Peter May's Potential C's Targets

by Jeff Clark on Feb 18, 2011 6:21 AM EST in Boston Celtics Rumors

Peter May published an article with several targets for the Celtics either in the trade market or via free agency. I have to give him credit for putting names out there instead of vague notions of a "clear value-add kind of guy" or some other sort of cop-out phrase (guilty). With that said, naming names makes it easy to shoot ideas down, so I'm in the mood to fire away. Here are May's ideas and my thoughts on each (read his thoughts first).

Josh Childress: May starts out with this line - "The Suns signed him to a five-year, $33.5 million deal last year and already are regretting the move." - I didn't stop reading there but I could have. The Cetlics will likely be willing to sacrifice a little of the future (picks, unproven players) for a shot at a title, but I doubt they'd sign up for something that long term without it being a star or potential star player.
Richard Hamilton: Not a new name by any means. I just can't fathom a trade that matches salaries and makes sense for the Celtics, so they'll wait and see if/when he gets bought out and make an offer then.
Troy Murphy: See Hamilton, Rip. The Celtics just don't have $12M in salaries they are willing to unload to match Murphy's deal (a testament to Danny's wise spending by the way). I agree with May and others that he's probably headed to Orlando after a buyout.
James Posey: Now we get a little interesting. Posey isn't the player he once was and as May states "might have already played his best basketball." That said, I think he has a little bit of a Hedo-Turkoglu-back-to-Orlando sort of appeal where he could fit right in to a system that he knows and guys that he connects with and contribute a little of that old magic (so to speak). May offers this idea - Quis and Nate Robinson for Posey. It works salary wise and actually saves the Pacers money because Quis comes off the books this year. He also offers up the idea of Jermaine O'Neal for Posey but I'm still holding out a glimmer of hope that JON will eventually give us something, if only for a few games when it counts.
Ramon Sessions: He's got talent but he doesn't fill a need and I think other clubs might be more interested in him than we are. On the other hand, if you expanded the obvious "Quis for Parker" deal to include Nate and other pieces and threw in a pick, maybe you could find a mix that works for both parties.
Of course it wouldn't be a Peter May article without a snarky reference to Antoine Walker and Rasheed Wallace. So hats off for that.

I guess you can see how difficult this is going to be for Ainge. He said recently "Right now there's a list of about 15 or 20 different options and go from there over the weekend" and I'm sure the conversations will only pick up next week. Still, the most likely scenario is that the C's (and most teams) won't find anything worth making a move on right now and wait to see what happens with buyouts. The trade deadline is often much ado about nada and just about everything is on hold until the Melo-drama unfolds. But that doesn't mean it isn't fun to discuss.

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Hahaha! Antoine! >:)

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by AiTheLAviTiCuS#21 on Feb 18, 2011 6:42 AM EST reply actions

Peter May

Basically a crap writer, but, that’s what you get from the Globe.

The way he feels about ’Toine and Sheed is exactly how I feel about him. Complete. Joke.

by KG's Knee on Feb 18, 2011 8:23 AM EST up reply actions

I liked Marc spears but he's working for

Yahoo now

by friedgreentomatoes on Feb 18, 2011 1:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

What about Brandon Rush or Battier?

by TheAlbatross on Feb 18, 2011 6:48 AM EST reply actions

May knows his crowd by including

Posey and Josh Childress. In an ironic twist MR " might have already played his best basketball " doesn’t get any playing time for Indiana.

"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said

by Birdbrain on Feb 18, 2011 6:51 AM EST reply actions

we need SFs!
Only Childress and Posey are true SFs in that list, and to be honest I’d rather have neither. We’re best just waiting for buyouts and doing it that way, saves us taking on a massive contract which will kill our future, nobody wants 5 years of Josh Childress’s ugly jumpshot.

by @JdotD on Feb 18, 2011 7:46 AM EST reply actions

Jermaine O'Neal for Posey...

Now that’s funny, I believe JO has another year left on his deal?

What happened to Frank083?

by Great Gatsby on Feb 18, 2011 7:57 AM EST reply actions

So does Posey.

by Warrior Spirit on Feb 18, 2011 9:18 AM EST via mobile up reply actions

Posey

still has knees that function, one cannot say the same for JO!

What happened to Frank083?

by Great Gatsby on Feb 18, 2011 9:29 AM EST up reply actions

Nope.

by Warrior Spirit on Feb 18, 2011 9:41 AM EST via mobile up reply actions

O'Neal's knees will function just fine next year

by Finkelskyhook on Feb 18, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions

Bone on bone probably does not just go away. He wins a title, I bet he retires.

by Warrior Spirit on Feb 18, 2011 11:27 AM EST via mobile up reply actions

+1

for extreme optimism, hahahaha

by vgarcia890 on Feb 18, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions

Yes, but Indiana has an abundance of wings.

And although JO would obviously back up Hibbert, they’re not quite as big inside.

The Deals are about the same, so if they can’t save any money, they’ll probably opt for big man depth as opposed to another wing a guy. That being said, they will certainly look for a team that will trade an expiring deal for him, there just might not be anyone willing.

"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach

by Sizzlack on Feb 18, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions

No Porsey please

For these that are still enjoying the good performances from him back in 2008, you have to realize he’s not the same player any more. There is still a chance, no matter how slim it is, that JO can be relatively healthy again. And when he’s on the court, he really could contribute. But will never be worth his current salary again. mark it.

by friedgreentomatoes on Feb 18, 2011 1:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

Porsey will never

by friedgreentomatoes on Feb 18, 2011 1:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

Posey perhaps but as mentioned in the other thread

Anthony Parker, Rasual Butler or perhaps Tayshaun Prince are interesting targets as well.

by Surferdad on Feb 18, 2011 8:03 AM EST reply actions

Throw in Jeff Foster to the Pacers deal

Quis, Nate and JON for Foster and Posey. Then use the extra roster spot to get the best player available, maybe Rip? He’d be ideal if Nate left…

by theham on Feb 18, 2011 8:28 AM EST reply actions

What do the Pacers get that make them not loath Larry as he leaves the organization with this move?

by Warrior Spirit on Feb 18, 2011 9:24 AM EST via mobile up reply actions

I'm trusting Danny and the allure of the championship-caliber C's

—to believe he’ll come up with more than another Mikki Moore or Michael Finley this time. I could see him bundling a rook (other than Semih) with Daniels to take on some moderate salary if need be.

by clover on Feb 18, 2011 8:38 AM EST reply actions

Dreamin.......

Jeff Foster, aahhhh, now that would be nice! Dreaminnnn….. Realistically, rashaul Butler or Parker.

by celty86 on Feb 18, 2011 9:10 AM EST reply actions

Either one would be great.

by Surferdad on Feb 18, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions

Here we go again.

by Warrior Spirit on Feb 18, 2011 9:21 AM EST via mobile reply actions

We're not getting anyone via trade

And I’m fine with that. Maybe someone from buyouts, but I don’t see anyone significant enough to make a difference.

by Ersatz on Feb 18, 2011 9:33 AM EST reply actions

We seem to have more and more people feeling that way these days. Personally I would not be surprised either way, but tend to agree with you.

by Warrior Spirit on Feb 18, 2011 9:45 AM EST via mobile up reply actions

Trade

Francisco Garcia or Al Thornton are probably be available ……

by juanpan on Feb 18, 2011 9:53 AM EST reply actions

PETER MAY

I HAVEN’T LISTENED TO A WORD THIS GUY WRITES FOR YEARS! THIS GUY REALLY THINKS PEOPLE BELIEVE WHAT HE WRITES, HE IS WRONG THERE.

I really feel bad that Marquis is probably gone for the year. He had really been playing so well and was a great backup for Paul Pierce. The way it sounds though, is that he is gone.
What a shame.

My wish is to get someone who likes to play defense and not worry about shooting. That might be Shane Battier, but I don’t know if we can afford him. I will leave all the worrying up to Danny, he seems to pull something out of his magic hat when in need

by rosalie on Feb 18, 2011 10:22 AM EST reply actions

We don't know that Quis is gone for the year

Or did I miss something?

For all we know, he could be playing later this month. Unless, again…. I missed something?

by DRJ1 on Feb 18, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions

Yeah, you did miss something

Quis brusing his spinal cord on what would amount to somoebody walking into a screen door they didn’t see. I think just about any doctor will tell him to hang up the sneakers unless he is willing to risk permanent disability on routine contact. He’s 1 elbow away from living in a wheel chair or possible death. I think all can see the writing on the wall.

by IowaGuy on Feb 18, 2011 1:09 PM EST up reply actions

Possible but not definite.
It is an injury one can come back from and perform at a reasonably high level. It happening from such a minor contact doesnt bode particularly well. He has lots to consider, that is true. But it does not have to be so black and white. I bruised my spinal in November in the sacrum area, and (against docs orders) I completed 11 moves in the following week. Moving pianos 3 days after the injury occured, while just getting up from the floor in the morningswas a 12 step process, literally. Crawling up the stairs in tears of pain and fear at home, legs just giving out randomly not receiving proper signals, pushing through with as much weight as I could handle at a slightly slower clip than normal.
It has been a few months, it can be sore on occaision, and while there was a modecum of danger in my job already, it has increased. Yes there is potential unfun moments, but this is how I provide for my little girl, and I still enjoy doing it, plus I dont have much choice to make a living in another way.
Yes Quisy has a decision to make, yes most likely any/every doctor will tell him to hang it up, yes he has made more money than many will ever see and can afford to look into other ways to provide for his own, yes he will be facing danger everytime he touches the court. But it is ultimately his choice, and maybe he is sick of others/doctors telling him what he can/cannot do, maybe finishing the season, winning a ring is enough to drive him. Maybe its not worth it. I would not blame hime either way. But it ishis choice to make.

by Warrior Spirit on Feb 18, 2011 2:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

So in retrospect he missed nothing

Your opinion on this matter isn’t worth very much, fyi.

"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said

by Birdbrain on Feb 18, 2011 5:39 PM EST up reply actions

And your opinion is?

rather snarky comment, wouldn’t you say

by KG's Knee on Feb 18, 2011 6:10 PM EST up reply actions

by Warrior Spirit on Feb 18, 2011 11:29 AM EST via mobile up reply actions

This goes to rosalie’s comment

by Warrior Spirit on Feb 18, 2011 6:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

Most likely is nothing

2nd most likely: something nobody’s thought of. So I basically ignore the whole thing and just wait.

by DRJ1 on Feb 18, 2011 10:51 AM EST reply actions

Of that list I like Childress and Posey. Posey is a pretty good defender if I remember correctly and he took a lot of charges…not that we need any more charges taken but it’s still nice to have someone whos willing to take one.

by celticsox937 on Feb 18, 2011 3:18 PM EST reply actions

i like childress but he's rail thin at 6'8

wonder what the suns would be asking

"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!

by remembering9ergods on Feb 18, 2011 4:08 PM EST reply actions

hinrich and howard

trade bradley, a pick, + marquis and jermaine for josh howard and kirk hinrich. howard is low-risk/high-reward, and hinrich is a potential impact player.

by Kraidstar on Feb 18, 2011 6:16 PM EST reply actions

Quis hurt every year

It was dumb to depend on Quis to be the only backup 3, because he gets hurt EVERY YEAR. It doesn’t matter how much talent he has if he can never play when we need him.
Right niw, Celts need a big, powerful, defensive minded 3 like Shane Battier. Grant Hill would be a short term solution. Parker might help, but at 6’3", he doesn’t have the size we need to play Lebron and other powerful 3’s when PP is out

Is there a timetable for JO to return or is just taking advantage of the Celtics? How many hours does he spend per day in rehab? Is he willing to play 5-10 minutes per night in pain to win a ring? if he can’t or won’t play, we should buy him out or trade him now! There has to be another old big out there who is able to gut out half a year to win a ring? Right now, I’d rather have a D league center who wants to play than JO. Heck, I’d rather hade Deshawn Sims.
Go Danny-Go! We need a piece or two, and we can in it all.

by Green Banner on Feb 19, 2011 2:11 AM EST reply actions