Celtics cant win a championship with this roster. Move must be made. Ideas!!!

by CELTICSNATION1 on Dec 30, 2011 4:01 PM EST

The window for this roster to win a championship is up. A trade needs to be made for this team before the deadline that will keep this team relavant and not go into straight rebuilding mode. I was for trading Rondo for Chris Paul or for another superstar if possible, but more importantly right now is to trade either KG or Ray Allen(to a lesser extent) to get a player or 2 to build with. Even though we have big money for this upcoming free agency there are only a couple of players that are actually work max money and I dont count on them coming here. I came up with for possible suiters that would be willing to take take there expiring contracts for players the would be willing to get rid off:

Atlanta:

Kg and bradley for josh smith and hinrich

- Josh smith is a better defender that Kg at this point and could run the floor with rondo. Hinrich play the backup 1 and 2 and can shoot as well as play decent defense. They consider his one of the best defenders against Wade.

Philly:

Andre Iguodola and Nocioni for KG

-Iguodola is a dynamic player that can also run with rondo and could cover guys like Lebron. Nocioni would probably be anemstied. Would need to make another move to get a decent big guy to replace KG.

Utah:

Paul Millsap and raja bell for Ray Allen and throw in

-Paul Millsap bring the tuffness we are lacking. He has been productive with his minutes the last couple of yrs. Raja Bell could start at the 2 as the defensive guy and three point shooter. pietris could back him up and play good minutes as well.

Golden State:

Monta Eliis and Beidrins for KG and bradley

-Ellis could be the scorer we are missing at the end of games. He is a top scorer in the league and could make a good backcourt parter to Rondo for yrs to come. Beidrins can be used as a big body that could rebound and protect the basket. I would even consider David Lee if we couldnt get Ellis because even though he is overpaid he is way more productive that KG at this point of his career.

Memphis:

Bass plus throw in if needed for Mayo

-Mayo would be a great scorer of the bench this yr and could be out replacement for Ray. Bass if no more that an average undersized big.

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1) If the Celtics cannot win, they should dump salary and players and fight for a top pick in a very deep draft. Having a Lottery pick in 2012 is big time with the list of stud players who are most likely coming out. Barnes, Sullinger, Hensen, the center from UConn, the Kentucky kids. There are 5-10 big time players in this draft.

2) I am convinced the Celts are playing possum in some ways. Knowing that all they really need to do is be 5th or 6th in the East and then turn on the juice.

by SoxAcumen on Dec 30, 2011 4:39 PM EST reply actions

Oy, this post again

by KY Celts fan on Dec 30, 2011 4:43 PM EST reply actions

really?

Major overrating of KG if you think you could get Ellis and Bierdrens / or smith / or Iguodala for that matter. Teams aren’t going to give up a wing creator for an old power forward. I would love it if Golden State were dumb enough to do it.. but highly unlikely. We are going to have to (if out of contention) to give up Ray to a contender, but what could they give us? T.ough spot to be

by P stoff on Dec 30, 2011 4:54 PM EST reply actions

bass

bass is so much more than “an average undersized big” have u watched him play this year

by bard51 on Dec 30, 2011 5:11 PM EST reply actions

+1

The Miami Heat can beat ANYONE.

(Except two or more players on a team.)

by shamgreen on Dec 30, 2011 5:14 PM EST up reply actions

DON'T TRADE RAY ALLEN!!!! He is a true Celtic. He can win games for us.

The Miami Heat can beat ANYONE.

(Except two or more players on a team.)

by shamgreen on Dec 30, 2011 5:16 PM EST reply actions

It doesn't matter if we win a few buzzer beaters

Right now we need to look to the future. You are completely correct about how good ray is and that’s why we need to trade him he has amazing value experience expiring contact playing fantastic and could bring a contender a title so teams might go all in and trade their future to us for a championship with ray. He is a gun for rent for the last year on his contract and then he can resign with the celtics

by JuJuan some moore on Dec 30, 2011 5:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

useless post!

by C'sFanfrmNy on Dec 30, 2011 6:41 PM EST reply actions

useless?

These are very tough decisions that WILL need to be made. Only useless thing here is someone who takes the time to post "useless’ about an apparently useless post. Wow..

by P stoff on Dec 30, 2011 8:29 PM EST reply actions

Useless post

If the C’s were to make any moves it’s to trade away any type of valuable assets you have and rebuild through the draft. Not to compete for a championship that we won’t get this year.

So yeah, the post is useless.

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by Bradley James McEachern on Dec 30, 2011 11:24 PM EST up reply actions

well useless in the sense

that the post says we cant win a championship with this roster and none of the trades helps us win a championship. if you believe that the roster as it stands cant win a ’ship than you must also believe that this roster minus kg or ray plus iguodala, ellis, millsap, or josh smith wont win one either.

also most of the deals take on players with long term deals whereas kg and rays deals expire after this year. so yeah… while the idea of making trades isnt useless… these ones pretty much are

by rm81 on Dec 31, 2011 1:41 AM EST up reply actions

clarify useless

My point was not no argue the value of any scenario.. since all posts involve opinion — and no one truly knows what combination of players will “click”. Did any of you pick Dallas to win it all at midseason last year? I think not. So disagree all you want – just don’t cast opinions of others aside as useless.

by P stoff on Dec 31, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions

Why should the team rule out

Going straight into rebuilding mode?

by LooseCannon on Dec 30, 2011 9:08 PM EST reply actions

Jermaine oneal

Is our second youngest starter by a full year. He is proving to be respectable on offense but his defense is terrible I think we should do whatever it takes to get Greg Monroe possible trade oneal Bradley and bass. I like bass a lot but Monroe will be a top 5 center which is the thinnest and most important position if you can get a stud at it. Is there any way we could pry him from Detroit?

by JuJuan some moore on Dec 30, 2011 9:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions

ONeal by far also had the most injuries he can run or bang with younger centers and its make KG look even worst

by emilio745i on Dec 30, 2011 9:46 PM EST up reply actions

anand Hope Doc draft another shooter ???? Austin Rivers

This team will have all the options they want at the end of the year with Ray and KG contracts off the books .Bass already here and a pg to set him up in Rondo.this is perfect for D Howard and Kevin Martin. Bring Ray back for less and hoping Moore and JJ is ready with Greg S and Wilcox Coming of the bench.Maybe even bring back KG for one more at vet.min the starters change to Rondo,Kevin Martin ,Paul Pierce,Bass,D Howard and the best in Ray Allen, K Dooling,KG, Greg S, E Moore ,J J, Wilcox, and hopes Doc drafts another shooter??? Austin Rivers. Banners 18 19 maybe even with 20

by emilio745i on Dec 30, 2011 9:35 PM EST reply actions

right now

they are concentrating on winning as many games as possible so they can reach the playoffs. tweaking will probably be made in march after the deadline.

by elvyn on Dec 31, 2011 12:48 PM EST reply actions

I disagree. However skeptical about the C's overall chances to win it all.

Sorry, I must say this! The Celtics made a HUGE mistake trading Perkins. Since that trade, it’s been open season on the Celtics defense inside the paint. Plus, it caused a huge dark cloud over the players. The only way to make up for this huge mistake is Dwight Howard or somebody close to a Perkins. Honestly, It will not happen anytime soon. I highly disagree with more trades. Trades will not help the situation. I think the C’s have a great group of players on the roster and can possibly make a run that can shock the NBA. It’s too early to make a final analysis about the C’s. The chemistry haven’t adjust yet and Doc does have a four day off coming, time to figure out, adjust the roster for the tough, long schedule ahead. Three things Doc should work on: rebounding, fast & consistent offense and spreading the floor better on defense. I’ve noticed some teams transformed their offense into a fast tempo NFL style of play – Miami Heat & Bulls. The way to stop this style of offense, a spread defensive trap from the back court – something I came up with after watching the Heat vs Celtics game. I’ll draw it up and post it soon.

by hepkat56 on Dec 31, 2011 2:50 PM EST reply actions