Quiet Ray Gets Loud
by Jeff Clark on Feb 2, 2011 6:17 AM EST
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PrintWe continue Ray Allen appreciation week (look for another article later today) with a few notes from last night.
Allen gets his point across -Celtics blog - Boston Globe basketball news
The starters chewed the second unit out at halftime of their 95-90 win over the Kings, but the most surprisingly vocal was Ray Allen. "Ray really doesn’t say too much at halftime," Paul Pierce said. "Guys responded. Ray doesn’t really say much. He usually talks to us on the bench, on the court. But he kind of lit us up a little bit at halftime and it woke guys up knowing that we’re not playing to our potential."
Rapid reaction II: 20 for 20 = win - Boston Celtics Blog - ESPN Boston
The Celtics have all sorts of fun stats about when this team is successful. For instance, Boston is 10-1 this season when it scores between 90-99 points and it is 21-3 when it outrebounds an opponent (both of which it accomplished Tuesday). But there is only one true stat this season that guarantees success: When Ray Allen scores 20 points or more, the Celtics are 14-0.
Don't know how many more ways I can say it, but I just love having this guy on our team.
On another note, imagine (if you dare) if had never happened. The Celtics aren't the only franchise that would look a whole lot different if that trade never occurred.
Other than Reggie, you know who the biggest loser is here? Sam Presti, who made a totally defensible trade when he was rebuilding Seattle around Kevin Durant in 2007 (Allen and the rights to Glen Davis for the rights to Jeff Green, Delonte West and Wally Szczerbiak's expiring contract) and never imagined he was giving up five or six more killer Ray Allen seasons. I can't wait for the "40 for 40" documentary about the 2007 draft in 10 years.
Do you think the Thunder would trade Jeff Green for Ray Allen and Glen Davis right now? Yeah, I'd say so. I have to agree with Simmons. The mentor relationship alone might have been worth it for the young OKC squad (not just Durant, but guys like Harden and others would benefit from a guy like Ray around). Thankfully this one is just in the "what if?" category.
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Hope he breaks Reggie's record at home.
"The idea is not to block every shot. The idea is to make your opponent believe that you might block every shot." - Bill Russell
I call 1st shot of the Laker game.
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 2, 2011 10:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I call 1st shot of the Laker game.
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 2, 2011 10:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
What is up with all the dupes?
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 2, 2011 10:54 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
just crown him now, Ray Allen: King of Threes
if he manages to play for another year after his contract, that record will be untouchable for a long time
hi im new hre..celts fan fr0m the philippines baby!
by reb0undwins18 on Feb 3, 2011 5:27 AM EST up reply actions
C'mon Ray Appreciation "Week"?
That’s like having Winter Appreciation Week from Jan 2 -9 while we’re getting snowed on from October to May.
Another interesting stat.....
The Celtics are 34-11 whenever they step on the court and score more points than their opponents. Not bad huh? :)
weird
I’m still not sure how they lost 11 games where they scored more points than the other team. I blame the refs.
by No Look Shot on Feb 2, 2011 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
When Ray yells it's probably like
EF Hutton.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
When Ray decides to retire and end his Hall of Fame career
He is going to become a Hall of Fame coach. The guy just has that quiet motivational voice that’s a great quality in coaches.
HOF
Will Ray and Garnett retire in the Celtics green? I think Rays a lock. When he ends his career he will have been with the C’s longer than anybody. I think Garnett will too, but it will be wierd. He spent alot of time in Minny.
No, he played longer for the bucks.
Allen spent 8 years in MIL, he played there longer than any other city.
If he ends his career at the end of next year when his contract is up, he’ll have spent 6 years in Boston, 2 more than he did in Seattle.
See here: http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/allenra02.html
MIL from 1996 to 2003.
It’s funny, I always wonder what would have happened if Minny didn’t trade him for Marbury… Allen and Garnett together in the prime of their careers? Hmmm…
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
yeah that could have been possible
they had Joe Smith in his prime too, all they needed was a solid vet PG, a solid bench and defense
3 more years
I don’t think he will end his career at the end of next year. I think he has a good 3 years left in him. I haven’t noticed him slowing down at all. Infact he seems to be strongest he’s ever been this year.
All speculative at this point.
Although with how he’s looked, and his unquestionable work ethic and diet. Honestly, it wouldn’t shock me if he played until he was 40.
But it also wouldn’t surprise me if he hung em up after this year too, I mean he will be 37… So it’s hard to say with any real confidence right now he “will end up playing in Boston longer than anywhere else.” That’s, at best, maybe a 50/50 chance right now.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
if he does hang em' up
I hope he sticks around as a coaching assistant or works for the club to some capacity, Ray brings a lot of positives in whatever he does
I don't believe the uni matters
in the basketball HoF. Its not like baseball’s where they retire with a specific team’s hat.
All that said, despite the fact that Ray will have spent (after next year) an additional 2 years in Milwaukee than in Boston, i don’t think that trumps winning an NBA title (or two).
Not to mention that Ray went to Connecticut, which ties him even more to this area.
surprisingly Great article by Simmons. I can see how he did not want to lengthen the article and it obviously focuses on the offensive end, but KG could also receive said similar honors as he too is defying gravity.
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 2, 2011 10:42 AM EST via mobile reply actions
ray is the voice of reason. when he talks he should be heard. reggie never played defense like ray-he rested on d. ray just keeps on moving all over the court. they should put an odometer on him. i wish my car would run as smooth as he does.
That would be awesome.
I’ve long contended that Ray Allen runs at least 10 miles every single game.
Be interesting if they actually did measure that…
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
I wonder if he drinks Kombucha ;-)
SAVE THE PLANET. GO GREEN!
by CaliforniaGreen on Feb 2, 2011 11:02 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Probably.
Seems like it would be his thing.
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 2, 2011 6:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Just 9 more!!!
Just 9 more 3s, and you’re over Reggie’s total, Ray!
Hitting that milestone just makes banner 18 even better!
Entirely possible it will happen at home vs. LA...
How sweet would that be…
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
THE ROYAL WE....
THE ROYAL WE….
The Cs were in Sacramento for their road trip game four,
Hoping only the Phoenix game would be the one that was
poor.
Sure enough they succeeded, they beat the Kings by
five,
But throughout the game the Kings were alive.
Turnovers for both teams were really tough,
Til the Celtics decided they had had enough.
They beat the Kings at the game off the glass,
And by the fourth quarter the ball they did pass.
The Kings’ Cousins did well, they all played with heart,
They even had a lead after the Cs great start.
They have young guys who play hard, together, too,
That’s what a young team has to do.
KG was pumped up, Pierce and Rondo played well,
The bench was off, early on you could tell.
The fourth quarter Cs had Rondo, Pierce, Allen, Perk
(He’s the guy with the torn ACL who put in hard work).
Nate’s energy was huge in the fourth toward the end,
We started passing the ball and decided to defend.
With this win tonight Doc gets the prize,
He’ll coach the East All-Stars, that’s no surprise.
These poems always end the same way,
Ray is now just 9 away.
Everyone who trades Ray ends up regretting it.
The Wolves draft day trade seemed like a good idea at the time, considering how close KG and Marbury were, and how high Marbury’s ceiling was universally thought to be. But in retrospect, the Wolves gave up a future pick for the right to have a headcase journeyman who made a few all-star teams rather than a class act who became a perennial all-star.
The Bucks trade never made sense unless you were George Karl, who thought a few months’ reunion with an aging Gary Payton was better than the rest of 28-year-old Ray’s career (and Ray had made it clear he was good with being a Buck for life). The Bucks had a major crash in the aftermath… as tends to happen when you trade your star for nothing.
And Simmons covers the Sonics issue.
So glad Danny didn’t trade Ray and his expiring contract last year. Old as he is, Ray would have ended up adding the Celtics to his list of teams that never should have let him go.
Yep, the wolves chose Hall of Fame crazy or over Hall of fame shooter.
But hind sight is 20/20.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
I think I heard ray or reggie say
That the problem is that there is no new talent that care enough about perfecting their shot, so rays record will probably never be broken. There isnt anyone that puts the time in like ray. Look at lebron, some argue that hes the best player in the league, he has a not so reliable shot….and like I said, some consider him the top talent in the nba. Just goes to show that old school hard work, determination and practice gets it done. Very happy ray is a celtic.
by Kgwillkillyou on Feb 2, 2011 11:56 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Reggie said it.
The argument was basically that players these days, and kids coming up only care about getting on Sports Center, and high flying dunks will do that more than 3-pt shots.
So, kids coming up through high school and college aren’t doing the “take 1000 shots a day” type routines that made Miller and Allen the best ever.
Argumentative, at best. Truth is those two are a special kind of breed, and I don’t think it’s a testament to the times that no one is putting in the kind of work they did/do. I mean, there are maybe only a handful in the history of the game who ever have, so things aren’t all that different now than they were earlier.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
On a side note:
Kg for defensive player of year anyone?
by Kgwillkillyou on Feb 2, 2011 12:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions
He's got my vote
Although, if you could vote for defensive contributor of the year Thibs might win it, and I couldn’t complain.
I noticed this photo after the Lakers game, and thought it so fitting. Hope this works- 1st try.
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Didn't work- I'll try again.
Lygafe
Lionel Gaffen / Fotomix
http://lygaffen.blogspot.com/
http://community.webshots.com/user/lygafe
http://forums.internationalhockey.net/showthread.php?t=7448&page=2
International Hockey Forums > Europe > ISRAEL
Israel Recreational Hockey Association 2009-2010 & 2010-2011 [ Lygafe ]
Israel Ice Skating Federation - From the Media [ Lionel Gaffen ]
http://www.eurohockey.net/news/story.html?id=20090408104226_herzliya_emerges_as_israeli_national_league_champions
Lygafe
Lionel Gaffen / Fotomix
http://lygaffen.blogspot.com/
http://community.webshots.com/user/lygafe
http://forums.internationalhockey.net/showthread.php?t=7448&page=2
International Hockey Forums > Europe > ISRAEL
Israel Recreational Hockey Association 2009-2010 & 2010-2011 [ Lygafe ]
Israel Ice Skating Federation - From the Media [ Lionel Gaffen ]
http://www.eurohockey.net/news/story.html?id=20090408104226_herzliya_emerges_as_israeli_national_league_champions
Sorry- no go; I'm trying to download from Flickr and need some experience with it.
Lygafe
Lionel Gaffen / Fotomix
http://lygaffen.blogspot.com/
http://community.webshots.com/user/lygafe
http://forums.internationalhockey.net/showthread.php?t=7448&page=2
International Hockey Forums > Europe > ISRAEL
Israel Recreational Hockey Association 2009-2010 & 2010-2011 [ Lygafe ]
Israel Ice Skating Federation - From the Media [ Lionel Gaffen ]
http://www.eurohockey.net/news/story.html?id=20090408104226_herzliya_emerges_as_israeli_national_league_champions
Totally off topic....
but I haven’t seen anything on Delonte West’s status. Does anyone know when he’s coming back?
Washburn talked to him before the game last night, had a sideline report about it during the game.
Things are progressing, barring any set backs he’s expect to return to full practice this week. Eying a mid february return, looking about 2 weeks away right now, give or take.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
by Sizzlack on Feb 2, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
fired up ray ray
i love it , i would be nice to have homecourt in the playoffs , and rays halftime speech could go a long way to keepin’ the bench players playin’ to their capability every game
3-point King..
Like I said before, it would be nice (and fitting) to see Paul vs Ray in the 3-Point shootout finals this year.. Ray should win 27-23!
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