG last year in the playoffs he is the only Magic team member to have a insight.
If you are going to Eagle, Colorado just get a massage.
you know, it isn't about the Magic-Celtics but about Smith-Ainge
dude
Getting Cater and letting Hedo walk isn’t tough
Trading for Arenas after a bad injury and reputation isn’t tough
Reducing your jumpshooting team to 1 big and 2 3/4bigs isn’t tough
Most importantly, that picture above shows how tough you are
It's about 2012
He wants to make sure Dwight doesn’t come to the Celtics.
by 1sport1team on Jan 19, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
Good article Jay
“Proof is the Pudding”…we’ll see who standing in the end
I hated Michael Jordon but he was very tough mentally….and he got the job done but he was never a physical “fighter”.
I think you can trash talk as long you consistently “own somebody” but as soon they own you, then you only look like a fool to trash talk.
I think, so far anyway, we can trash talk, keep winning, and Dwight Howard can keep on grinning……
Is it Soup Yet?
we need to beat his team again
maybe he’ll change his mind, oh who cares what this clown thinks, go hide behind the crowd to see your team play, tough guy.
Tough is trying to explain why you paid R. Lewis 122 million
Or why you traded for wince Carter.
"They don't buy all those banners at Woolworths."
-- Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, on all the championship banners at Boston Garden
by Brett Szabo on Jan 19, 2011 11:04 AM EST via mobile reply actions
and taking Arenas contract
Now he is stuck with this tread for many years paying him a fortune to seat mos of the time on the bench, tough decisions.
by greenSanDiego on Jan 19, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
You mean Gilbert "Quickly becoming the worst contract in the NBA" Arenas?
What a steal!
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
I think toughness is two parts:
Part I – Physical
Will your body to keep going when its hard, to do more than is comfortable. E.g Paul Pierce getting his teeth knocked out and coming back.
Part II – Mental
The toughness to persevere through the challenges to your spirit – Ray Allen keeps shooting even when in a slump, BBD gets yelled at by KG or Doc, and uses it to get better rather than down and out.
And my first thought at reading the quote: “Otis Smith is fake good GM” – which I’m glad to see was used better above. :)
the toughest players the Magic have is Redick.
JJ is the only player that sticks to his man ALL game. Ray has to work harder against Redick than anyone else in the league. Turk is a foul/hack machine, and Dwight is just a dirty player. Being Strong does not = being tough. Fouling a lot does not = tough. Concussing players does not = tough. Playing hard and having your head in the game every possession ….. THAT is tough.
I think this guy is jelous of our chemestry (toughnes) as a team
we are not trading half of our team around the NBA.
A different view
When I think of toughness, I think of the ability to play when having more then a mini hurt. Think of Bird with his bad back. Bird coming off the floor after a near concussion. Or how about McHale playing on a broken foot in the playoffs against the Lakers?
Think what Shaq said a few days ago. Something like “in the playoffs, I’d just say shoot me up and I’ll go”.
BTW, thinking in the context of Shaq’s comment above, unless it’s really a severe sprain, a sprained ankle is just a mini hurt. Ditto a sore knee.
(Unless it’s MY sprained ankle or knee, but then I never said I was tough)
Otis Smith???
This coming from a non-hall of fame player!
Otis Smith -- and Richardson, and Haslem?
Three non-factor players in the league for more than 10+ years on their belts.
great article
I would ask the Orlando Magic GM a question. If the Celtics don’t meet his definition of toughness, then what team out-hustled, out-played, and got through the the next round of the playoffs last year? If the Celtics aren’t tough, then how would he describe a team who was flustered by the inside presence of an on his last leg Rasheed Wallace, not to mention Perk and a less than healthy KG? Sure, the C’s have bravado. Sure, they trash talk. What good athlete doesn’t? It is a shame when basketball does turn into a street brawl. And I don’t know who I’d bet on if the game was decided by throwing punches. But the last time I checked, this team didn’t invent nor will they be the last to use bravado and loud trash talk to gain an advantage over a team. It’s up to the other team to keep their composure (yes that’s you Orlando) and to meet bravado with some of their own.
Otis, this is toughness.
Celtics:
Championships 17 (1957, 1959, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1968, 1969, 1974, 1976, 1981, 1984, 1986, 2008)
Conference titles 21 (1957, 1958, 1959, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1968, 1969, 1974, 1976, 1981, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1987, 2008, 2010)
Division titles 19 (1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1991, 1992, 2005, 2008, 2009, 2010)
Orlando Magic:
Championships 0
Conference titles 2 (1995, 2009)
Division titles 5 (1995, 1996, 2008, 2009, 2010)
they won ECF because we didn't have Garnet
But otherwise nobody would be talking about a team never been in the finals (and made a ridiculous series)
Yes, clearly toughness is.
Only making the finals when your opponent is missing it’s most important player, and then getting thoroughly and completely obliterated by the Lakers.
Clearly, Boston should aspire to that kind of toughness.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
Once I got over my initial anger ...
I sort of understood where Otis Smith is coming from. And Jay King as well — nicely written article. I have thought from time to time the Celtics strut around and jaw and throw an elbow more than they should. There’s swagger, and there’s silliness, and one of the byproducts of this otherwise awesome era has been that walking the fine line. So Smith has a point.
But, and here’s a big one, I LOVE his initial response to the original question, which is to say he doesn’t answer the basic question of whether the Magic are tougher. Because best I can tell, they’re not — in all the ways described in Jay’s (and Bilas’) writing. So while I do think the Celtics act a little tougher than they are, the Magic are not tougher thant hey were, and the Celtics are tougher than the Magic.
And until the Magic can prove otherwise — particular in a playoff series — that’s the way it’ll stand.
Tough teams get rebounds
Maybe that is what Otis means. The Celtics do not box out. They have way too much beef in the middle to be bringing up the rear of the league in rebounding year after year. And don’t tell me Perk is back soon. They were even more awful last year when they had Perk.
Otis Smith acts like a good GM.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
Otis has a chip on his shoulder.
Clearly he’s bitter about the loss, and the previous defeats to other teams. He’s concerned because teams such as the Celtics, Heat, and Bulls are surging in the rankings and standings. Otis made a gamble when traded a majority of players for new players. I guess he figured when he got a victory over the Spurs and Celtics, the Magic was back and going to rule the entire league, but that wasn’t the case. Understand that anyone can lose or be defeated. It’s apart of sports in general.
I didn’t realize the Celtics or any team can act tough that must be something new? The toughness was based on determination and the hunger to when, not being physical with other teams.
Build your team's resume like this, then come and talk, Oti!
Celtics:
Championships 17 (1957, 1959, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1968, 1969, 1974, 1976, 1981, 1984, 1986, 2008)
Conference titles 21 (1957, 1958, 1959, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1968, 1969, 1974, 1976, 1981, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1987, 2008, 2010)
Division titles 19 (1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1991, 1992, 2005, 2008, 2009, 2010)
This what mental toughness get’s you.
Everything about Orlando is fake right
on down to the AMWAY center. He knows fake when he sees it.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
Calm down, Roosters
Jeesus, all the expertise on toughness.
I think Otis Smith was referring to KG and Pierce. KG roars and rages and M-Fs left & right (I personally enjoy the whole package) like a reall tough guy but he is a finesse player. Pierce has had the “Oh-my-God-he’s gone-for-the-season” injuires where he’s back on the floor after the TV time out. I’ll take our team over anybody else’s but that’s what he’s talking about. Its what a lot of NBA fans outside of Bostonland say.
As for Otis Thorpe, he’s done a pretty good job down there. So he’s got Gilbert sucking up dollars sitting on the bench. But he got rid of Rashard Lewis’ contract. He brought in Vince (talking about “not tough”) but sent him on too for J-Rich & Hedo. Pretty good net result I’d say except for losing Gortat. He was smart enough to get Ryan Anderson thrown into the Vince deal. And he was smart enough to not give up on Jameer Nelson.
Throwing insults at the guy for comments that everyone thinks outside of Boston is weak.
you just defended what a good job Otis is doing and then rebutted each point by giving the negative aspects of his moves
hahahaha…I say that = a Zero – like Agent Zero and Zero also equals the number of Banners they have.
And I don’t really care if other fans (or you) think we are beinf “Rosters”! It’s my hen house in here so I am going to crow a little …..
Is it Soup Yet?
and he wasn't smart enough to "get" Ryan Anderson as if he knew something I suspect
I am guessing Ryan Anderson was merely filler in the trade to make it work.
Is it Soup Yet?
Could be that he was filler
My recollection of that trade was that the Nets wanted to clear Vince’s contract. They got back Rafer Alston’s bad contract which was expiring. But the Nets also thought Courtney Lee was a stud and I think it became Lee for Anderson. Good move, or good guess by Smith. And, Vince and R. Lewis didn’t get it done so they’re gone. Gilbert isn’t worth his money but he had a good game not long ago and he isn’t old.
And, yes, you are an old rooster. Its the young roosters though that are annoying.
haha rather ironic don'tcha think?
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
Otis Thorpe, gotcha chief.
Otis Smith is horrible GM.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
KG is not a finesse player
He has a finesse offensive game but he’s not a finesse player. Finesse players don’t play much D. PP has had 1 injury that appeared to be season ending and now, apparently, he does it all the time? I think it’s just your perception, not ‘everyone outside of Boston’.
Get Real.
Who says "finesse" is a negative?
If you think KG is a “banger” you don’t watch many games. Iowa guy thinks “finesse” means “No D” and The D Never Rests thinks it means “Wussy”. KG plays great D but he doesn’t play physical D. That is not to say he’s a wuss. I love KG’s act – he’s is not acting – but not everyone outside of Boston does. He beats chest etc like a he’s going to bring a whuppin but he does not look to fight, throw elbows etc.
As for Pierce, look, I love the guy, but the one thing that fans of other teams say is “What’s with the fake injury thing” with Pierce. and it is more than once, more than twice.
That is where Smith is coming from, like it or not.
First time poster long time lurker
if you believe KG’s a finesse player i got a unicorn farm run by a pixie dust snorting centaur in Africa to sell you
by TheDefenseNeverRests05akaUhOh!! on Jan 19, 2011 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
Geez
Whatever happened to the good ol’ Brooklyn Bridge? AS IF we’d ever touch some farm in Africa.
howaaaarrd..
the duck (from his elbows)??
by TheDefenseNeverRests05akaUhOh!! on Jan 19, 2011 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
lmao
look what happens when kg gets back.. its all bass and dwights fault for getting him started shouldnt have got him goin… im sure van gundy is telling his team now dont piss off kg hes tougher then any player on your magic squad!
Because Otis Smith has played against the Celtics and all. . .
That guy has about as much authority to call the Celtics tough as I do. In other words, not very much. You kind of have to play against a team to know if they are actually tough or not. Otis needs to concentrate on what he does best: making bad trade decisions. How’s the search for your backup center working out? I hear Miki Moore is available. . .
Wait wait wait, this coming from the guy who has dwight howard on his team? The guy with the kidding is over commercial? The guy who disses all his followers on twitter … saying you don’t really know me. And then is seen laughing,tauncting and smiling at KG in the final seconds of their loss?
Interesting.
Now, Dwight howard …. thats a pretty good definition of fake tough …
Dwight Howard, is tough???
The same guy that tried to bring Jesus into the life of porn-star, Mary Carey and got rejected. lol
Fine by me
When the other team is caught up in the histrionics (and frankly this is mostly KG), then it is a win for the Celtics. And it is plain as day Howard gets caught up in it. Maybe he is taking a cue from his GM, I don’t know.
Not quoted above, the interviewer goes on to say he meant mental as opposed to physical toughness. And Smith continues to not really answer the question even though to me, it’s pretty obvious Carter, Lewis outgoing and Turk, Richardson, Bass (in effect) incoming means the Magic are tougher! So far, they look tougher to me. Seems pretty insecure to me honestly, even if the Cs are a rival. I understand not wanting to give anything to the other team, but saying a team that’s won a championship and made it to a Finals game 7 another year is “tough” isn’t saying much.
Otis Smith, green isn't your color. More like yellow.
We’ll see you again on Sunday, February 06 2011. : )
Does anybody know
when Perk is coming back? and if D West is really coming back in 2 weeks. before we beat Otis team (btw isn’t that a tough face)?
I'll tell you whats tough
Dealing with all the injuries and set backs that this C’s team has had, and still coming up with the win. All the stuff we do on the court is all about getting into another players head and trying to get him to try to break away from our opponets offense and play one on one ball. Our antics are all head games I dont think it has anything to do with being tough. I know this team is tough I have watched them all season long (not to mention the season before and so on) battle to come up with wins. No one is giving us any wins we have to go out there and take it. We dont get the calls that the SPURS and the LAKERS and a few other teams do. These guys go out there with everything and everyone against them, and pull it out time and time again
let's not blow this out of context
I don’t think he said anything wrong
Hey, guys
He’s just trying to cheer his fans up so they buy tickets for the playoffs. If he said “ye they tough” how many fans would come watch Orlando in the playoffs? More than 2k? Nah.
We all here knew that the Heat are pathetic (and some who doubted it, thinking that having Wade and LeBron will mean they each get a ball so they could each score, and not just one instead the other), Orlando Magic are pathetic, too. They got no chemistry, just shooters and overpumped jack called (by himself and his fanbase hq’ed at ESPN) Superman.
Irresponsible I stand...
Hahaha what an idiot
And he thinks guys who bring guns into locker rooms and throw elbows around are tough? Wait til the playoffs Otis Smith.
The only discouraging thing about this game to me was that Boston was without KG and Perk. Having those two guys back would make them so much stronger, that I am not sure we can win against them.
I can see D. Howard leaving Orlando next year
They won’t win nothing, see you Otis in Feb 6th. We are going to try be tough!
And the Rex Ryanization of American sports continues.
I blame Tom Brady.
Which is tougher in Smith's eyes,
Howard’s elbow or Arenas’s pistol?
by friedgreentomatoes on Jan 19, 2011 2:48 PM EST reply actions
Reddicks Hair gel.
Stuff is dangerous, like wearing a helmet all the time!
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
winner he is in fact their toughest player, IMO
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
yeah, reddick plays hard all the time and is usually fundamentally sound
can’t really say that about anybody else on orlando
by guy incognito on Jan 19, 2011 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
Redick plays hard?
He shoots a three whenever he gets the ball. Lucky bastard usually hits and on D he’s a bigger Z than Big Z Ilgauskas.
Irresponsible I stand...
The Celtics are fake tough?
Do I detect jealousy? Is Otis Smith intimidated of the “fake tough” Celtics? WOW Otis, I just thank him for saying that. They now have more motivation to win banner 18. I also feel he just awoken the beast in KG and the rest of the Celtics.
Stuff like this and the overall hate the Celtics players like KG, PP, and Rondo receive makes me love and support the Celtics more and I’m from LA. I can’t wait till they win banner 18 to shut the haters and doubters down. June can’t get here any faster.
The Magic are fake tough, on D
Otis, talk to your team about giving up 60% on fg’s…
You wanna talk tough...
Paul Pierce was stabbed like a million times, and didn’t miss a single game for it. All you have is Gilbert who was stupid enough to bring a firearm into the locker room. I also hear that he cheats in Halo. Meanwhile, Delonte West was caught in the single coolest gun related crime I’ve ever heard an athlete get into. I’ll take Desperado over Agent 0 any day. Heck, Big Baby shoves small children around at YOUR arena. THATS tough
He's partially right.
Every team is fake tough.
Stern neutered the NBA long ago. Players can’t police themselves anymore. Garnett’s antics would have gotten him decked by whoever was the other team’s enforcer 25 years ago and back. Howard’s accidental elbows would have gotten him accidentally taken out.
Well we could get Shaq
If he wants to go out gloriously: MAKE DWIGHT PAY!!!
Irresponsible I stand...
Won't happen
Shaq would be out for the season.
That’s today’s fake tough.
by Finkelskyhook on Jan 19, 2011 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
Haha
The C’s are now 32-9 halfway through the season. That’s what “fake tough” teams do?
News to me….
Toughness is
having an absolute crapola day shooting the ball … completely failing at something you normally do really well …
and STILL finding a way to win.
Who cares what Otis says?
I mean, seriously, it is his opinion and I’m sure there are many people with the same opinion. Not us, of course.
This is much ado over nothing.
Though your article, Jay, was interesting.
who is this guy anyway?
IF THE CELTICS AREN’T TOUGH WHY ARE THEY NUMBER 1 IN THE EAST WHILE THE MAGIC ARE ONLY 4TH.
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