A Few Scattered Rumors

by Jeff Clark on Feb 22, 2011 5:11 PM EST in Boston Celtics Rumors

Just a few more rumors to keep you busy.

Update: Sources: Knicks, Celts talked Brewer trade

Sources say that the Knicks were looking to bring a fourth team into the deal in order to unload Corey Brewer. Several teams were interested, including the Celtics, but New York couldn't work things out. One source said that Celtics GM Danny Ainge was actually trying to recruit a fifth team to take Nate Robinson and a Boston first-round pick to complete the deal for Brewer. However, by the end of the afternoon, the Knicks decided to pull the trigger on the deal with Brewer going to New York.

Spears: Keep An Eye On Richard Hamilton Buyout | CelticsHub.com

"The one guy to keep an eye on is Rip Hamilton. The Celtics definitely want him but the question is whether he is going to be bought out. The situation, from what I'm hearing in Detroit, they have to find some kind of solution to that. I can't see them keeping him. "The problem is, he's got two years on his deal after this year. It's beyond fixing. Rip and the coach (John Kuester) don't see eye-to-eye. It's just gone too far. I think the franchise knows they have to move on. There's even been some talk about Rip being open to giving back some money just so he can get out of there."

"For him to get out of that situation, go to Boston, come off the bench and kind of revive his career, that might help his longevity in the league long term. It'd certainly be a financial hit for him though."

More after the jump.

Cleveland Cavaliers preaching patience as trade deadline approaches | cleveland.com

Yes, there have been calls about Antawn Jamison, Anthony Parker and Ramon Sessions, among others. But the Cavs are seeking either unprotected No. 1 draft choices or size, like Chicago's Omer Asik or Boston's Semih Erden, and teams are reluctant to give up either.

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The one #Celtics player whose name has come up most in conversations I've had today as someone who's drawing interest, has been Avery Bradley. That, plus D.Ainge's track record with late first-round picks, tells me he's probably going to be a pretty good player one day.

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I wouldn't be opposed to Rip, but...

Who do we release or buyout to give him a roster spot if he is indeed
bought out … Marquis?

by EF37 on Feb 22, 2011 5:18 PM EST reply actions

Quisy or Gody

I know we like Gody because of his hustle and all, but he’s not going to help us this year, and his upside is a bench player. Keeping Marquis in case he gets healthy for the playoffs might be what happens, so there’s still a chance of a true 3, as opposed to just another guy to foul Lebron for 15 minutes a game.

Rip would be fine vs. the Lakers and Kobe if it gets that far.

by egotistical ma on Feb 22, 2011 6:09 PM EST up reply actions

I don’t see any way out of this. We’re going into playoffs with one three player

by vgarcia890 on Feb 22, 2011 5:25 PM EST via mobile reply actions

The thought of Rip coming off Perkins/KG screens recieving perfect passes from Rondo. Mann I’d love to see that.

by Mub33b on Feb 22, 2011 5:29 PM EST via mobile reply actions

Interesting that there seems to be interest in Bradley.

It’s clear that teams are seeing something the fans cannot. I put a lot of stock into the words Pierce and Co. have put into him as well, they’re really impressed with his approach to the game, and how quickly he is learning.

I really don’t want to see Ainge trade this guy. Granted we’re in “win now” mode, but I really think Bradley and Erden will be important pieces of this team in years to come. Extremely valuable bench players who could solidify the PG/C positions behind Rondo and Perk for years to come.

"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach

by Sizzlack on Feb 22, 2011 5:31 PM EST reply actions

I suspect most fans watched his few moments on the Celts and formed their opinions about him.

Very limited sampling to go on. Watch his last few games with the Claws and you can see the kid has a hell of a lot of potential, but a PG he is not. I like him as a super defending undersized two. He’s got a sweet shot, too.

by Mencius on Feb 22, 2011 9:13 PM EST up reply actions

I think many fans know his potential value, not as many as those that undervalue him, but I dont think the numbers are too far off.

by Warrior Spirit on Feb 22, 2011 10:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

Irony is . . .

Rip was the UConn star at the 2 after Ray . . . . at least if memory serves.

Sometimes glass glitters more than diamonds because it has more to prove.

by Kungfuguy on Feb 22, 2011 5:36 PM EST reply actions

Yes, Rip is a protoge of Ray's

"The celtics were a way of life. A group of people so diverse you cannot imagine; working together, day in and day out for a common goal. What was necessary was ten players, two baskets, thirteen thousand people and one basketball. We would decide what was done with that one basketball." ~ Bill Russell

by Eucharist on Feb 22, 2011 5:58 PM EST up reply actions

The C's would have to set a record with the # of sometime All-Stars on a team.

by clover on Feb 22, 2011 5:36 PM EST reply actions

Heat would be close

Juwan Howard, Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Jamaal Magloire

by clawlin on Feb 22, 2011 5:41 PM EST up reply actions

Go after RIP

Even if it means giving up Bradley, instant offense off the screens ….. Win 18 NOW …

by juanpan on Feb 22, 2011 5:38 PM EST reply actions

No need

The only way we are getting Rip is if he is bought so I wouldn’t worry about giving up assets for him. The good news is that a buyout is looking more likely even though he has 2 years left on his contract.

by jr_3421 on Feb 22, 2011 5:42 PM EST up reply actions

This isn’t happening so let’s just move on

by vgarcia890 on Feb 22, 2011 10:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

go for rip

if not get a young player not juwan howard,dahntay jones and roger mason

by LBJ34 on Feb 22, 2011 5:56 PM EST reply actions

sorry

i mean josh howard

by LBJ34 on Feb 22, 2011 5:57 PM EST up reply actions

Bulls trade James Johnson for Toronto (Miamis ) 1st. Rounder which makes them under the cap the exact amount of Anthony Parker’s contract … guess they have their 2, really hoping Rip gets bought out

by stylo617617 on Feb 22, 2011 6:26 PM EST via mobile reply actions

Or if rip does get bought out now they have more money and a starting position, there doing work

by stylo617617 on Feb 22, 2011 6:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

I wish we had a crappy player who people wanted

A first for James Johnson and the privilege of paying for him? Good job Toronto…

by egotistical ma on Feb 22, 2011 6:37 PM EST up reply actions

I would prefer Shane Battier

bc of his defense. And that is extremely difficult to say since I graduated from UNC.

However, I do like Rip and would much rather save Bradley and just pay $$$. Also if Rip does get bought out, I would think the Celts would be #1 on the list, giving Rip a chance at another ring and playing with Ray.

Question: IF Rip is bought out and the Celts sign him, can the Celts move Gody or Bradley to the D-League to save them? or can they just dump Jermaine ONeil or Marquise bc of their injuries? I guess my question is what are the Celts options if Rip is their target?

by SoxAcumen on Feb 22, 2011 6:57 PM EST reply actions

We'd have to cut someone

Since we already have 15 on our roster. If we ever were interested in Rip, chances are it was to replace Daniels, so we’d probably cut him.

by Tai on Feb 22, 2011 10:21 PM EST up reply actions

They need someone to back up Pierce and play defense.

Hamilton doesn’t do either of those, plus, he has a huge contract. Whether it means anything or not, I heard Hamilton and Ray don’t like each other. If they make a move, I don’t want the Celts to get rid of their younger players.

by powerlifter610 on Feb 22, 2011 7:07 PM EST reply actions

Cavaliers preaching patience?

Ah, Doctor, the patient has flat lined.

by thereallargejames on Feb 22, 2011 7:14 PM EST reply actions

Battier would be better

To sign Rip, we need to cut somebody. It would be so much better to trade 2 for1 or 3 for 2 and include a draft pick to get Battier. That way, as an added advantage for the C’s, they can go out after the deadline and pick up another Big and/or backup point (or even Rip if they insist)
Battier is such a perfect fit, Danny should find a way to make It happen.
As I see it, the sticking point for Danny is that he’s unwilling to give up a first round pick.But why would Danny value an extremely low first round pick so highly? Its 95% certain that Battier is better than anyone he could find at that draft spot. If you were Houton, would you really turn down Nate, Quis, Bradley and a first round pick for Battier who will be a free agent at the end if the season? They might even take less: Nate, Quis, and a first round? Or less?
Go Danny-Go! It’s time to channel Red again, and make a Great trade.

by Green Banner on Feb 22, 2011 7:21 PM EST reply actions

I know what you mean

Since that rumor about Battier came about, I became excited and more into the trade news than before. He would fit perfect in green and I can already see him in green, but I don’t know if we can get him, I hope they’re at least thinking of it. I would love for him it to happen and if he joins, man… the Lakers fans were already nervous about the rumor calling him the Kobe Stopper, but imag joy knowing that we might have an even better chance at banner 18ine if it became true. This team would probably be the most feared and I think I’ll jump for joy knowing we have an even better chance at banner 18 than before.
The downside though maybe that people are saying they want a big specifically Perk and if that’s true then I’ll pass. I just hope Danny’s doing business and channeling his Red.

by JoT on Feb 22, 2011 8:26 PM EST up reply actions

If Houston wants Perk...

maybe a
battier, j.hill, b.miller for
bbd, nate/quis, perk would work…
seems like perk isn’t staying here after next season anyway..

by Rany on Feb 22, 2011 10:08 PM EST up reply actions

This makes me sad

by Warrior Spirit on Feb 22, 2011 10:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

it'd be worse if he goes to miami..

i just dunno if they can afford him, but i just hope he goes west (just not LA) if he does leave..

by Rany on Feb 22, 2011 10:29 PM EST up reply actions

I’d be sad if perk left but if dh comes then wow what an upgrade

by vgarcia890 on Feb 22, 2011 10:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

Perk has shown no intention of leaving.

What makes you think that?

Besides, it doesn’t matter what Perk will do next season. Banner 18 is now and we need him for it.

by KY Celts fan on Feb 22, 2011 10:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

by Warrior Spirit on Feb 22, 2011 11:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

i didn't say he would, im sayin just in case..

by Rany on Feb 23, 2011 1:48 AM EST up reply actions

you said, "seems like perk isn’t staying here after next season anyway.."

What makes you think this?

by KY Celts fan on Feb 23, 2011 3:09 AM EST up reply actions

cos' he rejected the celtics' extension offer..

i believe it was 7m.. most probably he’ll be looking for bigger pay..

by Rany on Feb 23, 2011 9:24 PM EST up reply actions

Where would RIP play?

I always thought of RIP as a tempo rhythm shooter…..meaning he will need to be a starter to get that, get him off the bench and you will have to warm him up and I wouldn’t ever consider Ray Ray coming of the bench for RIP. Battier would be a much better fit, but why would the rockets give him up?

by Celticnation on Feb 22, 2011 8:00 PM EST reply actions

Jeff - thanks for updates

Is it Soup Yet?

by Master Po on Feb 22, 2011 8:08 PM EST reply actions

It's amazing!!

Danny has turned the 60th pick, into an asset!!! and more! a possible starting center.
The future in the late picks are these Euro centers like Timofey, Semih, Asik, Okur — these type guys hold a lot of value I don’t know why the cavs still have Ryan Hollins on the roster when they can import a guy like Giorgi Shermadini a nice Euro center prospect.

by businessbmw on Feb 22, 2011 8:40 PM EST reply actions

If Rip does get bought out, he'll go to Chicago not Boston

He would easily start in Chicago unlike Boston. And with a much more potent threat in Rip, plus Thibs defense, Chicago could instantly become favorites to win the East.

I wouldn’t mind Rip in green, but I think he would prefer Chicago.

by KY Celts fan on Feb 22, 2011 8:50 PM EST via mobile reply actions

i think bulls are already going to make a move soon wether its parker,mayo or lee

u have to know for a fact rip will NOT go to another abundance of guards

by stylo617617 on Feb 22, 2011 9:11 PM EST up reply actions

thats just it though

the bulls have NO guards

"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!

by remembering9ergods on Feb 22, 2011 9:17 PM EST up reply actions

brewer playes at the 2 since deng & korver clog the 3 spot

im expecting them to aquire 1 of the 3 i mentioned tomorow since like us wont risk rip not getting bought out and have nothing ,if i was a betting man i’d say parker

rip/brewer/parker= yet another guard clog in which rip wont have ANY part of

ill expect us to make a move by tommorow too

by stylo617617 on Feb 22, 2011 9:28 PM EST up reply actions

brewer is a SF though and a bad shooter

if you believe the reports, the bulls are not willing to trade any players only picks and the teams they’ve engaged want players not picks. i agree parker is best bet for trade. however, if rip is bought out i believe he goes to the bulls

"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!

by remembering9ergods on Feb 22, 2011 10:15 PM EST up reply actions

we’ll have to see

by stylo617617 on Feb 22, 2011 10:33 PM EST up reply actions

Can anyone enlighten me...

…on how a buyout works and how the salary cap plays a role on that? If we miss the trade deadline, then our options to acquire a new sub is through signing a free agent or a buyout of contract (i.e. rip’s contract)… but even if Rip lowers his price a whole notch, is there a cap on how much maximum we can offer a player?

by japsuki on Feb 22, 2011 9:41 PM EST reply actions

we offer the vet min which all depends on the players tenure in the league

so a little over 1 million is what we can offer him same with all the contenders

by stylo617617 on Feb 22, 2011 9:46 PM EST up reply actions

I see. But what if...

…for example, we declare Quis inactive for the rest of the season. Does that mean we can use his salary as a bargaining chip to lure other players?

by japsuki on Feb 22, 2011 9:50 PM EST reply actions

yeah i think danny is using marquis's contract as we speak as a chip

by stylo617617 on Feb 22, 2011 10:33 PM EST up reply actions

Danny is still working on moving Nate and a 1st I see

Interesting that we were working with the knicks.

Guess I dont quite understand it, why would MN take on Currys expiring and Randolph for Brewer? they are surely taking on way more salary than they are letting go, makesno sense.

by Warrior Spirit on Feb 22, 2011 11:05 PM EST via mobile reply actions

Never mind

Dont know how I missed that they were losing Kofus and gaining a pick in the deal as well. Makes way more sense

by Warrior Spirit on Feb 22, 2011 11:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

where did you hear that he’s “still” moving nate

by stylo617617 on Feb 22, 2011 11:45 PM EST up reply actions

Still WORKING on moving Nate. read the article above…

by Warrior Spirit on Feb 23, 2011 12:03 AM EST via mobile up reply actions

Rip

The Celtics need a defender at the 3, someone who can defend as well as Marquis. I don’t think Rip is that guy He also doesn’t have the height to guard the types of players Marquis can guard.. I don’t know much about what’s going on with him in Detroit, but he doesn’t seem to like coming off the bench so I don’t see how that would work here.

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by TrueGreen on Feb 23, 2011 10:43 AM EST reply actions