Lockout Casualty: Celtics Youth Movement
The word "aging" precedes the Celtics in so many publications (ok, this blog as well) that it is starting to sound like part of the team's official name. Yes, the core group hasn't exactly found the secret of Benjamin Button but if you give them enough rest they should be able to carry the team into the playoffs once again (where anything can happen).
How they get that rest is up in the air though. Danny has quite a few roster spot to fill once the lockout lifts but we already know of 3 names that will most likely be on the roster. Avery Bradley, JaJuan Johnson, and E'Twaun Moore each has the potential to contribute but only Bradley has seen NBA court time and that was mostly garbage time minutes.
We've already lost training camp, the whole preseason, and the first two weeks of the season. More could follow but even if they came to an agreement today, there would be at best an abbreviated training camp and a rush to start games.
In one sense, the Celtics are well positioned to get up to speed quickly with their core group of several years returning (minus one Beast). But if that group intends to have any lasting impact on the next season (especially if there are extra back to backs and a squished in schedule) the kids are going to have to play.
Avery Bradley has at least had a year of practice in Doc's system. He's got the defensive chops to "Tony Allen" himself into the rotation but he needs confidence in his offense to stay on the floor. Fans don't have much to go on with him and most of us are afraid that Danny might have swung and missed on another tweener guard (see J.R. Giddens and Gabe Pruitt). Obviously that's not fair to Bradley. He is his own man and will have his own shot to stick around. If all goes well, he could be in the rotation along with Rondo for years to come. But this is a critical year for him. He's no rookie anymore. His team needs him to step up. Can he handle the pressure, not to mention the glares that Doc likes to give youngsters that flub his plays?
And what of JJ and Smooge (that's Moore's nickname - it is easy to forget after all this time)? What chance do two rookies have of contributing when they've spent maybe a rushed afternoon with Doc. They were handed playbooks and some tips on conditioning and sent out the door before the gates shut on the league. There's only so much you can learn from a book. Moore is playing in Italy and Johnson is trading dunks in showcase games but that's not going to mean much when they miss a defensive assignment and Kevin Garnett's nostrils are flaring in their general direction.
There's a decent chance that the team will sign Delonte West, Jeff Green, and Big Baby and go with a relatively short rotation for the first month or two, which would allow the youngsters some time to practice with the team. They could ease their way into the lineup. The problem is, Doc is naturally slow to trust young players and there will be precious few practices for them to get acclimated. As it is, if the schedule is shortened and involves large numbers of back-to-backs, the team might go a week or more between real practices (as they have in the past).
One other complication is the potential roster turnover. If Ainge doesn't bring back all his free agents, Doc is going to have to get most of the roster up to speed. That won't allow as much time to spend with the kids.
Of course all this could be hand wringing over nothing. But what else are we going to do with our time. Hey, it could be worse. Just be thankful that Doc didn't get fired and Danny didn't leave to take over the GM job in Chicago with rumors of beer and Popeye's Chicken being consumed on game days in the locker room.
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Doc, I love you, but please call Joe Madden, Manager of the Tampa Bay Rays.
Have him tell you his secrets on how to get all star performances out of rookies and young players.
by thirstyboots18 on Oct 13, 2011 11:59 PM EDT reply actions
D league
I heard the NBA D league would still be operational even with the lockout. Could the rookies be sent there to play?
It will be interesting what role the young players will have...
If there is a season.
What role they have will depend I assume alot on what route will Ainge and Doc take the C’s this season.
Though Doc hinted a few weeks ago they will stay with the core this season (that could be a decoy) so we still do not know for sure if they have ruled out going young this season.
If they decide to blow up the team and go young to start the rebuilding process sooner rather then later, all the young players would probably then get a good look and alot of court time.
But if the C’s stick with the core this season will Doc just go with veteran backups off the bench and bury the kids on the bench?
I hope not as I think the C’s can kill 2 birds with 1 stone and have and play both veteran backups off the bench and some of the youngsters, especially since the starters will need as much rest as possible this year since they are another year older which will open up some extra playing time for the bench players.
I also think its important since the C’s are a older club to let some of the young players play this season ( to add young legs and athleticism to the team) and to also develop some of the younger players to get a jump start to rebuild the club which they will need to eventually do soon.
To do the above :
1st: I would love to see the C’s play Avery and allow him to get some solid minutes at the back up guard position along with a veteran guard like Delonte (if resigned).
A Delonte & Bradley 1-2 veteran and young player punch off the bench in the back court would add I think quality talent and depth (behind Ray and Rondo) and as a bonus would be very low cost talent.
2nd: I would love to see the C’s play J.J. and allow him to get some solid minutes at the back up 4 position along with a another veteran power forward ( like say Murphy who would be my preference if resigned).
A J.J. & Murphy 1-2 veteran and young player punch off the bench at the back up 4 position would add I think quality talent and depth behind KG and as a bonus would be low cost talent also.
The bonus of having J.J and Murphy at the back up position would be the C’s would finally have some length at the backup 4 position that they have not seen in years.
For the above to happen Baby would have to not resigned or my preference would have to be utilized in sign and trade ( since he is a a trade asset) in hope that he can be exchanged for another player or draft pick that could better help the C’s future plan to rebuild.
I am not sure how many minutes Moore would get but at the very least think Avery and J.J. should have a shot of getting some solid court time .
Of course Ainge & Doc will have the final say on if they will give the kids a chance to play or not so time will only tell if they do so or not ..which I hope they do.
New players
For your own sake search out a European team right now and get some experience. You won’t be getting any this year. Not to mention the money.
took me a while
but I finally figured out what was bothering me about that picture.
they need to swap numbers. JJ can channel former #55 Eric Williams and Moore can channel former #12 Jerry Sichting. If either develops into one of those players, we’d be doing well for those picks
Eric Williams
the original creation (the tattoo up and down both his arms)… loved watching e-Dubs grind down low on some poor SF or 2 guard who he had 20 pounds on…
"Take it to the hoop, there's a dance involved." - DJ Tommy
+1
I loved it when Williams also took his man down into the paint, as he was very offensively doing so.
It kinda reminded me of how Adrian Dantley use to the same back in the 80’s..
I saw Eric Williams
at an event at the Providence Civic Center a few months before he was drafted and thought — man, it’d be great if the C’s could get him.
Too bad he had to get shipped out his second year before he realized he had to step up his game to hang around in the league.
Love the recognition and compliment for Jerry Sichting slamtheking...
Though he was a quiet player, did not get alot of media attention I think he was a great solid guard for the C’s and played a vital role playing shooting guard (and point guard at times) for the C’s, helping them win sweet banner #16 in 1986.
When Sichting, Wedman and Walton came off the bench that year they were a very formidable bench big 3 indeed.
True...Sichting was a very good, solid guard off the bench
As for a new #55 and #12…they can`t be any worse than a few others who`ve worn those uniforms :
Acie Earl {#55} and Chris Herren {#12}
86 Celtics
That team was pure basketball perfection. Walton and Sichting were
tremendous off the bench. Too bad the Lakers wussed out against
Houston that year. The Celts would have demolished the Lakers in
the Finals and that would have been glorious!
Agree 100%
That team was so special…great memories from that year indeed.
I was sad also not see that 86 Celtic team get a chance to beat LA in the finals to avenge the 85 title loss that the C’s lost alot due to injuries.
I also oh so much wanted to see Walton go after Jabbar in the finals.
Walton ate his lunch in the 2 regular season games that year,
I can only imagine how pumped up Walton would of been going up against LA and Jabbar with a title at stake !































