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Herald A positive spin on Rondo revolution

Interesting story from this first link:

According to multiple sources, Rondo's errors were being pointed out when he arose and began discussing the mistakes of his teammates. Loudly. Using harsh language.

Coach Doc Rivers got up and fired back, and Rondo threw a bottle that shattered the video screen. He bolted from the practice facility and was prevented from returning when he tried later.

The article goes on to detail Rondo's growing maturity and taking ownership of the leadership position he's growing into. Recommended reading.

On to the rest of the links...

Jeff Green’s medical woes cause concern
Brandon Bass fits in with Kevin Garnett, Celtics
Heat: A lot less fanfare but more urgency
Clippers back away from Chris Paul trade
Delonte to sign with Mavericks
Globe Monday's Celtics practice report
Paul still in limbo
Danny Ainge making big plans for next summer
Danny Ainge pleased with Celtics additions but looking for more
Celtics’ Jeff Green out with medical issue
Celtics Life New Celtic Brandon Bass talks after practice
Kobe: "I Think We're Terrible"
NBA Accused of Rigging Billups to the Clippers
Meet Gilbert Brown: Highlight Reel
Meet Gilbert Brown: Highlight Reel
Keyon Dooling Gets In A Fight With Ray Allen
Celtics.com to Stream Media Day Live at 10 am on Tuesday 12/13/11
Upset Rondo smashed video screen during Heat series
CelticsBlog Our Best Hope For Banner 18, ...Jeff Green?
Ainge: "We May Be Done. But We May Not Be."

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SB Nation Stories From Rajon Rondo's Postseason Hulk Session
Boston Celtics Media Day 2011: C's Host Media Day On Tuesday
CLNS Radio 2012 Boston Celtics Roster Update– great picture of practice
Celtics Videos: For Those Who Like to Watch 12/12/11
ESPN Rookies make most of first practice
Brandon Bass happy to have chance to play for Boston Celtics
Will same old Boston Celtics be enough?
Lingering questions in Chris Paul, Dwight Howard trade talks
Ainge likes roster given resources
Mavs, Delonte West agree to 1-year deal
Chris Wilcox embraces Celtics' winning tradition
Green remains out after physical red flag
Dwight Howard rethinking demand for trade from Orlando Magic
Christmas Countdown: Dominant storyline
Paperwork complete: C's roster fills up
Minute watch: KG's new plan
Red's Army Kevin Garnett was chased by wolves at midnight in Chicago
Blatant speculation: Jermaine O'Neal for Rudy Fernandez, Corey Brewer
Big Baby and Perk: The Slim Fast twins
Why Dwight Howard should have zero input
So after all that, here's how the Celtics roster looks
E'Twaun Moore talks with Boston media
Where the hell did super-jacked Glen Davis come from?
Celtics.com Trio of New Celtics Make a Great Impression
CSNNE Ainge: Green's physical raises red flag
Pavlovic happy to be back with Celtics
Loyal to a 'C': Why Pierce won't give up on Boston
Ainge still searching for reliable center
Pierce (heel), Rondo (ankle) miss Celtics practice
Center still a question
NBA needs closure
Celtics Hub Monday Notebook: Why West Deal Fell Apart, Sasha Pavlovic To Sign, Reggie Evans Still On Radar?
Monday Practice Notes: Chris Wilcox Signed for MLE, Jeff Green Having Issues with Physical
Delonte Does Dallas
Must-Read: Rondo Opens Up About Outburst During Last Postseason

Green Street An updated look at the Celtics roster
E’Twaun Moore impresses in first day of practice
Irish Coffee: Have the Celtics upgraded their roster?
Celtics Town On re-signing Sasha Pavlovic
Mass Live NBA adopts new concussion policy
Celtics Jeff Green hits red light in physical, misses fourth practice
Celtics Title Town Optimism for 2011-2012 Boston Celtics
Delonte in Dallas,and Green health issues?
Celtics rookies hit the practice court for the first time this season
Ainge likes the roster,and what's that mean to me?
Celtics Morning Joe: The Celtics are no fun,and games this season
Hangtime Blogs Billups Forewarned By League
10 Preseason Games On NBA TV
Sheridan Hoops Kupchak says Lakers still pursuing "big deals"
State of the Celtics Jeff Green not practicing due to a medical issue
Delonte West agrees to a deal with the Dallas Mavericks
NECN Bass hopes to bring energy, scoring off bench
Nashua Telegraph Uncertainty haunting Celtics
NESN Chris Paul, Dwight Howard and Other Superstars Are Not Hurting NBA's Competitive Balance
Celtics' Salary-Cap Status Making It Difficult for Them to Pull Off Any Big Deals
Kendrick Perkins Loses 32 Pounds, Shows Up to Thunder Training Camp Looking Slim
Taunton Gazette Celtics practicing, ready for the full team -
WEEI How Danny Ainge built a roster from scratch
Celtics sign draft picks, re-sign Pavlovic
Report: Chris Paul to Clippers pending league approval
Mavs Moneyball Get To Know Delonte West
Central Florida Future Howard situation looms heavy over Orlando Magic media day
Metro West Daily Green out after 'issue' during physical
Celtics Monday practice report from Waltham: Jeff Green held out after "issue" found in physical
Milford Daily News Celtics Monday practice report from Waltham: Jeff Green held out after "issue" found in physical
NY Post Celts, Warriors may solve CP3 mystery
Magic Basketball 3-on-3 roundtable: Examining the Glen Davis trade
Hoopsworld Clippers Claim Chauncey Billups
NBA.com GameTime: Celtics Camp Report
Bulls re-sign forward Brian Scalabrine
Dimemag Where’s The Remote? The NBA’s Top 10 League Pass Teams
Washington Post Kendrick Perkins drops 30 pounds, still bringing tough-guy persona to Thunder
SI.com Clippers pull out of Chris Paul trade with Hornets
Pro Basketball Talk The tangled web of Chris Paul, David Stern, and the blockbuster trade that wasn’t
Yahoo Rondo Injury Hints at Tough Season Ahead for Celtics
Celtics’ Jeff Green suffering from mystery ailment

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I understand from another blog that Jeff green failed his physical?

by jurrasicearl on Dec 13, 2011 10:32 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

They "found something" during his physical, and have to do more testing.

There’s not much else on it right now…

Very cryptic stuff.

"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach

by Sizzlack on Dec 13, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm a little concerned about this

The explaination, or lack there of, is confusing.

“Found something”? What does that even mean? Found what?

I can’t imagine why they wouldn’t say what they found unless it was a major issue. Otherwise don’t even say anything at all. Just give some “personal issues” B.S. or something.

" Hell yeah I'm trying to gain an advantage out here. If you can't handle it, get off the court."- Kevin Garnett
"Stats are for losers."- Rahim Morris (Tampa Bay Buccaneers)

by KG's Knee on Dec 13, 2011 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

My guess, and it's speculative obviously.

Is they found some kind of growth/tumor and are doing their due diligence to be sure its benign. Most common thing when you have situations like this, biopsy would take a day or two, so the timeline fits.

90% of the time its nothing, but they have to be sure. It’s also entirely possible he hid some form of injury from the off-season, which if they found it in the physical (ligament tear perhaps) could affect his contract if he wasn’t upfront with it at the signing, and has to miss time.

All highly speculative obviously.

"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach

by Sizzlack on Dec 13, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

they have to report things like that during physicals

the league is supposed to be informed of all things during physicals to ensure that players dont end up playing with something that could cripple them or worse. So even if its just a minor thing they have to report it and do further testing….its not really the celtics who control this, and imho opinion its the right thing to do.

I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!

by piccolomair on Dec 13, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed.

It is far better to wait and be absolutely certain.

I’ve personally known two young athletes who died suddenly and tragically in their 20s (ala’ Bo Kimble) due to minor heart defects that if known about could have been dealt with.

There is absolutely no reason to fool around.

NBA Officiating - Corrupt? Incompetent? Which is worse? Does it matter? It sucks.

by mmmmm on Dec 13, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly

and in the competetive world of sports you could see some players or coachs and even higher ups neglecting something just to ensure that a guy plays, and it could lead to more than losses of games. The have to make it public in case of trades as well or if they release a player for insurance reasons.

I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!

by piccolomair on Dec 13, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Reggie Lewis.

Enough said.

"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach

by Sizzlack on Dec 13, 2011 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

rondo will be gone.that article doesnt make him look good at all

by JustAfam on Dec 13, 2011 10:39 AM EST reply actions  

cumulonimbus (ridiculous) -

It is a cumulonimbus formation that, deserved or not, is the reason the New Orleans Hornets were willing to accept a pocketful of mumbles in exchange for Chris Paul.

ridiculous that they used this word in the article – come on man!

Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk

by mcpu40 on Dec 13, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd say there are a few reasons it was poor choice

-The metaphor is a stretch

-This is a sports article, not a weather report.

-How many readers actuallyknew what that word even meant?

" Hell yeah I'm trying to gain an advantage out here. If you can't handle it, get off the court."- Kevin Garnett
"Stats are for losers."- Rahim Morris (Tampa Bay Buccaneers)

by KG's Knee on Dec 13, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

I'll admit I had to look up the definition

And generally my vocabulary is pretty good.

I’d say that it is quite a stretch to use that word as a metaphor for Rondo’s actions, and resulting (supposed) lack of trade value. Is the writer really implying a storm is brewing?

“Come on man!” (in my best Chris Carter voice) is right.

" Hell yeah I'm trying to gain an advantage out here. If you can't handle it, get off the court."- Kevin Garnett
"Stats are for losers."- Rahim Morris (Tampa Bay Buccaneers)

by KG's Knee on Dec 13, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

i had to look up the word too -

- that’s what’s it, and i was an English major, though my guess at the definition was pretty close – just pick something normal people can understand and move on…

Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk

by mcpu40 on Dec 13, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

darn it - meant to type that's what's WRONG WITH it

- KG’s Knee is correct, no need for such a word in a sports article – I think the writer was just trying to sound smart – but we digress – the article didn’t really paint Rondo in a poor light, however, if he BROKE MY TV, I’d be pissed.

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Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk

by mcpu40 on Dec 13, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think that the article

was a slam on Rondo, and it had a positive spin, but from the facts presented in the article, it made me think of Rondo in as slightly more negative fashion

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by KGHurtYourFeelings on Dec 13, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

i found flceltsfan's choice of excerpt to be hilarious

cuz when clicking the link i was wondering if he was just being funny with the ‘positive spin’

that excerpt does anything but create a positive spin about rondo

I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!

by piccolomair on Dec 13, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

personally, I didn't have a problem with the word.

Maybe that’s because I already knew the definition. But I guess the writer could said “storm cloud” just as easily and had the same effect. Oh well, I’m not his editor.

by KY Celts fan on Dec 13, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Frank running the session?

Something’s wrong here! Frank was coaching the Bulls last year, so this couldn’t have been referring to last playoffs, it had to be the year before. This is very old news, might be the first we’ve heard of it, but it’s two years ago. It seems to me that Rondo has matured a lot since then. It would explain why his name was out there in trade negotiations summer before last, though.

by Eris on Dec 13, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

You're a little confused

Thibs was coaching the Bulls. Lawrence Frank was lead assistant last year before being hired as the Head Coach of the Pistons this year.

by KY Celts fan on Dec 13, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, heck! You’re right. :) I was mixing up Assistant Coaches…

…never mind!

by Eris on Dec 13, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

thibs won coach of the year man

cmon now…theres no reason to forget the mans name…

I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!

by piccolomair on Dec 13, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice touch, FLCF, highlighting a particularly interesting story.

BTW, what’s coach doing sitting on the floor, with all the team in the chairs?

by clover on Dec 13, 2011 10:48 AM EST reply actions  

Great article.

If half of what he said in there is true, we’ll be looking back at the end of this year saying “Thank god we didn’t trade him for Chris Paul.”

"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach

by Sizzlack on Dec 13, 2011 10:57 AM EST reply actions  

Its nice to hear Rondo realizes he needs to be more mature

But shouldn’t he be past that stage by now?

My gut instinct tells me these type of incidents will always be there to some degree. It just seems to be in his nature.

Is it enough to trade him? No way! I would say his redeeming qualities far outweigh any negative ones.

" Hell yeah I'm trying to gain an advantage out here. If you can't handle it, get off the court."- Kevin Garnett
"Stats are for losers."- Rahim Morris (Tampa Bay Buccaneers)

by KG's Knee on Dec 13, 2011 11:01 AM EST reply actions  

He’s like 25. Some people mature by this time other take awhile longer; everyone has a different learning curve, I guess.

I think the biggest thing is being put in a situation that forces him to realize that he has to harness and control his emotions a bit better. There’s nothing wrong with passion but in excess it can be a detriment. Hoping he has a monster, Kidd-like season minus all the clanked long jumpers.

by muckduck on Dec 13, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Are you past immaturity ?

I am 65 and still need to be more mature about some things…life is a growth process from young to old.

by thirstyboots18 on Dec 13, 2011 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably not

Just read some of my posts. You’ll see I am still prone to outbursts from time to time. It is what it is.

But I’m not being paid millions of dollars to be a professional either, for what it’s worth.

" Hell yeah I'm trying to gain an advantage out here. If you can't handle it, get off the court."- Kevin Garnett
"Stats are for losers."- Rahim Morris (Tampa Bay Buccaneers)

by KG's Knee on Dec 13, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

And like I've said

I still believe Rondo’s redeeming qualities far outweigh any negative one’s, and I do not want to see him traded.

Rondo has become my favorite player on this team.

" Hell yeah I'm trying to gain an advantage out here. If you can't handle it, get off the court."- Kevin Garnett
"Stats are for losers."- Rahim Morris (Tampa Bay Buccaneers)

by KG's Knee on Dec 13, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I also do not paid millions of dollars to be a professional

and might not be the most mature guy in the world, but I don’t throw temper tantrums and glasses at work, and would be disgusted if any of my co-workers did.

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by KGHurtYourFeelings on Dec 13, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha ha...

I Have been know to break a few dishes, and to throw a few tamtrums, too. My husband and friends are a bit more forgiviing, thankfully. Do you think money equals maturity? Then perhaps if Rondo was making Chris Paul’s salary….(No I don’t think he deserves it, but I don’t think Chris does either. Maybe money’s intrinsic value is more to me than it is to you, and maybe sports and athletes are worth more to you than they are to me. I still haven’t recovered from the lockout and the amount of money that was being thrown around and wasted yet.

by thirstyboots18 on Dec 13, 2011 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I was just saying

that anybody with pride should do their job professionally, whether they are an NBA player or a janitor.

Obviously, emotions are going to run high, and their are going to be issues in the workplace. Perhaps more so in professional athletics, considering the competitive and physical nature.

The thing is, a lot of the great players are/were jerks, in a sense. I still don’t like it, personally, but I understand that the supercompetitiveness and borderline psychotic devotion to the game is going to sometimes manifest itself in negative ways. But Rondo isn’t good enough to be like that in the locker room. That’s reserved for the greats.

He’s got a Jordan mentality without Jordan game.

I’m not trying to hang the guy or anything, but those aren’t the type of stories I’d like to hear about him. Or any other Celtics

"Chemistry is something that you don't just throw in a frying pan and mix it up with another something and throw something on top of that and then fry it up and put in a tortilla and put it in microwave, heat it up, give it to you and expect it to taste good. You know? If y'all don't know what I'm talking about then you can't cook and this doesn't concern you."

by KGHurtYourFeelings on Dec 13, 2011 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Then you probably shouldn't read about them.

I remember when I was in my mid-20’s, after being stuck on a horrid tech support call for almost an hour and still not getting the problem resolved, hanging up and then kicking the living crap out of garbage can in the lab …

Sometimes we just lose it. Especially when we care intensely about something.

People are human. Players are people. You look at them close enough and you are going to see their flaws.

But Rondo isn’t good enough to be like that in the locker room. That’s reserved for the greats.

That sounds … arrogant. I hope you’ll get back to us and let us know when someone is ‘great’ enough that they are allowed to lose their temper.

If you don’t like to hear such stories, plug your ears.

NBA Officiating - Corrupt? Incompetent? Which is worse? Does it matter? It sucks.

by mmmmm on Dec 13, 2011 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

So, you are defending

Rondo’s outburst? Again, I didn’t say boot him off the team or he’s not my favorite player any more.

I am saying that these are not the type of stories I want to hear about a player on our team with known maturity/emotional issues.

THat’s all, and I’m not sure why you would take issue with that. I work in an office right now. A few months ago, someone who works for me got extremely heated in a meeting and through a coffee cup through a window.

I didn’t fire him, and I know people get excited in the work place, but I certainly took him aside and let him know that behavior was unacceptable…

“Plug your ears”…I took that as kind of an obnoxious statement. If you think that causing a scene, throwing stuff, and disrupting team meetings is “part of the game”….you’re right. BUt to say that it should simply be accepted and people should work to improve themselves…you’re wrong.

“Great enough to lose their temper”…Recent examples from my childhood…Jordan…Bird…it wasn’t about being great enough to lose their temper, as you mockingly put it.

It’s about being great enough to lift others up with pure emotion. Jordan/Bird/Kobe…they lost their tempers and had frequent outbursts. But other players respected them when they did it, because they were greats who consistently played at another level and we’re able to inspire/terrify their teammates to rise to another level, by their sheer will AND play.

Rondo has that strong will, but he doesn’t have the game that makes his teammates respect outbursts like that as challenges and motivation.

Feel free to condescend further.

"Chemistry is something that you don't just throw in a frying pan and mix it up with another something and throw something on top of that and then fry it up and put in a tortilla and put it in microwave, heat it up, give it to you and expect it to taste good. You know? If y'all don't know what I'm talking about then you can't cook and this doesn't concern you."

by KGHurtYourFeelings on Dec 14, 2011 8:40 AM EST up reply actions  

"BUt to say that it should simply be accepted and people should work to improve themselves…you’re wrong."

I didn’t say that, of course.

But let’s examine that.

If you are saying, “I didn’t say boot him off the team” then that implies you do “accept” it (or else indeed you would not want him on the team). If you ALSO think he should “work to improve himself” then, that means that that whole phrase, “… it should simply be accepted and people should work to improve themselves …” is YOUR exact thinking. But then you say that’s “wrong”.

Should people NOT work to improve themselves?

As to the other stuff, no it is clear you have assigned yourself the role (which as a FAN is indeed your right) of arbiter of who is or isn’t great enough to lose their temper. Other fans may not share your opinion, of course.

I’m glad you have such insight into the thoughts, emotions and motivations of all these players. The rest of us should bow to such amazing powers.

Who’s really being the condescending one here?

NBA Officiating - Corrupt? Incompetent? Which is worse? Does it matter? It sucks.

by mmmmm on Dec 14, 2011 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Am i even really supposed to respond to this?

“I’m glad you have such insight into the thoughts, emotions and motivations of all these players. The rest of us should bow to such amazing powers.

Who’s really being the condescending one here?"

these 3 sentences together nearly blew my mind. I’m not even sure what you’re arguing with me about.

I am saying that Rondo’s behavior, in this instance, is detrimental to the team. You know that. NOt sure why youre getting into semantics…

"Chemistry is something that you don't just throw in a frying pan and mix it up with another something and throw something on top of that and then fry it up and put in a tortilla and put it in microwave, heat it up, give it to you and expect it to taste good. You know? If y'all don't know what I'm talking about then you can't cook and this doesn't concern you."

by KGHurtYourFeelings on Dec 14, 2011 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

or are you saying

that Rondo’s behavior is cool? have you ever read about the way Jordan behaved and the way his teammates responded. Do you think rondo’s teammates respond the sameway?

i agree 100% that some fans might disagree with me. like you said, it is an opinion. but maybe they should voice their respective opinions instead of trying to insult me and saying nothing about the topic?

"Chemistry is something that you don't just throw in a frying pan and mix it up with another something and throw something on top of that and then fry it up and put in a tortilla and put it in microwave, heat it up, give it to you and expect it to taste good. You know? If y'all don't know what I'm talking about then you can't cook and this doesn't concern you."

by KGHurtYourFeelings on Dec 14, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

All I'm noting

is that YOU keep making unqualified assertions about how players think and feel and react and YOU keep stamping out absolute judgments on who is great and who is not and it is YOU who came of nowhere with the postulation that “only the greats” are allowed to exhibit certain locker room behavior.

The facts are that unless you are privy to details far beyond what any of us normal fans and media have access to, you have no clue as to how any of Rondo’s teammates truly felt and reacted to his behavior. You don’t. Its as simple as that.

So when you go about casting absolute judgments and postulations like you did up above, you sound … arrogant.

I’ve watched pro sports a long time. I am completely aware of what we see on the surface regarding Jordan’s relationship with his teammates. And its irrelevant. For all we know, his teammates all secretly thought he was an ass. Or the pope. We don’t really know.

Further, Rondo was not being compared to Jordan except by you. That is a form of straw man.

You ask me “do you think rondo’s teammates respond …” and that goes right to the point. I don’t. I don’t pretend to know how they think. I do know that they won the next game in the series.

I don’t see Rondo’s behavior as ‘cool’ or ‘uncool’. I am able to admit that I was not there and I am not ever going to be able to know enough to form a fair opinion. So I will defer to the opinions of the vested parties who were there and to whom it matters. If Doc is ‘cool’ with Rondo then so am I.

NBA Officiating - Corrupt? Incompetent? Which is worse? Does it matter? It sucks.

by mmmmm on Dec 14, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

at “unqualified assertions”.

I gave my opinions about basketball! I never claimed to be stating facts. Nobody on here is stating facts. I don’t pretend to be an insider either.

You gave your opinions about the locker room, which to tel you the truth, I respect.

But then, the irony of you claiming straw man to attack me and continue to argue something that I never claimed to be fact…

I used to respect your posts, but you’re getting a little emo for me…(just ilke rondo)…

I’m just joking, lighten up.

"Chemistry is something that you don't just throw in a frying pan and mix it up with another something and throw something on top of that and then fry it up and put in a tortilla and put it in microwave, heat it up, give it to you and expect it to taste good. You know? If y'all don't know what I'm talking about then you can't cook and this doesn't concern you."

by KGHurtYourFeelings on Dec 14, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I have made no straw man arguments here.

Perhaps you need to re-read the discussion carefully.

Making an assertion without qualifying it is the same as claiming it as fact.

NBA Officiating - Corrupt? Incompetent? Which is worse? Does it matter? It sucks.

by mmmmm on Dec 14, 2011 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

come on now.

Your application of logical fallacies to sports message board opinions is indeed interesting, but rather than continue to try and explain myself, with you knowing exactly what I meant, I will play your game:

I think that Rondo is a good PG, but that he should not throw glasses through projector screens.

You clearly believe that all NBA players should break equipment and walk out on team meetings.

This is fun.

Your move…

"Chemistry is something that you don't just throw in a frying pan and mix it up with another something and throw something on top of that and then fry it up and put in a tortilla and put it in microwave, heat it up, give it to you and expect it to taste good. You know? If y'all don't know what I'm talking about then you can't cook and this doesn't concern you."

by KGHurtYourFeelings on Dec 14, 2011 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

"You clearly believe that all NBA players should break equipment and walk out on team meetings."

Straw man and unsupported assertion.

LOL.

’See you on the next thread.

NBA Officiating - Corrupt? Incompetent? Which is worse? Does it matter? It sucks.

by mmmmm on Dec 14, 2011 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

all love

go celtics.

"Chemistry is something that you don't just throw in a frying pan and mix it up with another something and throw something on top of that and then fry it up and put in a tortilla and put it in microwave, heat it up, give it to you and expect it to taste good. You know? If y'all don't know what I'm talking about then you can't cook and this doesn't concern you."

by KGHurtYourFeelings on Dec 14, 2011 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

As much as I love Rondo

he clearly has character/personality issues, as I’ve said before.

Perhaps they stem from a competitiveness or a fire that we all love, but that does not excuse them. As someone above me just said, it’s good that he realizes he needs to work on them but, come on..

That’s not to say he can’t change, but for all those who were saying his emotional issues were blown out of proportion…

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by KGHurtYourFeelings on Dec 13, 2011 11:43 AM EST reply actions  

Also

Jeff Green saying he “didn’t ask” the doctors what the medical issue was sounds very curious. All basketball aside, I hope he’s ok.

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by KGHurtYourFeelings on Dec 13, 2011 11:45 AM EST reply actions  

What is the deal with Green?

He is not practicing. Reports this morning are that he failed his physical. But the most curious thing is that, when asked what the medical issue was, he had no idea? Am I wrong to assume that most folks would ask the doctor what the issue is, especially if they are a professional basketball player who just signed a big contract with the season about to start? And the Celtics are mum on this as well. Perhaps nothing to all this but the timing of Green’s “condition” coincides with the Clippers’ latest failed attempt to land CP3 and the article about Rondo having a fit and calling out teammates during the Heat series last season. Personally, I just assume go to war with what we have. Teams only have 2 weeks to get their acts together before the short season starts. And every game counts since there are only 66 to play.

by JPV on Dec 13, 2011 1:37 PM EST reply actions  

Green didn't fail his physical

Something came up in his physical (we don’t know what) that is being looked into more closely. It could be something serious like a heart problem. It could be something minor like having mole looked at. We don’t know.

by KY Celts fan on Dec 13, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Keyon Dooling gets in fight with Ray Allen

http://www.celticslife.com/2011/12/keyon-dooling-gets-in-fight-with-ray.html

Surprised this hasn’t gotten more attention.

Sure, it was 5+ years ago, but, it’s still interesting none the less.

Maybe Dooling will make a good Delonte replacement afterall?

" Hell yeah I'm trying to gain an advantage out here. If you can't handle it, get off the court."- Kevin Garnett
"Stats are for losers."- Rahim Morris (Tampa Bay Buccaneers)

by KG's Knee on Dec 13, 2011 1:45 PM EST reply actions  

For a back-up center

is there any chance to bring back Nenad Krstic this year?

by gocanes1 on Dec 13, 2011 2:18 PM EST reply actions  

Only if...

The Russian team stops paying him (like last time he went there) and let him out of his contract.

by Tom Halzack on Dec 14, 2011 12:59 AM EST up reply actions  

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