2-14-11 Boston Celtics Practice Notes
Practice Notes
- Doc Rivers on Paul Pierce: "He's good. It's ok, everything is good. I think there is some bruising obviously, swelling. But everything he can play with. It's one of those things where someone hits you with a baseball bat on your arm, it's going to take time to heal. He got kicked a couple games ago in his foot, and then he got hit on the hand in the same way in the same game and they both are reacting. Obviously the [All-Star] beak is coming at a great time. We have one game left. For precaution, just so nobody kicks him or hits him, we're not going to practice him tomorrow either, which will be difficult for Paul because he likes to practice. Play him in the game. I know the coach of the All-Star Game, so he probably won't play a lot in that game."
- Doc says that Pierce's hand injury is the one that could take longer to heal, because it's tough to play a game and not get hit in the hand.
- Delonte West practiced in full again and Rivers will practice him hard tomorrow. If he feels fine after practice, Rivers hopes to get West about ten minutes on Wednesday.
- Shaquille O'Neal's achilles injury is not healing at all. They originally thought it was going to be one or two games, but since the injury has not healed, they're not sure if Shaq can play on the West Coast trip, but they're hopeful. X-rays were done and there was nothing there.
- Semih Erden looks to be ready for the beginning of the West Coast trip.
- Before the start of practice, Rivers talked to his team at mid-court and recapped the series of events leading up to the Dwayne Wade flagrant 1. He mentioned to the team how Rondo was crushed on a legal pick. How did the C's respond? Kevin Garnett set a legal pick right back. How did the Heat respond? Dwayne Wade lost his cool and picked up the foul, allowing the C's to shoot two free throws which was ultimately the difference in the game.
- "I've said it forever, but toughness is taking the hits and walking away," Rivers said. "To me that's toughness. Toughness is not reacting, that's a weakness. That's what we keep trying to tell our guys. We're going to make tough plays. We're going to set hard picks. We're going to defend. The game is going to be physical. We got to accept that in return as well and just keep playing through it."
- Doc didn't particularly like Rondo going over to the Heat huddle during the non timeout but he did admit that he was right and commended his high basketball IQ.
- Doc said that he's seen a complete change in the way that Von Wafer sees himself: "I think it has opened up his mind about basketball. I think Von in the past thought, 'Give me the ball and I'll try to score.' He didn't know there was a second and third option on the offensive play. And the defensive part he didn't know that as well. He's really one I trust. He's one the players trust. I would say early on they really weren't feeling Von because he was still trying to be just that and I think he's really done a nice job."
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When Rondo crashed the huddle, I didn't realize it was a non-timeout
So technically he did nothing wrong, but it was a sneaky move nevertheless.
Shaq’s condition worries me. We need this guy!
Yes, completely legal.
He has every right to stand wherever he wants when there was no timeout called.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
Wonder if they change that since it has negatively affected his highness
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 14, 2011 3:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Rondo over in their huddle was awesome IMO. Him knowing the rules and knowing how far he could push was my favorite part of the day( well that and the jumpers he made). I can’t wait for these guys to get the needed rest they deserve. The final stretch is approaching and I can’t wait to see what the C’s have in store for us.
SAVE THE PLANET. GO GREEN!
by CaliforniaGreen on Feb 14, 2011 3:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions
If anyone can get a photo of that - it would be terrific to have posted
and nice rundown on the days events Jimmy. An ugly win was certainly acceptable after falling to the Mavs and Lakers the past week.
so doc saying pierce is "good"
means the MRIs didn’t show any damage right? I just didn’t see any mention of the MRI itself so I’m just being cautious :)
"Take it to the hoop, there's a dance involved." - DJ Tommy
I hear the achilles is a particular injury you dont want to mess with, and playing thru a fair amount of pain could further the injury. You want him playing now, injured, or later when it matters and rested.
Stinks the amount of rest he is getting is not helping.
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 14, 2011 3:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
man, how big are these health updates?
forget scores and stats, health is the only thing that matters right now
anyway we can get Celtic nation to do some “get healthy stay healthy” chants right now? anything to send positive vibes for team green could make difference, you never know
good to see that Wafer is coming around and guys are starting to trust him, most players with low BB IQ never “get it”, we need anything positive we can get out of him
Om Tare Tuttare Ture Soha
Pronounced
Om-ta-ray-too-ta-ray-too-ray-so-hah
A chant to GREEN Tara, compassionate healing mother.
She might laugh at the idea, but is also known as the only goddess who responds with no prior devotion.
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 14, 2011 3:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i feel like short round
INDY! COVER YOUR HEART!
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
by remembering9ergods on Feb 14, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
:) Good for a chuckle
Your 1st thought at mere mention of a female deity is the bad writing of by far the 1st Indiana Jones movie?! I might suggest you spend a little more time reading things that are not sports related.
Be glad you were not joking about Kali, all I am gonna say.
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 14, 2011 5:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
just reminded me of the chant
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
by remembering9ergods on Feb 14, 2011 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
I actually like the way Von Wafer has been playing...
he had a few turnovers yesterday, but I really like the way he drives towards the basket. I know that he is not a good back up for Paul, but I would like to see Doc give him more playing time once the roster gets back to normal. Who knows, maybe if Doc would have given some of these lower bench players more playing time, they wouldn’t be in such a bind.
by longlivethe80's on Feb 14, 2011 3:58 PM EST reply actions
agreed
he’s a lot like TA as far as his ability to drive to the rim except he actually has some handle and can knock down jump shots.
pretty remarkable to see a player like him buy into our system, 2 years ago no way this guy passes up an open jumper or busts his hump on the defensive end trying to frustrate the kobe/lebrons of the world. he would have let them go by and ran up court for a breakaway…
"Take it to the hoop, there's a dance involved." - DJ Tommy
and where is gody???
how isn’t luke getting ANY PT?
need to keep the minutes down for these guys.
"Take it to the hoop, there's a dance involved." - DJ Tommy
Solid question.
I’ve been wondering the same.
But it seems Doc is more comfortable relying on Perk/KG/Baby rotation for heavier minutes rather than put Gody in. Dangerous if you ask me… but what do I know?
You’ll definitely see Gody out there on back to backs, or in games where they don’t have two days rest, and Doc doesn’t want to run starters out as much. But it seems, as long as those 3 guys got enough rest (two days between games) Gody will stay on the bench.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
+1
Id like to see Luke also get some court time, especially since he has played well when given minutes in previous stints during the season.
I would like to see the C’s test him out at the 3 also a bit.
Though he may be to slow to match up against some of the quicker, smaller 3’s he may be able to be utilized a bit against some of the bigger, slower 3’s.
He's Got to Earn It
Luke hustles for rebounds, which is cool, but D and getting his shot going? Spotty. When he’s ready, Doc will give him the ball
I think Luke has played rather well in the minutes he has played so far this year...
and has earned to get at least some playing time, especially now with the bench as thin as it is currently.
Luke has (as you said rebounded well) when given minutes this year,
Has also shown a nice knack for scoring with the jumper he takes so confidently and with drives to the basket he also takes at times on offense.
He also hustles and defends rather well considering he is undersized for a power forward and is usually defending bigger and stronger power forwards.
I think with Daniels out it would not hurt to give Luke a test run playing the 3 position at least against the bigger and slower 3’s that he would match up better against since we need the help until either Daniels returns or Danny picks up another back up 3.
That's pretty high praise Doc just gave him.
I think he gets more opportunities all through this second half.
The Shaq news is extremely worrisome
A big guy like that with an achilles injury (they still have never said exactly what the injury is) that is not healing can’t be good news. UGH!
I hope they are looking into eccentric strengthening as a treatment
achilles’ tendinopathy normally responds to just one of two solutions that I know of: a) do absolutely nothing (rest) or b) eccentric strengthening.
Neither is guaranteed but imho nothing else really works short of surgical remedies for drastic cases. ’Seems like they tried the former (rest). Time to try the latter.
team should invest in a Hyperbaric chamber
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
by remembering9ergods on Feb 14, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
doc is great
i’ll take it back if we start loosing.
But really a good guy great fit for the player we got.
Just about all good news
I particularly like that Doc went over the Wade flagrant… to hammer home how important it is for players to control themselves on the court… and follow the rules. I credit the big media brouhaha — including Jeff’s “He’s Our Jerk” article — for making SURE that they could not ignore this aspect of their game. All good, now.
About that Heat game: I know everyone feels great about the win, as do I. But let’s not forget that LUCK had a lot to do with that win too. We were LUCKY that the Heat missed so many of their open 3s, including the last one. We were also lucky that the refs allows us to play our game for 3.5 quarters — they were unusually terrific for that time (and then, of course, they reverted to their norm, which is horrible officiating).
And one more bit of luck: we were lucky that the Celtics are in the Heat’s heads.
We cannot count on ANY of these pieces of luck being there again.
It's luck that they're in their heads?
Huh?
Oh and I’ll take them shooting 3s all day rather than driving to the rim for easy buckets. I don’t call that luck. It’s not a high % shot, even if it’s wide open.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
It's luck insofar as it's being there next time is concerned...
(A manner of speaking.) And they usually hit a much higher % of their 3. Had they hit their normal %, we would have lost.
Luck was on their side,too......
PP injured, gets 1 point; no Dwest, Shaq, Semih, JO, Quis….
by csfansince60s on Feb 14, 2011 6:04 PM EST up reply actions
On their Side
Indeed. Talk about not taking advantage. Sizzle is right—we want them to shot long. It’s not their strength. Not Luck. Percentages. And not luck we are in their heads and under their skins. That’s an extension of playing hard D and not falling over because it KING JAMES and FLASH WADE and chrisbosch.
Yeah, in their heads...now
I do not think we can count on that being true permanently. Their team is still growing. One day, they will pass the Celtics… tho I doubt before (at least some of) the Big 3 go byebye.
As for the 3s… seems we’re always forced to prove assertions around here :)
- Heat team 3pt% this season = 37.8%
- Heat team 3pt% on 2/13/11 = 18.75% (3/16)
- # of 3pt shots they would normally have made in yesterday’s game: 6
- # of 3pt shots they ACTUALLY made in yesterday’s game: 3
- Extra points they would normally have scored: 9
- Margin of victory: 3 pts
(And most of their missed 3 pointers were open shots.)
We good?
as Tenacious D pointed out - luck was also on THEIR side
What was Pierce’s FG% in this game versus for the season?
0 for 10 (this game) vs 5 for 10 (season) == 10-15 pt difference (depending on how many 3PT shots and ‘and ones’.).
My 10-15 pts beats your 9! Not to mention I get to tack on the existing 3-point margin of victory! :-D
Heh – if their 3PT shooting AND our Paul had both shot at season averages, (and you change nothing else) then the margin of victory would have been 4-9 pts. Boo-ya!
They were lucky Paul was sick.
Hey knick fan here. just want to congratulate the celtics on prison-bitching the Miami Heat.
Of course as one can expect from a such collection of prima donnas, the excuse-machine went into overdrive. “Oh the Bulls went through this with the Pistons before their dynasty.” Of course the Bulls didn’t go on an orgy of self-promotion as the greatest team ever at any point prior to 1991. Seems like Lebron crowned himself Caesar Augustus before he’s even won a major battle and thus far his attempts at invading Britain have failed. Only matter of time till he gets stabbed in the back by Tiberius(Knicks with Melo, Bulls).
lol
"The celtics were a way of life. A group of people so diverse you cannot imagine; working together, day in and day out for a common goal. What was necessary was ten players, two baskets, thirteen thousand people and one basketball. We would decide what was done with that one basketball." ~ Bill Russell
Thanks, I hope you guys land Melo too.
I miss the old rivalry. I still marvel at what Bernard King was able to do. Too bad his knee went out and changed his career.
Well its good to hear some positive health news lately...
with Nate’s injury he suffered against LA being not being serious, Pierce’s MRI being negative, Delonte scheduled to play on Wednesday and Erden maybe being ready to play when the C’s take there west coast trip.
Shaq Achilleas heal problem not healing is worrisome though.
I hope Shaqs only has a strained Achilles as the C’s have stated and not a more serious Achileas heal issue like a tear or maybe spurs like Larry Bird suffered with in the late 80’s which resulted in season ending surgery.
I'm hopefull that Shaq will get better...
He’ll get better sooner than later I believe.
can Shaq
be fitted with a roller skate? I just want to read his tweet to Kobe after the Celts take banner 18 later this year.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
moon boots!
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
by remembering9ergods on Feb 14, 2011 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
wafer is coming along
he’s starting to understand his role and the system and it was especially gratifying to see him take and knock down those 2 open 3’s. I could do without the pistol action afterward but at least it shows he has confidence. It also shows how much we need some athleticism on this team. I hate to harp again on losing TA but TA and Wafer on the floor together would have caused a lot of havoc. Danny really misjudged and mishandled the Tony Allen situation. Boy could we use him now.

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