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Chris Paul Traded To LA Lakers

Lakers may have just gotten better. And in theory they still have a few pieces to offer for Dwight Howard too. That's not good.

Lakers set to land Paul - NBA - Yahoo! Sports

The Los Angeles Lakers have reached an agreement in principle to acquire All-Star point guard Chris Paul in a three-team trade that will cost them Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom, league sources told Yahoo! Sports. The Lakers are finalizing the trade with the New Orleans Hornets and Houston Rockets. Under terms of the proposed deal, the Lakers would send Gasol to the Rockets. The Hornets would receive Odom, Rockets guards Kevin Martin and Goran Dragic and forward Luis Scola, league sources said. "It’s not finalized, but we’re close," one front-office official involved in the negotiations said. The Hornets will receive a draft pick from the Rockets as part of the package for Paul.

Well, at least Rondo is sticking around (for now). We'll see how he feels about all this tomorrow.

This kind of reminds me of two other situations. The Red Sox pursuit of ARod and the Celtics failing to get the top pick of the lottery in '07. Both worked out well in the end, ...so there's that.

The Celtics did trade for a point guard too. Welcome to the Celtics Kenyon Dooling.

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idk if i am happy or not...

Bynum is injury prone, no more gasol and odom

who else is added on that team?

by manl_lui on Dec 8, 2011 6:37 PM EST reply actions  

WHO CARES?

Kobe is old, can’t practice
Bynum is injury prone
CP3 has a bum knee

I hope they stink up the joint -

Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk

by mcpu40 on Dec 8, 2011 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't understand NOH's motivations

Rondo is younger than Odom/Gasol. Odom/Gasol don’t make the Hornets contenders this year, and they’re 32/31 years old, respectively. They’ll be on the downsides of their careers from the moment they arrive in New Orleans. I’m not necessarily disappointed that the Celtics didn’t mortgage the whole future for a 6-month rental, but what the heck were the Hornets thinking?

by dslack on Dec 8, 2011 7:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Okay thanks

I shouldn’t have posted before fully reading about the trade.

Still, Scola is just as old as Gasol. Kevin Martin is going to be 29 by the first month of the season. So, NOH gets guys aged 32, 31, 29, and draft picks. It’s a nice haul for them, but I’d still have thought they should aim for more youth….

by dslack on Dec 8, 2011 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

oh, you mean like say ... Rondo, Jeff Green and TWO 1st rd picks???!!!

THAT would have made more sense to me, too.

I’m glad, from a Celtic’s value perspective that they didn’t take that offer. But I’m bummed that they took LA’s.

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by mmmmm on Dec 8, 2011 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

It is very curious

why N.O. did not go for the Celtics package you list, and I agree it was a big over-payment if this was offered; any idea what Plan B or C might be now?
Do we have any chance at a quality center now ?

by gocanes1 on Dec 8, 2011 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Well...

with Chandler rumored to go to the Knicks, Oden resigning with the Blazers, the only other top tier centers out there are Nene, M. Gasol and Dalembert and maybe Jordan though they may have committed with some teams over the past days.

I assume though Ainge will go after some lower cost short term center like Pryzibilla,Thomas, Battie or Gray.

by fordescort on Dec 8, 2011 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Krstic probably better than those

Any chance he can be pulled from overseas?

by gocanes1 on Dec 8, 2011 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Though..

I think there are some talented centers mentioned above who could help the C’s more then Krstic..

I do believe Krstic has clause in his contract to come back to the NBA.

Question is would the C’s want him?

by fordescort on Dec 8, 2011 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

We could do a lot worse.

It all depends on what the other options are.

With Chandler, Jordan and a few others off the table, Krstic is looking appealing.

We just need a couple of ‘solid’ centers to take the load off JO and keep him healthy for the playoffs.

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by mmmmm on Dec 8, 2011 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Oden - that wasn't a surprise

The ’Blazer’s removed any possible shred of sympathy one could have for the owners crying poor when they offer the QO to retain Oden.

My prediction is that he’ll only play a fraction of the season and so in the end, the Blazers will (foolishly) have sunk 30M into barely 2 seasons worth of games out of him.

NBA Officiating - Corrupt? Incompetent? Which is worse? Does it matter? It sucks.

by mmmmm on Dec 8, 2011 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea...

its to bad Odens body is betraying him as he maybe could of been a real stud superstar potentially if healthy.

Maybe he should trace his family tree to see if he is related to Bill Walton or Sam Bowie in some way who were both promising centers that also were plagued with injurys through there careers.

by fordescort on Dec 8, 2011 9:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Any chance Houston

would be interested in trading Pau to the C’s for a package ?

by gocanes1 on Dec 8, 2011 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

a package of bananas

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by mcpu40 on Dec 8, 2011 9:00 PM EST up reply actions  

yes, and no

- could he co-exist with KG, he’s not my kind of player – whiny, former laker, that thing he does with his hands all the time – yucky

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by mcpu40 on Dec 8, 2011 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

man you're down on danny

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by mcpu40 on Dec 8, 2011 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

you po, you -

unless i’m reading your posts of late incorrectly which could totally be true
it seems you almost hate danny ainge now

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by mcpu40 on Dec 8, 2011 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

yikes -

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by mcpu40 on Dec 8, 2011 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

no worries mcpu40///we shouldn't fight...I don't think DA is a great GM or a terrible GM...I just call him average woth weak and strong points

something about his style I don’t like …too much to go into but I’’ll keep the anger under control about DA…it probably is getting annoying

Peace

Is it Soup Yet?

by Master Po on Dec 8, 2011 8:59 PM EST up reply actions  

what, me worry?

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by mcpu40 on Dec 8, 2011 9:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok, let's move on

Let’s get JG, BBD, DW and the rookies signed

by vgarcia890 on Dec 8, 2011 6:37 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed

To be Honest, i think this year might be a surprise for the Lakers and they wont get any better or worse.. Very thin up front now, with ‘only my arms are made of titanium Bynum’ Who do you guys think they get at C? I think they have a shot now at some good aging guys who will take less, kinda like shaq, maybe they get Carl Landry.. but we won’t have to worry about them bounding on us, one of their biggest advantages..

"Victory belongs to the most Preserving" - Napoleon

by RotB_MattR on Dec 8, 2011 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

So, I'm not as up to speed about the NBA salary cap...

… but if the follow up here is trading Bynum for Howard, as rumored… that would be another move this year, right? Not waiting for Howard to hit free agency to sign? Moving Gasol helped clear salary cap room?

I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.

Wait ’til next year!

by AlohaSox on Dec 8, 2011 7:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes it did, If it's true they trade Odom.

and they also could amnesty Luke Walton, so DH is possible if Lakers offer enough pieces and Orlando wants the deal..

"Victory belongs to the most Preserving" - Napoleon

by RotB_MattR on Dec 8, 2011 7:42 PM EST up reply actions  

what pieces do they have

to trade for howard? unrealistic to expect bynum for howard up front

by BB4 on Dec 8, 2011 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

would have to be a multi team deal

bynum,artest, fisher, ebanks, character, future draft picks, not a lot of interesting guys so likely LA taking back a big contract, etc…

by craziness@analltimehigh on Dec 8, 2011 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

oh yes

RR9 back into business. so glad

by Juneauz on Dec 8, 2011 6:40 PM EST reply actions  

But Miffed?

He’s been publicly dangled for a peer. Cant be good for the old team spirit. He could make good on it b working on scoring the ball. Or, sulk.

"Celtics bring order and structure to a chaotic world"

by Tenacious D on Dec 8, 2011 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Sulk would be my guess.

Double R 9 should work on improving his game instead of sulking.

by mdg0120 on Dec 8, 2011 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

if he sulks and stinks, he'll get benched -

- and become damaged goods, and lose value – rondo isn’t stupid, he’s a competitor and he’ll be better than last year -

Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk

by mcpu40 on Dec 8, 2011 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Are the Lakers any better?

Gasol and Odom out, Paul in. That doesn’t really seem like an upgrade. And now they’re REALLY depending on Bynum to be healthy…

by theham on Dec 8, 2011 6:40 PM EST reply actions  

No

But some in the media will spin it to make it seem like they’re better, but they’re really not. Lakers lost size, scoring and defense. Gasol and Odom were the Lakers second and third best scorers, and now that they’re gone how those this trade make them better?

by C'sFanfrmNy on Dec 8, 2011 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, at least one of my Laker-fan co-workers is a bit uneasy ...

about the loss of Gasol and Odom — Bynum’s now their only big — literally the only one on the roster — and he’s injury-prone. Paul and Bryant make a great backcourt, but the Lakers seem to have forgotten that in recent years, size is what’s gotten it done for NBA champions, whether that was L.A., Boston or Dallas.

by rocknrollforyoursoul on Dec 8, 2011 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

As a basketball fan who appreciates size and length in basketball teams ( especially in the front court) and who also believes size does matter and is vital to help teams win titles, this trade may come back to bite LA.

At least I hope…lol

by fordescort on Dec 8, 2011 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

now JVG

can’t keep regarding to to lakers’ defense as BIG and LONG.

by BB4 on Dec 8, 2011 7:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree ...

he always had a man crush on that trio’s length and size.

Come to think of it I may have also…lol

by fordescort on Dec 8, 2011 8:32 PM EST up reply actions  

If they now flip Bynum for Howard

then, yeah, they are a hell of a lot better.

Remember – one of their big weaknesses all along has been Fisher at the slow. CP is a HUGE upgrade there. People here kept trying to sell CP as a big upgrade over Rondo and that was probably a bit over-stated at times. But there is no question he is a major, major upgrade over Fisher.

If they can shore up the loss of bigs by bringing in Howard, they will have three very, very strong complementary pieces.

That’s the key thing – having pieces that complement each other and a Kobe-CP-DH trio would definitely be that.

If they don’t get Howard, then sure, they are not unbeatable by any measure. But they will still be damn good.

Sucks. But I’m not completely surprised.

NBA Officiating - Corrupt? Incompetent? Which is worse? Does it matter? It sucks.

by mmmmm on Dec 8, 2011 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok, but they’re still missing scoring at PF and SF positions.

by C'sFanfrmNy on Dec 8, 2011 6:53 PM EST up reply actions  

They'd have three volume scorers who can hurt you from all parts of the court

from DH banging inside to Kobe and CP from anywhere. Combine those three with even just a couple of defensive minded forwards and that is going to be a formidable unit.

NBA Officiating - Corrupt? Incompetent? Which is worse? Does it matter? It sucks.

by mmmmm on Dec 8, 2011 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

one thing too will paul have the ball or kobe?

paul is a good play maker but kobe is best when he has the ball….

by craziness@analltimehigh on Dec 8, 2011 7:03 PM EST up reply actions  

It will be interesting if they can coexist well...

I hope they both fight over who gets the ball etc…lol

by fordescort on Dec 8, 2011 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

heh - and they'll all be learning a new offense

since Brown has already said ‘No’ to the triangle.

So they will have some growing pains.

But they are two talented. In time, that’s a wicked combination to try to stop.

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by mmmmm on Dec 8, 2011 7:09 PM EST up reply actions  

i think getting away from the triangle will help the lakers IMO

what they do for PF and backup PF and C will be interesting. im hoping the lakers dont get dwight and this move sets them back like before they got gasol and bynum stepped his game up. i dont ever want to see kobe get another ring!

by craziness@analltimehigh on Dec 8, 2011 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, I definitely agree.

I’ve always thought the Triangle was overrated. It only works if you have a super-stud who can clean up the mess when it inevitably breaks down (i.e., Jordan, Kobe). It’s not surprising that it’s effectiveness has waned when Kobe has not been 100%.

I’m just saying that Kobe and Bynum have a big learning curve and of course, so does Paul.

NBA Officiating - Corrupt? Incompetent? Which is worse? Does it matter? It sucks.

by mmmmm on Dec 8, 2011 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree 100%...

LA was a great team due to Kobe of course, but also due to there talented and long frontline which 2/3rds of has been dismantled with this trade.

It is a positive silver lining I see in Paul going to the Lakers at least in the short term.

There will be be indeed alot of pressure on Bynum and his knees this year.

I just hope LA does not try to move Bynum for Howard down the line at somepoint…but knowing LA they probably will.

by fordescort on Dec 8, 2011 6:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Only if they get D.H

Happiness consists in contentment.

by house5 on Dec 8, 2011 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Is anyone surprised?

CP3 made it clear he did not want to play in Boston especially with this current roster’s championship window closing soon.

by C'sFanfrmNy on Dec 8, 2011 6:40 PM EST reply actions  

Nope. I've been warning about LA all along. I just thought they might get DH first.

They STILL might get DH before this is all over.

NBA Officiating - Corrupt? Incompetent? Which is worse? Does it matter? It sucks.

by mmmmm on Dec 8, 2011 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you crazy?

If I’m in rebuilding mode, I don’t take Kevin Martin, Scola and Odom for anything. This just guaranteed that N.O. will never get better, now that their cap space is filled up with injury prone, soft, and limited players. Horrible deal for N.O.

by libermaniac on Dec 8, 2011 6:56 PM EST up reply actions  

3 valuable pieces

they could keep one and trade the others for more pieces and picks elsewhere or keep 2, and so on….not a bad haul really but surprised no draft picks involved

by craziness@analltimehigh on Dec 8, 2011 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I see now that Okafor is also going to LA.

Not sure why he wasn’t mentioned in initial reports. His inclusion makes this a good trade for the Lakers also. Him, Bynum and Artest are a good starting front court to go with Kobe and Paul.

by Cousin It on Dec 8, 2011 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Bummer indeed....

of all the teams he had to go to the Lakers…I feel sic.

The only good news is though this move probably may help LA long term when Kobe retires etc and (gulp by helping them maybe get acquire Howard down the line) I think in the short term it will hurt them (unless they replenish the front line with other quality bigs) as they will be losing 2/3rds of there big, long and effective front line in Gasol & Odom.

by fordescort on Dec 8, 2011 6:43 PM EST reply actions  

get Delonte ...no Dooling...he ain't no West

Better get up kissing up to Rajon Danny……swear to him it was all a terrible conspiracy …“lies I say …lies”

Is it Soup Yet?

by Master Po on Dec 8, 2011 6:44 PM EST reply actions  

Danny:

“It was all smoke and mirrors while we worked on the Sweetney deal….”

by sswallow on Dec 8, 2011 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

kidding about the tattoos but lately you've been high as a kite on delonte

and as low as a subsonic bass on danny -

happy mediums, happy place -

Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk

by mcpu40 on Dec 8, 2011 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

hmm - okay -

keep rooting for delonte’s almighty return to the green if that’s what you want

=

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by mcpu40 on Dec 8, 2011 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

sorry guys

My reply was so gosh darn funny it got you in a fight.

by sswallow on Dec 8, 2011 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm working on a lego star wars cruiser with my son

- they weren’t like this when i was little -

5k

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by mcpu40 on Dec 8, 2011 9:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Prepare for the other piece to fall, folks.

They still have Bynum to trade to Orlando for Howard.

I had a bad feeling this was where all this was headed – i’m still sick to my stomach though.

NBA Officiating - Corrupt? Incompetent? Which is worse? Does it matter? It sucks.

by mmmmm on Dec 8, 2011 6:44 PM EST reply actions  

Yep

Howard is going to LA now I bet. We really need some new blood. I’m looking forward to seeing Johnson. He could be great surprise

by vgarcia890 on Dec 8, 2011 6:48 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed...

At first I thought this trade was a bad deal for the Lakers. They give up viritually all of their healthy frontline players. Generally, they are not good enough at defense on the wing anymore without guys to protect the basket.

They I remembered the Bynum and other stuff to Orlando for Howard and the basket is now protected again by a great defensive presence.

Crap.

by MurphyHOF on Dec 8, 2011 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Watch how ESPN and other media sources spin this trade...
Hornets working to finalize details on 3-team deal to send Chris Paul to Lakers, Gasol to Rockets and Odom, KMart, Scola to NO, sources say.

NO just got better adding Odom, Scola and Martin. The Lakers and Rockets just got worse. The Lakers just lost they’re second and best scorers plus size and length. The Rockets just lost their two best players and only got one good player in return.

Tell me how is this a win for LAL or Rockets? Unless Orlando get’s Bynum and LA get’s Howard.

by C'sFanfrmNy on Dec 8, 2011 6:48 PM EST reply actions  

I agree that LA lost effectiveness up front.

But CP3 is a massive upgrade in their back court.

I haven’t looked at the numbers in detail yet, but he’s gotta be worth +10 in production over Fisher.

NBA Officiating - Corrupt? Incompetent? Which is worse? Does it matter? It sucks.

by mmmmm on Dec 8, 2011 6:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea...

like I mentioned the other day…

we will probably see ESPN now spin this as the dream back court of Kobe & Paul…yuke,

But there is no spinning ESPN can do that LA has lost 2 big impact front line players in Odom and Gasol (who ESPN has gone ga – ga over both in the past few years) and that LA is now thin up front at least in the short term.

by fordescort on Dec 8, 2011 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

but wait

i thought chauncey billups and ron mercer were the dream backcourt

by MR. CAFETERIA on Dec 8, 2011 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

lol...

I remember like it was yesterday when Rick Pitino coined those 2 with that phrase.

Though Mercer fell of the face of the earth, Billups turned out to become a great player at least.

by fordescort on Dec 8, 2011 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

TGINR

THANK GOD IT’S NOT RONDO.

And, the Lakers just lost their biggest asset against the Celtics, literally.

My wife is going to be very happy, I’m pretty sure she bought me a Rondo jersey for Christmas.

by sswallow on Dec 8, 2011 6:49 PM EST reply actions  

odom...

is he still gonna do the kardashian show? now thats hes in new orleans instead of LA? you know i LOVE that show… NOT!

by StarzNBarz on Dec 8, 2011 6:50 PM EST reply actions  

She will just dump him for a different power forward. Blake Griffen needs to keep on the look out for loud annoying trust-fund armenians.

by sswallow on Dec 8, 2011 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

BYNUM FOR HOWARD?

the lakers would have to give up more then just bynum to get howard

by wal mark on Dec 8, 2011 6:52 PM EST reply actions  

Worrisome

Looks like the Lakers can reload. Damn, hope Danny can work something out for Dwight. If the Lakers get him, looks pretty solid for them. ARRGHHHHHH!!!!

by kro168 on Dec 8, 2011 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

NOOOOOO

I like Nash, but he’s way too old. Rondo might be mad enough to show the world that he can be the best point guard in the league.

by VtCeltics on Dec 8, 2011 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I fear LA is planning on getting Dwight Howard.

How do they get so lucky?
and then why would they give up two big men if they do not see one coming their way soon.
Danny dude!!!

Ex fide fiducia

by missyP on Dec 8, 2011 6:54 PM EST reply actions  

Totally agree

Lakers wouldn’t give up on Gasol and Odom if they didn’t plan on getting Dwight as well. Conspiracy I tell you!

by kro168 on Dec 8, 2011 6:56 PM EST up reply actions  

dwight will be a laker - it's prophecy

the players still run the show -

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by mcpu40 on Dec 8, 2011 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I think David Stern was behind this trade. Just a gut feeling. lol

by C'sFanfrmNy on Dec 8, 2011 6:54 PM EST reply actions  

Howard will be next for the Fakes...

And you know what… they will still be the Fakers….

Kobe makes everyone around him worse…

Did the little worm sign an extension too?

Celtic Chat Handle: Bird

by David Henderson on Dec 8, 2011 6:56 PM EST reply actions  

Howard to Lakers ONLY at trading deadline

If you are the Orlando GM, the only way you should trade Howard for Bynum is if that’s all you can get by the trading deadline. Given that Bynum is one more leg injury from becoming the next Sam Bowie, you need to wait to see if he can stay healthy.

by libermaniac on Dec 8, 2011 6:59 PM EST reply actions  

Otis, don't be dumb

It’s a big risk so Lakers will have to give up more than Bynum. Metta World Peace isn’t a bargaining chip. Too volatile for any team.

by kro168 on Dec 8, 2011 7:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Can you imagine the combination of Artest and Stan Van Gundy????!!!!

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by mmmmm on Dec 8, 2011 7:03 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Guys..

Lets all take a breath.
Theres isnt a rule that doesnt permit Danny to discuss trade scenarios with other teams.
Keyon Dooling is not the backup if we dont get Paul, he will fill the backup position for Rondo.
Im pretty sure Danny is going to resign delonte along with baby and green.
What he needs to sign is another two big men and were set.
Do you remember that we have two fantastic rookies filling multiple position, and were also going to sign another rookie!!
Lets all take a breath!!!!

by ZM15 on Dec 8, 2011 6:59 PM EST reply actions  

That works for me!

Come on Danny – the dalliance with Yoko (CP) is over! Time to bring the band back together!

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by mmmmm on Dec 8, 2011 7:02 PM EST up reply actions  

crazytown

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by mcpu40 on Dec 8, 2011 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

VERY HAPPY.

I am ecstatic about this trade for the soul reason that Rajon Rondo will now be staying in Boston, where he was drafted. Rondo is younger and more durable and has improved each year as an overall basketball player. We can now move on and start building a roster to compete. To be honest im more angry that the Knicks got Tyson Chandler.

by Lasky21 on Dec 8, 2011 6:59 PM EST reply actions  

yup

chandler to the knicks is a big move that will fly under the radar.

by StarzNBarz on Dec 8, 2011 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

big move for them....

exactly what the knicks lacked last season a true center who can defend. now they have one who thrives in the fast break, win/win/win for them…just need a PG now and with baron davis, arenas likely hitting FA’s they might sign one of them cheap too

by craziness@analltimehigh on Dec 8, 2011 7:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I _am_ glad that we kept Rondo and I am glad we did not pay such a ridiculous price for CP3

but I was really hoping that CP would somehow end up at LAC or SAC, not LAL. Sigh …

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by mmmmm on Dec 8, 2011 7:01 PM EST up reply actions  

if kobe and pauls knees are both bone on bone

it will be interesting to see how this lakers team holds up with them both and of course bynum assuming he stays….and who plays PF? artest?

sad part is im sure they will add some more players who get cut too…they already signe kapono for shooting and have been in contact with delonte and have had an eye on baron davis’ situation

by craziness@analltimehigh on Dec 8, 2011 7:00 PM EST reply actions  

I’ll take Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen on my squad anytime. They might be veterans, they might be older, but when healthy and energized them dogs can bite. They’ve been battle tested for 4 yrs.

They’ve played in the worsts environments and most times came out on top. So Danny will have to get creative with the budget he’s working with and put some soldiers around the starters that are willing to grind and battle.

by C'sFanfrmNy on Dec 8, 2011 7:00 PM EST reply actions  

I'd love to see Powe back in Boston!

I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.

Wait ’til next year!

by AlohaSox on Dec 8, 2011 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

So what about next year?

by Drew Berg on Dec 8, 2011 7:03 PM EST up reply actions  

David Stern was behind this trade folks. lol

by C'sFanfrmNy on Dec 8, 2011 7:01 PM EST reply actions  

as long as they have

mike brown coaching, no need to worry

by SDK on Dec 8, 2011 7:01 PM EST reply actions  

LOL - well, there is that!

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by mmmmm on Dec 8, 2011 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

The way the red sox and pats stay competitive is they build for the future while winning today. Can anyone even look at next year and say the C’s will be in a good place? They should have started looking last winter, now they’ll have plenty of cash with only mid level guys availab0e to be picked up. It’s sad that teams like the Clippers, Thunder, Grizzlies,ect… Even the heat who have no cash left picked up Battier, look for the C’s to return t0 a mirror of the early 2000, late 90’s team.

by Drew Berg on Dec 8, 2011 7:02 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Basketball a bit different

Basketball is actually less of a team sport than baseball and football. You only need 1 to 2 players to become competitive especially if they are superstars. I think Danny was ok not to trade the big 3. Celtics have great cap room flexibility next year and we have a great environment for basketball in Boston. We can’t worry about what the other teams are doing now. Danny needs to focus on what’s at hand.

by kro168 on Dec 8, 2011 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

No, it actually isn’t.

For that matter, baseball is the epitome of a non-team sport — getting the best players and putting them together will typically give you the best team. Much less so with basketball and football.

by kozlodoev on Dec 8, 2011 7:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think the Lakers could afford to add Dwight in the mix, not with the money that’s tied up with Kobe.

/Waits for correction

by itsgabriel on Dec 8, 2011 7:02 PM EST reply actions  

In a trade, they can.

Bynum’s salary is only 5M below Howard’s. So they can toss in Blake (5M) to match salaries.

So money isn’t the issue. The issue is whether that’s attractive enough of a package for Orlando.

If not, they could try moving those salaries through a 3rd party team to try to get the pieces that Orlando wants.

I don’t want it to happen. It sucks. But unfortunately, it is very, very possible.

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by mmmmm on Dec 8, 2011 7:07 PM EST up reply actions  

In a nutshell, Yes.

I say again. Otis, don’t be dumb. Please look carefully what you are trading for.

by kro168 on Dec 8, 2011 7:09 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s trading for something. As opposed to “trading for nothing” over the summer.

by kozlodoev on Dec 8, 2011 7:20 PM EST up reply actions  

well I was wrong about the money...I stand corrected

but I just don’t think it will happen

Is it Soup Yet?

by Master Po on Dec 8, 2011 7:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope you are right!

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by mmmmm on Dec 8, 2011 7:16 PM EST up reply actions  

it would take a third team IMO

bynum wont do it alone and who else do they have really thats attractive in a deal? and while im not 100% i believe they freed lowered there cap number $11m or so and at least $25m total cuz of the luxury tax….

by craziness@analltimehigh on Dec 8, 2011 7:09 PM EST up reply actions  

i want nene

since we obviously wont be getting dwight.

ainge needs to convince nene this is his best place to chase a ring and that we need him, want him….get it done ainge, somehow

by craziness@analltimehigh on Dec 8, 2011 7:05 PM EST reply actions  

Lakers need another franchise player to win another title.

Shaq has given them 3, Gasol has already given them 2. Oh and Kobe is still there masquerading as the alpha dog. :)

by LarryBird33 on Dec 8, 2011 7:06 PM EST reply actions  

Well said

Kobe’s past his prime. He can’t take over games like he used to before. He’s an A- superstar now so he needs help.

by kro168 on Dec 8, 2011 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, the thing is, when he had Derek Fisher as his back-court mate

who are you going to put your best perimeter defender on (your ‘Tony Allen’ if you will?). Teams always have put it on Kobe, not Fisher.

Now, they will have to think about which poison to swallow.

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by mmmmm on Dec 8, 2011 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

No low post defense or offense

Remember they just lost Gasol and Odom. They have no low post offense except for Bynum. They can’t put twin towers in anymore. The defense would just adjust to a zone in the perimeter since there’s only 1 guy on the low block. Yes, the Lakers got something but they also lost 2 bigs.

by kro168 on Dec 8, 2011 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

My comment was only talking about Kobe's probable effectiveness now.

I agree, they are now hurting up front.

But if they DO somehow snake Howard, then they will be balanced low-high on both sides of the court. They could insert just a couple of ‘competent’ forwards in the mix and still be a devastating unit.

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by mmmmm on Dec 8, 2011 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

No doubt if they get Howard and another competent big of some kind at the 4 position, LA gets back its the length and size they have currently lost in the front court.

So lets all hope they do not get Howard for starters and somehow the C’s can !

by fordescort on Dec 8, 2011 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Huge Celtic Fan's Take on Trade as LA Resident

I bleed Green.
One of the best days in my life was Game 6 of 2008 — redemption after 22 years.
One of the worst was Game 7 of 2010 — almost broke my heart.

Today is more like 2008 than 2010. I watch every Laker game and know my enemy! GaSoft and Lamar were the Fakers 2nd and 3rd most powerful option. After them, you have injury prone Bynum with who next — Matt Barnes, Luke Walton (if his back allows him to play), and/or Ron Artest (or whatever he chooses his name to be).

Does any Celtic fan tremble at that starting 5. I wanted Paul bad. I have serious reservations about Rondo. But you win with bigs and the Fakers just got really, really soft up front.

Now do I fear the Bulls, Heat, New York with Chandler …… ABSOLUTELY!!

by BirdEsq on Dec 8, 2011 7:08 PM EST reply actions  

+1

Live in LA to, from Boston. Gasaul and Lamar were definitely scary together.

by sswallow on Dec 8, 2011 7:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea...

I hate to admit it but it was true that the trio frontline og Gasol, Odom and Bynum was a formidable and effective one (and gave the C’s trouble) and I am glad along with others it has finally been broken up.

by fordescort on Dec 8, 2011 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Me too. Plus I was sick of looking at Gasol and Odom’s faces on TV.

by sswallow on Dec 8, 2011 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Now do I fear the Bulls, Heat, New York with Chandler …… ABSOLUTELY!!

Absolutely not!!

by C'sFanfrmNy on Dec 8, 2011 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Bulls, Heat - yes. NY? Not sure. They still have this problem ...

a lousy coach who doesn’t know how to play the half court game.

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by mmmmm on Dec 8, 2011 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Here’s the spin from the media starting 12/09-6/12
-————————————————————————————————
1.If the Lakers get DH12 they will then be the favorite to win it all pushing the Heat aside.
2. Heat second favorite.
3. Bulls and OKC are good, but might not be enough to compete with LAL or MH.
4. Celtics can still contend, but back-to-backs can hurt their chances to be legit contenders.
5. Knicks are back because they added Chandler to their roster.
6.Spurs are old!
7. Mavs aren’t contenders.
8.Some Celtics fans will overreact about the the Knicks, Lakers, Bulls and Heat.

by C'sFanfrmNy on Dec 8, 2011 7:10 PM EST reply actions  

And keep laughing...

With Griffen and Howard standing next to each other?

by sswallow on Dec 8, 2011 7:13 PM EST up reply actions  

that would be great to see

and as long as he’s not a laker im cool with it.

by craziness@analltimehigh on Dec 8, 2011 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Living in LA, I like watching the Clippers and hate (I mean, hate hate) anything to do with the Lakers. Clippers have been really getting better.

by sswallow on Dec 8, 2011 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Totally agree with you

Basketball is really about bigs. Size truly matters in basketball. Still, I’m sure a lot of fans were hoping CP3 was going to Boston along with Dwight. It will be very interesting to see what the Magic will do especially since its clear Dwight wants out of Orlando. If I had to choose between CP3 and Dwight, I’d get Dwight in a blink of a heartbeat.

by kro168 on Dec 8, 2011 7:12 PM EST reply actions  

Agree

Size does matter and if it is a choice of Paul or Howard Id choose Howard also.

I just hope Ainge can get him here some how.

by fordescort on Dec 8, 2011 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Gawd that would be great. I just don't see how it can happen.

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by mmmmm on Dec 8, 2011 7:20 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe they could get dwight drunk off his arse

while danny dresses up like mitch cupcake with contract in hand and trick him into signing it….free green beer for everyone if this happens

by craziness@analltimehigh on Dec 8, 2011 7:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Hi all. Haven't been here in a while.

Make me feel better about this. I live amongst many many Lakers fans.

"There's no place like it, and it's ours." - Stephen King on Fenway Park

by 808BostonSportsFan on Dec 8, 2011 7:14 PM EST reply actions  

Ha ha ha!

So true…

I thought we’d never win it all. And then we went down 0-3 to the Yankees in 2004, and I thought it was the end of the world.

Wait ’til next year!

by AlohaSox on Dec 8, 2011 7:45 PM EST up reply actions  

YAY!!! I GET MY RONDO BACK! (hopefully)

But concerning Howard going to LA, if Otis is smart, it can’t happen. If he’s an idiot, yes it can happen. The salaries can work, but its the talent that doesn’t match up. Anyone in their right mind wouldn’t trade for Bynum. He’s a punk, can’t really score, and has horrible injury problems!

by Blooroo22 on Dec 8, 2011 7:14 PM EST reply actions  

so far Bynum makes Delonte look healthy

I can’t get over Delonte possibly going to LA and we sig Dooling…good lord no

Is it Soup Yet?

by Master Po on Dec 8, 2011 7:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Tell me about it! You know Master Po, we seem to have been saying the same thing throughout this hectic week. Great minds think alike ;)

by Blooroo22 on Dec 8, 2011 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

Losing Delonte to of all teams LA I hurts alot.

As a big Delonte fan, I think its a big loss for the bench and team overall as he was a great fit with the C’s current core.

by fordescort on Dec 8, 2011 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

there is no reason we can't sign Delonte too...we need 4 guards who already can play

Rondo is going to have an UNREAL year. Watch him go 15-7-12 and become a decent shooter from everywhere

by wahz on Dec 8, 2011 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Well played Danny, well played.

Not since 2/24/11 have I seen this kind of cunning strategy and leadership.

by jjfraz on Dec 8, 2011 7:15 PM EST reply actions  

Zen master

With out him they ain’t winning anything. Brown is not gonna coach this team. It’s gonna be Kobe all day!!! Size is what there missing now. It took 4 years for kobe and Shaq to win a championship, intill zen came in. It’s gonna be drama in Hollywood again. I can smell it.

by CBleedsGreeN on Dec 8, 2011 7:19 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Here goes some Celts fans becoming scared.

At this point I don’t care. I have no reason to be scared of LAL or any team. This Knicks are still not good with or without Chandler. The Knicks still lack depth at the bench and they play no defense. The Heat and Bulls will still be the same no major changes.

The Lakers will always suck regardless I can’t wait until they come to BOS 2/3/12.

by C'sFanfrmNy on Dec 8, 2011 7:19 PM EST reply actions  

adding chandler and grant hill makes the knicks a lot better

it costs them billups but with the likelyhood of baron davis, gilbert arenas, etc…getting cut they have a chance to add another above average PG only cheaper

by craziness@analltimehigh on Dec 8, 2011 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

No I doubt it, but we’ll see. I don’t jump on bandwagons or make premature predictions.

by C'sFanfrmNy on Dec 8, 2011 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

no bandwagon just my opinion

knicks were a good team last year but lacked a real center and bench. they can take care of all those things.

but we will play the wait and see game, its cool

by craziness@analltimehigh on Dec 8, 2011 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Not implying that about you.

by C'sFanfrmNy on Dec 8, 2011 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Hard to Imagine...

Kobe and CP melding. Mamba has liked working with ball in hand.

"Celtics bring order and structure to a chaotic world"

by Tenacious D on Dec 8, 2011 7:19 PM EST reply actions  

Lakers trade garbage for Gasol, and Gasol for CP3, and get rid of 2 thirty something year olds with monster contracts for a 26 year old superstar. Are the Lakers SHEDDING salary in getting Chris Paul??? Unbelievable.

by Yogesh Raghunathan on Dec 8, 2011 7:20 PM EST reply actions  

Players do...

They want to play in LA. LA has the nicest weather in the Country, if not top 10 in the world. Living in Boston it’s hard to realize how much differant it is in SoCal.

by sswallow on Dec 8, 2011 7:23 PM EST up reply actions  

People seem to forget Kobe is 33yrs old, he’s no longer the player he was 5, 10 years ago.

by C'sFanfrmNy on Dec 8, 2011 7:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I dont think this trade really helps them at all. If they don’t get Dwight, then its not a good trade.

by Blooroo22 on Dec 8, 2011 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Ugh

1. There’s no way the Lakers would trade two of their best bigs unless they knew they had a very realistic shot of landing D-Ho. LA is a perfect situation for him (both on and off the court) and he WILL go there – the only problem was whether they could secure the third star to keep the team competitive with the loss of depth. CP3 does that, and along the way greatly improves their backcourt.

2. My guess is that Danny knew this, and he knew that the only way to block this situation from happening is if he acted aggressively to land CP3 now and try to lure him to a long-term deal, even if that meant trading Rondo. To me, you have to try to make that deal work in order to prevent your biggest rival from automatically punching their ticket to the finals every year. Ask yourself, would you rather keep Rondo, build a team around whatever comes in the future after the Big 3 leave (along with that uncertainty), and see the Lakers stockpile around Kobe, Dwight, and CP3? You potentially just got your wish.

3. A Boston team, even with Rondo, is not beating that Lakers team this year (with kobe, cp3, and dwight), not with this crammed schedule and lack of training time. I don’t care what else LA adds; I don’t think its happening. Our schedule is absolutely brutal this year with the back-to-back-to-backs and the marquee match-ups; Doc is going to have to give guys multiple nights off at a time in order to be ready for the playoffs.

by dococ23 on Dec 8, 2011 7:22 PM EST reply actions  

I agree with (2)

That, to me is the only sane explanation for offering as much as he was offering for Paul.

I did put the suggestion out there earlier that Danny may just be trying to drive CP3’s price up.

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by mmmmm on Dec 8, 2011 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

um yeah.

but can someone say anything to make me feel better?

"There's no place like it, and it's ours." - Stephen King on Fenway Park

by 808BostonSportsFan on Dec 8, 2011 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

1. Paul and Rondo equal out. Rondo is the superior defender and ALWAYS plays up to Paul.
2. Pierce and Kobe pretty much equal each other out.
3. No more Gasol or Odem to match Garnett.

We will be fine.

by sswallow on Dec 8, 2011 7:29 PM EST up reply actions  

i agree ...

if the C’s are healthy and fully rested come the Playoffs. That’s why the schedule is such a big deal this year; unless the Big 3 get a TON a rest during the season by taking games off, they will not make it past the brutal regular season and the Eastern Conference playoffs with enough left in the tank to face a Lakers team with this group.

i disagree also with your 1; unless Rondo develops a more complete offensive game he remains inferior to CP3.

3 assumes that Dwight is not on LA, which I think he will be.

by dococ23 on Dec 8, 2011 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

rondo / paul

Yes, in individual comparison Paul is obviously more talented offensively…

But, what about when he is guarded by the most talented defensive pg in the league, you know, OUR Rondo?

by sswallow on Dec 8, 2011 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder if Paul's bone-bone knees can guard RR9

If they decide to put Kobe on Rondo, Paul will be guarding Ray. And unlike Fisher, he can’t guard him.

by Celtics own the refs on Dec 8, 2011 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

i dont watch paul much on the defense

how is he? not stat wise, is he a slacker on defense?

by BB4 on Dec 8, 2011 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Paul is a very good defender

Not as good as Rondo but still very good

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by mmmmm on Dec 8, 2011 8:07 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

this is not a concern

in most situations simply because Rondo remains an offensive liability late in games. you can play off Rondo in the 4th because he lacks the confidence to run the offense and make shots. we saw this two years ago. On defense, you just need a smart PG who won’t gamble and will help out when necessary, and Paul can do that.

by dococ23 on Dec 8, 2011 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Rondo has always been better than Paul, because he is a Celtics. Now he is 2X better because Paul is a Laker.

I’m very confused why Celtics fans don’t understand this…. Otherwise you are a lakers fan… Are you a lakers fan?

by sswallow on Dec 8, 2011 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh that makes sense.

by muckduck on Dec 8, 2011 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey if I’m fighting for my platoon, I don’t look at the enemy all creamy like… seriously. Winning is will and talent is subjective. I root for my guys, and have no respect for other teams or their players. This is KG logic and it makes perfect sense, otherwise, what is the point of being a fan?

by sswallow on Dec 8, 2011 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

difference

kg has to go and PLAY against these guys, so he needs the edge, your just being a jerk by having this mentality…

I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!

by piccolomair on Dec 8, 2011 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

A jerk to CP3… Really?

He would rather play handball in Norway than live in Boston and play for the greatest basketball in NBA history? and I’m a jerk…

I’m a Celtics fan since birth. It ain’t going to change. Rondo is my PG. Period. KG plays against these guys, I root against them. This is the definition of being a fan.

by sswallow on Dec 8, 2011 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

my argument would be

if you are a celtics fan by birth, why does the back of the jersey seem to matter to you so much. Whether it be cp3,kobe, howard, rondo…as long as that player helps you win why should you care who comes and goes? Wouldnt a true celtics fan want his TEAM to achieve success by any means necessary, even if it meant saying goodbye to a beloved celtic for a chance to keep a rival from getting a strong piece and also putting yourself in line to win another championships?

I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!

by piccolomair on Dec 8, 2011 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

welll....

First off, Rondo is my favorite player in the league.

If numbers and stitching made people NBA players, I would be in the NBA. Players make up the team, not their laundry.

Honestly I just become emotionally invested in the humans that make up a team. I want them to win, as a team, as Celtics, as individuals. And until they aren’t Celtics, I am on their side 100%.

Same reason why I want PP to retire a celtic. Not because I think a 38 year old PP is going to be the best available SF, but because he is a part of the team.

Obviously I understand the contention, and that their is the other side. I don’t know, I guess playing sports growing up always instilled this in me.

by sswallow on Dec 8, 2011 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Middle ground and fandom just don’t correlate right?

by muckduck on Dec 8, 2011 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Keep in mind...

Kobe is also dealing with bone to bone issues in his knee(s) hich I assume will not get better this year as he is a year older now.

by fordescort on Dec 8, 2011 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

he had that experimental surgery in europe this summer

so it will be interesting to see how that works. it did wonders for bartolo colon in baseball. if it works could save palyers careers like brandon roy, etc…

by craziness@analltimehigh on Dec 8, 2011 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

saw a few weeks ago too that the lakers are hopeful

rashard lewis gets cut and they can get him…dont know if that would work but they would have a much better offense with paul, lewis and dwight IMO….

by craziness@analltimehigh on Dec 8, 2011 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

I think Danny focused too hard on Paul and not re-building the bench. I’m starting to be concerned about Ainge instead of the C’s.

by C'sFanfrmNy on Dec 8, 2011 7:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Gonna go to a bar and have some food and a beer.

And ponder what Danny’s next move will be.

What big C’s are left on the table?

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by mmmmm on Dec 8, 2011 7:28 PM EST reply actions  

trade makes no sense for hornets or rockets

martin is a decent player, but he’s 28, and he’s not really a franchise guy. don’t know why the hornets would want him instead of rondo + green + 2 picks.
and now the hornets are on the hook for scola’s contract for 4 years, and 2 years for odom. they’ll be just good enough to be a perennial first-round exit from the playoffs.
don’t relaly understand what the rockets are doing, either. gasol won’t really help them, they don’t have any stars to pair him with. and while they do get draft picks, couidn’t they have just traded away martin straight up if that’s all they wanted?

looking at this trade, you have to wonder what houston and NO are thinking. the hornets have gotten themselves deeper into cap trouble, and the rockets have essentially just helped the lakers land an ace in exchange for draft picks they easily could have gotten elsewhere.

by Kraidstar on Dec 8, 2011 7:29 PM EST reply actions  

Just saw this tweet
Mike_Bresnahan Mike Bresnahan
Lakers’ effort to acquire Chris Paul is a “done deal,” source says. Lakers trade Odom, Gasol + also might receive veteran C-F Emeka Okafor.

It would utterly suck ace if they got Okafor thrown in, too.

by Mencius on Dec 8, 2011 7:31 PM EST reply actions  

way big suck

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by mmmmm on Dec 8, 2011 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

we need to deal with what's in our own backyard

- we still have rondo, pierce, allen, garnett, and doc – i still believe in this team
.

Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk

by mcpu40 on Dec 8, 2011 9:03 PM EST up reply actions  

For sure.

But I still would rather the Lakers were as weak as possible.

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by mmmmm on Dec 8, 2011 9:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Paul is the key to Howard... pretty obvious

Cause that current trade without Howard makes no sense…..

Celtic Chat Handle: Bird

by David Henderson on Dec 8, 2011 7:31 PM EST reply actions  

If Lakers also get Okafor it makes sense

He is no Howard, but is a solid big. I know it brought us a championship, but is has been 4 years now since we have had anything big happen here. I guess I did not understand how hamstrung the team became when it got Ray and KG. Oh well, I will still be there this season cheering them on and hope for the best as the three amigos being their slow fade into the sunset.

I also hope that Rondo has improved his jump shooting and FT shooting.

by vinnie on Dec 8, 2011 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Lakers fans apparently unhappy. lol

I’ve been on some LA sports sites and blogs, and there are some Lakers fans that aren’t too happy with this trade. lol

by C'sFanfrmNy on Dec 8, 2011 7:37 PM EST reply actions  

why?

do some think they wont be able to acquire howard?

by BB4 on Dec 8, 2011 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

well....

rational people wouldn’t trade dwight for a frequently broken-down bynum. i’m sure many other teams could offer a better deal. but NBA GMs, particularly otis smith, make some highly questionable decisions. like new orleans trading CP3 a good but not great shooting guard and 2 cap-killing older big men.
and then there’s stern to think about. the lakers have gotten so much good fortune in the last 15 years it’s not even funny.

by Kraidstar on Dec 8, 2011 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Cause they should have traded Kobe for CP3...

and kept the healthy big guys

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by David Henderson on Dec 8, 2011 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably Dannys plan

He just pretended to want CP3 so Fakers would bet the ranch on him.

by Daveonthecape on Dec 8, 2011 7:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

lol - i truly do NOT think that is that far fetched!

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by mmmmm on Dec 8, 2011 8:41 PM EST up reply actions  

No lie is effective unless it has the flavor of truth to it.

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by mmmmm on Dec 8, 2011 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

CP3 wanted no part of Boston

So he’s joined the enemy. That much sweeter when we kick there butts.
CP3 may not last long due to knee. Also, remember Dwade, Lequeen, Bosh choke.
We really need a center, but who?

by Daveonthecape on Dec 8, 2011 7:38 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

If they get Okafor then this trade looks a lot different

by MaxAMillion on Dec 8, 2011 7:39 PM EST reply actions  

its over folks

I got hammered for this on here in june. but we will finish no better than 5th maybe all the way down to 7th in the east this year. Bulls. heat. magic. Hawks. and pacers will finish with a better regular season record than us. we may even finish behind the bucks.. .. we are too old and this years schedule will be brutal. it was fun while it lasted.

by FatJohn on Dec 8, 2011 7:39 PM EST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

I'll remind you of that when we win it all this year

Keep positive.
The season is short which is in our favor
We do need a center though…

by Daveonthecape on Dec 8, 2011 7:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

if the REST the big three and finish 7th

and the big three have low minutes, they’ll be ready to STRIKE when it counts
i still believe, and always will -

even when they were losing 18 in a row that one time, at band camp -

Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk

by mcpu40 on Dec 8, 2011 9:28 PM EST up reply actions  

With or without Howard I don’t see how this will make the Lakers better? Chris Broussard, ESPN will spin this trade. Realistically the Lakers got smaller, and they lost their second and third scorers.

by C'sFanfrmNy on Dec 8, 2011 7:41 PM EST reply actions  

i think without..howard.

this is a loss, great wing, but the inside will be incredibly weaker… but if they are able to acquire howard, then l.a. will be celebrating

by BB4 on Dec 8, 2011 7:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Depressing.

It’s almost like the rest of the league is conspiring to make the Lakers stronger.

And Okafur too? Holy cow.

Cetlics need to make sure Lakers don’t get Howard. That will be very bad news for us.

Disappointed that people don’t see Rondo’s worth, easily top 5 PG

by florida dodger on Dec 8, 2011 7:42 PM EST reply actions  

Howard will a Laker....

No matter what we do… face it…it’s already done

Celtic Chat Handle: Bird

by David Henderson on Dec 8, 2011 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

What....

What if someone offers a better deal than Bynum??

The Magic are not owned by NBA; surely some other team is not stupid enough to let Lakers get this strong.

by florida dodger on Dec 8, 2011 7:48 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

I also hope other teams are not stupid enough to let Lakers get this strong.

But I do still worry about it !

by fordescort on Dec 8, 2011 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Sadly, I have to +1 FatJohn, although I see a 4th or 5th place finish

But I still have my tickets and will be there, because this is going to be a different kind of season. I really don’t think there will be any coasting this year and I think the guys are going to fight hard nearly every game. I Just don’t think the legs and talent will be there to compete in the end.

by vinnie on Dec 8, 2011 7:42 PM EST reply actions  

rest,,,

i would rest the big 3 at least once every 3 games. all we need to do is make it into the playoffs with a .500 record.

by Kraidstar on Dec 8, 2011 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

How many bad knees is that just between Kobe, Paul, and Bynum. They’ll be lucky to even make it to the postseason with everybody healthy. Unless Otis throws the whole league a kick to the gut, the Lakers are sitting ducks.

by redbridge13 on Dec 8, 2011 7:44 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Massive fail for Ainge

No other way to put it. I know he was the one who was traded when the 80s Celtics decided to break up their starting five, but he has to understand team chemistry and individual personalities. He has to know that Rondo won’t like being shopped. So you don’t do it unless you have a great chance to finish the deal. Obviously there are no guarantees, but it never seemed like the Celtics were close. So what was Ainge thinking? Even after it looked unlikely, he still went for it all in. Now, he didn’t get Paul, and Paul winds up with the Lakers who somehow keep Bynum which means they could also potentially land Dwight Howard in the future. Well at least Marquis is coming back, the first two years have worked out so well, and Keyon Dooling is on his way. Ainge did a great job putting together the title team, and I will always be grateful for that – and he has done well to re-sign Paul and Ray. but otherwise, his moves all have not worked since winning the title.

by bigperm33 on Dec 8, 2011 7:46 PM EST reply actions  

Massive Fail?

LIke…. he made a massive preemptive failure the day before any actual trades have happened? If you could hook me up with some NFL scores for this Sunday I could make some serious cash.

by sswallow on Dec 8, 2011 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

We can still win it

Keep the faith…
I personally never liked CP3.

by Daveonthecape on Dec 8, 2011 7:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

ditto

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by mmmmm on Dec 8, 2011 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I think...

Ainge can not be blamed for trying his best to upgrade the team by trying to acquire one of the best point guards in the NBA IN Paul and ( lets not forget ) which also may have led to possibly luring one of the best centers in the NBA in D. Howard to the C’s down the line, by using Pual as bait.

Ainge gave about 8 different trade scenarios to NO’s and did his best to try to make a deal to improve the C’s, but NO’s just did not want to trade with the C’s which is not Ainges fault.

I still praise Ainge for being so aggressive in trying to improve the C’s, even though he came up short this time around.

But I have faith in Ainge and believe he will have something else under his sleeve to help improve the C’s in the short and long term.

by fordescort on Dec 8, 2011 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Rondo is going to be fine.

Seriously, he’s a professional who’s been learning this game with veterans. He’s seen his best friend traded. He’s been the subject of trade talks before. He’s not a child.

Jeezus. Why do people think of Rondo as if he’s in 2nd grade?

He knows this is a business. He also knows that Danny has to act strategically and it’s pretty clear in hindsight that Danny was driven by two strategies: (a) keep CP out of LA’s hands and if that failed then (b) make sure he cost a hell of a lot.

Neither of those say anything negative about Rondo.

Danny probably has explained this to Rondo already and if not I’m sure he will.

I think Rondo is going to have a great year. If he pumps his FT% up by just 5-10% … watch out!

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by mmmmm on Dec 8, 2011 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

$$$$$ wise this doesn't work

The players NO is getting are worth wayore than what they are sending out. The trade doesn’t work without there being more than is reported.

Maybe that buys Danny more time to work the phones.

by PTrain on Dec 8, 2011 7:47 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

hornets are way under the cap

and they’re probably sending okafor to LA as well, so it evens out.

by Kraidstar on Dec 8, 2011 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Not it doesn't

Use the espn trade machine. The players named it doesn’t work.

Doesn’t matter. Trade is off now.

Yippee!!!!

by PTrain on Dec 8, 2011 9:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

It is kind of funny

I know Danny is hamstrung in terms of what he can do, but while the Lakers are bringing in Chris Paul and the Knicks Tyson Chandler, we have to get excited about Marquis Daniels and maybe Delonte coming back, and possibly signing Keyon Dooling. I love my Celtics, but it just doesn’t have the same buzz. :(

by vinnie on Dec 8, 2011 7:50 PM EST reply actions  

heard you guys got

keyon dooling….

I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!

by piccolomair on Dec 8, 2011 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

ya.

but it makes some people wonder why we needed a lockout.

Lockout was supposed to mkae small teams stronger….not the Lakers.

by florida dodger on Dec 8, 2011 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Celtics fans, get a grip!

This always happens whenever we can’t get our way. Some of us start to complain and act as if it’s the end of the world. So the Lakers got CP3, big deal because he didn’t want to be Boston anyway. Why do some of u care about a player that didn’t want to play for your favorite team? Be made at Ainge for pursing a player that had no intention on playing in Boston.

We hate the Lakers and Heat so why should any of us care what moves they make? Some of you should be thankful the Celtics have fall of fame players and one of the top PG in the league. Focus on the Celtics and not what other teams u hate are doing.

The season has not started yet and already you’re digging their graves. You should be lucky to have 3 superstars that are still capable of competing. We all know what this team can do when healthy and surrounded by talent.

by C'sFanfrmNy on Dec 8, 2011 7:52 PM EST reply actions  

Is CP3 trade official?

I thought trades could not be done till Dec. 9??

by florida dodger on Dec 8, 2011 7:54 PM EST reply actions  

yea but players could meet with owners

and handshake deals were made, so there u go.

while the exact stipulations arent done, its been agreed that cp3 is going to be a laker, and all reports say that the 3way with houston is how its going down…

I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!

by piccolomair on Dec 8, 2011 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

PREDICTION

Rondo has a Career year. 1st team all star. Assist record. Defensive player of the year. Better shooter…. Maybe even hits at least 3 foul shots during the season.

by sswallow on Dec 8, 2011 8:01 PM EST reply actions  

+1

Celtic Chat Handle: Bird

by David Henderson on Dec 8, 2011 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

i hoping like crazy

that both rondo and bradley come in with much much improved jumpers but doubtful…sigh

by craziness@analltimehigh on Dec 8, 2011 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

he doesn't need a better jump shot (though improvement never hurts)

he needs a better free throw shot.

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by mmmmm on Dec 8, 2011 8:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Made a post last season about the NBA owning the Hornets.

And that David Stern would eventually gift wrap Chris Paul to LA… jokingly of course.

Now here we are.

by LarryBird33 on Dec 8, 2011 8:05 PM EST reply actions  

The Lakers Will Not Get Howard

This is a major mistake for the lakers. The celtics just got very lucky. The lakers have the worst frontcourt in the league and they will not be getting howard. The reason is what is going on in new york. Chandler is about to sign – New York will be able to ship chandler and /or Amare to Orlando. That beats Bynam any day. Howard will land in New York and the fakers will not have a frontcourt. They also need to keep cp3 and Bynam healthy or the lottery awaits. Good luck on that.

by jwsbeverly on Dec 8, 2011 8:06 PM EST reply actions  

Sigh...

Favorite player on my least favorite team. First world problems…

by muckduck on Dec 8, 2011 8:06 PM EST reply actions  

LOL

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by mmmmm on Dec 8, 2011 8:58 PM EST up reply actions  

keep drinking coolaid

Rondo lacks the desire to get better at ft%. lacks the humility to realize that with tendons torn in one arm he is best helping the team by sitting on the bench and letting a healthy carlos play. lacks the maturity to not be so bullheaded and stubborn. he has worn out his welcome and will probably be traded for ben gordan

by FatJohn on Dec 8, 2011 8:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

If it looks like a troll… smells like a troll…. talks like a troll…. it’s probably CP3… is this CP3?

by sswallow on Dec 8, 2011 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

keep drinking coolaid

Rondo lacks the desire to get better at ft%. lacks the humility to realize that with tendons torn in one arm he is best helping the team by sitting on the bench and letting a healthy carlos play. lacks the maturity to not be so bullheaded and stubborn. he has worn out his welcome and will probably be traded for ben gordan

by FatJohn on Dec 8, 2011 8:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

big lose

Ainge did his best but still failed. cp3 is the real deal. rondo is a amnesty candidate lol. no other team has any interest in rr. wonder why??

by FatJohn on Dec 8, 2011 8:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

im interested in dannys plan...

and maybe delonte wanted more money/playing time, we dont really know. heck he still could be back but IMO unlikely….

by craziness@analltimehigh on Dec 8, 2011 8:33 PM EST up reply actions  

regarding the poll

i always thought it was all or nothing cp3. dont think DA has an plan b?

by BB4 on Dec 8, 2011 8:21 PM EST reply actions  

I have a new strategy and it will shock those here who know me.......

As you all know, I am not a Jeff Green fan. However, as I was in the car and coming back from an errand, I was trying to think how I can get over this funk I am in as a result of this trade. And then it hit me:

First, I am going to pretend that Jeff Green did not play here last year and that the Celtics just got him in the offseason. This accomplishes two things: makes me forget how unimpressive he was last year and also gets me excited about adding to the roster a new player with great potential.

Second, I am really going to work hard to rid myself of all of my past impressions of Jeff Green. Right now, in my mind, he becomes the X-factor for this team. He could be that offseason free agent pickup that ends up making a difference.

This is hard for me to do, but it is all I have right now and I am really going to try to make this work for me. Otherwise, I will sit here thinking that the big moves in the offseason are Keyon Dooling (who I actually prefer over Delonte) and bringing back Marquis Daniels.

Wish me luck.

by vinnie on Dec 8, 2011 8:31 PM EST reply actions  

i dont have high hopes that daniels can stay healthy

and why sign him if you plan on keeping green? will green play SG this year i wonder???dooling isnt a bad pickup, i like him as a backup.

by craziness@analltimehigh on Dec 8, 2011 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I am also worried about...

Daniels health and would of preferred someone like Grant Hill or even old pals Sasha Pavlovic or Deshawn Simse ( a young, athletic, talent with upside I think) be signed by the C’s instead.

by fordescort on Dec 8, 2011 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounds like they are using Green as a trade piece. Dont really want marquis back either. I would really like to see Grant Hill on the C’s. Dooling is such a non-impact player, things arent looking good so far.

by Shane Yeo on Dec 8, 2011 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Good luck vinnie...

I also hope Green can be the Xfactor this year.

The one good thing about the Paul trade not going through is Green can remain a Celtic at least for the time being.

I really think he has the talent, athleticism and upside to help the C’s short term and possibly long term.

Time will tell.

by fordescort on Dec 8, 2011 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

just to update

according to chris broussard-
new orleans got 2 first rounders, odom, scola, dragic, and k.mart. Not bad
lakers get Paul and Okafor-damn not bad
Dont know exactly what houston got other than pau so far…

so there we are

I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!

by piccolomair on Dec 8, 2011 8:36 PM EST reply actions  

They still have Bynum which means Dwight Howard is next to go to LA. NBA is dead to me. Still love the C’s but they are going to have a tough go of it this year and in the future. This also shows us that Rondo just doesn’t have a high trade value and that other star players don’t want to play with him. NBA is weak might as well make it a 4 team league and call it a day.

by mr1313 on Dec 8, 2011 8:38 PM EST reply actions  

yikes

pessimistic much?

I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!

by piccolomair on Dec 8, 2011 8:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Dear rondo

Sorry about the trade rumors, I actually wanted this trade to push through but good thing it didn’t. But can u please stop doing basketball charity on the off season. You could work on your shooting and FT skills and maybe you wouldn’t be mention on trade rumors. Im glad your still a Celtic!

by CBleedsGreeN on Dec 8, 2011 8:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

This is fine

The Lakers just got a lot stronger in the back court, but that’s ok because we have someone to push around their weak front… oh wait..

Is there a ‘Redo-sies Clause’ in the new CBA? Could really use someone to clog the lane.

Celtics have bigger fish to fry than worrying about the Lakers. Having a team that can go toe-to-toe with Chicago an Miami chief among them.

by JBourdon on Dec 8, 2011 8:42 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

so the knicks get chandler, the heat get battier, the lakers get paul, and we get Dooling. Awesome…

by Shane Yeo on Dec 8, 2011 8:42 PM EST reply actions  

Dont understand why, that have to be trying to trade Green??…. These moves dont make sense.

by Shane Yeo on Dec 8, 2011 8:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Well...

I think you need a 3rd string small forward behind Pierce and Green and thats what Daniels will be, though he can spot at times in the back court also.

Though Daniels was not my personal preference adding him to the roster will now solidify and give the C’s a nice deep and talented small forward rotation.

Now the C’s need to get some depth and talent at the center position and possibly power forward position especially Baby is not resigned.

by fordescort on Dec 8, 2011 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Possibly.

But independent of that, assuming Daniels actually IS healthy, he provides a lot of value because he can play effectively at SF, SG and PG. That makes him very valuable as a bench component.

He was playing very, very good basketball before he got injured. If – and that’s a big IF – he’s healthy, he’s a very good pickup.

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by mmmmm on Dec 8, 2011 10:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Rondo's reaction???

It’s going to really interesting to see how Rondo reacts to all of this. It appears he will remain with the Celtics this season.

We all remember how much he sulked/pouted after losing Perk, now when he was almost traded who knows how deeply he could sink. If Rondo follows the same immature path that he did for several weeks last season, then the Celtics could be in deep trouble.

Here’s hoping Doc, Ray, Paul and KG can convince Rondo that he is a valuable member of the Celtics and to play as such…

by warnerjohn on Dec 8, 2011 8:43 PM EST reply actions  

CP3 is his arch-nemesis. I foresee total annihilation.

by sswallow on Dec 8, 2011 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

ive had a question, recently reading comments about rondos reaction

you claim he is the embodiment of what the celtics stand for, grit, passion, heart, professionalism, do what it takes to win, and all that..
…then you turn around and wonder how bad he will sulk and how so and so should step up and and cheer him up and keep his head on straight….

isnt that sort of strange? How can a guy be the embodiment of celtic pride, yet be an overly sensitive dude at the same time? Shouldnt the consensus be that rondo wont be irked at all by all of this stuff, not the opposite?

I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!

by piccolomair on Dec 8, 2011 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Its all just silly fan talk, ultimately.

Attaching dramatic emotional motivations for everything that happens makes for good ‘story’ (so obviously the media loves it). In truth much of what happens is due to more tangible reasons like … plantar fasciitis.

Rondo was very banged up during the second half of the season. I suspect that had far, far more to do with his (relative) slump in level of play than anything ‘emotional’ did.

That’s not to say he’s not emotional. Lots of players are emotional. But I find the idea that Rondo is such an emotional cripple that he let it bring his game down silly and un-founded.

Jeeze, listen to this kid in interviews. He’s like ice at times. He’s not a piece of emotional tissue paper.

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by mmmmm on Dec 8, 2011 9:09 PM EST up reply actions  

ah

thanks

I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!

by piccolomair on Dec 8, 2011 9:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Hope it is all just idle speculation and Rondo is a mature leader or else...

Hope you are right and Rondo really is much more controlled, mature and not overly disruptive. Normally when there’s smoke there’s fire and there have been many rumblings of Rondo’s immaturity and disruptive nature during his time in Boston from much more than just fans.

Not often would a young, talented and well put together PG be put on the trading block twice in three years if there weren’t some serious issues that were unseen by the public.

And listening to interviews shouldn’t be used as a basis for judging a player’s true intentions or emotional state. Players today have managers, publicists and many others who help them speak publicly much better than in years past.

Using that logic I would bring up someone like Tiger Woods - if you listened to his interviews over the years he was like ice at times. Always gave the concise, politically correct, unemotional answer. No one could have guessed the emotional monster that was lurking underneath for so many years…

by warnerjohn on Dec 8, 2011 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

It's better not to guess at all. I'm not.

I’m simply pointing out that superficially, he appears in interviews at odds with the notion that he’s a piece of tissue paper.

I am very much down on pretending to read minds and presuming to know what makes these guys tick.

That’s why I assert it’s simpler to just look for tangible, easy to understand reasons – like injuries that are real and reported and known facts.

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by mmmmm on Dec 8, 2011 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Houston got hosed lol!

We are going to give up every body for a shaggy werewolf that only excels in pillow fights……silly, bad move I hope McHale wasn’t behind this.

by Celticnation on Dec 8, 2011 8:46 PM EST reply actions  

houston is making a play for nene as well

the starting 5might possibly be
lowry
lee
williams
pau
nene

and they have some nice young players like montijunas, morris, and parsons who can pan out, not to mention 2 first rounders going forward. They can quickly rebuild into a killer team within the next 3 years….

I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!

by piccolomair on Dec 8, 2011 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Pau will be in a walker in 3 years

Its not like you seem him putting in work, KG and Ray make sure they take care of their bodies, Gasol just stays out of direct sun light and eats paella.

by Celticnation on Dec 8, 2011 9:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Are we going to get another big man or what?

by jurrasicearl on Dec 8, 2011 8:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

finally a good question

.

Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk

by mcpu40 on Dec 8, 2011 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

dalembert

is available…..i think thats the best big man available right now if nene goes to houston as assumed

I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!

by piccolomair on Dec 8, 2011 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

TWO

I think, based on the way the last few years have gone, I think we need TWO quality big men still. Life in the post is just brutal.

Then we’d be pretty solid all around.

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by mmmmm on Dec 8, 2011 9:19 PM EST up reply actions  

i think J.O. is set to have an adequate - very good year

and a solid compliment to him in the paint could only help that – we don’t have that at ALL right now and w/o it, no banner 18

Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk

by mcpu40 on Dec 8, 2011 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

rather have nene or chandler but dalembert wouldnt hurt my feelings

however all are very big long shots for us. nene is the one we may, MAY be able to convince to come here cuz he said he wants to win and feel wanted, moneys not and issue but still very doubtful…$12m to $5 is a big drop off

by craziness@analltimehigh on Dec 8, 2011 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

johnhollinger John Hollinger
breaking: @ESPNSteinLine says no deal.

We can hope.

by Mencius on Dec 8, 2011 8:54 PM EST reply actions  

Stein replies:
ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
It was not immediately clear, sources said, if three-way trade involving Hornets, Lakers and Rockets is merely snagged or in jeopardy

by Mencius on Dec 8, 2011 8:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Only one thing to do..

Get rid of KG, Ray and PP for all the picks you can next year (or young players with good upside) and start tanking right now! CP would have made things very interesting this year and as a lure for DH, but it’s all over now. Face it, we’re not an elite team anymore….just 3 good old guys and one very good (but now probably PO’d) young one and a bunch of scrubs. Playoff fodder at best, with no money to spend, and a cold northern destination without the bright lights where almost no FA wants to play.
Surely in the frenzy to grab players now, there will be teams out there with cap room that would be willing to give up picks for our used to be big 3. Next years draft is loaded and with a lottery pick, LAC pick and a couple of others maybe we could at least get a fun team to follow, cause it’s gonna be a long, long time before we’re a contender for a title again! Realism sucks!

by OhioGreen on Dec 8, 2011 8:55 PM EST reply actions  

Tissue anybody?

I’ve been to about 25games in my life. This team deserves this. Good luck guys I think I became Bruins fan the NBA business model just sucks!

by richardlight86 on Dec 8, 2011 8:55 PM EST reply actions  

If you build it..

Should we be worried about Boston’s desirability in respects to free agents? It doesn’t seem that any players are salivating at the thought of playing in green.

by JBourdon on Dec 8, 2011 8:56 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

No deal!

David Stern just blocked the trade! Laker fans just got trolled hard lol

by GreenRay20 on Dec 8, 2011 9:08 PM EST reply actions  

ha

that was pretty awesome….owners called stern and had him shut it down…..thats awesome, scary, hilarious, and sad all at once…

I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!

by piccolomair on Dec 8, 2011 9:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Amen. That it is.

Wonder what the upshot of it all will be. Is the NBA’s stance that they can’t trade Paul at all, or just not this particular deal?

by Mencius on Dec 8, 2011 9:10 PM EST up reply actions  

i think its mainly cuz the owners all partially own new orleans

so they wont allow a trade that would seemingly mean a potential super team, cuz it would make it harder for them to run their own teams….

bq, WojYahooNBA
Owners were irate in Board of Governors meeting with Stern, livid that the league-owned Hornets were allowed to make Paul deal, sources say.

kinda like in some fantasy bball leagues, when one guy decides hes gonna give up and he decides to give his best friend his best players and everyone else in the league gets the vote to veto that

I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!

by piccolomair on Dec 8, 2011 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

sorry about format

WojYahooNBA
Owners were irate in Board of Governors meeting with Stern, livid that the league-owned Hornets were allowed to make Paul deal, sources say.

I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!

by piccolomair on Dec 8, 2011 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank God

Over the Monster -- SB Nation's Resident Red Sox Site
USG

by Ben Buchanan on Dec 8, 2011 9:10 PM EST reply actions  

league blocked the deal

hahahahaha…..what does that mean for boston?

by craziness@analltimehigh on Dec 8, 2011 9:15 PM EST reply actions  

Hornets are the big winners here!

Dumbass Rockets traded away ALL their starters. Lakers chemistry is unbalanced now.(ha ha).The Hornets just became instant contenders.

by Pat's apologist on Dec 8, 2011 9:17 PM EST reply actions  

Old Man Stern...

Blocked the deal…YIPPEEEEE!!!!!!!!

by KubuliCeltic on Dec 8, 2011 9:19 PM EST reply actions  

Wait - what? WOAH!

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by mmmmm on Dec 8, 2011 9:21 PM EST reply actions  

redirect to new thread

http://www.celticsblog.com/2011/12/8/2622419/dead-deal

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by mmmmm on Dec 8, 2011 9:22 PM EST reply actions  

DAMN! Am i the only one that wished this trade would've went down?

That would’ve been disasterous for the Lakers & that would’ve made me happy.Paul is damaged goods.Kobe & Paul on the same squad would implode. Sure wish this went down. Even the edition of Howard to the Lakers would be HILARIOUS. I mean Howard in L.A. How big is his ego & how funny would that be watching him try to seperate basketball from his acting abilities.(sarcasm)

by Pat's apologist on Dec 8, 2011 9:27 PM EST reply actions  

my head is spinning, make it stop

.

Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk

by mcpu40 on Dec 8, 2011 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Anybody have a update on Baby's status?

Last I heard Ainge wanted to sign him.

Was the plan to sign and keep him or sign and possibly trade him?

I think now that the Paul soap opera is over, along with acquiring a couple of bigs, Babys status is the next biggest agenda for Ainge.

by fordescort on Dec 8, 2011 9:35 PM EST reply actions  

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