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Lakers' struggles have Kupchak ready to make moves | NBA.com

The Lakers officially entered crisis mode Monday, when general manager Mitch Kupchak told NBA.com that the recent poor play by the two-time defending champions may drive him to make a trade to shake up an underachieving roster. "Regarding a trade, I may have to," Kupchak said at the team's practice facility a day after the convincing loss to their heated rivals, the Celtics. "I'm not saying that I've made calls today or I'll make them tomorrow. But I just don't think that we're playing as well as our talent level should allow us."

The Magic have already made their desperation trades (which aren't working out too bad so far, but I'm still a skeptic).  The Miami Heat don't have any room to make trades.  And now the Lakers are ready to wheel and deal to try to find the right mix.

Now, if they can pull off another heist like they did when they got Gasol or resurrect another talented but troubled cast-off like Artest, then this will give me pause.  But typically speaking, when the general manager is admitting that he's looking to make moves to shake things up, that's not a really good sign for the team.  Which is a good sign for us.

Meanwhile, Danny Ainge has said a number of times that he's very happy with the roster as it stands, and for once I think most people believe him.  Especially since we just added one big mid-season addition (Perkins) and will be adding another shortly (Delonte).

So, who do you think the Lakers will be targeting?  Who would they be willing to dump on some witless GM give up in a trade?

Update: Zach Lowe asks the appropriate question: Who would take what they are selling?

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Is it enough to win the championship again this year, or will there be some measure of disappointment if it’s not against the Lakers? If the Lakers somehow implode and don’t reach the Finals and we knock off the Spurs of the Mavs or whoever…Will it be just as sweet, or do we have to have another BOS vs. LAL Finals to be fully satisfied?

by Greg Payne on Jan 31, 2011 9:19 PM EST reply actions  

Sorry to switch the topic, Jeff

But this line got me thinking: “But typically speaking, when the general manager is admitting that he’s looking to make moves to shake things up, that’s not a really good sign for the team. Which is a good sign for us.”

by Greg Payne on Jan 31, 2011 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know, 86 was pretty sweet

but I always felt cheated out of the rematch

Faith and Sports - an essay by Jeff Clark

by Jeff Clark on Jan 31, 2011 9:27 PM EST up reply actions  

honestly, I'm not worried

they’ll be back there and so will we

should be a fun time

Faith and Sports - an essay by Jeff Clark

by Jeff Clark on Jan 31, 2011 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

True...

I wanted the C’s to face and beat LA in 86 so bad after losing the finals to them in 85.
It would of been so much sweeter beating LA for title 16 then it was beating Houston.

If we make the finals this year I want LA also, just to get revenge for last year.

by fordescort on Jan 31, 2011 9:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I, for one, want LA up there.

Just for good measure.

But I’ll rejoice either way, if we win it.

- Dirk van Boxtel, the wandering Celtic fan.
Twitter: @4Hoopz

by Kiorrik on Jan 31, 2011 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the main priority is to stay ahead of la in championships. As a Southern Californian C’s fan, it would pain me to see and hear about la having just as many titles or more. I don’t want to see that day.

It can be any team that we beat. It doesn’t have to be the lakers

by vgarcia890 on Jan 31, 2011 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Naturally, it tastes sweetest to beat LA at home in a game 6

That’s the peak of perfect. Winning it in 4 or 5 games is great too, just a tad off the peak when it’s not at home.

Beating some other team? For me, it makes NO difference. My logic is: it hardly matters if WE beat LA or somebody ELSE beats them. Either way, they’re beaten. Either way, we’re better, we’re the champs, and there will be ZERO doubt about it. (…Unlike last year, when many even outside the Cs’ camp wondered what would have happened if Perk hadn’t gone down, if KG had been whole, etc.)

I dunno… I’m searching my feelings and I find NO dropoff in the level of elation just because it’s not the Lakers in the Finals. Zero.

by DRJ1 on Jan 31, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

ill take the ring either way

beating the lakers is great but them not making the finals is just as good to me

"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!

i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"

by remembering9ergods on Jan 31, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Winning is always sweet...Finals opponent is irrelevant!

Besides, two separate celebrations to rejoice in :

1} Laker elimination from WC playoffs {May}
2} Celtic championship {June}

by Title 18 on Feb 1, 2011 12:29 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Of course beating LA is the best case scenario

But we all still cherish that 86 team. 18 is 18.

"They don't buy all those banners at Woolworths."

-- Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, on all the championship banners at Boston Garden

by Brett Szabo on Jan 31, 2011 11:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Interesting thought...

The way things are shaping up… things may replay themselves in an almost scary form of “twilight zone” situation.

Celtics lose in 85, add past his prime former league MVP, win in 86 when Lakers fail to make Championship.

Celtics lose in 2010, add past his prime former league MVP… Win in 2011 when Lakers fail to make Championship? Seems plausible.

"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach

by Sizzlack on Jan 31, 2011 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Just as sweet to close Duncan era

I want a chance at Duncan’s Spurs, especially if they are going to win well over 60 games this year.

That would mean we beat the 2 best franchises of the recent past.

I also don’t want the Lakers to win the West ever again.

by guava_wrench on Feb 1, 2011 1:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe they would

go for oj mayo or marcus thornton

The only discouraging thing about this game to me was that Boston was without KG and Perk. Having those two guys back would make them so much stronger, that I am not sure we can win against them.

by letsgoblue86 on Jan 31, 2011 9:25 PM EST reply actions  

#s

wouldn’t be easy for either of those. Thornton is very cheap, but the only matching the Lakers have is Ratliff. No way NO makes that trade (unless owner Stern really wants the Lakers to win). Mayo is more doable but Memphis would have to take back either Fisher for two years or Blake for four, and they’re already on the book for a long time with an overpaid, underperforming point guard.

by Ersatz on Jan 31, 2011 10:05 PM EST up reply actions  

SAVOR the moment

This may be the last time this blog will be free of roster tinkering. It’s soooo nice to have a 10 deep squad (or more).

by Benjamin Barak on Jan 31, 2011 9:41 PM EST reply actions  

So its a “gimme” that we will be in the Finals this year. Nice to know. For sure the Lakers wont be but we will. Good. Im happy.

by Dantenina on Jan 31, 2011 9:47 PM EST reply actions  

Sweet, I'm happy for you then.

"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach

by Sizzlack on Jan 31, 2011 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

If LA does attempt to make a trade....

I hope every GM in the NBA turns there back on Kupchik and does not help bail LA out if there troubles .

Last thing we need is for another GM to do what Chris Wallace of Memphis did in 08 when he traded Gasol away , which is give LA a solid basketball player in exchange for peanuts to help turn there misfortunes around.

by fordescort on Jan 31, 2011 9:49 PM EST reply actions  

Even in the absolute BEST case for them

…it wouldn’t be enough. Remember that they lost in 08, and pretty convincingly. You just can’t gel as a team in so short a period of time, esp w so little time for practice. Not that LA is capable of gelling anyway……..

by DRJ1 on Jan 31, 2011 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

No Gell

A trade won’t settle the Kobe-monster. And he came within an nth of shooting them out of game 7 last year. Ron-ron and little fish bailed ’em out.

by Tenacious D on Feb 1, 2011 7:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Kupchak's blowing smoke

Maybe to put fear in some players: play better or your getting traded to New Jersey!

Lakers aren’t doing anything. I’m sure they’d love to get rid of Artest or Walton, but no one wants them and their bloated contracts. Maybe if they took back some crap, but the Lakers aren’t interested in adding salary. If they get rid of Odom, Bynum, or Gasol, they are throwing away what makes them so unique and difficult to guard: the length and versatility of their front line (which is especially useful against their only serious rival in the West, the Spurs).

Lakers are what they are.

by Ersatz on Jan 31, 2011 9:58 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

artest is a steal at $6m

put him on any other team and his stats jump up. he just is a bad fit for teh triangle

"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!

i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"

by remembering9ergods on Jan 31, 2011 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Artest's PER

is something like 10. He can’t shoot at all, and if he can’t get easy baskets with the talent surrounding him now, how’s he going to do it without Kobe and Gasol drawing attention.tHe’s not a steal anymore, and he’s got three more years after this one. Given that money, his mental fragility, and the expiring CBA, I can’t see anyone taking him on.

by Ersatz on Jan 31, 2011 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

thats because he's at his best

when he’s playing inside. something the lakers dont do with him. look at what he did with indiana and houston when he played inside. plus he is still capable of playing good defense.

"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!

i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"

by remembering9ergods on Jan 31, 2011 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

"The idea is not to block every shot. The idea is to make your opponent believe that you might block every shot." - Bill Russell

by Marjun Raposon on Feb 1, 2011 8:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Aaahhhh.....

The result from a loss from your most hated rival. HHhmmmm….with the NBA owning the Hornets, this will be Mitch’s chance to snap Chris Paul for basically nothing.

by LarryBird33 on Jan 31, 2011 10:03 PM EST reply actions  

yeah, no.....that would suck

"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!

i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"

by remembering9ergods on Jan 31, 2011 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you mean Marc Paul?

.
I think he is playing in Europe, but the Lakes have his rights!!!

JK, of course, but LMAO at the idea of it.

by GetYourSoxOn on Feb 1, 2011 7:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Seems to me the Spurs

are the real deal. We need to win the best record in the NBA so we have home court throughout. I think the spurs will beat the Lakers for the West title. Then we have to beat the Heat which will be tough but I think we can do it. Then it’s us vs Spurs for title. Finally beating Duncan (who should have been a Celtic) and getting that burden off our back. Remember when we really sucked and the Spurs used to kick our butts regularly? Well it’s payback time and I’ll be happy with a title win vs Spurs.

by Daveonthecape on Jan 31, 2011 10:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

+1

I thought I was the only guy out there that wants to see the Spurs. The year before the duncan draft was my 1st year watching basketball. I’ve wanted to beat him ever since then. I have also wanted KG to get to face Duncan in the finals. They are the two best power forwards since I’ve been watching, and I was always a KG man over Duncan.

by MattyFree on Jan 31, 2011 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

This Thursday

Will you be rooting for the lakers versus the Spurs?

by RMO on Jan 31, 2011 11:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes

not because I like the Lakers better than the Spurs. Hell no on that, of course.

But because we need the Spurs to lose a few to get HCA on them.

by mmmmm on Jan 31, 2011 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

They have to come down to earth eventually...

I mean there was a reason they barely squeaked into the playoffs last year… their team hasn’t changed that much.

Unless you want to tell me Neal was the missing piece… come on.

"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach

by Sizzlack on Jan 31, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I`m not sold on the Spurs...

Their huge improvement over last year does not fully add up, or make sense.

Will SA beat LA in the playoffs?
I`ll have to see it to believe it.

by Title 18 on Feb 1, 2011 12:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Just like us, it's health.

Manu is healthy now, which they haven’t had in a few years. Duncan, unlike Kobe, has accepted that he has gotten older and can’t dominate anymore, so he has given the scoring load to his teammates while he focuses on other things. Plus, Neal is an upgrade over Roger Mason. Jefferson is playing much better than he did last year. And the Spurs have recommitted themselves to offense, something that hasn’t happened in San Antonio is years. They’re the real deal for sure.

And I would like to see a few more losses for them too. But against teams like Dallas or Portand or Utah. Another loss against an elite team hurts the Lakers just that much more.

by KY Celts fan on Feb 1, 2011 12:36 AM EST up reply actions  

+1

I will root for the Spurs to lose against Lakers. Got to increase Spurs loss column number. And if Lakers gain confidence from it, so be it. Then maybe we’ll get the rematch we all want. Whether Spurs or Lakers in finals, I want HCA.

by Daveonthecape on Feb 1, 2011 9:13 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I may vomit while doing it.

But yes, I am rooting for any team to add a tally mark to the Spurs loss column, even the… Lakers.

Ugh, that was painful to say.

"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach

by Sizzlack on Jan 31, 2011 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

nope

still rooting for spurs to beat lakers thursday

by alliwantis18o19 on Feb 1, 2011 1:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I rather take out my eyeball and tongue

Before I EVER root for the Lakers in any game.

by illestmcsgt on Feb 1, 2011 4:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Wishing for LA to lose against the Spurs

THAT would really make them look bad (other than losing to the C’s)

"The idea is not to block every shot. The idea is to make your opponent believe that you might block every shot." - Bill Russell

by Marjun Raposon on Feb 1, 2011 8:53 AM EST up reply actions  

The Media

It would make them look bad and their fans would freak out. On the other hand, if they beat the Spurs I can see the media spinning it as the champs are back and they’re finally taking games seriously and the rest of the league better watch out now.

by RMO on Feb 1, 2011 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Good

Last thing I want is for the Cs to be the favorites. Really… that would be terrible. (for real)

by DRJ1 on Feb 1, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

my guess would be

artest and another player together, try to land one of the players teams are trying to dump. when barnes comes back he can take over artests spot. who do they go after though? dont think the pistons would take artest after the fight. they can afford rashard lewis. antwan jamison doesnt really fit.

so im looking at the bobcats wallace, diaw, jackson.
houstons battier, jared jeffires, courtney lee.
memphis’ tony allen and oj mayo
denver al harrington, jr smith, billups (if they are rebuilding)

i guess it just depends on what they can attract in offers.

"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!

i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"

by remembering9ergods on Jan 31, 2011 10:17 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah

those guys are probably available, but Artest’s contract runs longer than all of them. They might work in the trade machine, but can you imagine any sane GM taking on Artest when they can just let guys expire? … What’s that you say? Chris Wallace is still the GM. Oh crap.

by Ersatz on Jan 31, 2011 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

houston said they;d only do trades to improve the team. artest improves them and they wanted him back before he went to the lakers. they were also artest 2nd choice.

if denver can dump harringtons contract which is longer for artest i think they do it as artest has more value than al. in which case they then would trade artest to someone else.

memphis would also be improved and having another good player goes a long ways in helping them get to the playoffs and adding decent players in the off season.

the bobcats are teh only team that might not improve, depends who they trade for him. if it’s diaw i think they improve.

"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!

i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"

by remembering9ergods on Jan 31, 2011 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Chris Wallace is still GM

Yep, oh crap is right. Anything is possible.

"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach

by Sizzlack on Jan 31, 2011 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Tony Allen a laker? The irony is vast.

Mitch is trying to light a fire under some people. The Lakers are built for the playoffs. It’s a long season.

by johnnymost on Jan 31, 2011 10:39 PM EST reply actions  

Yup built for the playoffs...

….but not as a 2nd or worse…a 3rd seed.

by LarryBird33 on Jan 31, 2011 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Artest for Tony Allen and they should be great.

Allen would give them a dynamic athlete that could run…then again nobody on their team runs so nevermind.

by Flawless on Jan 31, 2011 10:49 PM EST reply actions  

Definitely

He’d be perfect for them. They wouldn’t lose anything on offense and gain a lot of versatility on defense: someone who could guard Westbrook, Paul, Ginobli, D-Will. But again: why would Memphis, or anyone, take Artest back. Remembering9ergods keeps trying to make his case, but I don’t see it.

A more intriguing possibility: Shannon Brown for TA. Maybe not the flashy trade Laker fans would like, but more plausible and a great upgrade for the Lakers.

by Ersatz on Jan 31, 2011 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Why would Memphis do that though?

Artest is not playing any better than Tony and Tony looks like he’s defending better too. And Tony is cheaper. Makes no sense for Memphis to bring that headcase to their young team who makes more money.

by Bankshot on Feb 1, 2011 8:06 AM EST up reply actions  

The only GM dumb enough to try and make a blockbuster deal with LA is KAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHNNN!!!!

But their only real assets are Beasley and Love. And Beasley ain’t great.

But I don’t think LA is getting past San Antonio. Spurs are on pace to win 70 games this year. They’re the real deal. And personally, I’d love to see LA lose to them.

by KY Celts fan on Jan 31, 2011 10:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Panicked Laker fans are coming up with every way imaginable to get Melo

Doubt Kupchak has enough to meet Denver’s demands.

Melo and CP3 only have their sights on NY.

by post-it note on Jan 31, 2011 10:53 PM EST reply actions  

New CBA needs a franchise tag,

The power the players have now is ridiculous.

"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach

by Sizzlack on Jan 31, 2011 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

spurs

will “fire all their bullets before the playoffs”

by Mooose on Jan 31, 2011 10:58 PM EST reply actions  

Lakers

The Lakers are already over the financial limit, they cant do much other than a trade.

by angloamer on Jan 31, 2011 11:14 PM EST reply actions  

maybe if we’re lucky, the lakers will pick up sheed

by Mooose on Jan 31, 2011 11:16 PM EST reply actions  

Nope.

"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach

by Sizzlack on Feb 1, 2011 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

i’m a big sheed fan, and if he signed back with boston, i really wouldn’t have much issue, but i feel he would prove to be a cancer on a team with phil jackson. and the triangle. and ron. and the entire lakers team, given he was a big part of game 7 last year.

by Mooose on Feb 1, 2011 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Recorder alert

Just noticed ESPN2 is reairing the Celtics v Lakers game at 1:30 AM Eastern.

by King Coebra on Feb 1, 2011 12:14 AM EST reply actions  

its probably just a motivational tactic

Mitch in recent years doesnt leak out information on trades before they happen. Also I dont think we could garner much for Blake, Ron, or Luke.

"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest

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by shaqfor3 on Feb 1, 2011 2:07 AM EST reply actions  

The Spurs are on a 9 game road trip...

You can’t seriously be thinking of rooting for the Lakers…
I for one, am not hoping for even the slightest possibility that the Lakers can build up confidence with a win over the spurs. The Spurs will lose their shares of games; they really aren’t all they are hyped up to be. A lot of tough road games left for them, and they will have back-to-back scenarios twice during their rodeo trip.

I want the Lakers to go through the same thing that the Knicks went through; 40 years of disparity. The classless, tasteless citizens of America’s social GARBAGE DUMP deserve nothing more.

If nothing is worth dying for, then nothing is worth living for.
~Chuck Coleson

by Eucharist on Feb 1, 2011 2:47 AM EST reply actions  

Agree with all of this except

the part of Spurs being less than the hype. The thing is the Spurs have no hype. Despite owning the Western Conference, everyone is still focused on the Lakers. Even the Thunder get more attention. They’re on pace to win 70 games, and I’d kinda like to see them do it.

by KY Celts fan on Feb 1, 2011 3:27 AM EST up reply actions  

"kinda" should be the operative word

…because if that really happens (70-12), we will not have HCA in the Finals, something surely everyone here would rather have.

by DRJ1 on Feb 1, 2011 4:16 AM EST up reply actions  

They should get Tony Allen

Like payback for taking Shaq and using him against the Lakers.
Joke aside, I don’t see how anyone could help that team other than guys like Vujacic and Farmar. Those guys had no moral to lose, they were happy to get some playing minutes which resulted in loads of quick threes. More important/better players will have their moral crushed by Kobe’s playtime of 47 minutes and 39 seconds.
Tho they may try getting Dwight. That’d be interesting.

Irresponsible I stand...

by LeoMoreno on Feb 1, 2011 3:47 AM EST reply actions  

what about powe the cavs aint going nowhere ?

lohaus #54

by lohaus#54 on Feb 1, 2011 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Btw, not very related, re Eddie House

Did y’all hear that Eddie House got fined $25,000 for making an “obscene gesture” on national television (ABC) Sunday? I’m pretty sure this is the first time that gesture’s been punished like this.

Isn’t he entitled to some WARNING first? Since others have done it before him, openly…..?

by DRJ1 on Feb 1, 2011 4:34 AM EST reply actions  

yeah

I’ve sen Kobe do it and not get penalized… no pun intended.

by Brad Champagne on Feb 1, 2011 5:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe he did get a warning after doing the same gesture last week. However, the rulings of the NBA seems arbitrary at times.

by European NBA fan on Feb 1, 2011 8:31 AM EST up reply actions  

A private warning doesn't help the guy

…who finally gets slammed with the fine. To be FAIR, they needed to have at least ONE public warning.

by DRJ1 on Feb 1, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Had to think

…were the ‘pun’ was. Ok, I think I got it… but it’s a stretch! :)

by DRJ1 on Feb 1, 2011 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Warning? That’s pro sports, not the kindergarten.

by kozlodoev on Feb 1, 2011 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

It is a really stupid thing to do

… on national television. ABC, no less.

by DRJ1 on Feb 1, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Even if they have to eat the rest of his contract..........

His whole contract was worth what he gave them in game 7 last year…..Artest beat us…..No Artest>>>>>NO Championship for them…The loss was painful enough…..to have artest beat us was salt in the wounds…

by csfansince60s on Feb 1, 2011 8:42 AM EST up reply actions  

He didn't play like garbage like usual is more like it

His impact was overrated.

"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said

by Birdbrain on Feb 1, 2011 8:53 AM EST up reply actions  

+1

One big shot and people make want to make him out to be some god.

"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach

by Sizzlack on Feb 1, 2011 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Artets impact was NOT overrated, nor did he just hit one big shot.....I Detest Artest, however.....

20 pts (of the 83 the Fakers scored) , 5 rebounds 5 assists, 2 steals and tough D on Pierce and the big 3 point shot at the end makes him the MVP of that game

by csfansince60s on Feb 1, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

plus one well placed knee in Game 3

in the thigh of Ray Allen, which seemed to affect Allen’s shooting from that point on …

by mmmmm on Feb 1, 2011 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

+1.......And how about......

the high/low tag-team by Bynum and Bryant on Perk in game 6…….we’ll never get game 7 back…the stars were aligned against us and the Fakers cheap-shotted us with Ray and Perk….the sad part is that our valiant effort to get there was overshadowed by their male bovine dung….I curse them all with the evil eye (malocchio)…..may they (none of them) ever hoist the O’Brien trophy again!!!

by csfansince60s on Feb 1, 2011 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

A Trade Cure What Ails 'Em

Which is Big Mambo deciding to go ISO and shooting them out of games.

by Tenacious D on Feb 1, 2011 7:58 AM EST reply actions  

Jeff love the caption.

"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said

by Birdbrain on Feb 1, 2011 8:40 AM EST reply actions  

I don't think this is blowing smoke

The Lakers as they are right now can’t beat the C’s in a seven game series. They just aren’t tough enough. With Perk and KG healthy and Shaq in the lineup, Gasol and Bynum will get pounded in every game. There’s a reason why they call him Gasoft and Bynum isn’t mister durable, Odom isn’t a tough guy either. One of those guys goes down or is exhausted from physical play from our bigs and the series over.

You also have to question the Lakers’ mental state, they know Jackson is retiring so there’s a big question mark about the future, Artest is a headcase and motivation to win another ring might not be there anymore, if Artest isn’t interested then the Lakers don’t really have anyone to guard Pierce, if Kobe covers Pierce, Rondo will have a field day. The same goes for Baby and Delonte off the bench, the Lakers don’t really have anyone on their bench to match up.

Kobe is plenty motivated but if he sees his team mates struggling (which they will guarding the C’s), he’ll hog the ball and score by himself. You just can’t win a 7 game series that way.

So yeah, the Lakers do have a lot of issues and the right trades could work in their favor but in the end of the day, I’m glad that’s not the case with us. In contrast, the C’s are focused, the core guys are on the same page in wanting a ring, our guys want to play hard defense, they know they can beat any team in a seven game series. Our only issue is getting healthy, staying healthy and staying fresh for a playoff run

by Banner 18 on Feb 1, 2011 9:11 AM EST reply actions  

Artest is the obvious man out

but I think that would be a mistake for two reasons: when he plays well (like last year’s finals), he is a real headache for the Celtics, especially Pierce, who has difficulty scoring on him, and second, his problems render his trade value far lower than his talent level. Would Lakers try trading Bynum and Artest for Carmelo? Would Denver entertain that?

by footey on Feb 1, 2011 10:12 AM EST reply actions  

i thought about that trade for Denver

But Artest’s contract is not something Denver would want. They already have a contract like that in Harrington that they’re trying to get rid of.

by KY Celts fan on Feb 1, 2011 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Over Reaction....

One game… one bad loss… it’s only February….Come on Lakers get it together… we need you in the finals!

1986 was classic Faker Legacy… the C’s were loaded and ready to apply the worst beat-down in Laker history. The Fakers disappeared that year in the conf finals…. then the following year the Fakes beat an injured benchless Celtic team in 6 and claimed victory for the 80’s. BS

No way we’re doing this again…. no way!

Get to the finals Fakers – we dare you. We double dare you!!

Kobe has 5 rings… 3 are Shaq’s and 2 are KG’s. KG and Shaq want ’em back!

by David Henderson on Feb 1, 2011 11:26 AM EST reply actions  

thats right amen to that ,

lohaus #54

by lohaus#54 on Feb 1, 2011 11:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Bynum

I think the Lakers will start shopping around ABymun, while his value still inflated and before everyone finds out he is BHaywood version 2.0

I would be surprised if they trade him midseason, but I bet they are already thinking about moving him.

by cocofan on Feb 1, 2011 11:53 AM EST reply actions  

Be careful what you wish for.

The Lakers have had the best front office for the past 30 years and have managed somehow to get talent that fit right in. Just asked the old big three about Mychal Thompson.

by thereallargejames on Feb 1, 2011 12:01 PM EST reply actions  

If I'm the Lakers I go after Carmelo

it would probably take Odom and/or artest but that’s what I’d do. Odom is having a great year but he’s can disappear in big game. Having carmelo and kobe would put unbelievable pressure on the other team to guard both guys. Yes, they would lose some size but perhaps they can get back a guy like chris anderson in the deal. Like the C’s, he Lakers dream big so when they make a move it’s probably going to be a significant one. Bynum is another guy they could move along with shannon brown etc

by Red2 on Feb 1, 2011 12:01 PM EST reply actions  

It's the Spurs

Those who question the Spurs must not have seen the C’s vs. Spurs game a few weeks ago. What I saw was a team that was as fundamentally sound as the C’s, very smart and well disciplined and of course well coached. I believe that they are going to represent the Western conference in the Finals and I’m looking forward to seeing the C’s take them down and get that banner!

OK, I know this thread is supposed to be about the Fakers, but after Sunday’s game I don’t think they have enough in the tank or the heart to get back to the Finals.

by McHaleinthepost on Feb 1, 2011 12:23 PM EST reply actions  

It was just one game folks

Don’t get ahead of yourself. Jackson is a master motivator especially in the playoffs. (He’s also a pompous jerk.)

by thereallargejames on Feb 1, 2011 3:53 PM EST reply actions  

i know the trade..

kupchak wants to trade jerry bus back for chuck nevitt id do it only if they throw in mike smrek also ….

lohaus #54

by lohaus#54 on Feb 1, 2011 11:26 PM EST reply actions  

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